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One X or One S?

Hello, I am currently choosing between One S and One X, so I would like you to comment on some of my questions. First of all, let's talk about screen. I just had iPhone 4S, which has retina display. It is awesome, but after it, I used Omnia 7. And I see so many pixels there... It makes me sad. So can you see pixels on One S?
Second is question about real life usage. Is One S better than One X in terms of speed? I read some comments that One S is laggy in browser and some other places. Also, HTC removed some visual features from it. Like carusel effect when going between app browser and it's categories. So, One S doesn't have all the goodies that One X has?
Third is battery life. How good is battery life on One S? Would it easily last a day with 8h screen-on time? I surf a lot and play games, listen to music. So battery life is important to me.
Forth, size. I can't test them in real-life, so I have to make some decisions from comments and reviews. Is One X comfortable to use, or not? How does it compare to Galaxy Nexus, Titan and other big phones? I know that One S size would be perfect.
Fifth, the quality of materials. I just read about some strange things with One S, that it gets scratched and etc. I want to buy black/red version. Will I be affected with this thing?
Sixth, please comment on both phones and give arguments why one is better than other
BTW, how about memory? I listen to a lot of music, is there any easy way to compress mp3 and not loose quality? I think that 9GB won't be enough...
I am really thankful for all of your comments and I am really waiting for an honest help Also, I am returning to Android after more than a year being without it. So help me make the right decision and not be disappointed with it Thank you guys!

I'm currently in a very similar situation as you. When I saw One X & One S after release during MWC I planned to get One X, because it looked like a better device for me.
My opinion changed after first negative feedback from One X early adopters, who noticed many bugs & defects, such as UI & browser lags, screen glitches, build quality issues and so on, there are many threads about that kind of problems in One X section.
After that I focused on One S, which appeared to be much faster thanks to 28 nm Krait CPU, which easily outperforms Tegra3 in day-to-day operations. One S also has better build quality, especailly the black/red one, with MAO. Polycarbonate may be fine, but for me nothing beats metal unibody, when it comes to build quality of a smartphone.
One S is also smaller which is an advantege for me. I don't have small hands, but I want to be able to use my smartphone comfortably with one hand.
I prefer LCD to AMOLED, but I could live with One S's qHD SAMOLED, it's not a deal breaker. Also I do not notice Pentile on my Galaxy S, so I guess I won't notice it on One S.
When it comes to memory more is always better. 10 GB may be too much for some, but for others it will be too little.
Tegra 3 SoC is also very closed-sourced, so it's much harder to work with for devs, than Qualcomm SoC's.

I prefer S (dont have one yet, getting when avaible)
1. I dont know about pixels, Im moving from HTC Tattoo, so I probably dont have problems (I might have, if I can test HTC One X and S side by side @ shop)
2. S should be faster. It have smaller screen and in daily uses its faster then tegra3 (daily programs dont use quad core).
3. I dont think u can last 8h screen time...
4. I dont even know if 4.3 is good for me, but 4.7 would be to large... I would prefer same hardware in 4' size
5. S should be built with really good quality, but recent topic stated some wierd scrach... Follow that thread to see more info (search general section).
6. I prefer S because: Smaller screen, faster daily use, better battery life

One S -> One X
I bought it 4 days ago and its awesome...
Most of the guys here on xda bought the one x.. the looked at the specs and see an quad core and instantly bought it.
But they forget that the tegra 3 is totally crap! 40nm, built on a 8 years old platfrom. ( shame on you nvidia) mostly closed source and crap support by nv.
qualcom did the better job with that s4

Hey guys, HTC Sensation user here
Ive been suffering terrible signal issues with the Sensation (XE) On Vodafone UK networks. This is a well known problem, And ive had a couple replacements with the same issues so i know the device isnt faulty.
Upon research ive discovered its the Antenna design which is the culprit, So after some complaining, Ive been offered The One S or One X
Id like to know about the antenna design (google wasnt much use) Is the antenna on the One series an external antenna ? Where the antenna connectors are on the back cover ?
Id like to know a bit more before i commit to getting it, So is anyone here a Vodafone (preferably UK) User with either The one S or X ??
Could you let me know about your signal reception ? And maybe if your feeling generous Post some pictures of the Back cover for me to inspect
Also, Which would you say is the 'better' device ? I know the X is quad core, The S is Dual core, But does that make a massive difference ? Except to the battery life, which isnt the best at any given time
Thanks people, Hopefully Speak to you all again when i receive my nice new phone

I had the One X and the width of the phone annoyed me.
Now got the One S and very happy with it. Little bit more snappier I feel in menus too.

I would say the One X. It's 2012 and all highend smartphones should have HD screens.
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NardVa said:
I would say the One X. It's 2012 and all highend smartphones should have HD screens.
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I think the One X is a disappointment. The tegra 3 is just not good enough anymore for a high end modell, even if it's a quad core.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(System_on_Chip)
There is a snapdragon with a quad core coming soon, i guess htc will switch to those when they release new high end phones, that will be way better.
But it's just my humble opinion here.

Rosinior said:
I think the One X is a disappointment. The tegra 3 is just not good enough anymore for a high end modell, even if it's a quad core.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(System_on_Chip)
There is a snapdragon with a quad core coming soon, i guess htc will switch to those when they release new high end phones, that will be way better.
But it's just my humble opinion here.
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I agree with you I had the choice of both today, I chose the One S. I know the X has quad core, but more isnt always better, There are pluses and negatives to both devices but in the end the S won my vote.
Besides i can see the quad core draining battery in a heartbeat lol

Yeah, quad core is probably the last feature I am interested in from the One X. I'd take the screen, 32GB storage and NFC over the processor.
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Hey, i'm quite new here and tought I write here too. I have the same problem right now. Don't know which to choose. But here are some points for both phones. At first there is the One X:
It has a 720p 4.7" display, based on HTCs new Super-LCD 2 with IPS technology and NO Pentile-Matrix. It is said to be the best display out there. Bright and natural colours with very good black and white values. But as said it is a very big display and not fitted for every hand.
The body is out of polycarbonate which is quite durable but also not too hard. But it still is plastic and so it feels a bit cheap( correct me if I'm wrong). It surely feels cheaper than the HTC One S. But it's lighter
Let's come to the processor. The One X has the nvidia Tegra 3 Quad Core built in. It's an SoC based on the ARM Cortex A9 architecture in 40nm( for comparison: the Exynos 4210 is built on 45nm).
This isn't bad, but if you compare it to the new Krait architecture( somehow comparable to the new ARM Cortex A15 built on 28nm) it is significantly older and also slower. The Tegras GPU is an Nvidia own graphic unit which is known to be the worst of the newer GPUs( when all of them are at the same clock speed) but it should be fast enough to run most games smoothly so right now every new GPU is fast enough. A good point for the Kal-El may be the Tegra Zone, but I do not know enough of that service.
A big problem is the Quad Core unit. It's not that it's bad or doesn't work it's simply not optimized so most apps won't even fully use it. The companion core which is built into the SoC is a great power saver but it seems that it switches early to quad core( the companion core is not able to run when the quad core unit is active and the other way round) which could be seen on the battery life.
Let's come to battery life:
The One X has a 1800 mAh accu which is really good but cause of the quad core and the big display it will be consumed away very fast. So don't expect more than a day.
I don't know how much the Tegra and the display eats away so I cannot say if it will hold your 8h( display on).
I will only mention the differences of both handsets so I won't talk about the beats audio enhancement and the camera.
So let's come to the One S:
It is the smaller phone, and as you said it would be the perfect size. I think it's more comfortable to hold and also has the better feeling cause of it's unibody made out of aluminium. There are some known issues with the red black version but you can look them up in this forum.
The display is a Pentile-Matrix Super-AMOLED design with a qHD resolution( 960x540). If you compare it to the Galaxy S II Super-AMOLED-Plus non-Pentile display with a resolution of 800x480 the effective resolution is roughly the same( somehow 800*480*3 and 960*540*2 cause of the subpixel).
One problem for you may be the pixel density of the One S. When the One X has an pixel density of around 300 pixel per inch ( similar to your iPhone) the One S has one similar to your old Samsung.
The processor is something that really confuses me. It has the new Qualcomm Krait S4 SoC which seems to be a mystery.
It is built on a licensed ARMv7 architecture on 28nm called Krait. Qualcomm itself said it's comparable to a ARM Cortex A15 cpu. While that has to be seen it is clearly much faster than the Tegra 3, especially in everyday single-thread tasks. Here the Krait is extremely fast. The GPU while not the best out there is also a remarkable fast one that can compete to ARMs Mali 400 built in the Galaxy S II. You should not have problems with it.
One more thing for the Krait is it's really power efficient clocking. The Krait can clock each core independently so if it only needs one and a half it will clock the second core to half the speed. This gives it another great advantage over the Tegra which can only clock all together down.
At least the One S should hold as long as the One X despite it's smaller battery( 1650 mAh).
One other advantage may be the fact that some One S devices do have the new 3.0 Linux kernel. This is not confirmed but if it's right then the One S may be able to get USB-Hosting which means that you can use a real keyboard for example. This may arrive as an update.
So I personally prefer the One S despite the worse display and the small issues with the black and red version.
If you are interested in another phone you may also look for the Asus Padfone. Nearly the same stats as the One S but with an expendable storage and no beats audio enhancement. It may be interesting for you too.
Greetings Askannon
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I want the screen from the One X and the S4 from the One S. I guess I'm gone have to get me the One XL.
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NardVa said:
I want the screen from the One X and the S4 from the One S. I guess I'm gone have to get me the One XL.
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Hopefully the one XL comes to T-Mobile s4>tegra 3
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One s gets my vote... One x looks huge .. Uncomfortable to hold
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Midian666 said:
One S -> One X
I bought it 4 days ago and its awesome...
Most of the guys here on xda bought the one x.. the looked at the specs and see an quad core and instantly bought it.
But they forget that the tegra 3 is totally crap! 40nm, built on a 8 years old platfrom. ( shame on you nvidia) mostly closed source and crap support by nv.
qualcom did the better job with that s4
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does your phone support glonass and the front camera is 1.3mp or 0.3mp VGA? thanks inadvance

I do not know whether it has glonass or not but the one s has a vga (0.3) and the one x has a 1.3 mp front camera
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Niiceg said:
Hello, I am currently choosing between One S and One X, so I would like you to comment on some of my questions. First of all, let's talk about screen. I just had iPhone 4S, which has retina display. It is awesome, but after it, I used Omnia 7. And I see so many pixels there... It makes me sad. So can you see pixels on One S?
Second is question about real life usage. Is One S better than One X in terms of speed? I read some comments that One S is laggy in browser and some other places. Also, HTC removed some visual features from it. Like carusel effect when going between app browser and it's categories. So, One S doesn't have all the goodies that One X has?
Third is battery life. How good is battery life on One S? Would it easily last a day with 8h screen-on time? I surf a lot and play games, listen to music. So battery life is important to me.
Forth, size. I can't test them in real-life, so I have to make some decisions from comments and reviews. Is One X comfortable to use, or not? How does it compare to Galaxy Nexus, Titan and other big phones? I know that One S size would be perfect.
Fifth, the quality of materials. I just read about some strange things with One S, that it gets scratched and etc. I want to buy black/red version. Will I be affected with this thing?
Sixth, please comment on both phones and give arguments why one is better than other
BTW, how about memory? I listen to a lot of music, is there any easy way to compress mp3 and not loose quality? I think that 9GB won't be enough...
I am really thankful for all of your comments and I am really waiting for an honest help Also, I am returning to Android after more than a year being without it. So help me make the right decision and not be disappointed with it Thank you guys!
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1: Screen. It depends on you and your eyesight I'm afraid. I'm using a Nexus S as my daily driver and I didn't so much notice the pixels compared with my iPhone 4, as the screen is larger, so it's generally easier to use. I don't see the pixels on the One S; the One X does have a larger screen with a higher resolution but the difference wasn't as stark as I imagined it would be. SLCD vs AMOLED, too; AMOLED is a bit of a battery drain at times whereas the SLCD doesn't look as good at night.
2: Performance. Both felt beautifully smooth in that classic Androidy way, that is, sometimes the interface can feel a little elastic. I didn't notice any difference.
3: Battery. I didn't see eight hours of usage from my iPhone 4 unless that included a lot of music (the usage isn't screen on time). I doubt you'll see this from the One series. I'll see five hours of screen on time from my Nexus S if I restrict my data usage, especially over the 3G network. Reviews say that the One S has a small advantage, but from customers and colleagues, they're both "charge once a day" devices. No change here from almost anything else in the smartphone world, then!
4 Size. The One S feels very thin in the hand. It isn't small, it's tall, relatively narrow and oh-so-thin. It feels divine in my hands if I'm getting all arty about it. The One X, however, surprised me at how adept it felt in my hands. I was expecting it to feel a bit of a monster and it didn't. I don't like the One X's protruding lens for the camera, mind. It's quite a bump on the back.
5 Quality. Both feel good, but for me the One S takes this one. Going back to how wonderful it feels to handle, part of that is what it's made of.
6 What's better? If you need NFC, you need the One S. If you game, you're probably going to want the One X. If the One S had NFC I'd already have one, but it doesn't and I'd really like a slice of the NFC pie. If the One X didn't have that bulge on the back, I'd have one of those, but it does... So... I'm undecided.
Finally, as others have said, 9 Gb isn't so much, but it depends on your personal requirements. I don't believe the 9 Gb versus 14 Gb in my Nexus S would make any difference whatsoever as I don't use my handset as my main music device.

I think this thread has been the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I've never really cared about a pretty screen to be honest.
When the display is not a factor, the One S is just... better...

I agree, The One S is the underdog... Majority of people will think One X because its more expensive, its at the top of the One Series.... But in all fairness, The One S wins hands down for me...
Bigger isnt always better ...... ask my misses

azzledazzle said:
I agree, The One S is the underdog... Majority of people will think One X because its more expensive, its at the top of the One Series.... But in all fairness, The One S wins hands down for me...
Bigger isnt always better ...... ask my misses
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Well, thanks for all your opinions But I decided to buy One X. Why? Because I hate Omnia 7 screen, which is almost the same as One S. I see pixels, it's not sharp and etc. Also, I decided that 12GB are not enough for me.
In my opinion, HTC did a bad thing releasing One S with this poor screen and small storage.

[Q] New phone

Hey there!
I've been thinking about getting a new phone during my time at telemarketing (can get them with a decent deal), but can't really decide which one should I choose. At the moment I have HTC Desire HD and I've had it for little over a year now.
I'm down to 3 different phones: Samsung Galaxy S3, HTC One X or Nokia Lumia 900. I can get GS3 and Lumia through the telemarketing, but for One X I would have to get it from somewhere else.
GS3 and One X would be awesome choices as they are pretty new models in the market (although, Lumia 900 isn't that old either) and I'm already familiar with the Android OS. I also like that they have a Quad-core processors and the screens are amazing too. But Lumia would be an interesting choice too as I like how fluid the whole OS works. It also has couple other standard features I really like, such as the Nokia Radio-mix or whatever it is called. The build of Lumia feels really sturdy, too.
And what I look from a phone is pretty much that it would look nice, work smoothly and could be customized to at least some extent, even the small customization of Lumia with the 7.8 update is enough for me. Oh and, music is one of the more important factors for me too (GS3 still being the best choice for this with the FLAC support).
So, if you have any suggestions, please tell me! But I must say that I have time until Saturday 30th 15:59CET, because that's my last day in the job.
And please share your own experiences and thoughts of the phones too!

Whatever you do DO NOT get the Lumia 900, they will fall in value very soon as it will not get Windows 8 making them redundant with 7.8. Get it if you plan to stick with the Version 7 of windows OS but future wise it'll be a dead beat.
I've had both the HOX and SGS3 and both are fantastic phones.
If you need expandable storage and a removable battery then get the SGS3 if you don't the HOX is a great alternative. It's screen is lovely, camera is better in my eyes, it looks better, and HTC is good with software updates.
The SGS3 has the better audio via headphones if that is of any significance, records better videos but sound not all that, the screen displays deeper blacks compared to the HOX and better contrasts but images appear over saturated compared to the more natural looking images on the SLCD2 on the HOX.
You'll be happy with either.

HTC One S or Samsung Galaxy S III?

Hey guys, I'm getting a new phone in August when my contract dies. My current phone is a stock Nexus S running Jellybean. I'm trying to decide between getting the HTC One S, or the Samsung Galaxy S III. Both are priced at $400 on a 2-year contract with Virgin mobile, and I'm completely stuck on making my decision. With the One S, have any of you had considerable problems or issues with it? Would you get an SIII if you could? I believe that each of these phones are evenly matched, and each have their strengths and their weaknesses. I'm a fan of HTC Sense 4.0, and i like the overall build quality of the One S, but the S III has more ram, a removable battery and expandable memory. The HTC One X is not available with Virgin mobile, so I cannot get the HTC equivalent of the S III. Which would you recommend?
Thanks

Well. That depends. If you love trying new ROMs/kernels on your device, the s3 is going to be better in the long run. Not that the one s lacks a healthy dev community. We have many great devs with awesome Roms but the s3 has more people on board.
On the other hand, I found the one s more stylish and I like Sense 4 better.
Personally, I have no issues with my One S and with HTC promising a JB update, we know that, hopefully, all software related issues will be squished. You could look around for some common issues but nothing serious IMO but YMMV.
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Get he gs 3 and the free 50gbs of storage on dropbox. Return it and be happier with the one s and get another 25gbs of drop box for free. And keep the one s with 75gbs of storage space

davwman said:
Get he gs 3 and the free 50gbs of storage on dropbox. Return it and be happier with the one s and get another 25gbs of drop box for free. And keep the one s with 75gbs of storage space
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I only get 2gb
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k1llacanon said:
I only get 2gb
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then you prolly didnt complete the steps to get the 25 gb. you should have gotten an email when you registered for DB or signed in which told you how to get the 25 gb.
as for your q, im more than happy with the one s. The screen is the perfect size whereas i believe the SG3 has a screen thats too big to be comfortable. Maybe if you have big hand its ok lol. The only drawback i suppose would be the 16 gb storage, but using DB and google play music, that isn't really an issue. in the end though, it all comes down to your choice. Both are amazing phones

HTC One S was my choice. I prefer Sense 4.0 over Samsung's skin as well as I think HTC is doing better with updates than Sammy.
davwman said:
Get he gs 3 and the free 50gbs of storage on dropbox. Return it and be happier with the one s and get another 25gbs of drop box for free. And keep the one s with 75gbs of storage space
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I like when the face matches the words.

You know it...

Thanks guys, also, how's the display on the one s? Its a pentile which means it could be a little jagged but my Nexus S has one and I really don't find it that bad.
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Display is great, obviously not as sharp as the gs 3 and x and has less screen real estate due to the 720p res that the x and gs 3 have.
I'll let anandtech finish it off
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6

Terminator19 said:
Display is great, obviously not as sharp as the gs 3 and x and has less screen real estate due to the 720p res that the x and gs 3 have.
I'll let anandtech finish it off
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
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The One S does not have 720 dude, it has qhd. I have owned both devices and the GS3 is miles ahead of the One S
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KillaHurtz said:
The One S does not have 720 dude, it has qhd. I have owned both devices and the GS3 is miles ahead of the One S
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emmm, I didn't say that the S has 720p res.
Terminator19 said:
Display is great, obviously not as sharp as the gs 3 and x and has less screen real estate due to the 720p res that the x and gs 3 have.
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And of course you would expect the display of a device that costs about £130 more to be better.

the galaxy s3 is not miles ahead of the one s. I had it. Glad I got my money back. Its nice but it is way too big and feels like a kids toy.

I found myself in same position 3 weeks ago, and I struggled for weeks researching my choices between one s and s3. All my friends got s3 so I had a good chance to try it.
Though what s3 does is impressive as far as speed and memory goes, it seriously lags in look & feel and coolness factor. It feels like lugging around a tablet than phone and it barely fits in pocket.
Compare that to one s, which I finally ended up getting which is incredibly fast, memory though less never been a hindrance. I had 10gigs available after all system programs which I believe is plentiful when added with the online storage options.
Sure s3 beats one s in all test scores but one s Screen is unbelievable, phone is sleek and stylish and you can still reach around with one hand and fits in your pocket. Camera will put your point and shoot cameras to rest and I cannot be more happy.
And battery life is great too. I got a about 12 hours on moderate use even with couple of camera flashes and I still have 20% left.
Ultimately think of the long term impacts of having a tablet for a phone for next 2 years just because it is fast and more memory, vs. having a sleek, handy pocket able phone which is still fast with decent amount of memory.
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Does Adobe Flash still work on both devices?

gs3 = hot and plastic
main reason i switched from gs2 to one s
i tried the gs3 its just gets hot when using the phone

Actually the GS 3 doesn't even beat the S in all of the benchmark tests (both the quad and S4 version), yes the res. does have an impact but then the XL has the same hardware but also 720P res. and it still beats the GS 3 in the majority of tests.
The GS 3 international version only beats both in the tests, which uses the GPU such as quadrant etc. as the GPU is far better than the adreno 225.
Only areas that the GS 3 is better is:
screen
1080P recording
storage/SD slot
removable battery
bigger developing community
Everything else is more or less same or better on the S (IMO):
- camera is more or less the same (some photos look better on the GS 3, others look better on the S), however, the UI is better than touchwiz alternative and has way more features, which are actually cool and make taking photos more enjoyable.
- Speed/smoothness is more or less the same, only reason the GS 3 appears to be smoother is due to the animations/timing that is used, could achieve the same if you flashed those animations and had the exact same timings, besides were getting JB soon hopefully so there will be virtually no difference then (on any of the phones)
- audio is more or less the same (some say the GS 3 is better, others say the S is better)
- out of the box battery life is better (to be expected considering the S has a smaller battery and is only qHD), not by a huge amount though, however, with the GS 3 you can carry spare batteries around with you
- sense V4 is far far better in looks/UI, unified feel, the stock apps are amazing such as the gallery, calendar etc. touchwiz has loads of gestures and some cool features (but the majority of these are being ported over to every other android phone, such as the smart stay feature (iseeyou, works great on my S), Svoice, smart status bar (can drag the notification bar down when in an app full screen) etc. only a matter of time till we get things that like smart alert etc. The same can't be said with sense app/features though. IMO touchwiz is too bloated and no real unified feel across the apps/menus etc. everything just looks disorganized and the colour scheme is too kiddish/cartoonish
- and lastly the build/perceived quality of the S is miles ahead of the GS 3 and IMO looks far better compared to the GS 3 (subjective the looks though)

Do you want a phone that fits in your trouser pocket?
Get the One S
Are you a basketball player with huge hands?
Get the One X or Galaxy S3
Want to watch lots of movies?
Get a tablet.
Phones are getting far too big these days. Unfortunately there are no top spec 4" phones, so I got the One S. It's still in the mail so I can't really review it further. Manufacturers really need to learn from apple here, make it pocket sized for f&# sake. Also half the market is female and even being an average size male I find the latest phones too large.
There are some things that suck on the One S though: No MicroSD , Stupid capacitive buttons, at least samsung always have one proper button, sense UI looks like tacky plastic ****.
If you do get one s make sure it's not the old snapdragon S3 SoC which has worse battery life.

I whole heartedly agree with the above. I'm 6'0 healthy 225 pounds guy that thought the beastly oversized gs3 would fit me. I was wrong. That thing is just way to big. I found one handed operations almost impossible. The display isn't that great either, not for the price. Plus I had a amoled smear that looked like a smiley face smack in the center of the screen. The one s that uses Samsung amoled displays shows no sign of such things.

Terminator19 said:
Only areas that the GS 3 is better is:
screen
1080P recording
storage/SD slot
removable battery
bigger developing community
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We have 1080p recording.
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Pheroh said:
We have 1080p recording.
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Yeah I know
But the GS 3 is far better for light metering and smoothness and slightly better quality as well.

Lumia 820 VS Lumia 920

Hey im from Israel so im sry for my bad english.
I want to buy a new phone and im thinking about Lumia 820 but i want to know to about the disadvantage of the 820 against the Advantage of 920.
I want to know if this is really big different and its ok to buy the 820 because the price or to add more money and buy the 920.
Questions
1. Is there Big different between the display I mean the PPI?
2. the 820 have Pureview or not ?
3.Does the 820 have wireless charcing?

My assessment based on the specs from Nokia.com and from using both units at the AT&T store in the USA:
920 pros:
- 32GB built in
- better camera with pureview
- better screen with higher dpi
- free wireless charging offer in USA (built in coil in case plus free offer for charging unit)
- gorilla glass
920 cons:
- bigger/heavier
- fixed battery - looks like you need to totally disassemble and find a supplier of the BP-4GW battery which would probably need replacement after ~1 year of use just after warranty expires. Although it is Li-Po which should last longer than standard Li-Ion,
- no ram expansion
820 pros:
- light/small
- replaceable battery - easy to keep a charged spare on hand
- expandable ram to 72GB with 64GB microSDHX card
820 cons:
- only 8GB built in
- worse screen - lower dpi
- worse camera without pureview
- pay extra for wireless charging - need to buy optional charging shell with coil plus the charging unit itself
- no gorilla glass
The teardowns may be helpful:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Noki...eardown-treatment_id35930#5-Lumia-920-diagram
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/11/07/n...nternal-photos-bp-4gw-2000mah-battery-inside/
Specs:
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia810/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia820/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia822/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia920/specifications/
There really isn't a lot else to say. Its just personal preference.

danchar4 said:
My assessment based on the specs from Nokia.com and from using both units at the AT&T store in the USA:
920 pros:
- 32GB built in
- better camera with pureview
- better screen with higher dpi
- free wireless charging offer in USA (built in coil in case plus free offer for charging unit)
- gorilla glass
920 cons:
- bigger/heavier
- fixed battery - looks like you need to totally disassemble and find a supplier of the BP-4GW battery which would probably need replacement after ~1 year of use just after warranty expires. Although it is Li-Po which should last longer than standard Li-Ion,
- no ram expansion
820 pros:
- light/small
- replaceable battery - easy to keep a charged spare on hand
- expandable ram to 72GB with 64GB microSDHX card
820 cons:
- only 8GB built in
- worse screen - lower dpi
- worse camera without pureview
- pay extra for wireless charging - need to buy optional charging shell with coil plus the charging unit itself
- no gorilla glass
The teardowns may be helpful:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Noki...eardown-treatment_id35930#5-Lumia-920-diagram
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/11/07/n...nternal-photos-bp-4gw-2000mah-battery-inside/
Specs:
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia810/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia820/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia822/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia920/specifications/
There really isn't a lot else to say. Its just personal preference.
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Thank u so much !

If you want to make full usage of the pureview camera then go fo the 920 as it has all the trimmings and slightly larger screen/resolution, The 820 still takes a very nice picture as it is still 8MP, In my opinion the concept of the 820 is better as it has a removable battery and upgradable storage and weight/size wise it is lighter and more manageable, The screen has been noted as displaying a more vivd image compared to the 920 and you can change the outer shells, However it does not have Gorilla glass but instead a scratch resistant surface, It does have wireless charging too,
The design of the 820 diverts from the Traditional striking Lumia shape and looks like any other phone from a distance, Performance wise they both use the same chipset for CPU and RAM and there is little noted difference,
A difficult decision which I had to make and through personal choice I went for the 820 as I still felt it to be an upgrade from my Lumia 900.

You should get both in your hand. In my opinion 820 is already heavy and square-cut.

I tested Nokia Lumia 820 for 40 days. I sold this nokia. I back to iOS. Reasons:
- No good apps in appMarket
- terrible keypad ( texting )
- general sound management ( WTF?? )
- not customisable sms tones
- very heavy device
- not comfortable in my hand ( in 40 days period i drop 6-7 times from my hand )
- picture quality/ autofocus (iPhone 4 better)
iPhone 4 is 10000000000% better than Lumia 820.
P.S. I am testing all devices. Always back to iPhone. In my opinion:
1. iOS
2. Android
3. WP8
4. BlackBerry
Please, if You thinking that WP8 is better than iOS, please reply with reasons in this topic.
kind regards
Marcin

troxter said:
I tested Nokia Lumia 820 for 40 days. I sold this nokia. I back to iOS. Reasons:
- No good apps in appMarket
- terrible keypad ( texting )
- general sound management ( WTF?? )
- not customisable sms tones
- very heavy device
- not comfortable in my hand ( in 40 days period i drop 6-7 times from my hand )
- picture quality/ autofocus (iPhone 4 better)
iPhone 4 is 10000000000% better than Lumia 820.
P.S. I am testing all devices. Always back to iPhone. In my opinion:
1. iOS
2. Android
3. WP8
4. BlackBerry
Please, if You thinking that WP8 is better than iOS, please reply with reasons in this topic.
kind regards
Marcin
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Sounds like a very thorough and thought out review there. Apps will arrive, you have to accept that if you buy into Windows 8 your an early adopter (rather than a sheeple folloeing the iDevices crowd) so that aside lets look at your other statements:
Very heavy - I find the Samsung's for example way too light, you want your phone to have some weight so it feels like it has some build quality to it and you won;t throw it down so hard.
Terrible Keypad - well aside form no qualifiers whatsoever, lets look at many other reviews and technical opinions on the Windows Keyboard being far superior to most others. such as hold and swipe to get 2nd key function, saves so much time.
No customizable SMS tone - oh, i think we found a true criticism, i have to agree here. I was hoping window s8 would allow new alert tones.
General sound management - ?? You have in call and main volume then games have their own volume controls that provide finite volume adjustment.
Picture quality - well my 900 always takes better pictures than my gf's iPhone 4. I doubt the 820 is any worse but i'll let you know when mine arrives.
Doesn't feel comfortable in your hand - but an iPhone with almost identical shape does?

@ Troxter
How much are you paid by Apple to write such things ?
90% of Ipfone applications are shorcuts of a web Explorer leading to sites that have adapted their page definition
Before IPhone there were phones with 6.5 Windows doing alla what an IPhone does and mostly without connection.
But at that Time, noobs knew only Nokia....
And to be "anti Microsoft" is for some peaple the only way to look as geek, otherwise they are bubbles

i have had the lumia 820 in the uk now for a week now, its a fantastic handset does everything i need and much more carnt comment on the 920 as would not consider one because of there size, as for screen clarity the lumia 820 is superb crisp and clear, the added advantage is removable back shell to another colour, i have had the iphone 4s and iphone 4 and the lumia 820 beats them both handsdown its a far better device in everyway in my my opinion.
i dont think there will be envy over some one having the 920 as the lumia 820 does all i need and much more.
the lumia series are fantastic handsets and the new improvments especially in the music sound quality is great.
its all about personal choice for me the lumia 820 is my choice.

while hardware (screen, speed, camera) of the Lumia is really great, I'm not convinced
that W8 is as ergonomic as my android. There are so many things I can customize in
android and so few in W8. Maybe time will bring some more, but currently I think
It's hard for people experienced in other OS to change.

Not the right place
Jericoacoara said:
while hardware (screen, speed, camera) of the Lumia is really great, I'm not convinced
that W8 is as ergonomic as my android. There are so many things I can customize in
android and so few in W8. Maybe time will bring some more, but currently I think
It's hard for people experienced in other OS to change.
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We don't car about your Android mania her we talk about Nokia 820 and 920.
People knowing DOS at a time were against Windows ...even IBM.....
Anyway Tiles concept are a genious invention compare to Icons were its difficult to type the right one.
And Icons were invented I guess by MS

820, good enough
I wanted to buy my phone outright, I don't like contracts.
I felt there were two downsides to the 820. 8GB storage, not having gorilla glass.
I've found that after installing a bunch of applications, and the nokia maps sizes, that the 8gb gets used up very quickly. The SD expandable slot is only good for music, videos, and pictures. All application data for whatever reason has to go on the internal memory so in a years time I might regret the decision.
But I personally don't find the need for the 720p or WXGA resolution that necessary.
That being said, I could have done with a Nokia 620, but it isn't out until February really.. but it is far cheaper!

My opinion for WP8
As I use to used SGS2 and Iphone4 before and now own Lumia 820
- WP8 bring a new thing mostly for interface
- WP8 bring a lot of new feature and technology
- WP8 lack of basic feature such as separate notification in each application, no file explorer then cannot save/send/attach some files type with email and etc.
- WP8 update is take time too much compare with Iphone and Android they are release hot fix soonest.
- WP8 application not good functional such as Skype, Facebook. I'm Focus to Skype that is OWN by MS but too poor while position it to be replaced MSN.
- WP8 not support others browser than IE10, it is not have 'Forward' and others feature.
- WP8 cannot close app with one click/touch, have to get back step by step
- WP8 not support static IP address
- WP8 cannot lock screen rotation.
- WP8 not have short cut directly setup Wi-Fi, BT and etc. Only have app that bring you into that screen.
- Still more but I just stop here is better
Above from my opinion, I'm MS fan but I'm thinking to go back Android until most of the thing provided. MS should consider and focus most of basic features must available too. New thing is great and surprise, however the basic thing is more often use customer is no only in US. Many feature is really useless.
Hope this information get take care soon before I change back to Android (even it lag need to reboot some time but still had many things I can use)

Its not an Android Topic
pungponx said:
As I use to used SGS2 and Iphone4 before and now own Lumia 820
- WP8 bring a new thing mostly for interface
- WP8 bring a lot of new feature and technology
- WP8 lack of basic feature such as separate notification in each application, no file explorer then cannot save/send/attach some files type with email and etc.
- WP8 update is take time too much compare with Iphone and Android they are release hot fix soonest.
- WP8 application not good functional such as Skype, Facebook. I'm Focus to Skype that is OWN by MS but too poor while position it to be replaced MSN.
- WP8 not support others browser than IE10, it is not have 'Forward' and others feature.
- WP8 cannot close app with one click/touch, have to get back step by step
- WP8 not support static IP address
- WP8 cannot lock screen rotation.
- WP8 not have short cut directly setup Wi-Fi, BT and etc. Only have app that bring you into that screen.
- Still more but I just stop here is better
Above from my opinion, I'm MS fan but I'm thinking to go back Android until most of the thing provided. MS should consider and focus most of basic features must available too. New thing is great and surprise, however the basic thing is more often use customer is no only in US. Many feature is really useless.
Hope this information get take care soon before I change back to Android (even it lag need to reboot some time but still had many things I can use)
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We don't care about your Android mania her we talk about Nokia 820 and 920.
People knowing DOS at a time were against Windows ...even IBM.....
Anyway Tiles concept are a genious invention compare to Icons were its difficult to type the right one.
And Icons were invented I guess by MS

good points. thank you

I've sold iphone 4 and bought lumia 820. I've used it for 2 days.
First, Lumia 820 is quite attractive, not too heavy. Although it is quite big but it is not a big deal 'cos the screen of lumia is bigger than iphone.
Next, Apps for lumia are less than Apple or Google 'cos Windows 8 was released later than others.
I think that windows 8 will have been more convenient in future.
It's hard to state what phone is better. It depends on your opinion, on work, and on the way to entertain.
By the way, you should not regret when you choose a phone.

the 810 has gorilla glass 2 and I believe that the 822 does as well...

lumia 820 or 920
andy1969 said:
i have had the lumia 820 in the uk now for a week now, its a fantastic handset does everything i need and much more carnt comment on the 920 as would not consider one because of there size, as for screen clarity the lumia 820 is superb crisp and clear, the added advantage is removable back shell to another colour, i have had the iphone 4s and iphone 4 and the lumia 820 beats them both handsdown its a far better device in everyway in my my opinion.
i dont think there will be envy over some one having the 920 as the lumia 820 does all i need and much more.
the lumia series are fantastic handsets and the new improvments especially in the music sound quality is great.
its all about personal choice for me the lumia 820 is my choice.
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Yes after lots of evaluation I chose the 820 also. My contract was up, so I visited a few shops to see the devices actually working. I was a samsung omnia 7 user for 2 years, and superficially I got used to the amoled look, deep blacks and eye popping colors. I had 8gb on my omnia and never ran out of memory, mainly because Im not a great foto-geek and tend to uninstall apps and craps that I never use much. The 920 has a high resolution screen and I noticed that, but the colours(although more natural) were a bit subdued for me. Just the idea of a removable battery and an sdcard slot plus removable shells werethe decision point for me . So I went for the cyan 820, and love it although compared to the omnia 7 it is quite heavy. But whenever I see sexy Jessica alba chicks with 920s I ALWAYS compliment them on their choice.

Hello guys .
How can I find out my lumia 820 is cons or pros ?
My device have Amoled display and removable battery .

The glass on 820 is scratch-resistant, but it’s not Gorilla Glass
There is no gorilla glass on Lumia 820, but the glass on 820 is scratch-resistant.
danchar4 said:
My assessment based on the specs from Nokia.com and from using both units at the AT&T store in the USA...
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HTC M4(News updated on #55) finally leaked news!

News updated on #55
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_readying_720p_jb_m4_and_budget_ics_g2_for_spring-news-5462.php
4.3" 720P
2GB ram
1.2G S4 CPU(lol?)
16GB rom(still...)
13M cam f/2.0(same as M7)
720p front cam
LTE
1700mAH battery
Sense 5.0 on JB4.2
The CPU is same as One SV(down-clocked S4) but I doubt it very much because it would not make any existing One S customer to upgrade. So, I think the CPU should at least stay the same with One S(1.5G) or little faster(like 1.7G).
I think the LCD should change to SLCD2 this time instead of AMOLED Plus like One SV(4.3" SLCD2). I actually quite like AMOLED on phone because of perfect black but SLCD2(IPS) has better viewing experiences under sunlight which is more important to me. At the end, I don't care if it's still AMOLED or IPS, they both have pros and cons.
I have a high chance to get M4 because I don't want any size larger than 4.3". However, my One S is still lovely and used only 8 months.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-C5303-HuaShan-midranger-smiles-for-the-camera_id39165
I may wait Sony and see, they are also going to out 4.0" ~ 4.3" 720P LTE with ExmorRS, Qualcomm MSM8960T Dual 1.7GHz with Adreno 320 GPU(I think M4 will use 8960T). Model name: C5302, C5303, C5306 (Code name:HuaShan).

TheEndHK said:
4.3" 720P
2GB ram
1.2G S4 CPU(lol?)
16GB rom(still...)
The CPU is same as One SV(down-clocked S4) but I doubt it very much because it would not make any existing One S customer to upgrade. So, I think the CPU should at least stay the same with One S(1.5G) or little faster(like 1.7G).
I think the LCD should change to SLCD2 this time instead of AMOLED Plus like One SV(4.3" SLCD2). I actually quite like AMOLED on phone because of perfect black but SLCD2(IPS) has better viewing experiences under sunlight which is more important to me. At the end, I don't care if it's still AMOLED or IPS, they both have pros and cons.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-C5303-HuaShan-midranger-smiles-for-the-camera_id39165
I may wait Sony and see, they are also going to out 4.0" ~ 4.3" 720P LTE with ExmorRS, Qualcomm MSM8960T Dual 1.7GHz with Adreno 320 GPU(I think M4 will use 8960T). Model name: C5302, C5303, C5306 (Code name:HuaShan).
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Well I actually lover the cpu choice. Everything runs smooth on this cpu, and with a less heavy skinned Jb (sense 5) this will only improve. Every singel game runs brilliant. I don't think you will notice its downclocked on sense 5 and will bring a lot better battery life I gues.
The display in the one S is great. But when I hold it next to the One X or the SGIII or even the xperia T it really looks dreadfull. The colors and brightness seems fine but compared to these crisp screens it really falls out of the boat.
I'm wondering what the impact will be of a higher res lcd display on the 1.2ghz S4 though.
There are some Sony alternatives. Something I really like about those phones is the waterproof ones. But than again the Sony skin on these phones are just lame. All that grey bled stuff makes it really boring (and ugly), a funeral looks more cheerfull than that.
As I'm looking to replace my One S in march, my preference will still be the Xiaom MI-2.
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And I cant edit my post because my post is to short (less than 2 characters) which its obviously not... So umh.. Yes the S4 Pro quad core is a lot more powerful without sacrificing a lot of battery, but comes with a price tag. And I think this phone will be launched as a sub-high-end alternative for the M7 (like the One S was with the one X).

Vauix said:
Well I actually lover the cpu choice. Everything runs smooth on this cpu, and with a less heavy skinned Jb (sense 5) this will only improve. Every singel game runs brilliant. I don't think you will notice its downclocked on sense 5 and will bring a lot better battery life I gues.
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You can trick the Power Saving on in JB, it will limit both cores to 1134mhz max on One S to save battery.
yup, I spoke many times in this broad 720P is a lot better(I was own a Xperia S and that is only a suck TFT mon, not IPS). QHD resolution is really not enough for text reading though. 720P does drains more cpu power over QHD because more pixels to render on screen so it's questionable to make cpu slower while the device actually needs more cpu.
All 1080P devices go with quad-core because they need even more cpu power to render extra pixels. 8960T is just a dual core ver of 1.7G S4 but with a upgraded GPU(Adreno 320).

HTC is really slipping. Three is nothing good about this device. The one thing I hated most about this phone is the terrible memory and HTC made the same mistake again... Better off with the Samsung galaxy s4 or the next nexus device. I strongly recommend skipping any HTC device for a long time.
This is NOT an upgrade to the One S, it's a sad excuse.

Closed Source Project said:
HTC is really slipping. Three is nothing good about this device. The one thing I hated most about this phone is the terrible memory and HTC made the same mistake again... Better off with the Samsung galaxy s4 or the next nexus device. I strongly recommend skipping any HTC device for a long time.
This is NOT an upgrade to the One S, it's a sad excuse.
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Everyone has right on his own opinion, but I completely disagree with you with everything you just said.
I actually LOVE this device! the only thing i would change was the display. It shows quality all around. Incredible sound quality for both headphone and speaker, a slick (aluminum) design, great performance (was the best of its time) and a really really great camera. And although you can't fully unlock it and they released only a partial sourcecode doesn't mean its instantly trash.
Every single thing on the M4 is an upgrade for the One S, besides the CPU. And quite frankly I really don't see the use for a quadcore in a 4.3 inch phone with android 4.2. As the one S proved JB is buttery smooth on this chipset. Yes the IPS display will but its tax on the CPU, but with a lighter (and a lot lighter by the looks of the leaks) sense running on 4.2, I highly doubt you will notice it.
And yes I love the idea of the nexus serie and love the looks of stock android. But I never ever want it as a daily driver. It's just to formal and vannila for my taste. In the Gingerbread and ICS days i would have loved it because it was so much smoother than skinned phones. But JB brought a lot of chance in that, and the phone manufactures really stepped up there game with software development and drivers. Therefor a Nexus phone doesn't have any appeal for me AT ALL.

Re: HTC M4(One S upgrade) finally leaked news!
Great! When this phone comes out, one s prices will drop!
Sent from my HTC Desire C using xda app-developers app

The specs looks quite ok... But wtf? 1.2Ghz cpu speed? WHY!? Ive downclocked my S to 1.2Ghz a few times to save battery, and the difference is very noticable in speed. The battery I save I lose right away when having to wait extra long for something to finish loading.

Goatshocker said:
The specs looks quite ok... But wtf? 1.2Ghz cpu speed? WHY!? Ive downclocked my S to 1.2Ghz a few times to save battery, and the difference is very noticable in speed. The battery I save I lose right away when having to wait extra long for something to finish loading.
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Since every other mid-range phone is running S4 1.5G now, I don't think HTC will use 1.2G on their 2013 new phone. Sony's up coming mid-range will use MSM8960T 1.7G dual, I think HTC will just follow Sony.

Vauix said:
Everyone has right on his own opinion, but I completely disagree with you with everything you just said.
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Hey, sorry to forget mention about Xiaom MI-2. We have many chances to use China smartphone/tablet here in Hong Kong. I've to say it depends on your usage.
They are general powerful on hardware and cheap at price because they cut the cost from software development. You have no chance to get a stock rom close to the HTC/Samsung/Sony level, don't even to think get as many updates as HTC. So, the performance totally depends by custom roms and flash rom is almost a necessary on China stuffs. I see Xiaom MI-2 got a dev broad on XDA now.
If you are going to use it with only some general apps and not a heavy usage user, the stock rom may works fine and China stuffs almost never come with google playstore and map and others google apps, you have to get root access and install them by yourself. Not sure about Xiaom MI-2.

AW: HTC M4(One S upgrade) finally leaked news!
I think apart from the weak cpu clockspeed(hopefully they will change to something like 1.5-1.7ghz), this phone is nice. But I think I am gonna keep my one S for this year and afterwards there will be new phones as well, so no need to buy one. One S is still just fine for everything.
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app

TheEndHK said:
Hey, sorry to forget mention about Xiaom MI-2. We have many chances to use China smartphone/tablet here in Hong Kong. I've to say it depends on your usage.
They are general powerful on hardware and cheap at price because they cut the cost from software development. You have no chance to get a stock rom close to the HTC/Samsung/Sony level, don't even to think get as many updates as HTC. So, the performance totally depends by custom roms and flash rom is almost a necessary on China stuffs. I see Xiaom MI-2 got a dev broad on XDA now.
If you are going to use it with only some general apps and not a heavy usage user, the stock rom may works fine and China stuffs almost never come with google playstore and map and others google apps, you have to get root access and install them by yourself. Not sure about Xiaom MI-2.
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Thanks for your insight. But I think the MI-2 is worth another look. It's roots in rom development (the famous MIUI rom's) which are so succesfull they started building phones there self. I actually love the software and see more future in than in sense or touchwiz UX. They have monthly updates which are based on the miui community and by the looks of the reviews and benchmarks the firmware seems very optimized (all most the speed of the nexus 4, better audio quality than most high end phones, and photo quality is on par with the iphone and sony/samsung devices).
Many people view this phone as another cheap china phone, but I think it deserves a lot more credit than that. There are reports Xiaomi will bring the MI-2 to the US market this year, and is getting a lot of support all round (did i mention Qualcomm is one of the biggest investors?).
I don't want to sounds like this is the best phone on the market or that I'm completely sure I'm going to get one, i just want to raise it out of the budget phone segment.

HTC One S is ok for the average joe but if you want to...
i have an un branded HTC ONE S, which has been good to me in terms of using custom roms/kernels without too much hassle.
rooting on the other hand was bit of a nightmare, but that was due to me not reading all that i could before i tried, which leads me to the pain in the a** S-ON and having to flash boot kernels/recoveries with ADB (which is no longer a problem with FLASH IMAGE GUI supporting our device)
also the16gb rom is a bit low...would like to have the ability to upgrade to 32
i really dont see too much of an upgrade for our device , the HTC One S is ok for the average joe but if you want to root and mess round with custom roms and kernels, choose another device to upgrade to

This is so annoying. Still using 16 GB of internal memory, and now with 13mp camera (useless) so we can only fit 10 pictures.
Also, I guarantee this is gonna be S4 Plus (not Pro) and therefore it will have the Adreno 305 GPU. The old S4 Plus which the One S has, contains an Adreno 225, which is actually a lot faster than the 305.
So take a slower GPU and pair it with a 720p screen (instead of our 540p), take away some CPU performance as well, and what do you get?
And a 13 mp camera, seriously, I thought the "megapixel race" ended ages ago. How many people actually print out billboards from pictures taken on your phone? Just focus on lens quality and aperture, leave the megapixels at 8. Hell, even 5 is more than enough, I never take pictures at more than 2 mp myself.
HTC is digging its own grave.

djsubtronic said:
This is so annoying. Still using 16 GB of internal memory, and now with 13mp camera (useless) so we can only fit 10 pictures.
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Lol, bit of an exaggeration there.......
I have had over a 1000 photos (including lots of 1080P and slow motion footage) on my S and still had 5GB left. I don't store any music on my phone so 16GB is more than enough for me and is for many others, nexus 4 16 and 8GB models as well as iphones etc. sell well enough so the ones who want 32GB+ internal and/or a SD slot are in a small minority.
Also, we have no idea yet as to what the camera lens etc. is not to mention software/driver tweaks/optimisation, so how can you judge the camera when the phone specs etc. haven't even been confirmed
Regarding the M7 camera;
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-m7-rumored-carry-43-ultrapixel-camera
So it could be the same for the M4, just the way the camera on the X and S are the same.

HTC obviously has got everything wrong if they expect people to NOT store music on a "beats" branded phone.

djsubtronic said:
This is so annoying. Still using 16 GB of internal memory, and now with 13mp camera (useless) so we can only fit 10 pictures.
Also, I guarantee this is gonna be S4 Plus (not Pro) and therefore it will have the Adreno 305 GPU. The old S4 Plus which the One S has, contains an Adreno 225, which is actually a lot faster than the 305.
So take a slower GPU and pair it with a 720p screen (instead of our 540p), take away some CPU performance as well, and what do you get?
And a 13 mp camera, seriously, I thought the "megapixel race" ended ages ago. How many people actually print out billboards from pictures taken on your phone? Just focus on lens quality and aperture, leave the megapixels at 8. Hell, even 5 is more than enough, I never take pictures at more than 2 mp myself.
HTC is digging its own grave.
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yup, both CPU/GPU will be slower than One S if it is real using the Qualcomm S4 Plus MSM8930 Dual 1.2G but I doubt that because it will happen the case on One S(S3) again, a great smartphone with slower cpu and terrible sales result.
The M7/M4 will both likely using the technology similar to Foveon X3 RGB 3CMOS on DSLR. It means 3 x 4.3M CMOS combined together to output a 13M photo, you get perfect color and white balance reproduction this time. However, low light and high ISO might be even worse because three CMOS there to share the aperture now, the photo should be darker and more noises appear.
It is absolutely a killer to Nokia Pureview808 and the upcoming Nokia Lumia 950(WP8 with Pureview808) in summer but might not be on the same boat with original One X/S and Nokia 920 which targeted at low lighting environment. I'll see how M7/M4 to handle low light with this new 3CMOS because low light is more important to me.

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If you care about low light that mufh, why don't get a dslr?
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gock said:
If you care about low light that mufh, why don't get a dslr?
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Because often when one is in low light conditions and wants to take pictures, they don't usually have their hefty DSLR kit with them. People only carry that stuff around when it's planned. If you go out for some drinks in the evening and want to take some pictures, the One S works wonders, and hence I actually really appreciate its ability to take decent pics in those scenarios without a flash.
Looks like I'll either be skipping an upgrade this year and stick with the One S, or sadly move to a different brand. Unless the M4 turns out to be different.

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Well I actually lover the cpu choice. Everything runs smooth on this cpu, and with a less heavy skinned Jb (sense 5) this will only improve. Every singel game runs brilliant. I don't think you will notice its downclocked on sense 5 and will bring a lot better battery life I gues.
The display in the one S is great. But when I hold it next to the One X or the SGIII or even the xperia T it really looks dreadfull. The colors and brightness seems fine but compared to these crisp screens it really falls out of the boat.
I'm wondering what the impact will be of a higher res lcd display on the 1.2ghz S4 though.
There are some Sony alternatives. Something I really like about those phones is the waterproof ones. But than again the Sony skin on these phones are just lame. All that grey bled stuff makes it really boring (and ugly), a funeral looks more cheerfull than that.
As I'm looking to replace my One S in march, my preference will still be the Xiaom MI-2.
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And I cant edit my post because my post is to short (less than 2 characters) which its obviously not... So umh.. Yes the S4 Pro quad core is a lot more powerful without sacrificing a lot of battery, but comes with a price tag. And I think this phone will be launched as a sub-high-end alternative for the M7 (like the One S was with the one X).
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Yes, and the lower processing speed will in fact increase the battery life too...
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Here are some photos of the M4:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_m4_appears_in_front_of_the_camera_for_the_first_time-news-5498.php
The M7 specs/design has been confirmed:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_m7_to_launch_on_march_8_in_france_priced_at_650-news-5496.php
The listing also confirms the specifications of HTC M7 to sport a 4.7" Full HD display, 1.7 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon quad-core processor along with 2GB RAM, 32 GB internal memory with microSD support, 4G, NFC, Android Jelly Bean and 2,300mAh battery
Furthermore, HTC M7 will be using a 13-megapixel camera with stacked sensor and ultrapixels for the first time and it will be interesting to see how the camera performs. M7 is also confirmed to feature the latest HTC 5.0 sense and Double HP techno Beats Audio.
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I imagine the black M7 will be similar to the black m4. M4 looks quite curvy/ergonomic and a bit thick so it looks like it will feel comfortable/nice in the hand.
By the looks of it, the speakers are on the front of the M7 too Also I am glad that they aren't going any bigger than 4.7".