Can't seem to have a clear answer... Will VOIP (such as skype, Viber...) work in the background on WP7.8?
In my opinion, this makes a huge difference for most.
If you want to compare Windows phone (the Lumia 900 for example) with other same standard phones... The 900 is amazing. However, it majorly lacks VOIP running in the background.
Recent WP customers may have known the risk of not getting WP8... but the skype thing is something else.
Anyway, I'm just wondering if it's official... will WP7.8 support skype in the background or not?
Probably not, Nothing is written in stone as yet with regards to what will be in WP7.8, Other than the new start screen.
Fingers crosses it will but no one can say if it will or it wont. We'll just have to wait till they release more information on what is in Windows Phone 7.8
AndyFZ1S said:
Probably not, Nothing is written in stone as yet with regards to what will be in WP7.8, Other than the new start screen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It kinda is... During the summit they clearly said there is more to 7.8 but that's not what they had gathered for.
Here found this:
http://conversations.nokia.com/2012/06/20/new-nokia-apps-zynga-games-to-make-your-lumia-even-better/
Part that is of our interest -
"Elsewhere, you may have read about the new Windows Phone 8. How does this affect your Lumia? Well, you are not being left out. All Lumia smartphones will be getting an update to give you some of the features of Windows Phone 8, including the new Start screen, as well as a pattern of ongoing updates going forward."
When the summit was summarised, it was told that we will get continuing support from OEMs. I am inclined to believe that OEMs will dish out a range of updates for another 12-15 months or so for WP7 to bring it as close as possible to WP8. When WP8.5 is released, WP7 will truely be dead, which is OK.
Nokia have definitely promised ongoing support including some of their own little extras for camera and ting, No doubt MS will still be forwarding the odd update here and there but we cannot say for definite whether Skype will have background support in WP 7.8. :fingers-crossed:
They made no mention of it, the only thing confirmed coming to WP7.8 is the new start screen. Whether voip or location based apps can run in the background was not mentioned. So far it's just the skin change that is confirmed.
AndyFZ1S said:
Nokia have definitely promised ongoing support including some of their own little extras for camera and ting, No doubt MS will still be forwarding the odd update here and there but we cannot say for definite whether Skype will have background support in WP 7.8. :fingers-crossed:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I really hope so.
But it's the lack of information/confirmation that is worrying me
In my opinion, it would be more logical for MS to reassure WP7.5 existing and future users as much as they can, if they want to keep selling windows phones now (till WP8 is out). Instead of keeping them in the dark... Unless it's truly just a new start screen (and a couple of minore improvements)
Even if Skype doesn't get integrated, the app itself will develop and evolve. I think WP7.8 will be a little more dev-friendly and hence don't see why VOIP in background wont happen. However, it isnt confirmed as you guys said. We only have to wait 2-3 months more
The really stupid thing is that it would totally be possible to add the most basic of "background" functionality - push notificactions - today. Yeah, that's not as good as the truly integrated experience talked about in WP8, but it's a lot better than what we have right now... and it's been possible (at least, to a limited degree) since launch!
Related
When I read the headline from WMPoweruser that WM7 is not going to have compatibility with apps from WM6.5 and prior, I did a doubletake. Admittedly, perhaps it was a bit presumptuous, but I had always thought Microsoft would work on Windows Mobile similarly to, well, Windows.
Or any other operating system, for that matter.
After hearing the news, I immediately went on my phone, and started counting all the apps which I consider of any importance. I have a total of 25 apps which I consider of any importance to the usage of my phone. Of those 25 apps, I consider 10 to be very important (apps I'd be hard pressed to give up). Of those 10, about 5 (possibly 6) will probably be updated for WM7, and there's a good chance I may be wrong on some of those.
Now, I've read theories that Microsoft will possibly create an emulator within WM7 that allows legacy apps to work or, at the least, develop a way for companies to easily update their apps to WM7 compatibility. I can't be sure what is right or even if the incompatibility is just a result of the OS being an early build, but to be honest, I can't imagine myself giving up all the apps I've gotten used to.
Any good application coder would re-write his/her apps imo. If you really want WM7 to be brand new, some things have to be left behind. And yeah an emulator or something like WINE would work nicely.
Not a problem for me. There are enough apps needed a update for YEARS....
So it is a good chance for a clean restart with new software, services and fun.
This needs to be done, otherwise it'll just keep getting worse and worse.
JRK-Scope said:
Any good application coder would re-write his/her apps imo. If you really want WM7 to be brand new, some things have to be left behind. And yeah an emulator or something like WINE would work nicely.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do agree with you that a developer who wants their software to have the best optimization will rewrite it, but realistically speaking, it probably won't happen. Speaking from experience of similar things happening elsewhere, the only apps likely to get updated are the apps which are regularly updated anyway.
Apps which haven't receive an update in years aren't likely to be rewritten for an entirely new OS. Apps which have active developers may still not get an update anyway because the developer may not see it as cost effective (if it's a paid app) or if the developer lost interest (free app).
I mean, hell, there's still a large number of WinMo apps I come across all the time still listed as only WM5/6 compatible (although they seem to work fine with WM6.1/6.5). Meh, looking at the responses, I guess this isn't such a big deal for others as it is for me.
Yeah it is like old 16 bit games will not work in windows environment but better 32 bit games are available.. but there hacks to run 16 bit games and programs so it wil not be a issue.
Also this is good for Windows mobile community as old programs were degined with stylus in mind so new apps will utilize upcoming capacitve screens and other sensors.
lets wait till feb to make any presumptions. i read the article. that guy is supposed to be like a guru but he says android version numbers wrong, retells a bunch of strange rumors, and has no screenshots.
Who cares, as long as this means games will be nicer use the compass, accelorometer, lightsensors and gps with finger friendly fancy UI's.....and comes to the HD2 at least
I would take this "news" with a massive pinch of salt, guys.
One very important thing to remember about Microsoft. They have NEVER EVER written a new version of any of their OS's that WASN'T compatible with the previous version; EVER.
If they decided to do that with WM7, they would be shooting themselves in the foot, big time.
Also, remember. The ONLY people that have seen or know ANYTHING about WM7, are under a strict NDA. If this guy IS one of those, MS would already have slapped him with a lawsuit for breaking it by now.
Android has pretty much taken over the XDA-Portal
Everyday there are more and more posts about users who switched over from winmo to android.
I am planing on buying WP7 device, but my fear is I'll be one of few to do so, and as a result of this there will be little development going on for the device. I am a pretty die-hard windows fan so I hope they regain some popularity with WP7.
What does everyone think?
One thing will decide, microsoft wp7 ads.
sent from my x10i that is banging for a 2.1 upgrade. ...
WM continues
I wouldn´t worry for that, despite Android is now "in fashion" as soon as WP7 arrives will happen the same
I am also looking forward WP7 I´m sure it will be a funny one too
davidstre said:
Android has pretty much taken over the XDA-Portal
Everyday there are more and more posts about users who switched over from winmo to android.
I am planing on buying WP7 device, but my fear is I'll be one of few to do so, and as a result of this there will be little development going on for the device. I am a pretty die-hard windows fan so I hope they regain some popularity with WP7.
What does everyone think?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dont worry if your WP7 device is lacking in WP development, Im sure there will be several ways and ROMs to run Android on it
haha, i dont want to run android on it!!!!!!!
dont get me wrong, its a great os, but i am a much bigger fan of windows
Can someone explain to me the "greatness" of WinMo? From what I've seen of it, it's terrible :<.
Then again, I've only seen 1 WinMo Phone and it was a weird one.
SkelmecH said:
Can someone explain to me the "greatness" of WinMo? From what I've seen of it, it's terrible :<.
Then again, I've only seen 1 WinMo Phone and it was a weird one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
WM is great because of the amount of free software available for it and the openness of the OS. Yes many times the carriers do a lousy job of programming their version of the phone software but thats where the custom roms come in. Remeber iOS and Android are babies in the world of phone software. So most of the worst specs for an android phone are really good for WM. That being said take about any WM phone and hack it with a good stable custom rom and you will be amazed. I've seen many of hte new android phones and I can say I 'm not that impressed. I think its a great phone for people who aren't phone smart. Thats not saying you can't root it and do really cool things with it. But out of the box its pretty locked down. Unfortunately WP7 is going the way of android and iOS because of their success putting smart phones in normal non techies hands. But for the true techie WM is where its at. Hoped that helped. I fear owning my HD2 for years because all the new phones will be locked down like iphone.
hopefully this eases your concerns about lockdown
one of my great friends recevied their developers wp7 device just the other day and theyve already hacked deep into it, done a plethora of customizations and so on. with wp7 i think we will see more apps and such since they say it has lots of appeal to developers. weve got xda, so we hopefully will never have to face a locked down windows phone haha
i agree, if you are very phone smart, and want to get your phone the exact way you like it windows is where its at. they get a bad rep in the smartphone world only because there is a pretty big learning curve before you can truly dig into the device.
davidstre said:
dont get me wrong, its a great os, but i am a much bigger fan of windows
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here
Despite I´m testing droid on my Leo
davidstre said:
hopefully this eases your concerns about lockdown
one of my great friends recevied their developers wp7 device just the other day and theyve already hacked deep into it, done a plethora of customizations and so on. with wp7 i think we will see more apps and such since they say it has lots of appeal to developers. weve got xda, so we hopefully will never have to face a locked down windows phone haha
i agree, if you are very phone smart, and want to get your phone the exact way you like it windows is where its at. they get a bad rep in the smartphone world only because there is a pretty big learning curve before you can truly dig into the device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've been seeing alot about this on other sites. Devs seem to want the os cause it's market is not filled to the brims so thier apps get lost. First ones out the gate wins kinda thing. I'm eager to see what happens, though I plan on replacing my two raph's with a captivate. I'm really not digging the multitasking in wp7.
The rumored specs for the HD3 has me very interested in WP7. 4.5" 1280x800 screen, 1.5ghz dual core, 1gb ram, 32gb mem. Depends on the Apps too. I really like the Android market more so than what WinMo has offered. I'm a diehard WinMo user, but after running Android on my HD2.... I've found myself using WinMo less and less and less.
edit: Does WP7 even allow 1280x800 screen res? hmm.
If you use Outlook (I do for both business and personal), the sync between PC and device using ActiveSync/WMDC is (although far from perfect) essential. Doing sync between Android devices and Outlook appears to require either 3rd party apps of variable reliability/ease and/or use of Google mail and calendar. If you're paranoid about your data (like me) and don 't want to use someone else to store it, that make WinMo about the only option. So I think the corporates will keep WinMo alive and XDA-dev will keep it interesting!
gio300zx said:
If you use Outlook (I do for both business and personal), the sync between PC and device using ActiveSync/WMDC is (although far from perfect) essential. Doing sync between Android devices and Outlook appears to require either 3rd party apps of variable reliability/ease and/or use of Google mail and calendar. If you're paranoid about your data (like me) and don 't want to use someone else to store it, that make WinMo about the only option. So I think the corporates will keep WinMo alive and XDA-dev will keep it interesting!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Amen and Halleluiah!
maxpower097 said:
WM is great because of the amount of free software available for it and the openness of the OS. Yes many times the carriers do a lousy job of programming their version of the phone software but thats where the custom roms come in. Remeber iOS and Android are babies in the world of phone software. So most of the worst specs for an android phone are really good for WM. That being said take about any WM phone and hack it with a good stable custom rom and you will be amazed. I've seen many of hte new android phones and I can say I 'm not that impressed. I think its a great phone for people who aren't phone smart. Thats not saying you can't root it and do really cool things with it. But out of the box its pretty locked down. Unfortunately WP7 is going the way of android and iOS because of their success putting smart phones in normal non techies hands. But for the true techie WM is where its at. Hoped that helped. I fear owning my HD2 for years because all the new phones will be locked down like iphone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dunno, Android, even un-rooted seems pretty Open, i never had a problem with it being "Locked Down"
Could be interesting stuff between the release of Android 3.0 and WM7...
boborone said:
I've been seeing alot about this on other sites. Devs seem to want the os cause it's market is not filled to the brims so thier apps get lost. First ones out the gate wins kinda thing. I'm eager to see what happens, though I plan on replacing my two raph's with a captivate. I'm really not digging the multitasking in wp7.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
its important for everyone to know these 3 thing:
-WP7 will be sending ota updates to the phone directely from microsoft. these updates will improve performance in some cases, and add features in other cases. microsofts goal is to bypass the carrier and avoid all of the bs that comes with carriers.
- keeping this in mind, microsoft has two major updates scheduled ALREADY for release within the the first few months of the phones release. one update is the addition of copy and paste, the other is suppose to have something to do with multi tasking
-they intentionally left copy and paste out of launch so they could distribute it in an ota update.
the multitasking issue isnt a bad thing actually. you can run as many native apps as you want at the same time, you just cant run multiple third party apps at the same time. HOWEVER, lets say i am running a third party app (app1) then lets say i launch a second third party app (app2) app1's state will be saved and placed in the background on "pause" if you will, while app2 runs. if i relaunch app1 its last known state will be restored and app2 will go into pause.
Im using 3GS right now and will either upgrade to a WP or IP4/5, I am sick of Android feeling like its still in a beta stage and freezing, closing apps, lagging no matter what phone. Anyway back when I used the focus the UI was amazing! But it was missing features...IOS is great! Time for some new features though imo, has WP7 been upgraded to more features? And how long will those updates last for the current WP's? What in your opinion is the best WP? And ultimatly what do you think is better? Hopefully Apple announces what IOS5 will be like. I really like WP7 but it felt like it needed time to get more features and some Apps were not optimized properly(ebay) but wow! That os is like butter! If it keeps getting features I may have to go WP! Especially if IOS5 is the same old, But for now I guess I gotta stay IOS.
maybe you should wait until fall or september,then both iphone 4s and major updates for WP7 are released,that time you can make a better comparison.which phone to buy...
The Fall Update to WP is a pretty big one, and new hardware will come out with it so I'd wait. The OS as it is, is to me the best designed out there, and the features people have been aching for are almost all coming with Mango (the fall OS update). Its going to be pretty nice, but ultimately up to you what you like most.
you've already pointed out that ios is complete and mature, try a friends phone around christmas and see if wp7 updates are all they're claimed to be...
the iPhone/iOS really is matured. You know where the saying comes from "There is an app for that".
I am still missing a lot of apps I was using on the iPhone, which are not (yet) available for WP7. But I really like the look of feel of WP7.
Wait for Mango if you like simplified device working more or less without any trouble
and you don't miss some basics. The UI is consistent and very easy.
For more sophisticated and better equipped device look somwhere else.
doministry said:
Wait for Mango if you like simplified device working more or less without any trouble
and you don't miss some basics. The UI is consistent and very easy.
For more sophisticated and better equipped device look somwhere else.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
IMO the UI on Wp7 blows iOS out of the water. It's simple yet still highly functional. I keep making my older and less technical users go to WP7 devices. They all seem to love it and I see them on their phones all the time - I'm sure their productivity is tanking lol.
Ignorance is Bliss, as they say.
But I'd wait until Mango and IP5 is our and make a more informed decision.
Right now WP7 can't hold a candle to iOS, but the update will be big. Unfortunately it's months off so you'll have to use a phone that has 30+% less functionality than your 3GS and many showstoppers (and lack of Apps) if you upgrade NOW.
I'd wait.
Wait for iPhone4S/5 and WP7 Mango update, and then decide. You might look into Samsung Galaxy SII as well, it's very fast. Maybe more device coming out with Dualcore/Quadcore that improves Android. WP7 is still in beta stage imho.
I've been using wp7 since October when I replaced my 3gs, and I've missed nothing so far.and that's been very honest, the thing is all I use to use on the iPhone was Facebook eBay satnav n a few more apps so the 300k appstore didn't matter to me. You've gotta think about the features and apps u need. Upgrading to wp7 guarantee u mango update regardless of the handset you choose.
Wp7 Focus
wp7 for sure, the metro UI is amazing.
I just bought a WP& phone, will post what i think of it, just hope the app market kicks off and MS add more functionality and that it becomes moddable
opti7 said:
I just bought a WP& phone, will post what i think of it, just hope the app market kicks off and MS add more functionality and that it becomes moddable
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Functionality is more than coming:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084161
Marketplace is already pretty good considering dev's cant create certain apps yet (Mango SDK will have all the 1500+ API's available, many of which will be used to create these lacking apps).
If you are looking for heavy modification, it may not be the platform for you, but people will definitely be modding it. Just not the extent WM & Android users are probably used to.
I went with the iPhone4, Im still gonna wait and see how WP7 goes and see what Apple does with IOS5, then I can make my Dec with what I want, but Ive heard from a lot of news sources that WP7 is doing pretty bad in sales and that its really not catching on at all, hopefully it dosnt go the way of the Kin phones...
As some have already said, I would probably wait for the Mango update and iPhone 5 before making the decision. I got a WP7 and I really enjoy it, but I think to make a fair choice, you should wait to pick between the two.
solidkevin said:
I went with the iPhone4, Im still gonna wait and see how WP7 goes and see what Apple does with IOS5, then I can make my Dec with what I want, but Ive heard from a lot of news sources that WP7 is doing pretty bad in sales and that its really not catching on at all, hopefully it dosnt go the way of the Kin phones...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually sales of wp7 from start till now are better then sales of iphone when it came out for same amount of time + soon nokia will arrive with their wp7 phones and wp7 is gonna blow the market
eXtremeLT said:
Actually sales of wp7 from start till now are better then sales of iphone when it came out for same amount of time + soon nokia will arrive with their wp7 phones and wp7 is gonna blow the market
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nokia phones in 2012 which is dumb imo, why not get it rolling out as quickly as possible?
solidkevin said:
Nokia phones in 2012 which is dumb imo, why not get it rolling out as quickly as possible?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They are doing it as quickly as possible. Its a major change at Nokia, it doesn't happen overnight. Nokia is planning for a late 2011 release of their first phone(s), and they are planning a whopping 12 devices (rumored so far) in 2012 running wp7 (including a dual core N8 version with a 12MP high optics camera). They will be using both qualcomm chips and SE dual core chips according to forbes.
http://blogs.forbes.com/elizabethwo...bes.com: Technology News)&utm_content=Twitter
There will also be some pretty nice second gen phones from Samsung, HTC, LG ect so people should have quite a few nice ones to choose from.
dtboos said:
They are doing it as quickly as possible. Its a major change at Nokia, it doesn't happen overnight. Nokia is planning for a late 2011 release of their first phone(s), and they are planning a whopping 12 devices (rumored so far) in 2012 running wp7 (including a dual core N8 version with a 12MP high optics camera). They will be using both qualcomm chips and SE dual core chips according to forbes.
http://blogs.forbes.com/elizabethwo...bes.com: Technology News)&utm_content=Twitter
There will also be some pretty nice second gen phones from Samsung, HTC, LG ect so people should have quite a few nice ones to choose from.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If the OS is up to par with IOS in terms of features and Apps by the time Nokias phone comes, thats my next phone, Nokia=Fantastic hardware+Camera, Crap Symbian...
Hi all,
here's a question I've been pondering for a few weeks, and I'd like to hear your opinions:
Should I get a Nokia N9, a Lumia 800 - or a Samsung Galaxy S II?
Now I'm aware that we're talking about 3 entirely different concepts here. I'm aware that Meego is having a near-death experience, that WinPhone maybe "isn't there yet" and I know about the pros and cons of Android too.
I don't need the thousands of apps in the Android Market (uh, Google Play). What I need on a daily basis is strong, 100% reliable Outlook/Exchange support, and SMS/MMS. The rest is optional (though I wouldn't mind a reasonable SatNav).
So the choice is probably more a question of philosophy.
I admire the hardware of the N9. I like its "always on" screensaver clock and the minimalist UI. WinPhone on the Lumia 800 would mean compromising on design in exchange for a wider app ecosystem and long-term support.
The SGSII, to my mind at least, is much less elegant, and Android... I'm not sure I like it. True, it would offer the greatest flexiblility, but tbh the UI in ICS is getting on my nerve.
Ah, decisions ...
Any suggestions on the "philosophies" point much apprreciated!
(just let me say once more that I'm fully aware of the specs - so no need for additional info there. Just let me know what you think, or what you'd do)
Ta!
N.
I would go Nokia Lumia 900. Have an android and hate the fact that I am at the mercy of carriers to get updates to the OS. Most apps are useless in the market I have 50 installed but use only 5-6 for anything. W7P has a beautiful functional interface (gifted it to my sister) and helps u get stuff done rather than making u waste time with complications.
Planning to go W7P route soon as the contract ends.
Look up its review on zdnet for business users
Samsung galaxy s2 is best among your list.N9 hardware is k..but think about os.that's running on meego and development on that phone is stopped.lumia is good phone running on w7 but the problem with that phone is the applications are very less for windows but i admire the nokia's hardware..
Take the sg2.it is the best performance phone in Android and having lot of devolopes in that you can check in xda..in my opinion it will be the best phone for you...
Xperian using xda app
Hi all,
many thanks for your thoughts!
Really can't decide atm. Guess I'll wait another month or so (for prices to drop) and then just order all three of them and see which suits me best. Will keep you posted!
Nightcookie said:
Hi all,
many thanks for your thoughts!
Really can't decide atm. Guess I'll wait another month or so (for prices to drop) and then just order all three of them and see which suits me best. Will keep you posted!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want extreme hackability/versatility go the N9, followed closely by the SGSII.*
If the N9's not officially available in your country, I'd say the SGSII "just" edges it out.
If you want something that "just works" & is always stable/snappy but quite dull (I don't mean UI-wise) get the 800.
As for outlook/exchange support, on N9 it's pretty solid (WP7x would be better I imagine, still waiting for my L800**)
There's several very insightful threads you need to read at talk.maemo.org to get the full picture.
Have a search & if you still need some pointers to specific ones I may be able to dig-them-up later.
SatNav is excellent on the N9....
At this point it's actually slightly more feature-packed than the Lumia phones.
Although 6mth+ from now that probably won't be the case w/ND 3.0 etc.
But it will still remain very competent well into the future.
SMS/MMS support works well too, nicely integrated into the contacts system etc.
I personally think the L800 is slightly better overall than the 900.
Sure there's no FFC, it doesn't have LTE, & no CAT14 HSDPA.
But that's it really, the 900's screen isn't really hugely better, it really depends on the use.
In fact, in RWT's for most use cases, I would personally pick the L800's higher PPI screen.
If you're doing lots of reading of small text (esp. for certain text/background color combos).
That's really the only area the 900 will outshine the 800 screen-wise.
The L800's design/aesthetic & build quality is def. slightly better (& the N9's even better).
Support is not as big an issue for the N9 as some make it out to be
It's been way above industry standard for the past 6mth & will remain at standard (at least) for at least another 6.
Beyond that there'll still be regular minor updates for perf/security/stability/usability (Nokia does it like no other) till 2015.
Plus there's the amazing Maemo community that's always rallied behind Nokia Linux-based devices over the yrs.
I've also not found that I'm missing any apps except for games, if you're a heavy gamer you may get bored.
But there's also some amazing emulation software that you just can't get on WP or even stock Android.
Some of the apps are truly unique, simply because of the lower-level access/permission they have.
I'm not subscribed to this thread (busy), so any further -more specific- questions feel free to PM me.
*but dude, you may as well wait for the SGSIII, it'll be announced very soon!
**I've played a fair bit with relatives/friends WP's, & read a truck-load about it.
i have a galaxy nexus now, the reason i have it is because i dropped and smashed my focus s a few months back. i liked my focus s, however, windows phone at the time, although an excellent platform, seemed a little un-polished, or not quite done yet.
have any of the updates since february brought actual turn by turn (the stock navi app that is, not nokia maps)?
have any of the current devices been confirmed to getting the wp8 update?
are there any google talk apps that work? octrotalk, im+ and gchat never seemed to work for me.
i was thinking of seeing if anyone wanted to trade a lumia 900 for my gnex, so the lumia 900 is what i would be getting.
"Actual" turn-by-turn where the OS warns you as you approach a turn (which is the most glaring lack in the current implementation) is apparently slated for WP8. There's absolutely no technical reason it couldn't be backported, but then, there's no technical reason for the current design either. It's apparently due to a licensing fiasco regarding the use of the map data.
No, in fact everything that I've heard has said that current devices will not get WP8 at all. 7.8 has been announced, but we know very little about it so far except that it has the WP8 Start screen. There's always a chance of WP7.9 update next year too, but don't count on it.
IM+ works just fine for me on GTalk. It's a bit slower starting up than might be nice, but it certainly works just fine. If it didn't work for you, I can't really help you out here without knowing more.
GoodDayToDie said:
"Actual" turn-by-turn where the OS warns you as you approach a turn (which is the most glaring lack in the current implementation) is apparently slated for WP8. There's absolutely no technical reason it couldn't be backported, but then, there's no technical reason for the current design either. It's apparently due to a licensing fiasco regarding the use of the map data.
No, in fact everything that I've heard has said that current devices will not get WP8 at all. 7.8 has been announced, but we know very little about it so far except that it has the WP8 Start screen. There's always a chance of WP7.9 update next year too, but don't count on it.
IM+ works just fine for me on GTalk. It's a bit slower starting up than might be nice, but it certainly works just fine. If it didn't work for you, I can't really help you out here without knowing more.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i missed a lot of messages with im+/octro/gchat
i'll hold off on seeing how the wp8 devices look. my wifes focus should be here today. going to get nokia drive on it for her.