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$279 viewsonic g tablet is back woot deal

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I bought one on Friday. Still hasn't shipped :-(
Me and Woot have a love/hate relationship.

I don't get it. There is no design flaw. Why are they trying to dump this product? If they are really trying to dump this product for a newer model, the newer model better be able to sing and dance.

goodintentions said:
I don't get it. There is no design flaw. Why are they trying to dump this product? If they are really trying to dump this product for a newer model, the newer model better be able to sing and dance.
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They are not dumping it, its just being priced competitively given the availability $400 IPS tegra 2, HC Asus Transformer.
Any way amazon's deal (via woot) was way better given it was $280 to your door step (no taxes or shipping fees).

aasoror said:
They are not dumping it, its just being priced competitively given the availability $400 IPS tegra 2, HC Asus Transformer.
Any way amazon's deal (via woot) was way better given it was $280 to your door step (no taxes or shipping fees).
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Priced better? You're saying they are preemptively striking all the other tegra 2's that are coming out this/next month?

goodintentions said:
I don't get it. There is no design flaw
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Well, I can think of one giant design flaw that marred an otherwise great tablet (hey, let's take the most important part of the tablet and make it really, really, really crappy!). I would not be surprised to see this sucker at $200 new within the next couple of months with the onslaught of HC tablets hitting the market at sub-$500 prices.

dfin13 said:
Well, I can think of one giant design flaw that marred an otherwise great tablet (hey, let's take the most important part of the tablet and make it really, really, really crappy!). I would not be surprised to see this sucker at $200 new within the next couple of months with the onslaught of HC tablets hitting the market at sub-$500 prices.
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You're talking about the screen? I've had my gtab for a couple months now. Been taking it everywhere with me. In fact, myself and a couple others from the lab attended a meeting to share our designs and experiments at a meeting. I whipped out the gtab and began sharing our autocad drawings and calculations. People were impressed. A few asked intently about my tablet.
The point is I've had no problem at all with the screen. I don't understand why people are crying bloody murder about this aspect of it. May be because you guys are spoiled?
To me, this is not a design flaw. It's not even a weakness. It just is. It makes the gtab different.

I have the Asus now, and I guess you just don't know what you're missing until you've seen a superior screen in the flesh. My jaw literally dropped when I turned it on. Straight-on, the gTab has a great screen, but the viewing angles are terrible, and I consider that a design flaw, as in they went really cheap with the screen. The Acer A500 does not have an IPS screen, yet its viewing angles are almost comparable to the Transformer, so it is possible. Whoever manufactured the gTab just cut corners on the most crucial part of a tablet.
If you're happy with yours, that's great, but that screen ran me off, and I can't recommend it to anyone when they can (eventually) have a Transformer for about $100 more.
Kinda wish I'd kept mine another week so I could post the difference so you could see for yourself, but I don't suppose it matters

goodintentions said:
You're talking about the screen? I've had my gtab for a couple months now. Been taking it everywhere with me. In fact, myself and a couple others from the lab attended a meeting to share our designs and experiments at a meeting. I whipped out the gtab and began sharing our autocad drawings and calculations. People were impressed. A few asked intently about my tablet.
The point is I've had no problem at all with the screen. I don't understand why people are crying bloody murder about this aspect of it. May be because you guys are spoiled?
To me, this is not a design flaw. It's not even a weakness. It just is. It makes the gtab different.
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I am looking at buying this tablet, what is everyone saying about the screen?

dfin13 said:
I have the Asus now, and I guess you just don't know what you're missing until you've seen a superior screen in the flesh. My jaw literally dropped when I turned it on. Straight-on, the gTab has a great screen, but the viewing angles are terrible, and I consider that a design flaw, as in they went really cheap with the screen. The Acer A500 does not have an IPS screen, yet its viewing angles are almost comparable to the Transformer, so it is possible. Whoever manufactured the gTab just cut corners on the most crucial part of a tablet.
If you're happy with yours, that's great, but that screen ran me off, and I can't recommend it to anyone when they can (eventually) have a Transformer for about $100 more.
Kinda wish I'd kept mine another week so I could post the difference so you could see for yourself, but I don't suppose it matters
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I have an iPad2, the gTablet, an Acer netbook, a Dell laptop, and a 2010 MacBookPro.
The gTablet uses the exact same LCD as the acer Netbook. You can tell the screen is designed for a slightly off center nearly dead on viewing angle, and if you hold it so, it's quite fine.
You won't be able to see much at more than 10-15 degrees off center left/right (in landscape) or up/down (portrait)
It is what it is. It's not an iPad. It's not the $120 more Asus. It's the cheapest Tegra2 with great modding support here at xda you can buy. I wouldn't spend more than $280 on it, but for $280 its great.

goodintentions said:
Priced better? You're saying they are preemptively striking all the other tegra 2's that are coming out this/next month?
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There is nothing preemptive about it, the Asus transformer is already out there (NA release) and for even longer in EU, and the $399 NA price was already officially announced more than a month ago.
schettj said:
I wouldn't spend more than $280 on it,
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Thats the whole point, and I guess retailers do clearly see that.

PeteSeiler2010 said:
I am looking at buying this tablet, what is everyone saying about the screen?
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If you look at it straight-on, it is a great screen. If you look at it few degrees left or right, it loses quality but is still viewable. A few more degrees, and things become mushy. Tilt it slightly vertically and that's where the frustration really begins -- imagine those psychedelic videos where colors transform and turn negative. Like the post above said, it's a pure netbook screen and is meant to be viewed as you would with a netbook. Sticking it in a tablet was a cost-cutting shortcut.
Now, if you buy a case that props it up, it helps quite a bit. I'm not dogging the gTab really, it's a great tab that just needs to come down in price a little more in light of the the Transformer's release. If you're going to spend $280+ on a tablet, I'd advise you to spring for the extra $120 that will get you a Transformer.

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If you're happy with yours, that's great, but that screen ran me off, and I can't recommend it to anyone when they can (eventually) have a Transformer for about $100 more.
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Don't get me wrong. Whenever someone asks me about my gtab, I tell them it's not for them and recommend an ipad or ipad 2. I do that with pretty much everything nowadays. When people ask me I recommend them the most mainstream thing possible.

Well I don't feel so bad for directing a coworker to get an iPad 2 today She saw my Transformer and said she was looking at iPads, but she liked the widgets of Android (she has an Evo). I told her to just get an iPad, you pick it up and it's a vessel for apps, nothing more, and knowing her, I thought that was best.
But after playing with the Transformer, she's torn. So I guess that's a plus for HC, it's not as techie as I thought.

Bought one from Woot on 4/25, got it on 4/29
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dfin13 said:
Well I don't feel so bad for directing a coworker to get an iPad 2 today She saw my Transformer and said she was looking at iPads, but she liked the widgets of Android (she has an Evo). I told her to just get an iPad, you pick it up and it's a vessel for apps, nothing more, and knowing her, I thought that was best.
But after playing with the Transformer, she's torn. So I guess that's a plus for HC, it's not as techie as I thought.
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I direct people to the ipad 2 unapologetically. I'm sick of people complaining about nothing. Let apple deal with those spoiled brats.

Well I found someone who bought it and I guess they were scared to try to do any custom ROM stuff and they sold it to me for $190. I think i got a deal, I am currently reading up on it before I try anything though. I have been using Android for well over a year now, I have a captivate and I always flash the newest ROM's that come out for it. I am hoping the G Tablet is about as easy as my captivate to mod. Anyone have a favorite ROM for the G Tab, I am looking at playing Pocket Legends and games like that.

PeteSeiler2010 said:
I am hoping the G Tablet is about as easy as my captivate to mod.
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You don't need to hope. Everything about the gtab is unlocked. It is currently the most hackable device out there.
Anyone have a favorite ROM for the G Tab, I am looking at playing Pocket Legends and games like that.
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I've used them all. The one that seems to run the smoothest and fastest is the calkulin+clemsyn combo. I use the overclocked version 5 one.
That said, you really should try them all out one at a time. Again, it takes so little effort to flash a rom. Actually, it takes about 2 minutes for each rom to flash. Try each rom for a week and see how you like them.
Some people like vegan ginger because it's the latest and greatest. I personally like the fastest and most stable. Your choice.

Thank you very much for the information, i can't wait to dive in!

goodintentions said:
You don't need to hope. Everything about the gtab is unlocked. It is currently the most hackable device out there.
I've used them all. The one that seems to run the smoothest and fastest is the calkulin+clemsyn combo. I use the overclocked version 5 one.
That said, you really should try them all out one at a time. Again, it takes so little effort to flash a rom. Actually, it takes about 2 minutes for each rom to flash. Try each rom for a week and see how you like them.
Some people like vegan ginger because it's the latest and greatest. I personally like the fastest and most stable. Your choice.
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I currently have tNt 4.4 and I like it a lot. If/when I flash another rom, would I have to load all my Apps again? I have titanium backup but even then it would take a while to load them all. That might discourage me from trying ALL the roms out

[Q] Xoom killer?

Almost every tablet introduced to marked is instantly named (by sensationalistic press) 'iPad killer', which yet has to be seen. But reading posts around here looks like Transformer is going to be a real killer of his Android brother Xoom. Rumors are saying Xoom sales are not so great, but if everybody who promised on this forum returns his Xoom sales could become even negative.

Xoom is decent, but there are only a few ways it can survive and number one is drop the price. It can't be $150 more than the Acer it's right next to at Best Buy.
Sure, it has more memory but a lot of people just plan on adding a memory card later. The other thing that can help it is if the Transformer continues to have supply issues. If the Transformer is next to the Xoom at Best Buy with an IPS screen for $200 cheaper?
The Xoom will collect dust.

Motorola was the Xoom killer The pricing was a debacle.

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Motorola was the Xoom killer The pricing was a debacle.
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Nice!
Is it true that the Xoom was supposed to be the flagship Honeycomb device? If so, Google should have waited and thrown its weight behind the Transformer.
I'm an Apple fanboy, and I've been using the Transformer way more than my iPad 2. The higher resolution is awesome, the browser is very great, I like I can load apps from anywhere, it has a memory card slot....
(Now if they can just release an update to make my .mp4 720p files not so choppy.... :-( Good thing unless I'm traveling I don't really watch much on tablets, just surf on the couch pretty much.)

bleclair said:
Xoom is decent, but there are only a few ways it can survive and number one is drop the price. It can't be $150 more than the Acer it's right next to at Best Buy.
Sure, it has more memory but a lot of people just plan on adding a memory card later. The other thing that can help it is if the Transformer continues to have supply issues. If the Transformer is next to the Xoom at Best Buy with an IPS screen for $200 cheaper?
The Xoom will collect dust.
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This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I don't think any tablet has seriously been called an "iPad killer" other than maybe in tongue in cheek or wishful thinking. iPad is just so far ahead of everything right now. Will be a long while before Android can seriously lure in average non-techie customers in Apple like numbers.
As for a Xoom killer. I think that is more Motorola's work than ASUS. It was stupid to release only a 3G model first and waiting months to release a wifi model.
I think not releasing a 16GB model was a bad decision (there are rumors there might be one coming).
Selling the 3G tablet and then telling the customers they'll have to mail it in to get the 4G upgrade isn't good.
Still no working micro SD slot, what is going on with that?
And for the price, I think not using an IPS display was a bad decision too.

From what I can see, Google hasn't thrown their weight behind ANY Honeycomb tablet yet, nor Honeycomb itself. I'm not sure what they're doing, really--the Market remains a mess in terms of finding Honeycomb- or tablet-specific apps, and I'd think we'd have had a Honeycomb update already resolving some of the bugs and performance issues we're seeing.
That said, having owned a Xoom and now a Transformer, I honestly can't see how Motorola expects to make the Xoom a success. I was a fan of the Xoom at first, even defending the pricing given that it was the first Honeycomb tablet and offered theoretically more functionality than an iPad.
Since then, however, Motorola has only provided a single update offering less value than Asus has provided in less than half the time (and Asus seems to be working hard to fix whatever caused the bricking issue and have certainly communicated more effectively). They haven't enabled the SD card slot, something both Acer and Asus have managed to do. And the biggest draw, 4G capability, is nowhere to be seen.
Honestly, I can't think of a single reason to justify getting the Xoom over the Asus (or Acer, for that matter), even if they were priced the same. Not having a 16GB version at $499, at worst, against the Acer 16GB at $459 and Transformer 16GB at $399, and the Xoom is, well, doomed. Put them on a shelf all together, and the Transformer will kill everyone else. If shipped in quantity and stocked correctly (i.e., side-by-side with the iPad 2 at $499), the Transformer could even put a small dent in Apple's market share.
Throw in the keyboard dock, and the Transformer could dominate the next few months. Not sure what Motorola can do to save the Xoom...

wynand32 said:
From what I can see, Google hasn't thrown their weight behind ANY Honeycomb tablet yet, nor Honeycomb itself. I'm not sure what they're doing, really--the Market remains a mess in terms of finding Honeycomb- or tablet-specific apps, and I'd think we'd have had a Honeycomb update already resolving some of the bugs and performance issues we're seeing.
That said, having owned a Xoom and now a Transformer, I honestly can't see how Motorola expects to make the Xoom a success. I was a fan of the Xoom at first, even defending the pricing given that it was the first Honeycomb tablet and offered theoretically more functionality than an iPad.
Since then, however, Motorola has only provided a single update offering less value than Asus has provided in less than half the time (and Asus seems to be working hard to fix whatever caused the bricking issue and have certainly communicated more effectively). They haven't enabled the SD card slot, something both Acer and Asus have managed to do. And the biggest draw, 4G capability, is nowhere to be seen.
Honestly, I can't think of a single reason to justify getting the Xoom over the Asus (or Acer, for that matter), even if they were priced the same. Not having a 16GB version at $499, at worst, against the Acer 16GB at $459 and Transformer 16GB at $399, and the Xoom is, well, doomed. Put them on a shelf all together, and the Transformer will kill everyone else. If shipped in quantity and stocked correctly (i.e., side-by-side with the iPad 2 at $499), the Transformer could even put a small dent in Apple's market share.
Throw in the keyboard dock, and the Transformer could dominate the next few months. Not sure what Motorola can do to save the Xoom...
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Couldn't agree with you more.

wynand32 said:
Not sure what Motorola can do to save the Xoom...
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They could make it a freebie in a cereal packet. I can picture the future packaging design on the box now, "Re-use your box: Fold along this line to turn it into a case for your Xoom". Although there would probably be some muppet who would end up trying to sue them after choking on it.

stuntdouble said:
They could make it a freebie in a cereal packet. I can picture the future packaging design on the box now, "Re-use your box: Fold along this line to turn it into a case for your Xoom". Although there would probably be some muppet who would end up trying to sue them after choking on it.
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ahahhahaha lol
seriously, where I live.....motorola practically has no marketing/ads about the xoom
and with the high price...I don't know anybody that would buy a xoom....they're all buying the acer a500 tablet or the transformer if they can find stock for it

bleclair said:
Nice!
Is it true that the Xoom was supposed to be the flagship Honeycomb device? If so, Google should have waited and thrown its weight behind the Transformer.
I'm an Apple fanboy, and I've been using the Transformer way more than my iPad 2. The higher resolution is awesome, the browser is very great, I like I can load apps from anywhere, it has a memory card slot....
(Now if they can just release an update to make my .mp4 720p files not so choppy.... :-( Good thing unless I'm traveling I don't really watch much on tablets, just surf on the couch pretty much.)
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get handbrake and re-encode your files with the handbrake preset from here on the forums, they will play flawlessly.

dfin13 said:
Motorola was the Xoom killer The pricing was a debacle.
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Personally what killed the Xoom was how long it took to be available in Ireland. Very annoying to want to buy something and it not being available despite all the stories about how poor the sales were in the US. Price and lack of apps probably killed it for other people. Motorola should have made it available to developers world wide straight away but I guess that is too much to hope for when Google didn't even bother to have the Nexus One available in most countries.

We will get our Honeycomb update during Google I/O.

vlasac said:
Rumors are saying Xoom sales are not so great
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Xoom sales are zero, Fact! Motorola has downgraded it's own economic forecast because of such poor sales.
I can see the same thing happening with HTC, if they don't pull their head out of their bottom with Flyer pricing

I'm swapping them if only to save $200.
Sent from my Xoom

checkbox111 said:
Xoom sales are zero, Fact! Motorola has downgraded it's own economic forecast because of such poor sales.
I can see the same thing happening with HTC, if they don't pull their head out of their bottom with Flyer pricing
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Yeah, it's like HTC priced it 6 months ago and they're sticking to that price, no matter what the market is telling them.
Funny, I would've trampled my granny to get to a 7" HTC tablet last year. Now, meh ...

dfin13 said:
Motorola was the Xoom killer The pricing was a debacle.
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Thank you, very well said. Xoom would have flown off the shelves if it wasnt for the $800 price tag. Moto got greedy.
...and I'm a Xoom owner.

atoy74 said:
Thank you, very well said. Xoom would have flown off the shelves if it wasnt for the $800 price tag. Moto got greedy.
...and I'm a Xoom owner.
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The xoom pricing isn't far off from apple ipad 2 pricing. The bigger mistake was not offering wifi only at launch and not offering a 16gb one at ipad's 16gb price.

donatom3 said:
The xoom pricing isn't far off from apple ipad 2 pricing. The bigger mistake was not offering wifi only at launch and not offering a 16gb one at ipad's 16gb price.
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I have a problem with Motorola thinking they should/could compare themselves to the Ipad pricing. Apple's top dogs here and you have to compete against them, not be more expensive.
Just think it was presumptuous of Moto. If Asus can get their supply issues in order that will prove true.

Reading this forum, I'm just wondering, what is Motorola doing with all that "open box" tablets people returning when swapping to Transformer or A500?

The new iPad sets new standards

This time it's a bit different.
While it can be argued the iPhone 4S has little more (if anything) than a SGSII, this new iPad really makes all other tablets look like pieces of wood. The CPU might still be a dual core, but honestly who cares if the graphic card is quad core, twice as powerful as the yet-to-be-launched Tegra 3?
I think that, this time, the Android (and Windows) users will have to sit and wait. I don't know when we'll see a 10" tablet with a 2048 x 1536 display. Not to talk of the graphic card.
I'm just talking of hardware specs here, of course... I am a proud Androider, I don't want to start the same OS war. At all. What I'd like to hear is:
When will we be seeing something like this on our tablets?

UltimateGoblin said:
This time it's a bit different.
While it can be argued the iPhone 4S has little more (if anything) than a SGSII, this new iPad really makes all other tablets look like pieces of wood. The CPU might still be a dual core, but honestly who cares if the graphic card is quad core, twice as powerful as the yet-to-be-launched Tegra 3?
I think that, this time, the Android (and Windows) users will have to sit and wait. I don't know when we'll see a 10" tablet with a 2048 x 1536 display. Not to talk of the graphic card.
I'm just talking of hardware specs here, of course... I am a proud Androider, I don't want to start the same OS war. At all. What I'd like to hear is:
When will we be seeing something like this on our tablets?
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Huh?? What the heck are you smoking? "Yet to be lunched" Tegra 3? It's been out for a while. Also, how is the apple GPU "twice as powerful" as the 5-core Tegra?
FYI, the Asus Transformer Prime TF700 has a 1920x1200 IPS display and the lovely Tegra. The screen is absolutely lovely, and the 3D games are to die for. Worldwide launch will be in June, but a few of us lucky guys who bought the TF201 (and thus are already enjoying Tegra 3 goodness) also get to play with the newest toys...

Sorry for not having checked if Tegra 3 had already come out before posting... I assure you I have never smoked anything in my life!
iPad's graphic card is twice more powerful than Tegra 3, according to what Tim Cook reported yesterday in the keynote. If it's true or not, we'll see, but the announcement is startling anyway. I know there are tablets with quite a nice display, but the resolution of the iPad is unprecedented for a tablet... That's impressive! I love it when competition reaches this levels

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Sorry for not having checked if Tegra 3 had already come out before posting... I assure you I have never smoked anything in my life!
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Good time to get started!
UltimateGoblin said:
iPad's graphic card is twice more powerful than Tegra 3, according to what Tim Cook reported yesterday in the keynote. If it's true or not, we'll see, but the announcement is startling anyway. I know there are tablets with quite a nice display, but the resolution of the iPad is unprecedented for a tablet... That's impressive! I love it when competition reaches this levels
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Well, Apple is well known for massive massive massive fluff (or blatant lies) in their presentations. In all likelihood they took one specific game/graphic app and specifically optimized the heck out of it, then tested it against a Tegra 3 system which ran an un-optimized game.
Yeah, the resolution is nice, but I can assure you the competition is not waiting.
The IPS panel on the TF701 is stunning. Perfect color rendition, viewing angles like mad, etc. Plus it's a wide display which is nicer for watching movies, and it's a lot lighter than the new iPad (which needs to lay off the Krispy Kremes)

The iPad as a device is great. It all comes down to do you like ios
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The iPad as a device is great. It all comes down to do you like ios
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Yup, I agree. Some people may say "android phone and iPad for best of both worlds".
Personally, I prefer android on both for easy synch, google cloud services, etc. It all depend on which ecosystem you prefer to be tied in to - some people may prefer iCloud, etc.

Any android tablet priced over $200 does not stand a chance against the iPad. Furthermore after W8 launches android will be relegated to junky KIRFs from ZTE and Pantech where it truly belongs.

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Any android tablet priced over $200 does not stand a chance against the iPad.
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I would not say that.
But it is true that now a new benchmark has been set. And I personally believe that this time, for the first time, the price that the iPad is selling at is justified by the impressing hardware. How many times have we said "I can find better at a cheaper price"? Now OEMs will have to struggle a little. Not only they will have to compete with iPad's hardware, but also with its price. Which, I repeat, now really seems something like... competitive.

alex2792 said:
Any android tablet priced over $200 does not stand a chance against the iPad. Furthermore after W8 launches android will be relegated to junky KIRFs from ZTE and Pantech where it truly belongs.
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Agee in part outside of the w8 thing which is a joke. Happy to see more options but I have yet to see a windows op system on a mobile device I could stomach

alex2792 said:
Any android tablet priced over $200 does not stand a chance against the iPad. Furthermore after W8 launches android will be relegated to junky KIRFs from ZTE and Pantech where it truly belongs.
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Lol?
I like the new ipad, but i just cant stand iOS and it lack of customization.
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The screen resolution is pretty good and I imagine the Android tablets will be 1080p capable this year. Thats not copying Apple, screen resolutions are always getting better over time. Most tablets have pretty poor screen densities when compared with phones. The Asus Transformer resolution of 1920x1200 sounds like a good one since it will fit 1920x1080 video fine with extra room for the ICS buttons below.

I am torn between getting the new iPad or waiting for W8 pads to arrive...
Any opinions?
I need it for school as well, so that's one point for W8 running normal Windows applications.

hype
I think there's a lot of hype with the W8 tablets, likely those will be a bit expensive if they come with a X86 cpu to take advantage of the existing windows aplications.
Yes, the ARM ones will be cheaper but it's like a developing for a new OS, Microsoft will have to start from scratch and the competition is already established.

Archector said:
I think there's a lot of hype with the W8 tablets, likely those will be a bit expensive if they come with a X86 cpu to take advantage of the existing windows aplications.
Yes, the ARM ones will be cheaper but it's like a developing for a new OS, Microsoft will have to start from scratch and the competition is already established.
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. Windows 8 might be a big tablet hit, it also might die out from the heavy competition... They might just be a bit too late.

juliuslucas said:
I am torn between getting the new iPad or waiting for W8 pads to arrive...
Any opinions?
I need it for school as well, so that's one point for W8 running normal Windows applications.
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Install Windows 8 on one of your computers and give it a go. For me, it was a giant disappointment.
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For me too, but when Windows 8 reaches tablets, we'll surely start to see a mixture between tablet apps and Windows applications. It WILL be expensive though. I think I'll get the iPad

I really think that the "new iPad" is great, but i dislike iOS, i think that iOS, android and "WindowsFail 8" on tablets need to be more productivity oriented. Today tablets are gimmick, big phones, with little extra usability over them, but if they want the tablets to replace PC they need somethiing more beside social apps and games.

telep said:
I really think that the "new iPad" is great, but i dislike iOS, i think that iOS, android and "WindowsFail 8" on tablets need to be more productivity oriented. Today tablets are gimmick, big phones, with little extra usability over them, but if they want the tablets to replace PC they need somethiing more beside social apps and games.
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Problem is when you start adding stuff like keyboards,mice and desktop OS-like features you may as well get an ultra portable laptop that does those things much better than a tablet.

telep said:
I really think that the "new iPad" is great, but i dislike iOS, i think that iOS, android and "WindowsFail 8" on tablets need to be more productivity oriented. Today tablets are gimmick, big phones, with little extra usability over them, but if they want the tablets to replace PC they need somethiing more beside social apps and games.
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I agree, but apps like OneNote and Google Docs on Android and iOS are slowly adding to the productivity-abilities of tablets and phones.
Tablets are mostly gimmics, but they sure are very cool ones?

I will let you all know, my company is giving us all iPads next month for work.

Asus infinity and not 10.1

I have both devices and would like to help people who have questions on the devices. So fire away.
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I have both devices and would like to help people who have questions on the devices. So fire away.
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That's great Well, I'm buying my first tablet and I've read many reviews and many comparisons between those 2 tablets, and I know almost everything about them. The only thing left is something that can't be written down or recorded Just out of those 2, which one is faster I know it seems like a general question but I'm talking about raw performance. As in, which one will open applications a lot faster and load them a lot faster. You know, browsers and so on.
I'd appreciate it, thanks

Im going to have to give the edge to the note. The combination of lower resolution and 2gigs of ram make it super fast. When i open an app on both devices at the same time i will say the note wins a majority of the time. When it comes to web browsing the note is a clear cut winner when scrolling through pages very little hangups. The infinity isnt far behind though and i am not a fanboy for either device i think they are both great but raw performance goes to the note.
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I spend a hour testing a Galaxy Note at a local store. Because my first TF700T was broken and I decided to test the Samsung to be sure that I pick the right one again.
Yes it's fast, but fast is not everything. Haptics, design and ergonomics goes pretty clear to ASUS.
That the ASUS is slower is just a matter of the Screen Resolution. Android is not optimized for this screen size now.
So if you have a Samsung device with the same stunning display you will see that it doesn't matters wich Company you choose if the OS isn't made for it.
Plastics against metal is a unfair war but ASUS feels a lot better to hold in hand. I don't understand why Samsung still uses this cheap plastics, ok they say it is for the wight but ASUS is lighter and thinner even in Metal Case..
Over all display res is ergonomics and ergonomics are pretty much the most important part in a held-in-hands device.
Samsung can't take any competition agains the TF700T in this point. Samsung put the same Resolution as they had on the first Galaxy Note to a double as big screen. Thats just a joke for a device calles it self highend.
Only points left for samsung, if you need it, is 3G and the stylus.
The Stylus is a pretty little toy, but at all I don't know where to use it in productivity.
So my choice again was clear, ASUS will become a lot faster with 4.1 and the screen is still amazing.

kabauterman said:
I spend a hour testing a Galaxy Note at a local store. Because my first TF700T was broken and I decided to test the Samsung to be sure that I pick the right one again.
Yes it's fast, but fast is not everything. Haptics, design and ergonomics goes pretty clear to ASUS.
That the ASUS is slower is just a matter of the Screen Resolution. Android is not optimized for this screen size now.
So if you have a Samsung device with the same stunning display you will see that it doesn't matters wich Company you choose if the OS isn't made for it.
Plastics against metal is a unfair war but ASUS feels a lot better to hold in hand. I don't understand why Samsung still uses this cheap plastics, ok they say it is for the wight but ASUS is lighter and thinner even in Metal Case..
Over all display res is ergonomics and ergonomics are pretty much the most important part in a held-in-hands device.
Samsung can't take any competition agains the TF700T in this point. Samsung put the same Resolution as they had on the first Galaxy Note to a double as big screen. Thats just a joke for a device calles it self highend.
Only points left for samsung, if you need it, is 3G and the stylus.
The Stylus is a pretty little toy, but at all I don't know where to use it in productivity.
So my choice again was clear, ASUS will become a lot faster with 4.1 and the screen is still amazing.
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This is the dumbest argument. First its not cheap plastic. Do some research.
Second the infinity problem is more then just screen resolution. Asus used cheap parts in the building. Thats why you have i/o issues.
Design and ergonomics is subjective. What's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.
And I have no clue what you're talking about with haptic. As far as I know it works fine on the Note. At least on mine.
The ONLY advantage you could quantitatively give Asus over Samsung is the screen resolution.
Aside from screen resolution, which ultimately each individual will have to decide which one he or she wants, both tablets have advantages over the other based on how you want to use it.
The Stylus is anything but a toy. I use it exclusively with S-Note for class and at work. Plus if you have any desire to do drawing/sketching on your tablet the Note is really the only choice. The infinity is horrible at stylus work. No matter how awesome your touchscreen tune is configured.
With that said the Infinity does offer a base with extended battery, sd card and a usb connection so if those matter then take that in to account. I found I didn't use the base very much. And when trying to take notes with the "office" apps I typed way to fast and there was serious delay.
As far as mirroring Infinity has hdmi out and Note has an allshare cast dongle (I believe this works with the note). Again subjective if you will use either.
I find the note better then then infinity. But that's just opinion and the way I use a tablet.
Oh and btw. Note warranty isn't voided when you root. Or at least you can get back to complete stock.

Nefariouss said:
This is the dumbest argument. First its not cheap plastic. Do some research.
Second the infinity problem is more then just screen resolution. Asus used cheap parts in the building. Thats why you have i/o issues.
Design and ergonomics is subjective. What's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.
And I have no clue what you're talking about with haptic. As far as I know it works fine on the Note. At least on mine.
The ONLY advantage you could quantitatively give Asus over Samsung is the screen resolution.
Aside from screen resolution, which ultimately each individual will have to decide which one he or she wants, both tablets have advantages over the other based on how you want to use it.
The Stylus is anything but a toy. I use it exclusively with S-Note for class and at work. Plus if you have any desire to do drawing/sketching on your tablet the Note is really the only choice. The infinity is horrible at stylus work. No matter how awesome your touchscreen tune is configured.
With that said the Infinity does offer a base with extended battery, sd card and a usb connection so if those matter then take that in to account. I found I didn't use the base very much. And when trying to take notes with the "office" apps I typed way to fast and there was serious delay.
As far as mirroring Infinity has hdmi out and Note has an allshare cast dongle (I believe this works with the note). Again subjective if you will use either.
I find the note better then then infinity. But that's just opinion and the way I use a tablet.
Oh and btw. Note warranty isn't voided when you root. Or at least you can get back to complete stock.
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for me plastic is cheap, no matter what kind u use, and if you use shiny plastics thats less cheaper haptics than ASUS.
Have you tried TF700T with 4.1 JB ROM? It is a lot more responsive and no more lags at all. More Resolution means more work for the Memory even on the UI, if it isn't optimized for this it would lag. Or did you have seen a more resoponsive Full HD Tablet now?! The I/O Troubles from cheap chips? Hynix 64GB NAND chip in 2X nm technology? Not the main problem about the I/O troubles more kernel side I think.
Yes Design is subjective. But please tell me that you better choose the Note Design over the Apple iPad's or ASUS TF700's. That should be a joke. Every review out there calls the plastic cheap.. and what feels cheap has a bad haptic in my understanding.
Stylus is a pretty nice feature for sure, but to be clear if you have the choice between Full HD and Stylus I choose Full HD because more density is just more.. more website, more picture, more from everything. If you want to draw on your tablet or you take handwritten notes often the stylus is yours. But why no full hd with stylus? the Display is just cheap and the display is one of the most important parts of a tablet.
I never had any real delay on my TF700T just little lags like on the most 4.0 Devices but from what you say delay in office I've never seen anything.
Tell me you would not prefer a Galaxy Note 10.1 and ASUS TF700T combination. The best of both worlds. ASUS Metal Body, Display, Dock, Camera, DDR3 and maybe Samsungs Stylus, 2GB Dualchannel Memory, IR-remote.
And as long as this perfect tablet doesn't exists everyone have to choose wich points he gives more wight.
And WHAT?! Rooting don't viod ASUS Warranty. Even unlocked ASUS still is cool with hardware defects.
Samsung also have a way to see what you have installed on your tablet and will don't give you warranty if you do great ****. Ever heard about Binary Counter?

Ever heard of the app that resets binary counter? Not like Asus which logs your s/n and has denied many warranty claims on that fact alone.
Please, your still spewing opinion as fact.
I guess you could search the infinity forum and the note forum and see which has more complaint threads.

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Please, your still spewing opinion as fact.
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you didn't?
I'm not a fanboy or something, yes I have a opinion and I give you a lot of facts for this opinion.
Even you do the same..

Well this got a lil out of hand lol. i was just answering a question that someone asked. He asked what one was faster and i gave him my opinion on it after playing with both side by side. He didn't seem worried about what they were made of, what JB would bring or what rooting/custom roms would do. Im guessing he was talking about sock out of the box devices if im worng then im sorry. I really didnt want this to turn into a flame war thread.

I have a Motorola Droid and an Infinity so if anyone wants to ask questions about that matchup, fire away.

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you didn't?
I'm not a fanboy or something, yes I have a opinion and I give you a lot of facts for this opinion.
Even you do the same..
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The only thing I stated that was a fact that made one better then the other was screen resolution.
Everything else about the two tablets comes down the subjectivity. I stated features that distinguish each tablet, but those features don't make one better then the other. It's up to each person to decide what features they want in a tablet and can live without from another.
Don't be mad dude.
And straight out of the box my opinion is the note 10.1 holds an edge as the better tablet.

i'm not a fan boy of asus, infact i have GS3. I have tried so hard to like the Galaxy Note 10.1. Bought it and returned it to bestbuy TWICE. trying to like it more than my asus and just can't. First i hate the cheap plastic YES CHEAP PLASTIC. hate it when you are holding the devices it feel SO CHEAP. Second the screen sucks compare to asus, cannot look at such low resolution and salutated colors, third i cannot get use to using a big touchwiz tablet, with all that crap installed. I understand that you can install custom rom, but 90% of the people don't even know about custom rom so they are force to use the tablet just has it is. With the infinity you don't have to do any of that. It looks plain ICS just the way i like it. Touchwiz looks to cartoony made for kids. I use my tablet for presentation and HDMI output is a must for me. Hate the way samsung uses HDMI, have to buy a $40 xtra connector plus using MHL hdmi requires Xtra power connector to an outlet for it to work. Asus tf700 run a microHDMI from tablet to HDMI TV and done.

OP - Since you have both tablets it would be benificial for everyone to see some comparison videos side by side. Only if your up to it. It does become time consuming.

I also have a note 10.1 that i won at work. Its nice, the pen thing is pretty cool but otherwise useless unless i want to draw or be an artsy pantsy dude. I mean using supernote on my infinity and writing with my fingers is as good if not better than the S pen app suite from samsung. The tablet is quite more responsive because lag plaigs the transformer but again, the TF700 has the ressources, just need to work on the software issue. The note is fatter, thicker and chunkier, it feels much cheaper also. The TF700 overall is the better tablet, it feel premium, has a beatiful screen resolution that in certain cases is better. I've compared both tablet side-by-side and played an MKV bluray rip and suprisingly the note has better, brighter colors, the blue is more blue, the greens are more green and in color saturation its considerably nicer. but unless you compare side by side, there is no way to know.
P.S. I can make a side by side video for you guys tonight

Nefariouss said:
The only thing I stated that was a fact that made one better then the other was screen resolution.
Everything else about the two tablets comes down the subjectivity. I stated features that distinguish each tablet, but those features don't make one better then the other. It's up to each person to decide what features they want in a tablet and can live without from another.
Don't be mad dude.
And straight out of the box my opinion is the note 10.1 holds an edge as the better tablet.
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I disagree. Cheap plastic, gimmick pen and horrible update history. TF700 ftw.... Also dude you need to calm down, calling other users argument stupid because they expressed an opinion shows how close minded you are. That kind of attitude is not needed on these forums.
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Ahhh.
I misunderstood the thread title.
It's about the Infinity and the Note 10.1.
Sorry I'm blind

pierrekid said:
I disagree. Cheap plastic, gimmick pen and horrible update history. TF700 ftw.... Also dude you need to calm down, calling other users argument stupid because they expressed an opinion shows how close minded you are. That kind of attitude is not needed on these forums.
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I encourage people to express opinion. But don't express it as fact.

beston94 said:
That's great Well, I'm buying my first tablet and I've read many reviews and many comparisons between those 2 tablets, and I know almost everything about them. The only thing left is something that can't be written down or recorded Just out of those 2, which one is faster I know it seems like a general question but I'm talking about raw performance. As in, which one will open applications a lot faster and load them a lot faster. You know, browsers and so on.
I'd appreciate it, thanks
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I had Galaxy Note 10.1 for 3 weeks before returning. Prior to which I had Transformer Infinity for almost 4 weeks. So what I have now? I am back to Infinity and plan to keep it.
Galaxy Note 10.1 essentially superior to Infinity every aspect except screen i.e. smoother, more stable, faster (especially browser), longer tablet standalone battery life. This is a fact. You put things side by side and ran same applications, it is easy to see without even running benchmark tests.
So why I chose Infinity? Because the difference in aforementioned areas are to me not significant enough to the difference in screen resolution.
Full HD is (to me) noticeble every seconds I use the tablet. Slightly less stability i.e. random crash every other day or so (which for some reason seemed to have improved) vs. once every week is manageable. Loading web page is slower but that is like 10 seconds on really flash heavy site that I visit so I am losing probably 5-10 minutes every day at most because of the difference in page loading time.

jjdevega said:
OP - Since you have both tablets it would be benificial for everyone to see some comparison videos side by side. Only if your up to it. It does become time consuming.
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I prolly wont do any vids there are quite a few on youtube.
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Thats OK said:
Ahhh.
I misunderstood the thread title.
It's about the Infinity and the Note 10.1.
Sorry I'm blind
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Yeah little typo, it doesnt seem that i proofread. Sorry about that.
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New Transformers at Computex?

After just selling my Infinity on eBay, looks like ASUS just released a teaser for Computex for June 6 of new transformers coming our way. While they showed previous products, the design looks almost identical to our Infinities. What would you want in an upgrade?
For me they HAVE to fix the storage speeds after a couple of years being plagued by these issues. I would keep the 1080P display and just upgrade to a Tegra 4 which looks very promising in performance. The reference Tegra 4 used very high speed SSD from Sandisk and hopefully ASUS took noticed. They are putting an huge push towards tablets as it is their largest growing market, so throwing their weight behind a new transformer line makes since as it is truly a differentiator from the other high end tablets on the market.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/08/...utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget
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legendary1022 said:
After just selling my Infinity on eBay, looks like ASUS just released a teaser for Computex for June 6 of new transformers coming our way. While they showed previous products, the design looks almost identical to our Infinities. What would you want in an upgrade?
For me they HAVE to fix the storage speeds after a couple of years being plagued by these issues. I would keep the 1080P display and just upgrade to a Tegra 4 which looks very promising in performance. The reference Tegra 4 used very high speed SSD from Sandisk and hopefully ASUS took noticed. They are putting an huge push towards tablets as it is their largest growing market, so throwing their weight behind a new transformer line makes since as it is truly a differentiator from the other high end tablets on the market.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/08/...utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget
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I don't think anything about that preview screams Android, but it's totally possible. Computex seems like just as good of a place as any.
I don't think I see Asus jumping on the Tegra 4 bandwagon. This is purely speculation, but I think someone would have reported rumblings somewhere if that were the case. Asus made a big stink about having the first available Tegra 3 device. I think they would have at least thrown around a few renders and buzzwords if they were excited about sticking with Nvidia in the mobile space.
In the US the Snapdragon platform makes more sense. The whole industry (in the US, anyway) seems to be moving that way, and Qualcom has a proven track record with LTE integration. Remember that the data enabled Infinity was using a dual-core Snapdragon. I think it's more likely that we'd see something with the 800, especially since Qualcom is just gearing up to ship them now.
But if we're making wishlists here, I'd like to see something built on Intel. Silvermont sounds plain nasty. I know nothing is going to be announced in the near future, but I'd like to see what a true mobile x86 chip can do with Android. Particularly if they decide to be cool about bootloaders. I'm not holding my breath, but a guy can dream, can't he?

While I am excited about the prospect of a new Transformer tablet (though it may be something else), I would not expect to see any new products from ASUS in store in the near future. I am still waiting for the Transformer Book, which was probably announced nearly a year ago!

I woulnd't be exited about it either way, seeing as it is now so far above my budget I wouldn't be able to afford it anyway; plus my Infinity works perfectly well the way I want it to. (The only thing that bugs me is USB transfer speed, and it's equally low on my supposedly-not-bottlenecked SGS3. So it's MTP, not I/O And that's software-based.)
And between a new tablet and a new phone, the phone has priority for me. That low 1280x800 screenres and the (for my taste) smallish 4.8" is driving me nuts!
I suspect it'll be the W8 variant of the Infinity, actually. So far all the other W8 tabs are more on par with the TF300. (And the Vivo had a dualcore, so not even that.) W8 is now mature enough to require a high-end tablet in the market.
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The teaser picture also shows a stylus coming out of the tablet.
A Tegra 4 or Snapdragon 800 Transformer tablet with the same screen as the Infinity and a stylus input similar to the Samsung Note family, with the I/O issues sorted out, would be a spectacular tablet for media consumption and productivity.

ToTTenTranz said:
The teaser picture also shows a stylus coming out of the tablet.
A Tegra 4 or Snapdragon 800 Transformer tablet with the same screen as the Infinity and a stylus input similar to the Samsung Note family, with the I/O issues sorted out, would be a spectacular tablet for media consumption and productivity.
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The Note 10.1 also has the ability to run 2 apps side by side. That is an awesome feature that I would like to see in future versions of Android.

I'm never buying another Asus tablet again if it isn't a Nexus. The Infinity is laggy and buggy constantly. I'm going to have to put CM 10.1 on it just to get it to work properly.
I hope they at least make it so that their tablets work properly before announcing more of them.

We've known the main issue for quite a while and the community has done a great job finding workarounds to the issues as best they could. The I/O issues after a few years of the Transformer series is inexcusable. I'm possible thinking of going with another high end tablet myself from another company, likely a Tegra 4 one (the games of the Tegra platform are just better than what anyone else is doing. Don't care on my phone, I do on my tablets).
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Actually, judging from the size in the video in relation to the other tabs, it looks to be 8". Maybe an 8" Transformer? Would be a tad smallish, though.
Non Sequitur said:
I'm never buying another Asus tablet again if it isn't a Nexus.
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Now if only it had a MicroSD slot.. And a Dock... And an extra battery... And a USB port... And an SDcard slot...
I'm sure the Nexus is faster. It's also completely useless for many of us.

I would love to see a new transformer on the market with the amount of problems I've seen on mine.
With that said I love the design on this one and lately my tablet has became a decent little powerhouse. It has a little lag on it,but that's not too big of a deal as I mainly see it on the home screen and 2d intensive games.
Sure I would love a nexus 10 but as discussed multiple times it also has its problems. As for me being a poorish college student with a beautiful tablet I can deal with the lag.
As for a new transformer I would love to see a new one. I mean they do have a fairly unique design with these things and when they work right they are beautifully quick. I had to install cm10.1 (the later builds) to get this speed but who on xda actually keeps their devices 100 percent stock?
Anyways enough with the rant. With the vivotabs coming out we need a new transformed. Hopefully with more ram, less bottlenecks, and possibly with a snapdragon instead. Tegras are nice but I see problems with them and non-tegra based games and stuff. I have yet to find a tablet design that beats the transformer line. The note is nice but I still like mine better and love the camera on it

Well looks like HP just stole some of the transformer thunder.
Tegra 4
1920 x 1200 Full HD IPS
64GB storage
micro SD and SD readers
2 USB ports
$479 with keyboard
Stock Android
August release
Seems promising to me and looks pretty cool (I like the look of the buttons). Hopefully ASUS comes strong with their offerings. HP has the chops to be a major player, they just had to get their executive issues fixed. They were the largest PC maker and can return to that and challenge Samsung, ASUS, and Sony in the tablet market.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/hp-slatebook-x2
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legendary1022 said:
Well looks like HP just stole some of the transformer thunder.
Tegra 4
1920 x 1200 Full HD IPS
64GB storage
micro SD and SD readers
2 USB ports
$479 with keyboard
Stock Android
August release
Seems promising to me and looks pretty cool (I like the look of the buttons). Hopefully ASUS comes strong with their offerings. HP has the chops to be a major player, they just had to get their executive issues fixed. They were the largest PC maker and can return to that and challenge Samsung, ASUS, and Sony in the tablet market.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/hp-slatebook-x2
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lol you beat me to this. I was about to suggest the same thing (HP Slatebook X2). If HP does this right, they may have a real chance of building a successful product, but I suspect the camera might not as good as the tf700. My tf700 has taken some really decent photos and it can easily put my Sensation to shame (I find the camera on my tf700 even better than the Note 2, but obviously I am not the best person to judge). .

SNAPDRAGONNNNNNNN 800. I'd kill to have one in a tablet.
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legendary1022 said:
Well looks like HP just stole some of the transformer thunder.
Tegra 4
1920 x 1200 Full HD IPS
64GB storage
micro SD and SD readers
2 USB ports
$479 with keyboard
Stock Android
August release
Seems promising to me and looks pretty cool (I like the look of the buttons). Hopefully ASUS comes strong with their offerings. HP has the chops to be a major player, they just had to get their executive issues fixed. They were the largest PC maker and can return to that and challenge Samsung, ASUS, and Sony in the tablet market.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/hp-slatebook-x2
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I don't like how close the ports are to the plastic ridge, most USB cables have larger covers on their plugs... Let alone HDMI.

legendary1022 said:
Well looks like HP just stole some of the transformer thunder.
Tegra 4
1920 x 1200 Full HD IPS
64GB storage
micro SD and SD readers
2 USB ports
$479 with keyboard
Stock Android
August release
Seems promising to me and looks pretty cool (I like the look of the buttons). Hopefully ASUS comes strong with their offerings. HP has the chops to be a major player, they just had to get their executive issues fixed. They were the largest PC maker and can return to that and challenge Samsung, ASUS, and Sony in the tablet market.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/hp-slatebook-x2
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Wow, that looks pretty damn nice for that price. If I can sell my TF700 & Dock for $500 I'll get this.

ShadowLea said:
Actually, judging from the size in the video in relation to the other tabs, it looks to be 8". Maybe an 8" Transformer? Would be a tad smallish, though.
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I used to be obsessed with the notion of a transformer mini, hoped the 370t/nexus 7 was going to be just that, with a full-sized dock and maybe a bezel to fill in the gaps made of front-facing speakers. I resigned myself to a 10" some time ago. Not sure if that happening now would make me happy or sad.

legendary1022 said:
Well looks like HP just stole some of the transformer thunder.
Tegra 4
1920 x 1200 Full HD IPS
64GB storage
micro SD and SD readers
2 USB ports
$479 with keyboard
Stock Android
August release
Seems promising to me and looks pretty cool (I like the look of the buttons). Hopefully ASUS comes strong with their offerings. HP has the chops to be a major player, they just had to get their executive issues fixed. They were the largest PC maker and can return to that and challenge Samsung, ASUS, and Sony in the tablet market.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/hp-slatebook-x2
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I'm pretty sure the SlateBook x2 only has one USB port, not two. See http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/x2/compare.html

Non Sequitur said:
I'm never buying another Asus tablet again if it isn't a Nexus. The Infinity is laggy and buggy constantly. I'm going to have to put CM 10.1 on it just to get it to work properly.
I hope they at least make it so that their tablets work properly before announcing more of them.
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Finally broke down and did this to mine and it is a lot more useful to me now.
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wifesabitch said:
Wow, that looks pretty damn nice for that price. If I can sell my TF700 & Dock for $500 I'll get this.
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legendary1022 said:
Well looks like HP just stole some of the transformer thunder.
Tegra 4
1920 x 1200 Full HD IPS
64GB storage
micro SD and SD readers
2 USB ports
$479 with keyboard
Stock Android
August release
Seems promising to me and looks pretty cool (I like the look of the buttons). Hopefully ASUS comes strong with their offerings. HP has the chops to be a major player, they just had to get their executive issues fixed. They were the largest PC maker and can return to that and challenge Samsung, ASUS, and Sony in the tablet market.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/hp-slatebook-x2
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Personally I wouldn't touch an HP with a ten foot pole.
I used to repair computers for a living and the product I saw most in my shop was HP.
Lots of hardware issues.
Asus, IMHO, is one of the best for hardware stability, whether you are talking desktop, Laptop or tablet.
The only time I ever saw an Asus product was for software issues. The hardware lasts forever.
This is just my experience, though.