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[POLL] galaxy tab or ipad

Which should I get?

If Android is your cup of tea go with an Android tab I am waiting for Cisco's Cius, patiently though

I love Android but I say the iPad. Larger screen (this may be subjective as a pro but 7 inches isn't going to be much more portable than 10), more accessories since its more widely used, and fantastic resell value (Apple resell value for nearly anything is through the roof).

This poll wont really offer any useful information other than the fact that a predominantly Android and WM forum prefers Android. That said, Galaxy Tab for me because I don't want to give Apple my money. I'd never buy a tab in the first place, though.

Definitely the iPad. Much-much better and more third-party software, LOVELY hardware, MUCH better battery life, much more tablet-friendly OS etc.

Menneisyys said:
Definitely the iPad. Much-much better and more third-party software, LOVELY hardware, MUCH better battery life, much more tablet-friendly OS etc.
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I wouldnt buy either of them, But you got to be kidding me. Ipad has better hardware? Much more tablet friendly? Stop lying to yourself and others. Ipad = mediocre hardware and itunes. Nothing redeeming about that.

hungry81 said:
I wouldnt buy either of them, But you got to be kidding me. Ipad has better hardware? Much more tablet friendly? Stop lying to yourself and others. Ipad = mediocre hardware and itunes. Nothing redeeming about that.
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1. Hardware-wise, the iPad has an IPS screen, while the Galaxy only has TN Film. Quite a difference.
Yeah, it doesn't have goodies like 256+M RAM and camera, but, in everyday life, at least the former isn't that big a problem.
2. Don't even bother comparing Android, which is stated NOT to be a tablet OS by Google itself, to a 100% tablet-friendly iOS...
3. What's wrong with iTunes? The iPad has excellent third party apps. And if you really hate iTunes / AppStore, you can always jailbreak it and use Cydia instead...

Menneisyys said:
1. Hardware-wise, the iPad has an IPS screen, while the Galaxy only has TN Film. Quite a difference.
Yeah, it doesn't have goodies like 256+M RAM and camera, but, in everyday life, at least the former isn't that big a problem.
2. Don't even bother comparing Android, which is stated NOT to be a tablet OS by Google itself, to a 100% tablet-friendly iOS...
3. What's wrong with iTunes? The iPad has excellent third party apps. And if you really hate iTunes / AppStore, you can always jailbreak it and use Cydia instead...
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I believe the iPad is just a big ass e-book reader...Hell, you don't even get Flash. I know Steve Jobs hates Adobe, but hey...we need flash..lol
With no camera on the ipad, it really is a killer for me. I know it seems sad, but I have thousands of pictures and take about 100 per day(I have no life).
I also prefer the Android OS to the iOS.
Size..I'd rather have 7 then 10..Yes 10 is nice, but I don't think I'll be reading that many books, and Robot Unicorn Attack is prolly the ONLY reason I'd switch OS's
Price..iPad wins that one..lol
My vote...It's your money, get what you want. But this is a ndroid/WinMo forum and you prolly want see many iOS fan boys here
Hope you get what you want.

I own an iPad and for games and stuff they're great! But after playing with a tab id go for tab

What do you want it for? They are reasonably similar hardware wise so it comes down to the OS mostly -- I'd give both of them a try if you can.
The Tab has the two camera's, weighs a fair bit less, supports flash and I think it can make calls too; the iPad has better battery life, a larger (IPS) screen, and an abundant amount of apps available. Note, iOS 4.2 is being released this November so the iPad will have multi-tasking, folders, etc.

iPad, Not only because I got one, because I kno any Android tablet will be a waste of hardware due to hardly any apps being written speficially for it. Adding a tablet form into the Android market is just increasing the fragmentation if you ask me.
BUT, it really depends on your needs.
If you need the freedom and funcitonality, get the Tab. Though not every app will work.
If the overall user experience matters to you, with a more polished OS and every app able to work on your device, get the iPad. Though you're in a locked environment.

brilldoctor said:
Which should I get?
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Netbook with meerkat? Anyone? Just saying.

Neither. Give the money to charity...uhmm...maybe I will create an iCharity. Everybody from the church of Apple will gladly contribute ...such naive people ... so gullible ... I will get rich quickly! Better patent the idea quickly!

I love Android but I would go for the iPad. I got a chance to play around with it and was thoroughly impressed by the quality of the display and the speed and smoothness of the UI.

Posting this on an iPad. I love it and it is with almost at all times. I haven't touched the galaxy tab... Somehow android on a tablet doesn't seem very appealing. I've used android phones since the G1 (I have a MyTouch 4g now), however, and I love it and prefer it over iOS as a phone operating system. Having the iPad in conjunction with it lets me have my cake and eat it too.

ok i think the poll has decided

Throwdown: IPAD vs. Gtablet; I bought My wife an IPAD for Xmas!

Ok... I am a die hard NON apple kind of guy. My wife bought her Iphone a year ago leaving me and verizon to fend for ourselves. Then I suggested she buy a Mac book as she has been slamming windows for as long as we have been married. So, after loving angry birds on my Gtab for the past month, I thought, what a perfect gift for her (and me to compare) an IPAD would be. So I bought her one for Christmas.
I have to say, the screen really is fine. The lighter weight and the form factor is sweet too. But, to have to have an app (which they do have an app for everything many free for sure) to view most web sites in a "standard" mode such as to see video on them etc., I still can not see that. And, no add on memory and no real interface... the battle is on!
I will update you periodically as I try and see it from an Apple user perspective.

That IPS screen is very nice. Did some after Xmas shopping today and took another look at the iPad. It's the one thing that really stands out on the iPad, versus the GTab.
I know that, in time, Android tablets will catch up (Notion Ink? please don't be vaporware).

roebeet said:
That IPS screen is very nice. Did some after Xmas shopping today and took another look at the iPad. It's the one thing that really stands out on the iPad, versus the GTab.
I know that, in time, Android tablets will catch up (Notion Ink? please don't be vaporware).
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Hold off, since rumors of some form of USB, microsd, and additional camera functionality will not die in regard to iPad 2011 models.
I can not look at the iPad display, since I then have to reacclimate to G's dispaly. ..... ....
Man, just think of the Gtablet with at least a Galaxy Tab level display.....

Here's my guess on the iPad v2 - it will almost certainly have a camera. Makes sense for Facetime.
A USB port and / or a microSD slot would be a major shocker, so I highly doubt that would happen. It goes against the walled-garden approach that Apple loves so much.

I have been an iphone user for two years. You may heard this before but lack of flash of support equals COMPLETE FAIL as I an an avid news junkie and enjoy news clips.
Now if only Netflix and google can work out their differences and bring official support for streaming netflix to droid devices then I will be switching to droid in the spring when my phone contract is due for renewal.
PS, I have owned an apple PC and it would not run 1/5th the software that was available while the apple had software support for virtually NOTHING that I needed on the PC and couldn't get.
My brother and I had this same argument about a year ago where he was praising the superiority of the Mac, about a month later he embarrassingly admitted to me I was absolutely right about the Apple causing him to not have acess to most of the software out there.
At the time I bought my last Dell laptop I spec it out with the 2G Duo Core, a wireless N1 card, a Geforce mobile GT8600, a 7200spd hard drive and 2G of Ram. I went to the apple web site and spec' out the SAME configuration, it was over $1,000 MORE!
Same hardware, LESS software, nearly double the price.
Come on...how is that EVEN a contest? I have since upgraded that same laptop to Win 7 32b and it STILL runs like a champ (do you think that would have been the case with a macbook?)
By the way, my viewsonic (although a tad buggy at this time) was 25% cheaper than an ipad and the only real advantage I can see of the ipad was superior screen while it has weaker hardware, and I am 100% confident that the Droid 2.2 and coming honeycomb will equal or surpass the ipad in the coming year.
Gauntlet thrown, Apple failed.
I do love my iphone but I have physically thrown it after getting literally thousands of video errors with flash videos news sites not to mention the fact that the vast majority of "apps" are just dumb downed versions of web pages that I do not really care for (there are quite a few with functionaity for actual mobile use but many apps are just "internet for idiots". What I am saying here is that I am not impressed with "who has the most apps" I just need certain specific ones (which you can get from EITHER company pretty much).

I personally have a love/hate relationship with Apple.
My first laptop was a greyscale PowerBook, I've used all the older pre-10 iterations and I think OSX is an outstanding achievement. But iOS just burns me up and I can see that they are expanding this walled-garden mentality into their Mac products, as well. No standard external ports like USB, no external storage, nothing allowed on the device except through iTunes, no Flash just because Jobs is pissed off that Adobe dumped them for MS. I just hate that with a passion. And the iPad v1 is the culmination of everything I loathe about them.
But, it does have a really nice screen.

I am a veteran of the Windows/Mac Wars of the 90s and the one thing I learned is: If it does what you want and I can run what I want, then I don't care what you run. If you like Apple, if you like Win7, if you like Linux, if you like iOS, if you like Android, if you like webOS... then bully for you! I happen to like some of those myself, so whoop de do!
But tell me my platform sucks or try to spend 30min telling me WHY my platform sucks, well, I have better things to do, thanks.
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I Gave My iPad to my Wife
I gave my iPad to my wife to read her Kindle books on. I bought my gTablet on November 17th, and I have not missed my iPad. I am loving my gTablet, and it is just getting better and better with time. I am running TNT Lite 3.1.2 on mine. With flash, adhoc wi-fi support, and the full market, I am plenty happy. I am looking forward to the bright future of the gTablet.

Doing some research on video out on the IPAD. It has a selection of cables for composite, component and vga, but guess what? Only very few apps output to video such as movies, photos and not much else.
When I hooked up my HDMI to my dock today, EVERYTHING I saw on the screen was showing on the big screen.

roebeet said:
I personally have a love/hate relationship with Apple.
My first laptop was a greyscale PowerBook, I've used all the older pre-10 iterations and I think OSX is an outstanding achievement. But iOS just burns me up and I can see that they are expanding this walled-garden mentality into their Mac products, as well. No standard external ports like USB, no external storage, nothing allowed on the device except through iTunes, no Flash just because Jobs is pissed off that Adobe dumped them for MS. I just hate that with a passion. And the iPad v1 is the culmination of everything I loathe about them.
But, it does have a really nice screen.
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You are far more qualified than me to make this assessment but if you are only designing your OS to have functionality with very specific in house written end user software, I would think it would be EASY to achieve a tighter higher performaing OS.
Do the circumstances of how osx exsists in the first place not SIGNIFICANTLY diminish its level of "oustanding" as an achievement?
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I am a veteran of the Windows/Mac Wars of the 90s and the one thing I learned is: If it does what you want and I can run what I want, then I don't care what you run. If you like Apple, if you like Win7, if you like Linux, if you like iOS, if you like Android, if you like webOS... then bully for you! I happen to like some of those myself, so whoop de do!
But tell me my platform sucks or try to spend 30min telling me WHY my platform sucks, well, I have better things to do, thanks.
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Fair points. Although unfortunately for all of us here, if a thing sucks it is going to suck regardless of what any individual really thinks. Suckage is an absolute and will be unaffected by all the good will of the world. Rotten meat will not become premium meat because 1000 people love it. Unfortunately this seems to be the casse with apple. In the 80s A Team and Knight Rider were top shows, just because people were watching did not make them actually good. Just because lots of people are buying Ipads does not over come the facts of an absolute and unavoidable conclusion based on the facts (listed above about ports, camera, storage devices, flash, cost, etc etc.). Its not really about convincing or anyones opinion. Its just a fact that it sucks, kind of like how the world is round (regardless of if anyone likes said fact or not).

insight3fl said:
Ok... I am a die hard NON apple kind of guy. My wife bought her Iphone a year ago leaving me and verizon to fend for ourselves. Then I suggested she buy a Mac book as she has been slamming windows for as long as we have been married. So, after loving angry birds on my Gtab for the past month, I thought, what a perfect gift for her (and me to compare) an IPAD would be. So I bought her one for Christmas.
I have to say, the screen really is fine. The lighter weight and the form factor is sweet too. But, to have to have an app (which they do have an app for everything many free for sure) to view most web sites in a "standard" mode such as to see video on them etc., I still can not see that. And, no add on memory and no real interface... the battle is on!
I will update you periodically as I try and see it from an Apple user perspective.
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LOL, well your credibility for providing a non-bias Apple user perspective is tainted by stating you're a "die hard NON apple kind of guy". jk. My sister in law has an Ipad and I think its just a great big Ipod touch which is actually a compliment. It's so smooth and pretty to look at. Did you download skyfire on the Ipad? I heard it was out as an app. I'm curious to see how it runs on the Ipad.
Let us know.
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roebeet said:
Here's my guess on the iPad v2 - it will almost certainly have a camera. Makes sense for Facetime.
A USB port and / or a microSD slot would be a major shocker, so I highly doubt that would happen. It goes against the walled-garden approach that Apple loves so much.
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I agree, a ff camera will be on the Ipad 2. You know Apple was gonna do that anyways but decided to leave it out so people will be more likely to upgrade. That's why I'm so leary when buying apple products or any product for that matter. I want it to have my minimum requirements at least for me to consider buying it.
I also agree that it will not have expandable memory which is a shame.

xmr405o said:
I agree, a ff camera will be on the Ipad 2. You know Apple was gonna do that anyways but decided to leave it out so people will be more likely to upgrade. That's why I'm so leary when buying apple products or any product for that matter. I want it to have my minimum requirements at least for me to consider buying it.
I also agree that it will not have expandable memory which is a shame.
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I think folks will be surprised and there will either be USB function, or micro sd options (both?). The only thing holding Apple back from complete market domination are those issues and people that hate Apple. Though Apple can do nothing for the latter, they can compromise with the former.
There should be some decent "leaks" in about a month. We shall see.........

My first computer back in the late 70's was an Apple ][. That was back in the days of Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak. Even back then it was clear that the Woz only really cared about the technology and Jobs only really cared about the money. I was an avid Apple defender back then but a few years later we had Apple taken over, Woz and Jobs were out and Peter Skelly was in. Skelly had been the CEO of Pepsi Cola and his knowledge of technology consisted of being able to flip the on/off switch on lights, computers and various electrical items. Eventually he had the sense to bring Jobs back in.
Here's the problem, Jobs is glorious at design and ergonomic functionality, he is also a true technophile. He designs magnificent looking machines with super friendly GUI's that people love. But, once you get past the look of his machines you find that they offer simple AND limited functionality, and that is the very reason that the great masses love Apple machines.
Because people love the look and feel of the machines they are willing to pay bloated prices for what they see as "superior" technology when really the only thing superior is the physical design and ease of use for the technically unannointed. That is GREAT business, but lousy geekiness.
You can't knock Apple's ability to design machines that sell and make piles of money and you can't knock their success. For me, the problem is that I don't want to give them my money anymore because their machines aren't "fun".
My first priority is that my techno gadgets be functional and a close second is that they must be fun. Apple doesn't fit into that nook. Even so I did buy three Mac's a couple of years ago and found that their build quality was poor and that surprised me a lot. But in business, public perception is a bigger selling point that anything else and Apple got that right, too bad they didn't get the technical end right.
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I came across this old thread while researching the GTablet. The only thing that is really holding me back from buying one is the screen. The videos I see on Youtube make the screen look really bad, especially one that has a side by side comparison of the Gtablet vs Ipad. Since the GTablet has been out for awhile now, are those who own it still happy? I need to find a B&M store that has one so I can check it out, I really wish it had an IPS screen like the iPad though. I dont get why somebody doesnt come out with a killer Android tablet that can really compete with the iPad.

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I came across this old thread while researching the GTablet. The only thing that is really holding me back from buying one is the screen. The videos I see on Youtube make the screen look really bad, especially one that has a side by side comparison of the Gtablet vs Ipad. Since the GTablet has been out for awhile now, are those who own it still happy? I need to find a B&M store that has one so I can check it out, I really wish it had an IPS screen like the iPad though. I dont get why somebody doesnt come out with a killer Android tablet that can really compete with the iPad.
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I picked the gtab because I like to customize the gtab and try different Roms. I am very happy with mine using vegan tab. Flash has been a big bonus. The screen works surprisingly well. Sure, its not perfect, but this gtab has some power and is 400 bucks less than xoom. If you like out of the box OS and don't like to tinker, then get the 16GB iPad from best buy for $399. Battery life on the gtab is awesome. I wake up at 4am and use it throughout the day and heavy use by evening. I will have several hours left on the battery when I go to bed around 9pm. Try Office depot, as many have them in stock to play with. Good luck.

androidmonkey said:
I came across this old thread while researching the GTablet. The only thing that is really holding me back from buying one is the screen. The videos I see on Youtube make the screen look really bad, especially one that has a side by side comparison of the Gtablet vs Ipad. Since the GTablet has been out for awhile now, are those who own it still happy? I need to find a B&M store that has one so I can check it out, I really wish it had an IPS screen like the iPad though. I dont get why somebody doesnt come out with a killer Android tablet that can really compete with the iPad.
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So I was having the same issues before I picked up the gtablet, and having used it for a few days, the screen isn't really that bad. I also love the more widescreen aspect of it vs the ipad allows for better media watching. But it does mean you have to dive more into the device and its setup (custom roms, etc) and if that is daunting to you then I would skip the gtablet.

No issues with geek stuff like flashing ROMs. Ive been an Android user since the G1, member here on xda since then. I currently have a SGS Vibrant, rooted with Bionix.
So, what would you compare the screen to? I have a nearby Office Depot, will try to check it out tomorrow. Is the GTablet the best thing going right now? From the specs, it seems so. One last thing, what are you using to protect it? Screen protector? Case?

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No issues with geek stuff like flashing ROMs. Ive been an Android user since the G1, member here on xda since then. I currently have a SGS Vibrant, rooted with Bionix.
So, what would you compare the screen to? I have a nearby Office Depot, will try to check it out tomorrow. Is the GTablet the best thing going right now? From the specs, it seems so. One last thing, what are you using to protect it? Screen protector? Case?
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With the newest official and unofficial VS update, you may not need to use an alternative ROM.
I would compare the screen directly to a netbook screen. It is by no means imho as horrid as some would have you think, but it's not for everyone. Some people feel you should be able to see what's on the phone/tablet screens while they sit flat on a desk and you're in a chair - while I think it's nice to be able to, I certainly don't think it's necessary to enjoy it and this is just something again, imo vendors have used to inflate the cost of these devices beyond their 'real' practical value. "why is our tablet $800 when so and so is selling one with the same internals for $300? well, have you SEEEEEN our screen? BIG difference!" yeah, you get my drift.
Spec-wise, I think it's a toss-up between the GTablet and it's siblings (interpad, hanspree tablet, malata zpad, avent vega, etc.) or the Notion Ink Adam. As you probably know, the iPad is pretty nice but it's def. lacking in terms of (imo, again) certain little details where the GTablet and other Android devices with similar specs excel and you would have to either learn to live in Apple's walled garden or do some 'techie' stuff in order to jailbreak anyway. Is it the BEST right now? I don't know - probably not. It was released in Nov. 2010, there's bound to be something with similar specs and a 'better' screen by now, if not then yeah it's probably the best VALUE for what you get as of right now.

I would have got her an ipad too.
Don't get me wrong I love my gtab, but I exhaust so much time modifying and fixing my own one. I don't mind that for myself but stuffed if I'm gonna spend my entire free time fixing someone elses tablet. Ipad can't do as much but in return I don't have to ever look at it or maintain it hence freeing up my spare time.
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[Q] G-Tablet vs iPad2

I just saw a post on Anandtech comparing ipad2 and xoom starting a fire-storm of comments. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4216/apple-ipad-2-gpu-performance-explored-powervr-sgx543mp2-benchmarked/1
I looked up the benchmark details for the g-tablet, ipad1 and xoom on GLBanchmark, on cursory examination looks like g-tab compares very well with ipad2 and in some cases out performs ipad2. http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=glpro20&showhide=true&certified_only=1&D1=ViewSonic%20G%20Tablet&D2=Apple%20iPad&D3=Motorola%20Xoom.
Can somebody cross verify this.
a) I'm not an expert in this field
b) I'm a proud owner of a G-tab so might well be biased .
Note: I have posted a similar comment in anandtech's comment section, but asking it here as this might be a more appropriate forum.
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What I personally have been seeing, as well as another member on Reddit, the gTab is benching better than the xoom, which would place it still worse than the iPad 2.
Edit: Source link: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/g3yqw/after_seeing_the_xoom_benchmarks_i_decided_to/
Further edit: Are you looking for a comparison to iPad 2 or the original iPad? You mention both in your post, and the link goes to a comparison against iPad 1.

Sorry for the confusion.
My intended comparison is to ipad2. GLBenchmark still does not have iPad2 in their pull-down selection choices. Anandtech had a table comparing iPad1 & iPad2, so I had to eyeball between the 2 pages and used ipad1 just as a frame of reference.
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No probs. The gTab is fairing well against the Xoom in those benchmarks, but there are some things the iPad can be better at. The gTab doesn't touch the iPad 2 in terms of benchmarks.
To be honest, I wouldn't get bogged down on specifics of benchmarks. While benchmarks can show how well a device can perform, they miss the most important thing. "Does the device work for you?"

Sorry saw the wrong column. yup g-tab no where near ipad2

There are a few things to consider:
The ipad2 is an ipad with a dual core cpu/gpu and 2 cameras, that's really it.
So far, from what I've been reading the ipad 2 graphics whips the tegra 2, however I have no clue how our dual core 1GHz CPU compares to the dual core A5 900Mhz running on the ipad2.
Furthermore, the ipad runs optimized code on optimized hardware...so ios has that bonus over honeycomb in every way. The ipad and ipad2 will always technically SEEM quicker in some respects vs. Android and Honeycomb/Froyo etc. because of that reason alone. Of course, the Gtab is actually faster than the iPad and that's quite visible when running multiple apps or viewing video.
That being said, it really boils down to how their a5 cpu compares to our t2. We know their graphics are faster at the very least. But our CPU may be a bit faster. I'm not speaking in terms of 900Mhz vs. 1Ghz. I'm speaking in terms of the optimized code I'm talking about. The iPad doesn't really need all that much raw power because all the software is optimized to run on it. It's also meant to sip power at that speed. Our t2 sips power by clocking all the way down. Thats the biggest difference.
It could be a situation where apps and cpu intensive processes may start/close and execute etc. quicker/faster for us - but games may look a bit better for the ipad2, as well as swishing around icons and 2D intensive stuff.
If you can put up with itunes, for $100 more you get a tablet that "just works" with a set it and forget it attitude and has 2 cameras. For $399 the G Tablet is a great value and a must have for tinkerers and those who prefer 'freedom' and choice.
Any comparison between both I think will really have to be on a person to person basis at this point; whereas if it were ipad vs. gtab I'd def. recommend Gtab based on power and the ipad based only on a "required" prerequisite of having a "better" screen.

I am not ipad fan as I have ipad for kids and have evo and viewaonic tablet as my android devices.
Love my evo which is the best phone in my opinion, but gtablet does everything well, but the quality of the screen, hardware and thiness of the device and battery life goes to ipad hands down.
Gtablet is really good, but it is heavy and ugly. Apple hardware have always been better looking then their counter part.
I have nice dell xps 1645, but it is still failed in compare to perfectly rectangular MacBook pro which I lust.
It will be always like comparing apple and windows.
Hope honeycomb can close the gap in usability compare to froyo and gingerbread for the tablet.
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rob_z11 said:
I am not ipad fan as I have ipad for kids and have evo and viewaonic tablet as my android devices.
Love my evo which is the best phone in my opinion, but gtablet does everything well, but the quality of the screen, hardware and thiness of the device and battery life goes to ipad hands down.
Gtablet is really good, but it is heavy and ugly. Apple hardware have always been better looking then their counter part.
I have nice dell xps 1645, but it is still failed in compare to perfectly rectangular MacBook pro which I lust.
It will be always like comparing apple and windows.
Hope honeycomb can close the gap in usability compare to froyo and gingerbread for the tablet.
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I don't understand how Apple products gets all the raves. Before I buy anything I always look at Apple and end up buying something else because I find them too low tech. The grayed out OS on the laptops plus the lower than most laptops on the market specs and closed architecture a real turn off on their laptops. I will take a PC any day with any operating system I choose to put on it and I do get that option. For me electronic equipment is all about having options.
The ipad is a real let down. All icandy, after you get past the screen and giant played out icons--what is this the third or fourth year we are seeing them on everything Apple, how much longer will they rock those tired icons? The swipe to the left and right and up and down could hardly compare to a processor running 3D operations. Spinning 3D carousals, live wallpapers and four to five homescreens. No comparison; if that was all the G Tab did, the benchmark scores would be off the charts or any other OS for that matter.
To each his own, just adding to the conversation. I tried to like Apple products but I just don't find them good enough. Who heard of a hard drive you couldn't yank out after purchase and replace with whatever you wanted along with the other components. I guess the Apple prison system is not for me. Don't want to stop anyone else from enjoying though. For me the cons out-weigh the pros.

Stop comparing Apples and Androids!
Version_3 said it correctly. Find out what works for you and use that.
I have both an iPad1 and G-Tab. Both have pluses and minuses.
For "getting things done" I use the iPad. For entertainment and satisfying my inner geek I use the G-Tab.
There is no use in comparing hardware specs since the operating systems on both are so dissimilar. What needs to be looked at is doing what you like in the manner in which you like it. Comparing the "software" against each other is also fruitless since each person interprets how the software works for them.
My personal observations are as follows:
iPad + iTunes = ease of use
G-Tab + ?? = not as easy
G-Tab + Google Apps = Totally awesome
iPad + Google Apps = unimpressive
iPad + App Store = easy to use and solid software
G-Tab + Market = not intuitive and flaky software
Battery Life = iPad
Camera = G-Tab (not too impressive though)
To each his own.
Note - my wife will not even touch the G-Tab since the days of force closing apps... It made a negative impression on her that wont go away soon... She loves the iPad because it "just works". Android needs to figure out a way to overcome those perceptions.

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Version_3 said it correctly. Find out what works for you and use that.
I have both an iPad1 and G-Tab. Both have pluses and minuses.
For "getting things done" I use the iPad. For entertainment and satisfying my inner geek I use the G-Tab.
There is no use in comparing hardware specs since the operating systems on both are so dissimilar. What needs to be looked at is doing what you like in the manner in which you like it. Comparing the "software" against each other is also fruitless since each person interprets how the software works for them.
My personal observations are as follows:
iPad + iTunes = ease of use
G-Tab + ?? = not as easy
G-Tab + Google Apps = Totally awesome
iPad + Google Apps = unimpressive
iPad + App Store = easy to use and solid software
G-Tab + Market = not intuitive and flaky software
Battery Life = iPad
Camera = G-Tab (not too impressive though)
To each his own.
Note - my wife will not even touch the G-Tab since the days of force closing apps... It made a negative impression on her that wont go away soon... She loves the iPad because it "just works". Android needs to figure out a way to overcome those perceptions.
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I also have a gTab running VEGAn beta 5.1.1 as well as an iPad 1. I have to say that you and I have opposite uses for our tablets it seems. While you use the gTab for play and your iPad for "getting things done" I find it difficult to use the iPad for work but rather find the gPad (with the ROM and apps I've purchased) much easier to accomplish work on.
As for iTunes... I find with DoubleTwist I can get by just fine on my gTab. The only time I honestly find myself using my iPad (got it for free from work and they pay for the data plan too) is when I want to keep my 20 month old and 4 year old busy with a Netflix video at the table while my wife and I enjoy a nice dinner out. They LOVE Shaun the Sheep and it keeps them mesmerized. Although I can rip those discs and play them on the gTab it's just simpler to stream Netflix on the iPad for them.
Now for the wife... I bought her a Nook Color since most of what she does is read on it. I've also ripped some "chick flick" dvds for her and put it on her Nook Color and it plays them fine too. And of course, with root she got her damn Angry Birds...
Like most electronic devices, both the gTab and the iPad fill different needs for different people. For me, the iPad is a consumer device where the users consume media (as long as it's not Flash) and the gTab (even with it's faults like the screen) allows me to truly leave my 30 pound work laptop (with charger) behind and still get work done.
In the end, like you said, to each his own...

I guess my 2 cents:
*Software optimization*
*Resolutions*
Neither of which the Xoom or G-Tablet have thats helping them in any way. Honeycomb is no where near what I would call optimized. Plus in my mind when I see a benchmark comparing 1440 x 900 to 640 x 480 I'm sure the fps in the lower will be a bit faster. Yes I am android fan but, I can't say that the A5 is bad or the results are totally farce. Time will tell, maybe a few months from now maybe Nvidia / Google will get their crap together before we see the Tegra 3's with the left out hardware.
Plus doesn't the Xoom have 27 native open gl extensions and the gl benchmark only found 21?
Ahhh benchmarks drive me crazy, they start wars.

Speaking of issues such as tap n tap slowing the tablet down to a crawl and FC, viewsonic is not a small company. Why in the world didn't their testers pick these things up?

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Speaking of issues such as tap n tap slowing the tablet down to a crawl and FC, viewsonic is not a small company. Why in the world didn't their testers pick these things up?
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Excellent question and I went to the tap n tap website which was an eye opener. Why in the world would they choose this for a device with so much hardware promise?
Good thing for them buyers were able to see past the bad decision and look at the big picture.
Software is changeable and hardware, particularly, on a device such as this--meaning tablet--is what it is. What you get, is what you get. Pretty much fixed unless you get into add ons and soldering.

Your thoughts on CES so far.

Well, I had to cut and run early from CES because I couldn't take the whole week off of work, it was my first CES and I will be attending yearly from now on. Overall, the titan 2 and the outstanding Lumia 900 completely stole the show, though Sony's new offering actually seemed to bring new life to android, perhaps if their custom UI is smooth I'll pick one up. I won a free Nexus S (didn't even know they still made those clunkers) and had my Lumia 800 case signed by some of the WP7 team. There is a bit more I'd have liked to see and some of the booths were almost comical, but overall it was an amazing experience for a phone lover.

Did you get to see Intel's demo unit running Android on Medfield x86? That's the only thing in CES so far that's grabbed my attention.

The Asus Memo. Tegra 3, IPS Screen, expandable storage all for $250 now that is a price that will get people buying it

I must say, as an outsider (I'm not at CES) I am rather disappointed. I expected a little more, for instance on Google TV. but overall, some awesome stuff was announced!

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I must say, as an outsider (I'm not at CES) I am rather disappointed. I expected a little more, for instance on Google TV. but overall, some awesome stuff was announced!
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Me too. I was expecting a bit more But anyway, CES phones portfolio is great. Waiting for MWC now

Same here. From what I've been seeing through different websites and what-not I'm fairly disappointed in the new technology. A lot of it has been rehashed gadgets not-so-innovative designs. There have been a few gems, though, like the seagate 4g lte WiFi drive. Otherwise I haven't been able to get truly excited for things.

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Did you get to see Intel's demo unit running Android on Medfield x86? That's the only thing in CES so far that's grabbed my attention.
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I didn't sadly, just watched it online. It was rather nice thoughandroid's presence as a whole was underwhelming this time around.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443777

Any tablets to compete with iPad 3?

I love android. I'm a fan boy. I admit it. But I will be in the market for a tablet in the next month or so, and at the time, the iPad 3 has the resolution I need. Is there any other tablets I'm missing that run ICS and would have a comparable (preferably higher) resolution in the near future?
and before anyone starts with the "oh you don't need that high of resolution." yes, I do. I'm a photographer and this will be used as a traveling portfolio. More pixels = more detail.
I've already checked out the new Transformer and the Acer A700 btw

bloodrain954 said:
I love android. I'm a fan boy. I admit it. But I will be in the market for a tablet in the next month or so, and at the time, the iPad 3 has the resolution I need. Is there any other tablets I'm missing that run ICS and would have a comparable (preferably higher) resolution in the near future?
and before anyone starts with the "oh you don't need that high of resolution." yes, I do. I'm a photographer and this will be used as a traveling portfolio. More pixels = more detail.
I've already checked out the new Transformer and the Acer A700 btw
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Already checked the new Transformer...
Can I Ass-U-Me that you mean the up and coming Transformer Infinity?
If 1920x1200 isnt enough, then no, I havent seen a tablet (thats not DIY and probably cant be considered a tablet) with Android and a higher resolution...
Ill be straight with you and tell you I cannot stand Apple, mainly the price premium and Berlin wall OS...
HOWEVER, and trust me, my mouth tastes horridly of something foul when I type (and yes SAY as I have said it to someone else) here telling you that Apple got it right by going 4:3 for tablets and 16:10 for the new Mac laptop's...
For photo editing you will probably want to go with the iPad 3 for its resolution, but remember, 4:3 so if you take pictures in this fashion, it will be fine, but you wont see the true beauty of it unless you view it in a 16:10 or greater fashion
I spew my hatred all over the NARROWSCREEN 16:9 aspect ratio resolution monitors all day... stupid media industry brainwashing the masses
EDIT: As a Transformer TF101 (OG) owner, while I dont have the money, I would LOVE to have the up and coming TF-Infinity... I have 5 systems at home, personal ones at least, 2 desktop monitors 1920x1200, 2 laptop monitors 1920x1200, and a 1440x900 desktop (they are all pretty outdated, no quads to be found and 4GB, 2GB average, mostly parts PC's), my AT&T Galaxy Note (1280x800) and of course the TF101 at 1280x800.

Why do people think there is a price premium. Seriously do you know what you're talking about . IPad is very competitive on price. The OS may be locked down, but I have never come across anything thing I can't do. The iPad app store is far superior to androids. I have the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 & there are hardly any apps for it. You can do anything you want just as easily on an iPad.

I agree with Samsung Galaxy Tab 2, I've both in my house, and I really prefere the Samsung Tab.

Hello. I have a Galaxy Tab 7.7. I like it. It does it's job, but I can not recommend it until ICS will be out for it. I have rooted it and uninstall some bloatware and I use honeybar, but still... It is not quite it should be

monkeyluis said:
Why do people think there is a price premium. Seriously do you know what you're talking about . IPad is very competitive on price. The OS may be locked down, but I have never come across anything thing I can't do. The iPad app store is far superior to androids. I have the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 & there are hardly any apps for it. You can do anything you want just as easily on an iPad.
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1) put the flame thrower down, nobody said anything about price. Price isn't the issue.
2) you don't know my needs. I have literally hundreds of paid apps on android already, so I'd prefer to keep the Android os.
3) pretty much the only thing the tablet will be used for is to display pictures when I'm traveling so I don't have to carry a portfolio with me.
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I agree with Samsung Galaxy Tab 2, I've both in my house, and I really prefere the Samsung Tab.
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The tab is nice, but I really need a higher resolution
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I'm leaning towards the A700 for now. I can work with the 1920x1200,and the microsd slot is very nice considering I already have a 32 and 64gb cards.
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bloodrain954 said:
1) put the flame thrower down, nobody said anything about price. Price isn't the issue.
2) you don't know my needs. I have literally hundreds of paid apps on android already, so I'd prefer to keep the Android os.
3) pretty much the only thing the tablet will be used for is to display pictures when I'm traveling so I don't have to carry a portfolio with me.
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Um, yeah hammerfest did. I was only correcting them.
I wasn't addressing your needs, i was only addressing their misconceptions about the iPad. I never said you had to get the iPad.

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Why do people think there is a price premium. Seriously do you know what you're talking about . IPad is very competitive on price. The OS may be locked down, but I have never come across anything thing I can't do. The iPad app store is far superior to androids. I have the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 & there are hardly any apps for it. You can do anything you want just as easily on an iPad.
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+1, very very true. I have EVO 4g lte, motorola xoom (previously the transformer prime (2x)) and none perform better than my newly jailbreak ipad3. I've always been a android guy and will always be as you can see my phone is android (dislike the iphone for it screen size).

Hammerfest said:
Already checked the new Transformer...
Can I Ass-U-Me that you mean the up and coming Transformer Infinity?
If 1920x1200 isnt enough, then no, I havent seen a tablet (thats not DIY and probably cant be considered a tablet) with Android and a higher resolution...
Ill be straight with you and tell you I cannot stand Apple, mainly the price premium and Berlin wall OS...
HOWEVER, and trust me, my mouth tastes horridly of something foul when I type (and yes SAY as I have said it to someone else) here telling you that Apple got it right by going 4:3 for tablets and 16:10 for the new Mac laptop's...
For photo editing you will probably want to go with the iPad 3 for its resolution, but remember, 4:3 so if you take pictures in this fashion, it will be fine, but you wont see the true beauty of it unless you view it in a 16:10 or greater fashion
I spew my hatred all over the NARROWSCREEN 16:9 aspect ratio resolution monitors all day... stupid media industry brainwashing the masses
EDIT: As a Transformer TF101 (OG) owner, while I dont have the money, I would LOVE to have the up and coming TF-Infinity... I have 5 systems at home, personal ones at least, 2 desktop monitors 1920x1200, 2 laptop monitors 1920x1200, and a 1440x900 desktop (they are all pretty outdated, no quads to be found and 4GB, 2GB average, mostly parts PC's), my AT&T Galaxy Note (1280x800) and of course the TF101 at 1280x800.
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He is true. There will never be any tablet that come near the new ipad resolution (at least in this and next year). That is apple only idea about the ridiculous pixel density. 1080p on 10.1 inch way more than meet the eyes even you look up-close. And yes, in your case, the new ipad is the right choice.
sr for my bad english.

huy_gm said:
He is true. There will never be any tablet that come near the new ipad resolution (at least in this and next year). That is apple only idea about the ridiculous pixel density. 1080p on 10.1 inch way more than meet the eyes even you look up-close. And yes, in your case, the new ipad is the right choice.
sr for my bad english.
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Yeah, I'm really torn between the ipad 3 and the a700. Both have little things I want/need. Can the ipad connect to a usb drive? Or would that require a special connector? With the A700, I can just shoot jpeg+nef, plug the usb cable I to my card reader and import the photos without needing a pc. Is the ipad capable of that? I'd assume so, but I'd like a definite answer.
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monkeyluis said:
Um, yeah hammerfest did. I was only correcting them.
I wasn't addressing your needs, i was only addressing their misconceptions about the iPad. I never said you had to get the iPad.
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you really weren't correcting anything actually, i said apple in general, I wasn't specifically pointing out the ipad in my statement, but if you look at the last time they did a teardown of parts&labor costs, Apple still made more money for the device VS other non-apple products (IIRC theres a good GS3 vs iPhone one around here somewhere as a good example), but again, I was making a general statement, and you inserted the ipad into it yourself, so ill ask the same thing the other guy did: put the flamethrower down :fingers-crossed:
OP: It looks like your leaning towards the A700 or the ipad3, in which case, can I ask what caused you to remove the Transformer Infinity from the running?

Hammerfest said:
you really weren't correcting anything actually, i said apple in general, I wasn't specifically pointing out the ipad in my statement, but if you look at the last time they did a teardown of parts&labor costs, Apple still made more money for the device VS other non-apple products (IIRC theres a good GS3 vs iPhone one around here somewhere as a good example), but again, I was making a general statement, and you inserted the ipad into it yourself, so ill ask the same thing the other guy did: put the flamethrower down :fingers-crossed:
OP: It looks like your leaning towards the A700 or the ipad3, in which case, can I ask what caused you to remove the Transformer Infinity from the running?
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Oh. I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about tablets & he was mentioning the iPad 3. So silly of me to talk about it.
I'm not flaming anything, just know what you're talking about. Which now you've changed it too how much parts cost to what they charge. Sheesh.
Anyway, hope this guy finds what he needs.

Hammerfest said:
you really weren't correcting anything actually, i said apple in general, I wasn't specifically pointing out the ipad in my statement, but if you look at the last time they did a teardown of parts&labor costs, Apple still made more money for the device VS other non-apple products (IIRC theres a good GS3 vs iPhone one around here somewhere as a good example), but again, I was making a general statement, and you inserted the ipad into it yourself, so ill ask the same thing the other guy did: put the flamethrower down :fingers-crossed:
OP: It looks like your leaning towards the A700 or the ipad3, in which case, can I ask what caused you to remove the Transformer Infinity from the running?
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The Transformer is reported to be $600+,if I'm going to spend that, I'd just get the ipad. The A700 is $150 cheaper, for the same thing, minus the over clocked tegra3. No point in spending more money on a faster processor just to display pictures and occasionally use it for recreation.
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bloodrain954 said:
The Transformer is reported to be $600+,if I'm going to spend that, I'd just get the ipad. The A700 is $150 cheaper, for the same thing, minus the over clocked tegra3. No point in spending more money on a faster processor just to display pictures and occasionally use it for recreation.
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True true, I guess I tend less to focus on reported costs and more on the cost when it happens.
On that note, when the Galaxy Note 2 and Transformer Infinity hit, I will be selling every device I have and saving up all I can in order to get them, 1920x1200 is my... "techno boner" resolution (term coined by old co-workers at my attention to detail when working and the parts salvageable from systems for re-sale).

Hammerfest said:
True true, I guess I tend less to focus on reported costs and more on the cost when it happens.
On that note, when the Galaxy Note 2 and Transformer Infinity hit, I will be selling every device I have and saving up all I can in order to get them, 1920x1200 is my... "techno boner" resolution (term coined by old co-workers at my attention to detail when working and the parts salvageable from systems for re-sale).
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Well now the transformer is priced at $500, that sure makes things interesting...
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