Database Info

[Q] backup and restore

So when i move to a new version of a rom, how do i keep all my info? I was just used to backup/restore with a rom version change on cyanogenmod where i can restore and it won't overwrite the previous rom and revert changes.
Do i always have to wipe all data when uploading a new rom?
Shouldn't the nandroid backup restore everything but keep the current rom?

emoandy said:
So when i move to a new version of a rom, how do i keep all my info? I was just used to backup/restore with a rom version change on cyanogenmod where i can restore and it won't overwrite the previous rom and revert changes.
Do i always have to wipe all data when uploading a new rom?
Shouldn't the nandroid backup restore everything but keep the current rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I learned this today myself.
General rule is:
Switching ROMs? Wipe everything
Updating a ROM? Wipe cache and dalvik-cache
Installing an addon? Don't need to wipe anything

i guess that answers part of my question. the main part was when i switch roms, how do i keep all of my info? when using cyanogenmod, i could back up using nandroid backup from recovery, and restore when i installed a new rom, however it seems with some roms i cannot do this as it will overwrite changes in the new rom. how do i avoid this, how do i keep all of my data while not overwriting the new rom changes?

I'll try to answer your question, if I think I know what you mean by data. Data from ROM or data from phone/apps.
If data from phone/apps. then I would suggest Titanium Backup(Paid version) from market. Once you install a New ROM with a complete Data wipe, what ever you backed up with TB from your previous setting can be restored. This is good if you are installing a ROM not from the same dev.
Other wise if you installing a ROM from same dev, a revision, you don't have to do a wipe data.
If data from ROM, well I don't know there, never had to do it.
emoandy said:
i guess that answers part of my question. the main part was when i switch roms, how do i keep all of my info? when using cyanogenmod, i could back up using nandroid backup from recovery, and restore when i installed a new rom, however it seems with some roms i cannot do this as it will overwrite changes in the new rom. how do i avoid this, how do i keep all of my data while not overwriting the new rom changes?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

ok, so you're saying when, let's say, going from 1.0 to 1.1 of the same dev rom, just an update, i do not need to wipe data?

Yes. The only time you ever need to wipe data and cache is when you trying a ROM from a different dev.
If installing a different rom, then that's where TB comes in handy.
Side note: Also CWM ROM Manager backup utility will backup every thing if you wanted to revert back.
Dayton advice above is a good rule to follow.
There's other bits and pieces but search or ask.
edit: corrections
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA Premium App

[Q] Upgrading my rom

I got my HTC Sensation 4G last week rooted it and installed Android Revolution HD 3.0.4.
Today I noticed that there is a new version 3.1.0 and I am wondering if there any way to upgrade the rom without losing any installed apps or data.
Thanks and have a nice day.

just check ARHD's thread and see if the latest one needs a full wipe. if so, you'll lose all ur data; if not, just wipe the cache and dalvik cache, then go on flashing it, reboot, done.

If it's a small update then you could just flash it.

It is kinda small but the question is if I have to install all the apps again.

If you just flash it over an existing install then no, you only need to do a fix-permissions if you get crashes and errors. If you wipe then install then yes you will need to reinstall all your downloaded apps.

astd said:
It is kinda small but the question is if I have to install all the apps again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
If you are installing new ROM with the same base(ie 3.0.4 to 3.1.1)
Then you will not lose any settings or apps.
You will lose any mods(battery %,crt etc.)
Just go to recovery and wipe cache partition and dalvik(advanced)
and you are good to go.

[Q] how to update a rom?

i looked through the forum and didn't find this exact question so i'm sorry if it's been posted before.
basically what i'm wondering is if i have a ROM installed, let's just say one of the new ICS ones, and a new release of that ROM comes out, is there a way to upgrade to the newer version without having to install all my apps and stuff again through titanium backup? i hope that makes sense. in other words, is installing a new version of a ROM that you are already using going to be the same process as flashing a new ROM entirely? that could get annoying with newer versions of ICS seemingly coming out twice a week.
thanks in advance!

It's recommended to wipe and reflash, but I just flash over top and if there's problems I resort to wiping. Clear cache and dalvik and just flash over top, your apps will still be there. But if you do it this way, you should not report any problems
Sent from my Inspire 4G using Xparent Blue Tapatalk

Probably could have used search to find this. But typically, unless the dev say to full wipe, when an update comes out for the rom you are using you can flash the update over the older version without a full wipe. You are still required to clear cache/dalvik to do this. If anything that was working before does not work anymore after you have flashed the update over the older version, then you should go back and do a full wipe and flash the new version. I personally always full wipe when flashing a newer version.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium

It all depends on the ROM and what is updated. Seriously you have to go by what the DEV says in his thread. Some you can update without wiping and some you have to wipe. Others will automatically wipe for you. Best advice is to read the DEV's thread. They should all give you this info. And if you looked over the first few posts of his thread you really wouldn't be asking this question here.

Some mods have the cache/dalvik wipe built in, so just make sure you read through the thread for whatever mod you're trying. Wiping it twice won't hurt, but just wastes a little time.

RunnyDrOiD
I know that we have different method for rom installation but do you have any idea about RunnyDrOiD
Thanks

lgluna20 said:
I know that we have different method for rom installation but do you have any idea about RunnyDrOiD
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
really? man. I'll make this very simple for you.
1. put rom on root of sdcard
2. boot into recovery
3. wipe data, cache, dalvik cache
4. install from sdcard the zip file
5. reboot.
almost all ROMs except for the PD98IMG.zip stock ROMs are flashed with the above method. Not all ROMs require a full wipe (data, cache, dalvik cahce) when upgrading within the same ROM but it is recommended to do so to avoid any issues. If you're switching between different ROMs, it is required to do a full wipe. Search my good man.

Custom Rom, Upgrading

Hey Folks,
lets say im running CM9 version 10, and the developlers just released version 11.
I want to flash v11, do i have to backup all my data (via titaniumbackup for instance) or can i just flash the rom and continue there where i left?
And, do i have to do a full wipe, clear cache part, clear dalvik cache (via clockwork recovery) ?
regards,
mike

mike.raab said:
Hey Folks,
lets say im running CM9 version 10, and the developlers just released version 11.
I want to flash v11, do i have to backup all my data (via titaniumbackup for instance) or can i just flash the rom and continue there where i left?
And, do i have to do a full wipe, clear cache part, clear dalvik cache (via clockwork recovery) ?
regards,
mike
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Always better to backup and nandroid, and do a full wipe. That way if you run into any problems you know it will be because of something that's going on now, and not something that was left from the previous versions.
Sent from my HTC VLE_U using xda premium

mike.raab said:
Hey Folks,
lets say im running CM9 version 10, and the developlers just released version 11.
I want to flash v11, do i have to backup all my data (via titaniumbackup for instance) or can i just flash the rom and continue there where i left?
And, do i have to do a full wipe, clear cache part, clear dalvik cache (via clockwork recovery) ?
regards,
mike
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
technically you can just flash version 11 over version 10 without having to wipe or backup anything at all, everything should work because you are flashing a ROM of the same base.
however, it is always recommended that you backup (either titanium, nandroid or both) before you flash.
And also, usually wiping data is not necessary, but wiping cache and dalvik is recommended.

Pac-Man 4.2.2 Rom Question?

Hi, I am currently running stock TouchWiz 4.1.2 ROM, using CWM Recovery, I tried to install the Pac-Man Rom, but after phone rebooted it kept hanging on the PAC-MAN image with the ghosts, phone hung there for a bit, tried to reboot "removed the battery", went back to CWM Recovery, reflashed the Pac-Pam ROM and latest gaps, rebooted phone and the same thing happened,at some point it wiped out my CWM recovery, so I got fed up and reinstalled the TouchWiz factory 4.1.2 image using ODIN, had to reload all my apps and what not.
I want to give this one more try, but do not want to go through all this trouble again. I did a casche wipe and devlick cache wipe, but no data/factory wipe "heard people had success with a dirty flash routine", do I need to do a factory/data wipe for this to work.
I am not new to flashing, but have not flashed a non stock ROM yet, kind of leary after the PAC-Man fiasco, by the way what do you guys think of Cynogenmod or AOKP. Do I have to wipe all my data every time I try a new ROM. Is there a stock, pure android JB 4.2.2 ROM out there. Thanks again.

You have to wipe data/factory reset before flashing. Two different bases. One heavily nodded framework to stock(ish) won't work. Also, if you use something like titanium backup, you don't have to worry about losing things as much.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

tylerlawhon said:
You have to wipe data/factory reset before flashing. Two different bases. One heavily nodded framework to stock(ish) won't work. Also, if you use something like titanium backup, you don't have to worry about losing things as much.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So you are saying I can not flash this ROM do to it beign a 4.2.2 fro stock 4.1.2. So what ROM should I try before trying PAC-Man, I love PAC-Man

cybertec69 said:
So you are saying I can not flash this ROM do to it beign a 4.2.2 fro stock 4.1.2. So what ROM should I try before trying PAC-Man, I love PAC-Man
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He is saying do not dirty flash ROMs you MUST do a factory reset as none of these ROMs are the same. By dirty flashing you are flashing one ROM over another which is a boneheaded move as you are likely to be stuck on the bootloader. The ONLY time you should dirty flash is when you are flashing a newer version of the same ROM.

jmxc23 said:
He is saying do not dirty flash ROMs you MUST do a factory reset as none of these ROMs are the same. By dirty flashing you are flashing one ROM over another which is a boneheaded move as you are likely to be stuck on the bootloader. The ONLY time you should dirty flash is when you are flashing a newer version of the same ROM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you sir, don't be angry at me, by the way it is much appreciated.

Basically. Don't dirty flash an aosp ROM over a touchwiz and vice versa
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
---------- Post added at 10:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:23 PM ----------
Also don't dirty flash if the Android version is different.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

My advice is to do a clean flash every time, and also a full backup. Here's what I do -
- backup all apps using your choice of app - I use MyBackup, there's also Titanium, Rom Toolbox and many others
- backup all sms, call logs
- backup launcher settings
- nandroid backup
- factory reset, wipe system/boot
- make sure you don't wipe internal or external sd card
- update to latest radio or rpm if needed
- flash rom
- flash kernel if needed
- flash gapps
- setup new rom, don't let google restore apps
- install your backup app and launcher
- restore apps, sms, calls etc
- restore launcher and android system
once you get comfortable with this procedure it doesn't take long. And it guarantees a clean phone with the latest apps and new rom with no issues.

ECrispy said:
My advice is to do a clean flash every time, and also a full backup. Here's what I do -
- backup all apps using your choice of app - I use MyBackup, there's also Titanium, Rom Toolbox and many others
- backup all sms, call logs
- backup launcher settings
- nandroid backup
- factory reset, wipe system/boot
- make sure you don't wipe internal or external sd card
- update to latest radio or rpm if needed
- flash rom
- flash kernel if needed
- flash gapps
- setup new rom, don't let google restore apps
- install your backup app and launcher
- restore apps, sms, calls etc
- restore launcher and android system
once you get comfortable with this procedure it doesn't take long. And it guarantees a clean phone with the latest apps and new rom with no issues.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok everything went fine, installed the Pac-Man ROM 4.2.2. seems much smoother and faster, my first question is how do I enable car mode where all my text messages are spoken out when received, including phone calls, my other question is now my screen is more cluttered by the on screen buttons at the bottom, the back home and systems button. The full clean wipe did help, thanks again.

Please read forum rules before posting
Questions and help issues go in Q&A
Thread moved
Thank you for your cooperation
Friendly Neighborhood Moderator