i looked through the forum and didn't find this exact question so i'm sorry if it's been posted before.
basically what i'm wondering is if i have a ROM installed, let's just say one of the new ICS ones, and a new release of that ROM comes out, is there a way to upgrade to the newer version without having to install all my apps and stuff again through titanium backup? i hope that makes sense. in other words, is installing a new version of a ROM that you are already using going to be the same process as flashing a new ROM entirely? that could get annoying with newer versions of ICS seemingly coming out twice a week.
thanks in advance!
It's recommended to wipe and reflash, but I just flash over top and if there's problems I resort to wiping. Clear cache and dalvik and just flash over top, your apps will still be there. But if you do it this way, you should not report any problems
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Probably could have used search to find this. But typically, unless the dev say to full wipe, when an update comes out for the rom you are using you can flash the update over the older version without a full wipe. You are still required to clear cache/dalvik to do this. If anything that was working before does not work anymore after you have flashed the update over the older version, then you should go back and do a full wipe and flash the new version. I personally always full wipe when flashing a newer version.
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It all depends on the ROM and what is updated. Seriously you have to go by what the DEV says in his thread. Some you can update without wiping and some you have to wipe. Others will automatically wipe for you. Best advice is to read the DEV's thread. They should all give you this info. And if you looked over the first few posts of his thread you really wouldn't be asking this question here.
Some mods have the cache/dalvik wipe built in, so just make sure you read through the thread for whatever mod you're trying. Wiping it twice won't hurt, but just wastes a little time.
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I know that we have different method for rom installation but do you have any idea about RunnyDrOiD
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I know that we have different method for rom installation but do you have any idea about RunnyDrOiD
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really? man. I'll make this very simple for you.
1. put rom on root of sdcard
2. boot into recovery
3. wipe data, cache, dalvik cache
4. install from sdcard the zip file
5. reboot.
almost all ROMs except for the PD98IMG.zip stock ROMs are flashed with the above method. Not all ROMs require a full wipe (data, cache, dalvik cahce) when upgrading within the same ROM but it is recommended to do so to avoid any issues. If you're switching between different ROMs, it is required to do a full wipe. Search my good man.
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Sorry, this might be kind of a noob question, but i see build 23 is out for CM7. If i flash the new build, do i need to totally set up my phone all over again?
My last experience with CM ROMS on my G1 was that if you are upgrading to a new CM version a wipe is recommended but not necessary. However, if you do not wipe and experience problems it will be the first troubleshooting step suggested to you
YMMV on the MT4G builds, but that's how it worked with the G1
Genocaust said:
My last experience with CM ROMS on my G1 was that if you are upgrading to a new CM version a wipe is recommended but not necessary. However, if you do not wipe and experience problems it will be the first troubleshooting step suggested to you
YMMV on the MT4G builds, but that's how it worked with the G1
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Thanks. Ugh, i didn't even think about that when i flashed CM7. Seems like it is a real PITA to wipe every time and have to configure all the settings again.
I had good success on my move from stock -> Ice Glacier (un-crapwared stock) by making a full TitaniumBackup of -everything- and then restoring it app by app (along with settings). They are similarly built ROMs, and it worked well for me with minimal downtime. You may want to consider trying that if you are just changing between CM flavors, as I would presume they are mostly backward compatible with a few fixes/features here and there. At worst it may leave you with just system settings to redo.
When i flash a new CMNightly all i do is wipe the cache and the Dalv/Cache and i've yet to have any problems. If you are worried about wiping and restoring everything. you might want to look into Titanium Backup.
thanks. I flashed without wiping and it seems to be fine. I was worried more about my system settings than apps.
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thanks. I flashed without wiping and it seems to be fine. I was worried more about my system settings than apps.
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Wiping the Cache and wiping the Dalv Cache will not reset the phone. Only a full wipe will do that.
To my understanding, a "full wipe/factory reset" in Clockwork Recovery will only clear /cache, /data, and Davlik cache. /boot and /system will not be touched. Some users moving from Froyo to Gingerbread have had problems with /system, and a wipe of /system (from within Clockwork Recovery or from adb) has solved some problems for people, beyond what a full wipe can do. Discussions are in the CM7 thread in the Application Development subforum.
I know, most people refuse to search for anything.
i usually wipe the Cache and the Dalv Cache when updating nightlies, but several times i've wiped nothing and just flashed the new one on top and its always worked just fine for me
I always do a full wipe when installing roms. Setting it up each time makes me think its a whole new phone which is cool.
You do NOT need to wipe when upgrading to a new version of the same ROM. I've probably flashed 10 no-wipe updates of cm7 on my phone and it's still perfectly stable, no force closes or anything.
Boot into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache before flashing. Give it a few mins to "settle" on the first boot, reboot again and you're good to go.
Worst-case scenario you'll just wipe and reflash anyway, and nothing lost.
I've searched out and read alot about rooting. I've down loaded the required files. Read and re-read as much as I can about rooting, flashing, recovery etc. I do not claim to understand it all. I'm still in my Buyers Remorse period so I won't root until thats over.
I've read from end to all, all the Custom ROM threads on this forum. EaglesBlood makes the comment...Wipe wipe wipe ....and he lists several things to wipe.
I've gone back into rooting and flashing guides and cannot find anything about Wipe.
I rooted only 1 time in my life....on the Nexus One....but don't recall using any wipe command.
I searched over in the Android forum for any kind of guide that would take me from Root to recovery to flash to update....and answer the wipe question for me.
I've flashed and wiped for years on Windows Phone....and spent the time in advance to understand the process and the steps ...before I attempted it. Want to be as sure with Android...before I step in...because...lord help me....if I brick the device, I'm gonna have to go to a Sensation....because G2x's aren't back on the market yet....and I really don't want to do that....I'll have to take back everything I said about the sensation if I do....
Does anyone know of a guide that goes from root to recovery to backup to flash and includes the tips and tricks like....wipe, when to wipe, etc?
TIA
If you want to root there is a topic in dev section called superoneclick
For clockworkmod(backups, restores, rom and kernel flashing) check out the nvflash topic in dev section
For all roms there is usually instructions as what exactly to do in steps.
Hope this helps. I would post links if I was on my computer sorry.
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Also this topic should probably be in the Q&A section
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I will help answer your question. When you root an android phone you are installing files that give you the ability to modify your rom, and recovery. These files are stored in a separate partition on your phone that is hidden from the phone you will not need to wipe when just rooting your phone.
If you want to install a custom rom you will need to first flash a different recovery for the g2x you need to use nvflash. This process once again you will not need to wipe the phone. Whit this recovery you can make backups of you phone and does not require a custom rom.
If you want to then install a custom rom use the new recovery to make a backup first that way you can restore your phone if anything goes wrong.
Now after your back up and after down loading what ever new rom you wish to use it is always suggested to wipe your phone. Wiping clears out all your personal files from you rom partion making it easier for the new rom to install the new files needed for the rom and to modify any old ones.
I hope this helps explain and clears ups your questions.
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Moved to proper forum.
There are a couple of options in the recovery menu that let you wipe data. When I boot into clockwork mod recovery you can choose to wipe all user data, cache, dalvik cache, and battery statistics. They're located under different sub menus but they're all there. When your ready to flash a rom make sure you have a backup, then wipe all user data 2 or 3 times (thus the Wipe Wipe Wipe you were referring to), wipe dalvik cache, and then flash. Some people recommend wiping battery statistics too but I don't know if that's necessary every time. Once you've wiped everything sufficiently then flash your rom. Wiping just ensures you're starting with a clean slate.
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Thanks All,
Right after I posted this, I found unlockr.com. Not that he looks like 'The' expert, he puts everyones stuff together in the same place. I saw where the WIPE WIPE WIPE comes from.
I had already used this superone click thread on this forum to gather the files...but wanted to see the steps in action....the vids on the unlockr site show me the steps quite nicely.
thanks all for the feedback.!!
"Wipe, wipe, wipe" refers to wipe the data, cache, and Dalvik cache, which is done via CWM.
I got my HTC Sensation 4G last week rooted it and installed Android Revolution HD 3.0.4.
Today I noticed that there is a new version 3.1.0 and I am wondering if there any way to upgrade the rom without losing any installed apps or data.
Thanks and have a nice day.
just check ARHD's thread and see if the latest one needs a full wipe. if so, you'll lose all ur data; if not, just wipe the cache and dalvik cache, then go on flashing it, reboot, done.
If it's a small update then you could just flash it.
It is kinda small but the question is if I have to install all the apps again.
If you just flash it over an existing install then no, you only need to do a fix-permissions if you get crashes and errors. If you wipe then install then yes you will need to reinstall all your downloaded apps.
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It is kinda small but the question is if I have to install all the apps again.
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Hi,
If you are installing new ROM with the same base(ie 3.0.4 to 3.1.1)
Then you will not lose any settings or apps.
You will lose any mods(battery %,crt etc.)
Just go to recovery and wipe cache partition and dalvik(advanced)
and you are good to go.
I am loving this rom but I am nervous if and when the developer comes out with a new version.
When the newer version comes out how do I update to the newest version? Do I have to erase everything and start over again? Thanks so much!
well if you installed stock ROM, you will probably recieve an update without need to delete anything, but if you used custom ICS rom like CM than you will have to update it manually...
I believe i was clear!
thanks but I was talking about when the developer of the custom rom has a newer version. Wondering if there is an easy way to update.
download it, put it on phone, and just apply it using CW recovery, if its same rom but new versiom, for example CM9 v19 and you want to put CM9 v20 than in most cases you just apply it and it should work, but its always good practice to make backup before any ROM update...use titanium backup or something similar
so can I just wipe cache and dalvik cash then install?
Will my home screen be the same?
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so can I just wipe cache and dalvik cash then install?
Will my home screen be the same?
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In most cases, you can clear caches, and flash over. I went from 32 to 43 without wiping, and have no issues. In fact, it is my main fallback backup when testing new ROMs. By doing this, all previous settings will stay.
If there is a major overhaul, though, you will want to wipe if you run into force closes. So let's say Google releases 4.0.4 tomorrow and aosp releases a new ROM update based on it. In most cases, you will want to full wipe and clean install. This is where titanium backup pro is very useful.
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I'm currently using SkyRocket ICS (2.3.5 Gingerbread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377087
and everything is awesome but my phone signal, att logo, wifi, notifications, doesnt appear on the top of the phone so i want to try out another ROM. This one in particular, NexusMod 4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426590
Do I just flash the new ROM in CWM recovery like I did to get my first ROM? Or is there more to it?
Thanks!
That's a problem on your end, that rom is flawless and you flashed it wrong
This is the guide I used to flash the ROM
http://www.traemcneely.com/2011/12/27/install-custom-rom-at-ciq-removed-short-review-instructions/
I compared it with ones on xda and it was identical but more noob friendly which I preferred. I dont know what I couldve possibly done wrong.. I followed EVERYTHING step by step. I love everything about this ROM except this one major annoyance.
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This is the guide I used to flash the ROM
http://www.traemcneely.com/2011/12/27/install-custom-rom-at-ciq-removed-short-review-instructions/
I compared it with ones on xda and it was identical but more noob friendly which I preferred. I dont know what I couldve possibly done wrong.. I followed EVERYTHING step by step. I love everything about this ROM except this one major annoyance.
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It was a bad flash or bad download. Try to redownload and check the md5, then simply reflash it making sure to follow instructions and wipe properly
Sorry, but may I ask what an md5 is? And the specific ROM I want
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377087
doesn't provide instructions, at least that I know of so I followed this guide
http://www.traemcneely.com/2011/12/27/install-custom-rom-at-ciq-removed-short-review-instructions/
Only problem I can think of that I made was flashing the RC 6.75 Stock ROM and then wiping cache partition and flashing the 7.4 Stock Nonewipeupdate right afterwards which is exactly what the guide asked for. Was I suppose to reboot after flashing the stock RC 6.75 ROM before flashing the 7.4 Stock Nonewipeupdate?
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Sorry, but may I ask what an md5 is? And the specific ROM I want
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377087
doesn't provide instructions, at least that I know of so I followed this guide
http://www.traemcneely.com/2011/12/27/install-custom-rom-at-ciq-removed-short-review-instructions/
Only problem I can think of that I made was flashing the RC 6.75 Stock ROM and then wiping cache partition and flashing the 7.4 Stock Nonewipeupdate right afterwards which is exactly what the guide asked for. Was I suppose to reboot after flashing the stock RC 6.75 ROM before flashing the 7.4 Stock Nonewipeupdate?
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You need to flash the base and boot it before flashing an update, like you said.
Before flashing any rom this is a general procedure
wipe data/factory reset 3x
Wipe cache 3x
wipe dalvik cache 3x
format system 3x
flash radio if need be
flash rom
reboot
dont touch phone for at least 10 mins
set up basics
if it has an update
reboot to cwm
wipe cache 3x
wipe dalvik cache 3x
flash update
reboot
Okk. ONE LAST question. The SkyRocket ICS (2.3.5 Gingerbread) ROM I'm using doesn't have or provide a radio file to DL on the page which I linked earlier. Does that imply that this particular ROM doesn't need it? Or am I suppose to find a radio to flash before flashing the ROM and update?
Thanks alot for your help/advice!! Really appreciate it!
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Okk. ONE LAST question. The SkyRocket ICS (2.3.5 Gingerbread) ROM I'm using doesn't have or provide a radio file to DL on the page which I linked earlier. Does that imply that this particular ROM doesn't need it? Or am I suppose to find a radio to flash before flashing the ROM and update?
Thanks alot for your help/advice!! Really appreciate it!
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In about phone, what does it say for baseband? Kj2 is the 2.3.5 stock radio
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If the radio you're using is working and you're flashing from gb to gb, you shouldn't have to worry about the radio. You'll still have the same one. Radios flash separately from roms. I don't think you'll NEED to flash a new radio unless you change to an ICS rom.
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Android version 2.3.6
Baseband version I727UCKJ2
Kernal version 2.6.35.11+
Build number Sky-ICS RC7.4 Stock
When I purchased my phone and after I rooted it, I was v2.3.5 but after I flashed my first ROM (which is my current ROM) the android version changed to v2.3.6. So if KJ2 is the stock radio for v2.3.5 is there a possibility my problem of not having the att logo and wifi signal on the top of my phone due to not having the correct radio for this ROM? or for v2.3.6 in general? Or is it from what you said earlier, my flashing process was wrong? Or a mixture or not having the correct radio and flashing wrong?
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If the radio you're using is working and you're flashing from gb to gb, you shouldn't have to worry about the radio. You'll still have the same one. Radios flash separately from roms. I don't think you'll NEED to flash a new radio unless you change to an ICS rom.
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Well, I don't really know whether or not the radio is working. I suppose in my case it is working since I am able to recieve and make calls, text, and go on the web. However, I am unable to see the att logo, wifi/cell signal on the top of my phone. I don't know if this problem has anything to do with the radio though. Sorry for my lack of understanding..
I'm assuming the problem is more my fault in terms of not flashing correctly. I have no idea whether or not I need a separate radio for this ROM.
Sounds like a systemui /frame work problem
Wipe data/cache/dalvik
Reflash
Fully boot
Shutdown
Flash update
Wipe dalvik
Reboot.
The signals at the top wouldn't be affected by he radio. You would most likely get them back if you reflashed your from or flashed another. As long as it's a 2.3.5 or 2.3.6. And also follow the instructions (usually pretty standard, wipe data factory reset a few times, wipe cache partition, advanced, wipe dalvik cache a few times, go back, mounts and storage, format system a few times. Then install zip from SD card) oh and always backup first and make sure you can restore the backup. But yeah if you can make calls and use internet, your radio should be OK.
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Sounds like a systemui /frame work problem
Wipe data/cache/dalvik
Reflash
Fully boot
Shutdown
Flash update
Wipe dalvik
Reboot.
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Thanks! That's what I figured the problem to be JK.
I'll give it go and hope for the best this time around.
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The signals at the top wouldn't be affected by he radio. You would most likely get them back if you reflashed your from or flashed another. As long as it's a 2.3.5 or 2.3.6. And also follow the instructions (usually pretty standard, wipe data factory reset a few times, wipe cache partition, advanced, wipe dalvik cache a few times, go back, mounts and storage, format system a few times. Then install zip from SD card) oh and always backup first and make sure you can restore the backup. But yeah if you can make calls and use internet, your radio should be OK.
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Alright thanks alot for your guide and clarification. Still learning day by day
penance said:
Alright thanks alot for your guide and clarification. Still learning day by day
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Just do this and skip the radio step
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You need to flash the base and boot it before flashing an update, like you said.
Before flashing any rom this is a general procedure
wipe data/factory reset 3x
Wipe cache 3x
wipe dalvik cache 3x
format system 3x
flash radio if need be
flash rom
reboot
dont touch phone for at least 10 mins
set up basics
if it has an update
reboot to cwm
wipe cache 3x
wipe dalvik cache 3x
flash update
reboot
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Not sure the deal with your cell/wifi signals not showing in your status bar, but, the carrier logo could have been removed in the ROM itself.
I would try out the nexusmod zero ics I'm running it now and I like it a lot more than nexus 4. Also when I went from the from you are on now I had to do a super wipe before I could get the ics rom to work without bootloop
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