Tablets - myTouch 4G General

Because I respect the Glacier community so much I pose this topic here.
I'm looking to find a cheap, maybe older, tablet to root and pimp like we have for our phone.
It will mainly be used for presentation purposes...video, slide shows, etc.
All ideas are welcomed, thank you.
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Launchpad McQuack said:
Because I respect the Glacier community so much I pose this topic here.
I'm looking to find a cheap, maybe older, tablet to root and pimp like we have for our phone.
It will mainly be used for presentation purposes...video, slide shows, etc.
All ideas are welcomed, thank you.
Tapatalking from my Dark Unicorn Glacier
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I am gonna get majorly flamed, but honestly, try to get an ipad. I love android an everything but android tablets aren't well enough baked at this point. Try getting a refurb ipad 2. I have the iPad and i love it, expecially for presentations and such.

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I am gonna get majorly flamed, but honestly, try to get an ipad. I love android an everything but android tablets aren't well enough baked at this point. Try getting a refurb ipad 2. I have the iPad and i love it, expecially for presentations and such.
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I disagree. A refurbished Motorola Xoom might be the best bang for the buck you can get. Newegg had NEW Xoom tablets for just 300$ last weekend.
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THEindian said:
I am gonna get majorly flamed, but honestly, try to get an ipad. I love android an everything but android tablets aren't well enough baked at this point. Try getting a refurb ipad 2. I have the iPad and i love it, expecially for presentations and such.
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I disagree. A refurbished Motorola Xoom might be the best bang for the buck you can get. Newegg had NEW Xoom tablets for just 300$ last weekend.
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Both of these tablets would do. Honestly, I'd side with THEindian right now. iPad is a great device, and you'd be able to enjoy the best of both worlds with Android and iOS

Thanks all. I guess I should have really been specific in that I'm only considering Android due to rootability.....and I dislike the iMachine.
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I have a tf101. Asus makes some beastly tabs but they have bugs and stuff. Like the stock ics firmware causes SoDs but there's an awesome italian kernel dev named guevor that pretty much fixed it and its basically his job working on the kernel.
I've heard the Acer tabs are alright, I saw an A200 for 200 somewhere. There's also a new Acer tab with a 1080p screen coming out soon for 450 and there's also the Asus tf700 coming out that's an ipad 3 killer in the benchmarks.
But if you want to be cheap like me, get a tegra 2 tab. The application of the tegra 3 processing power isn't a huge thing at the moment.
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Launchpad McQuack said:
Thanks all. I guess I should have really been specific in that I'm only considering Android due to rootability.....and I dislike the iMachine.
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It really depends on your price range. I am gonna make a last pitch for the ipad, it is iOS but you can jailbreak it an stuff. It has WAY better apps and more that are optimized for the screen. I was at the best buy mobile and i could barely figure out how to use the android tablet. You have an issue if the kernel dev can't navigate through the OS to find the settings button. Anyway, if you are dead set on android, google is expected to release a $200 dollar nexus tablet built by asus w/ tegra 3. That will probably be your best bet.

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It really depends on your price range. I am gonna make a last pitch for the ipad, it is iOS but you can jailbreak it an stuff. It has WAY better apps and more that are optimized for the screen. I was at the best buy mobile and i could barely figure out how to use the android tablet. You have an issue if the kernel dev can't navigate through the OS to find the settings button. Anyway, if you are dead set on android, google is expected to release a $200 dollar nexus tablet built by asus w/ tegra 3. That will probably be your best bet.
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Thanks y'all.
Yeah, been reading up on tabs all day and found some info on the nexus. I wish some details would be released on what kind of functionality it will have, but the price is definitely right along with processing power. I can live without a camera, but GPS might be nice to have in a 7" tablet. Hopefully the info goes viral after I/O next weekend....and ordering one doesn't require a lottery.
Anyone have any experience with the Dell Streak? I've found very mixed reviews out there. Super poor reviews on the Lenovo and Vizio. Seems Samsung, Acer, and Asus have best reviews and fair pricing on 7" tabs...I'm trying to stay under $250, goal being under $200.
I really just can't support anything i, even though I know the products are nice and jailbreakable. I bleed Android for better or worse. Started with a G1, had original chrome beta, and except for Wave and Drive failing, I have never been disappointed by anything g. I've talked and fought so much against iSheep and the iMachine I might get crucified if I showed up with an iPad ;-)
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Launchpad McQuack said:
Thanks y'all.
Yeah, been reading up on tabs all day and found some info on the nexus. I wish some details would be released on what kind of functionality it will have, but the price is definitely right along with processing power. I can live without a camera, but GPS might be nice to have in a 7" tablet. Hopefully the info goes viral after I/O next weekend....and ordering one doesn't require a lottery.
Anyone have any experience with the Dell Streak? I've found very mixed reviews out there. Super poor reviews on the Lenovo and Vizio. Seems Samsung, Acer, and Asus have best reviews and fair pricing on 7" tabs...I'm trying to stay under $250, goal being under $200.
I really just can't support anything i, even though I know the products are nice and jailbreakable. I bleed Android for better or worse. Started with a G1, had original chrome beta, and except for Wave and Drive failing, I have never been disappointed by anything g. I've talked and fought so much against iSheep and the iMachine I might get crucified if I showed up with an iPad ;-)
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Don't get the ipad. My dad has an ipad 2, doesn't do **** with it... I jail broke it, still doesn't do **** with it.
I mess with it myself and I get so bored with it. Yea its all nice and smooth and user friendly but it doesn't have the functionality of android.
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Launchpad McQuack said:
Thanks y'all.
Yeah, been reading up on tabs all day and found some info on the nexus. I wish some details would be released on what kind of functionality it will have, but the price is definitely right along with processing power. I can live without a camera, but GPS might be nice to have in a 7" tablet. Hopefully the info goes viral after I/O next weekend....and ordering one doesn't require a lottery.
Anyone have any experience with the Dell Streak? I've found very mixed reviews out there. Super poor reviews on the Lenovo and Vizio. Seems Samsung, Acer, and Asus have best reviews and fair pricing on 7" tabs...I'm trying to stay under $250, goal being under $200.
I really just can't support anything i, even though I know the products are nice and jailbreakable. I bleed Android for better or worse. Started with a G1, had original chrome beta, and except for Wave and Drive failing, I have never been disappointed by anything g. I've talked and fought so much against iSheep and the iMachine I might get crucified if I showed up with an iPad ;-)
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i got a Dell Streak 7, if you want my honest opinion, it's bad. the battery life sucks on this thing, and it took me a whole day just to upgrade to honeycomb. and they literally have NO development support AT ALL and worst of all, the thing comes with a Tegra 2 processor but only 512 MB of RAM. WTF
IMO, Dell tablets aren't worth it.
my dad has an Acer A500 (10 inch) and a friend of mine has the Acer A100 (7 inch). Acer is okay i guess, much better than Dell, but occasional lag on both devices. not sure if it's because of the way my dad and friend uses them, but battery life on the A100 is bad as well. A500 is okay, about 2 days moderate usage.
i think you should either wait for the Nexus or go for ASUS. i hear great things about those tablets, and they seem very great as well. and they've got HUGE development going on over there.
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saranhai said:
i got a Dell Streak 7, if you want my honest opinion, it's bad. the battery life sucks on this thing, and it took me a whole day just to upgrade to honeycomb. and they literally have NO development support AT ALL and worst of all, the thing comes with a Tegra 2 processor but only 512 MB of RAM. WTF
IMO, Dell tablets aren't worth it.
my dad has an Acer A500 (10 inch) and a friend of mine has the Acer A100 (7 inch). Acer is okay i guess, much better than Dell, but occasional lag on both devices. not sure if it's because of the way my dad and friend uses them, but battery life on the A100 is bad as well. A500 is okay, about 2 days moderate usage.
i think you should either wait for the Nexus or go for ASUS. i hear great things about those tablets, and they seem very great as well. and they've got HUGE development going on over there.
-Saranhai
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If their devs are anywhere as good as we have here for the Glacier, then I'm all in thanks for the Dell review.
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For the best value for your money, I'd suggest the Skypad A2. For just over $100, you get 7" ICS ready tablet, pre-rooted, with HDMI out. How many sub- $200 tablets can boast that? There are a couple of great reviews on Amazon and a handful of custom ROMs.
If you're looking for value, I'd recommend it. I've had no issues and loved it so far. If you're willing to spend the extra couple hundred, you can do much better.
http://www.amazon.com/SKYTEX-Skypad...qid=1340031659&sr=1-1&keywords=skypad+alpha+2

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For the best value for your money, I'd suggest the Skypad A2. For just over $100, you get 7" ICS ready tablet, pre-rooted, with HDMI out. How many sub- $200 tablets can boast that? There are a couple of great reviews on Amazon and a handful of custom ROMs.
If you're looking for value, I'd recommend it. I've had no issues and loved it so far. If you're willing to spend the extra couple hundred, you can do much better.
http://www.amazon.com/SKYTEX-Skypad...qid=1340031659&sr=1-1&keywords=skypad+alpha+2
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The cheaper tabs only have 512mb RAM, am I correct? My mom's nook tab has 1gb of RAM and a dual core processor, so I refuse to have anything less powerful than my mom's nook tablet.
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
The cheaper tabs only have 512mb RAM, am I correct? My mom's nook tab has 1gb of RAM and a dual core processor, so I refuse to have anything less powerful than my mom's nook tablet.
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Yes, the screen resolution and ram seem to be the biggest limiting factor for price. the Asus nexus looks to change this however with serious processing/ram power and a decent screen for ~$200....so the hype talk says. We'll see what happens after I/O this weekend. Bit I agree, for me 1Gb ram will likely be mandatory for good presentations.
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
The cheaper tabs only have 512mb RAM, am I correct? My mom's nook tab has 1gb of RAM and a dual core processor, so I refuse to have anything less powerful than my mom's nook tablet.
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Yes, low RAM, but if you're looking for value, how important is that? The 1.2 GHz processor does great with it, and I've regularly used PSX4Droid with no issues. I can't think of anything more processor intensive than that.
It's all about what you need/want. Personally, I'd much rather have the HDMI out and ICS over a nook.

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Yes, low RAM, but if you're looking for value, how important is that? The 1.2 GHz processor does great with it, and I've regularly used PSX4Droid with no issues. I can't think of anything more processor intensive than that.
It's all about what you need/want. Personally, I'd much rather have the HDMI out and ICS over a nook.
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Is that 1.2 single core? What about screen res?
I believe everything should still run smooth on devices with specs similar to those as this phone can too.
I bought fpse, and it actually runs smoother on this tablet if i enable it to use only one core. Lol
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
Is that 1.2 single core? What about screen res?
I believe everything should still run smooth on devices with specs similar to those as this phone can too.
I bought fpse, and it actually runs smoother on this tablet if i enable it to use only one core. Lol
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Yes, it's a single core. The res is average at best, since it's a 7" WVGA (800x480). It's pretty necessary to use the HDMI out, which gives full 1080p res.
There is no way it can compare to more expensive tablets, but it's something I could throw away tomorrow and not feel bad about losing.

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Yes, it's a single core. The res is average at best, since it's a 7" WVGA (800x480). It's pretty necessary to use the HDMI out, which gives full 1080p res.
There is no way it can compare to more expensive tablets, but it's something I could throw away tomorrow and not feel bad about losing.
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That's pretty sweet. That's something you could give to a child for a toy or whatever, though some parents these days (some I know personally) buy their children iDevices...even the ipad -_-
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
That's pretty sweet. That's something you could give to a child for a toy or whatever, though some parents these days (some I know personally) buy their children iDevices...even the ipad -_-
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Exactly. it's something I could literally throw to my 4 year old nephew and not think twice about. A tablet was something I couldn't justify since I have a work laptop and personal one, but the price was too difficult to pass up.
Sadly, I always get the question, oohh, is that an iPad?

Not to rain on the parade but skypad? Never heard of the brand, stick with the big guns bro
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Nook Color vs G-Tab?

Which is better the nook color or gtab? I'm contemplating between these two tablets to get. Please post here which android tablet I should get and why. Thanks.
Go with the G-Tablet. While the nook is awesome, it's honestly sub par as a tablet. I know first hand. My main gripes, lost wi-fi all the time, no bluetooth, no gps.
I think the price bump is worth all of that on the g-tab.
Thanks.
Well bump!
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Nook looks better
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Bump...I need some opinions before I buy ....
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G-Tab
Better specs, it has the ability to run honeycomb (not sure if it comes with it but I'm sure there are ROMs) and overall worth it.
Nook Color is a good tablet if you can't afford anything else but if you can afford to get the G-Tab, get it.
http://www.viewsonic.com/gtablet/spec.htm
Assuming, this is the G-Tab
I would get a GTAB simply because of the Mods. There are so many owners with a GTAB now due to the price difference compared to the other similar alternative tablets that the XDA community forum for GTAB has a large amount of knoweledge based information that you can take advantage of. GTAB can be modified in so many different ways. I can't speak for Nook cause I don't own one but I own a GTAB and I was able to wipe out the stock Froyo ROM and flashed a Custom Cyanaogen ROM based on Gingerbread 2.3 which also roots the tab. It runs Adobe Flash. I did an Android Market Hack to be able to download from Marketplace. I did a Netflix Hack to be able to stream directly from my GTAB even though Netflix currently doesn't support this Tablet.
I've read also that you can use the blutooth for add-on keyboard, mouse, gamepad, and GPS. It also has an HDMI dock that you purchase separetly which will allow you to connect to a TV and has front facing camera but only 1.5 Mp with built in mic and wifi is very good that can connect 802.11 B/G/N.
I like my GTab a lot...my only complaint is that I don't really need a 10" tablet (which I didn't realize until I already purchased it...but oh well).
Consider getting the Galaxy Tab P1000. Good wifi, GPS, 3g, telephony, decent GPU (SGX540), cpu is very moddable (people have been doing undervolting by 200mV and while overclocking to 1.4). You can undervolt the display, huge battery life, etc. etc. etc.
I'm mentioning this because I'm thinking you'd be interested in a tablet of this size if you are interested in nook color.
Got the nook color because they gave me a great deal. Brand new nook color + case and I got to save a lot of money also. I rooted it and flashed phiremod since I have it on my vibrant and tried it on the hd2.
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Got the nook color because they gave me a great deal. Brand new nook color + case and I got to save a lot of money also. I rooted it and flashed phiremod since I have it on my vibrant and tried it on the hd2.
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i would of said the new viewsonic tablet that will come out at the end of the month same price and better specs i guess look it up its worth it to atleast look it up.
the nook is a great choice though i hope your happy with it!
The NC is totally worth it. Best viewing angles as well, was gonna write a long paragraph but you already made your choice.
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Which is better the nook color or gtab? I'm contemplating between these two tablets to get. Please post here which android tablet I should get and why. Thanks.
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G TAB! Its like picking a xoom over a samsung tab.
Ofcourse if you got atleast $520 to blow
edit: wrong gTab...id take the nook color
sangemaru said:
Consider getting the Galaxy Tab P1000. Good wifi, GPS, 3g, telephony, decent GPU (SGX540), cpu is very moddable (people have been doing undervolting by 200mV and while overclocking to 1.4). You can undervolt the display, huge battery life, etc. etc. etc.
I'm mentioning this because I'm thinking you'd be interested in a tablet of this size if you are interested in nook color.
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I got Galaxy Tab and I like it very much.
I'm using now android 2.3.3 in it now

buying Tablets

Can someone suggest a good tablet for gaming so far the transformer is something that caught my eye. seemed good I have to spend 800 on a tab tom for work so I need one that will have a strong proccessor cause its gonna get ran hard with games. Best buy was no help they didnt know the tablets were duel core or anything about tegra please help cause I don't want to regret my purchase cause of lack of knowledge about the tablets . I looked online but that don't really help, cause most of them got the same specs but im pretty sure theres a difference experience with them all.
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Never bought one but I'd say if you want games wait for quad core tablets . Dual core ones are nice but tegra 3 will be beast
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I am actually looking for a tablet too, kinda a birthday present for my mom - i would like it to be able to run honeycomb on it just coz i think the handling is more intuitive - and of course if it would cost like 2$ that would be great (just kidding) but actually a cheap one would do it - the one i have my eyes on now is the adam but does anyone have any advise on that?
@Zeze I would recommend getting a 7in tablet for a parent. My mom and dad both have 7in tablets and find them to be the perfect size. They currently have a galaxy tab (original) and a rooted cm7 nook.
I haven't looked into tabs much in the last few months, but based on a quick look through I would say the iconia 8gb 7in model would be a good choice, then just add the micro sd card of your choice.
Plus I think its the cheapest honeycomb tablet out there (usually around 300-330$)
I would strongly advise against the Adam. In my experience the build quality is kinda lacking. Choice is yours tho. If you didn't want the 7in iconia, they do have a 10in for 350$. I'm biased towards the xoom since I own one. But if you're looking for something cheap the iconia is definitely the way to go. I don't know what your parents use would be for a tablet, but if its moostly reading and browsing have you considered the new kindle fire?
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I'd recommend waiting if you're gonna be playing games. If you do need it RIGHT NOW. Then you can't really go wrong with anything made by Samsung, Motorola, Asus, or Acer. Personally I would stay with Samsung or Motorola, but that's device ownership bias. In the end they all basically have the same specs, just different aesthetics. If you had a few in mind we could go over their independent differences if you would like?
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you should have bhought the HP TOUCHPAD!
I know this was a troll post, but he did say he wanted to hardcore play games
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Nexus prime?

do you guys think it would be a good idea to get a nexus prime?
Yes
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yup, if it comes in AWS
So finally a phone you guys think is worth switching to?
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So finally a phone you guys think is worth switching to?
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Only if T-Mobile isn't cut out of the loop again and that curve on the screen isn't so insanely exaggerated as the teaser makes it appear to be.
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Only if T-Mobile isn't cut out of the loop again
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Nexus 1 and the Nexus S launched with T-Mobile and AWS before anyone else, not sure how they got "cut out of the loop"
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Nexus 1 and the Nexus S launched with T-Mobile and AWS before anyone else, not sure how they got "cut out of the loop"
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The Nexus S 4G (which wasn't really different), so I did do a bit of keyboard-in-mouth, for a minute there I did forget the Nexus S came out on T-Mobile first. Tired.
I came from the Nexus One, bought the G2x off-contract, specically to be able to pick up the Nexus Prime at a discount.
I just hope the nexus prime won't disappoint. Rumors on specs are mixed. The qualcomm chips in the Tmo SG2 and Amaze are meh. Also 5mp camera is meh.... other specs say it'll have the Exynos chipset and 8mp cam. Some say Verizon will get it first others say T-Mobile. Verizon has the Droid Prime with similar specs already and aren't ones to keep it clean with Android.
Either way, if the specs are worthwhile over the G2x, I'll grab it.
Best solution for me personally would be Verizon with sweet specs as my old work blackberry needs upgraded and I set up our new exchange to work properly so my company is allowing Android sets now... meaning I can kill my $70 personal T-Mobile line, sell my G2x and profit.
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I honestly don't think it's that much of an upgrade of our G2x's. Our phone is still up to par with alot of the phones out there now.. Once we get ICS on this thing, we should be fine.
Will it work on at&t?
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Yeah. I think it'll get more development support and the devs won't have to worry about nvidia giving up the source codes.
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The Prime looks nice but I plan on holding onto my G2x until the phone hits at least the one year mark if not more to see what's coming next spring and summer. Quad core phones anyone?
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I know everyone wants the latest and greatest, but sometimes it's a bit overkill. Unless you have a good job with 500+ bucks to throw I don't see why we should be running to get the Prime when you already have a Tegra 2 Dual core device. Nothing can even tough this device yet.
It'd be hard for me to dump my dual core device for another dual core. At this point might as well wait for whatever the next gen quads come out next year. And once that happens, I don't even know what we'd do with a quad core lol.
Well... We'd buy more batteries, of course.
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Well... We'd buy more batteries, of course.
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Lol, I seriously think they should just take a break on the progression of processors, screens, GPU's, etc. and use that time and man power in advancing the technology of battery's... That's literally the only Achilles heel that even the best smartphone's have these days.
At this point, I'd rather have the creation of a 5,000 mAH battery with out changing it's size than a quad core processor.
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Lol, I seriously think they should just take a break on the progression of processors, screens, GPU's, etc. and use that time and man power in advancing the technology of battery's... That's literally the only Achilles heel that even the best smartphone's have these days.
At this point, I'd rather have the creation of a 5,000 mAH battery with out changing it's size than a quad core processor.
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Agreed ten fold. I'm waiting til the Nexus Double Prime before I plan to upgrade. This phone is doing just fine, and has a very nice set of developers working on it for us.
If they did make quad core phones, I bet the battery life would be at least 20% worse than now. When I'm not even getting super amazing battery life to begin with, it might be a problem.
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I honestly don't think it's that much of an upgrade of our G2x's. Our phone is still up to par with alot of the phones out there now.. Once we get ICS on this thing, we should be fine.
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Yeah, main difference between the two will be updates. Something the G2X will probably never officially see. After the half ass 2.3 update we got I'm pretty much over it.
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I really don't see the point of quad core phones; unless Google does something unbelievable with Jelly Bean that needs an insane amount of processing, nothing a smartphone does needs that much. Hell, dual core isn't even that necessary unless you run a lot of 3D stuff.
There is such a thing as overkill people. I'd like to see phone manufactorers declare the smartphone as it exists now finished and start working on some new innovations that would make better hardware necessary. 3D screen ala Nintendo 3DS with FFC capable of eye-tracking to orient the 3D so you see it at any angle?
While I agree that the G2x can hold its own, I do miss owning a nexus device. My friend still has his Nexus One and running official software we can only get via custom roms.
My reasoning to grabbing the Nexus Prime IF if launches on Verizon is so my work can pay for it. Unfortunately I heard Verizon is launching the Galaxy Prime.... which is similar but not the nexus prime backed by Google.
Well just have to wait until Tuesday. All the rumors running around its hard to make any reasonable decision.
If Verizon gets gimped on Google support then I'll keep my G2x for a long while.
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Agreed. My work is on sprint and I am waiting to see if it launches on sprint. If it does, I'll pick it up. If not, either sii or stay on g2x. It looks to me that the prime is going to launch on everyone but sprint.
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Why Would You Upgrade?

Alright guys this is becoming ridiculous, theres like 20 posts about wether or not you should buy the new transformer. Ok, you want the latest and greatest? Then stop bugging other people about it.
I love to browse this forum about my device, TF101, I do not want to hear about the Transformer Prime. Go post in the XDA general forum and clutter that section.
Honeycomb was a rushed project to compete with the iPad, therefore there are a lot of bugs and our dev community does its best. With the recent release of ICS this will be fixed. There is hardware acceleration and many other optimizations for phones and tablets alike. This device and other tablets will soon become beastly, because of a software upgrade.
Really, who needs a quad core? Go buy a laptop then, gaming was made for consoles, so dont buy a tablet for your gaming needs. If you do not enjoy the TF101 for at least until the middle of 2012 you are pretty ungrateful fo this amazing piece of technology.
The Tegra 2 is not outdated yet! Please take into mind this post when deciding to post about the prime, most of us do not care.
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This makes me feel a shame that I have but one thanks to give in support!
Personally I would like to see a new section for the Transformer Prime. I'm certain it will be an instant hit and certainly there are some Devs that will be all over it as well.
You really think its going to be unlocked? Keep dreaming as Asus has locked down the last 3 months of the first version and the slider. There is almost zero chance they will suddenly unlock the TF2.
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Alright guys this is becoming ridiculous, theres like 20 posts about wether or not you should buy the new transformer. Ok, you want the latest and greatest? Then stop bugging other people about it.
I love to browse this forum about my device, TF101, I do not want to hear about the Transformer Prime. Go post in the XDA general forum and clutter that section.
Honeycomb was a rushed project to compete with the iPad, therefore there are a lot of bugs and our dev community does its best. With the recent release of ICS this will be fixed. There is hardware acceleration and many other optimizations for phones and tablets alike. This device and other tablets will soon become beastly, because of a software upgrade.
Really, who needs a quad core? Go buy a laptop then, gaming was made for consoles, so dont buy a tablet for your gaming needs. If you do not enjoy the TF101 for at least until the middle of 2012 you are pretty ungrateful fo this amazing piece of technology.
The Tegra 2 is not outdated yet! Please take into mind this post when deciding to post about the prime, most of us do not care.
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Quad-core isn't for just games -.- Android is built around multitasking, and it utilizes everything it can for that. A dual-core tablet or phone can multitask faster, better, and more efficient than a single core can. Therefore, a quad-core can, theoretically, multitask x2 better than a dual-core device.
Tablets are starting to be made to REPLACE laptops. Have you seen quad core laptops? They are heavy and big. Have you seen the thinnest of the Transformer Prime? Having the power of a quad core in a extremely small package is great. Just because you want a laptop that has a quad core doesn't mean you are ungrateful, it just means you're trying to get the newest and the best things, and there is nothing wrong with that.
From what you're saying, you mean to tell me that getting a new car with more horsepower, more cargo room, and has a higher MPG isn't worth getting just because you bought the old model a couple of months ago? If it's gonna save you time, money, and headaches, then it definitely is.
Oh and you have no right calling anyone ungrateful just because they want/like to upgrade to the newest thing. Just because you don't see a need in it or want to upgrade doesn't mean other people don't, and that the people that do are wrong..
I believe that when there is enough interest and support then there is a possibility. The Droid X was a perfect example.
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Quad-core isn't for just games -.- Android is built around multitasking, and it utilizes everything it can for that. A dual-core tablet or phone can multitask faster, better, and more efficient than a single core can. Therefore, a quad-core can, theoretically, multitask x2 better than a dual-core device.
Tablets are starting to be made to REPLACE laptops. Have you seen quad core laptops? They are heavy and big. Have you seen the thinnest of the Transformer Prime? Having the power of a quad core in a extremely small package is great. Just because you want a laptop that has a quad core doesn't mean you are ungrateful, it just means you're trying to get the newest and the best things, and there is nothing wrong with that.
From what you're saying, you mean to tell me that getting a new car with more horsepower, more cargo room, and has a higher MPG isn't worth getting just because you bought the old model a couple of months ago? If it's gonna save you time, money, and headaches, then it definitely is.
Oh and you have no right calling anyone ungrateful just because they want/like to upgrade to the newest thing. Just because you don't see a need in it or want to upgrade doesn't mean other people don't, and that the people that do are wrong..
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I understand it will technically be able to do things "relatively" faster, but I did not this thread to argue against those who want to purchase it. I am mainly arguing if you want the device great, now don't ruin our Transformer forum with countless threads. These threads can all be in the main general section of XDA.
Realistically though if you bought a car a few months ago and already buying another, you have money to spend. I am not sure of your financial situation(I also do not want to know), but most people don't have that kind of money nowadays...
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SwiftLegend said:
Quad-core isn't for just games -.- Android is built around multitasking, and it utilizes everything it can for that. A dual-core tablet or phone can multitask faster, better, and more efficient than a single core can. Therefore, a quad-core can, theoretically, multitask x2 better than a dual-core device.
Tablets are starting to be made to REPLACE laptops. Have you seen quad core laptops? They are heavy and big. Have you seen the thinnest of the Transformer Prime? Having the power of a quad core in a extremely small package is great. Just because you want a laptop that has a quad core doesn't mean you are ungrateful, it just means you're trying to get the newest and the best things, and there is nothing wrong with that.
From what you're saying, you mean to tell me that getting a new car with more horsepower, more cargo room, and has a higher MPG isn't worth getting just because you bought the old model a couple of months ago? If it's gonna save you time, money, and headaches, then it definitely is.
Oh and you have no right calling anyone ungrateful just because they want/like to upgrade to the newest thing. Just because you don't see a need in it or want to upgrade doesn't mean other people don't, and that the people that do are wrong..
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All of this is irrelevant, the OP's point was this is a section for the Eee Pad Transformer and not the transformer prime and I agree.
Here's the thing people, pragmatically speaking, TF3 will merely be a difference in degree of speed but not of kind.
What you currently do with your TF2 (ie: web surfing, emails, reading, etc) media consumption, you'll being doing on your TF3, but not more.
That's because Android apps simply hasn't the variety of functionality or robustness as those made by bigger companies with deeper pockets for Windows OS.
Example: Polaris Office is a joke, loses formatting everywhere, crashes all the time. You STILL can't print directly from within each program. Programs generally lack the quality and seriousness of Windows programs.
TF3 will remain as a media consumption device, and so far, most reasonable people will see little reason to need a faster web browser or email reader.
I bet TF3 won't have the RAM memory requirements to run Windows 8, and even if it did, it won't run all the programs as those for x86 PCs.
So what's the point in upgrade?
I will be saving my money for a real Windows 8 slate when and if it runs > 8 hours.
Agreed. Can't thank you enough.
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Quad-core isn't for just games -.- Android is built around multitasking, and it utilizes everything it can for that. A dual-core tablet or phone can multitask faster, better, and more efficient than a single core can. Therefore, a quad-core can, theoretically, multitask x2 better than a dual-core device.
Tablets are starting to be made to REPLACE laptops. Have you seen quad core laptops? They are heavy and big. Have you seen the thinnest of the Transformer Prime? Having the power of a quad core in a extremely small package is great. Just because you want a laptop that has a quad core doesn't mean you are ungrateful, it just means you're trying to get the newest and the best things, and there is nothing wrong with that.
From what you're saying, you mean to tell me that getting a new car with more horsepower, more cargo room, and has a higher MPG isn't worth getting just because you bought the old model a couple of months ago? If it's gonna save you time, money, and headaches, then it definitely is.
Oh and you have no right calling anyone ungrateful just because they want/like to upgrade to the newest thing. Just because you don't see a need in it or want to upgrade doesn't mean other people don't, and that the people that do are wrong..
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Oh stop! Take what he said in the spirit it was intended, to APPRECIATE the Transformer TF-101 - and the last I checked the forum was created for the original. Not that the Prime is not going to be absolutely awesome, and... it will have it's own Section on XDA for all the lucky folks who a) can afford it. It is NOT going to be the bargain that the current Transformer is, that much is clear. and b)The folks who always need the latest, greatest hardware.
Meanwhile, I enjoyed the first 2 or three discussons about the TF 2, but enough already. That was his point too. You don't go into the Droid 1 forum to read and drool about the Droid 4 or whatever goofy new toy is about to be released. You go there becauseyou have a Droid 1 and you love it and want to learn more about it, and maybe make it better.
As I said, the guy didn't post to argue that the original is better, just that he loves it and wants to see this forum stay focused on that. sheesh! Some people want to argue that the new Mustang is superior to any 60's Pony car. Maybe. and maybe it doesn't freaking matter so much. It's all good!
Amen to SmartAs$Phone's post..
TOTALLY AGREE. its like every person who "thinks" they found a new link w/ a little info on it has to open a whole new thread. Dont you think most people glance @ other sites? ridiculous. or my favorite ones " should I wait or should I buy? is the TF a laptop replacement or should I just get a laptop? I just got it, can someone give me a list of the best roms, how to root? french toast or waffles?" OMFG its like they dont have a mind of their own. AND to put the icing on the cake they want to get smart when you tell them to search. AMEN to this thread.....now only if it would put a stop to the BS ones
At the very least post in a transformer prime subsection, not the TF101's
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Tablets are starting to be made to REPLACE laptops. Have you seen quad core laptops? They are heavy and big. Have you seen the thinnest of the Transformer Prime? Having the power of a quad core in a extremely small package is great.
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Comparing a quad-core i7 with Tegra 3 quad core?!?!? LMAO, someone pass over whatever Swift is smoking....Keep dreaming....

Xoom v Nexus 7?

I was going to get a Nexus 7, but after reading about all the defects/faults I decided not to.
I saw a Xoom for £190, 32GB Version.
How are these tablets? Can they run ICS good? Is the gaming performance and general smoothness good? Can play 1080p?
Thanks
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I was going to get a Nexus 7, but after reading about all the defects/faults I decided not to.
I saw a Xoom for £190, 32GB Version.
How are these tablets? Can they run ICS good? Is the gaming performance and general smoothness good? Can play 1080p?
Thanks
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To be very honest, all your questions are clearly answered here already just from searching for 5 min... and you will also find that many of us have passed on ICS and are now running Jelly Bean.
Do you want to run Jellybean? There's an EOS Rom for that. Check out Team EOS Jellybean for your (potential) device in the Development section.
Xoom rules! (This is the original Xoom.)
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I saw a Xoom for £190, 32GB Version.
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Price is ok, but really cheap if only wifi
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How are these tablets?
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typically 10inch in display diameter (for version 1 Xoom), round egded and 16:9 display ratio. it has a Motorola title on the front to not get sued for copying ipad design. Search specs on the internet. Overall its a 1+year old tablet and technically in the mid-life. It is a great compromise in what-you-pay-and-what-you-get.
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Can they run ICS good?
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It should be shipped with ICS and yes. It always runs better with custom ROM, but you need to have some knowlegde about what you would be doing and what can go wrong.
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Is the gaming performance and general smoothness good?
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For most games (All I play) its really good, but like before performance increases with custom ROMs. But keep in mind you are not paying 500+€.
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Can play 1080p?
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It only has a 720p screen, but it converts down and works. Depending on your audio and video quality, there might be some issues like not playing or slow playback.
Apples to oranges in my opinion.
One is a 7" tablet and one is a 10" tablet. In my experience, they serve different purposes.
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Apples to oranges in my opinion.
One is a 7" tablet and one is a 10" tablet. In my experience, they serve different purposes.
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Not really, more like big brother and little brother. the next motorola xoom will be a true nexus experience because of google ownership, it will have what the 7'' do not have, i don't think google buy motorola to see it fail, the original xoom is still at the top of the food chain in google eyes...
You didn't address what I said at all.
My point is that the 7" form factor is quite different from the 10" form factor. I've owned a 7" tablet though. Having a 4.65" phone and a 10" tablet makes the 7" form factor rather redundant and simply not something for my needs.
Thus back to my original statement, the two form factor serve different purposes/needs. One of the first questions I ask someone when they say "I'm thinking about a tablet" is "what size do you think you'd want?"
it will have what the 7'' do not have
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I don't really know what you're implying here
the original xoom is still at the top of the food chain in google eyes
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No, its really not. We all may love the Xoom, but it was, unfortunately, not the success that Google hoped for. Bad marketing, stupid prices, a stupid promise for 4G that took far too long and beta software (lol Honeycomb) gave the Xoom a really bad name on top of its poor sales.
The Nexus 7's success to date is what Google hoped for in the Xoom.
I have both...here is what I notice:
The n7 (duh) is much faster. much much faster.
The screen resolution on the xoom looks much grainier compared to the n7 (or compared to my GN). It bothers me at some level, but I can live with it.
I use the N7 as a handheld device most of the time, and the xoom stood up in the trifold case.
Did I mention the n7 feels a lot faster?
oh---and the development of the n7 is SIGNIFICANTLY more active than on the xoom (as you would expect from both a nexus device and from a much larger user base).
That is all.
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oh---and I bought my 4g xoom used on craiglist last week for $130, fyi.
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The screen resolution on the xoom looks much grainier compared to the n7 (or compared to my GN).
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The screen of the Xoom is probably its worst quality. The GN is absolutely beautiful, haven't seen an N7 yet so can't comment.
Thats one of the few things I'm jealous of the Xoom2/Xyboard for. It has the IPS display the Xoom should have had :crying:
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I have both...here is what I notice:
The n7 (duh) is much faster. much much faster.
The screen resolution on the xoom looks much grainier compared to the n7 (or compared to my GN). It bothers me at some level, but I can live with it.
I use the N7 as a handheld device most of the time, and the xoom stood up in the trifold case.
Did I mention the n7 feels a lot faster?
oh---and the development of the n7 is SIGNIFICANTLY more active than on the xoom (as you would expect from both a nexus device and from a much larger user base).
That is all.
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oh---and I bought my 4g xoom used on craiglist last week for $130, fyi.
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I have both as well, and I agree that they serve different purposes...Nexus 7 is very easy to hold andcarry around. My Xoom contains my life (loads of apps, lots of productivity-related stuff), and I'm keeping most of my apps off of the 16 gb Nexus 7, just cloud/streaming apps and root tools. But both are running virtually the same software, and despite its age and 2X core vs 4/5X core of N7, Xoom is pretty fast. Where it differs is in some of the benchmarks...I never got much higher than mid 20s fps in Nenamark 2 with Xoom, but N7 got 60.8 fps today!
Yes there's some good original development for N7, it's a new device...and our Team EOS is right there with the best new rom.
I have both as well, and I have to admit I use the nexus 7 more, as it is lighter and smaller. The screen is better on the nexus 7, but I deffinitely can not agree that it feels way faster. I am currently running the official jelly bean update from Google on my Xoom, and in most aspects, The Xoom feels just as fast. Yes, the nexus 7 definitely does out do the Xoom by huge amounts in benchmarks, but this does not translate into true user performance. Even my nexus s can run jelly bean, and feel "buttery" smooth, and it has a single core, and half a gig of ram. A quad core processor for android is good for 2 things,highly process intensive games, and marketing.
If this helped, or you just appreciate me spending my time to right this, then please give me a thanks:good:
I have both, both running EOS 3 most of the time. The 7 is smaller, faster and stronger basically, but that doesn't make the Xoom a bad tablet by any means.

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