Xoom v Nexus 7? - Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was going to get a Nexus 7, but after reading about all the defects/faults I decided not to.
I saw a Xoom for £190, 32GB Version.
How are these tablets? Can they run ICS good? Is the gaming performance and general smoothness good? Can play 1080p?
Thanks

cined said:
I was going to get a Nexus 7, but after reading about all the defects/faults I decided not to.
I saw a Xoom for £190, 32GB Version.
How are these tablets? Can they run ICS good? Is the gaming performance and general smoothness good? Can play 1080p?
Thanks
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To be very honest, all your questions are clearly answered here already just from searching for 5 min... and you will also find that many of us have passed on ICS and are now running Jelly Bean.

Do you want to run Jellybean? There's an EOS Rom for that. Check out Team EOS Jellybean for your (potential) device in the Development section.
Xoom rules! (This is the original Xoom.)

cined said:
I saw a Xoom for £190, 32GB Version.
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Price is ok, but really cheap if only wifi
cined said:
How are these tablets?
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typically 10inch in display diameter (for version 1 Xoom), round egded and 16:9 display ratio. it has a Motorola title on the front to not get sued for copying ipad design. Search specs on the internet. Overall its a 1+year old tablet and technically in the mid-life. It is a great compromise in what-you-pay-and-what-you-get.
cined said:
Can they run ICS good?
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It should be shipped with ICS and yes. It always runs better with custom ROM, but you need to have some knowlegde about what you would be doing and what can go wrong.
cined said:
Is the gaming performance and general smoothness good?
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For most games (All I play) its really good, but like before performance increases with custom ROMs. But keep in mind you are not paying 500+€.
cined said:
Can play 1080p?
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It only has a 720p screen, but it converts down and works. Depending on your audio and video quality, there might be some issues like not playing or slow playback.

Apples to oranges in my opinion.
One is a 7" tablet and one is a 10" tablet. In my experience, they serve different purposes.

Cubanluke88 said:
Apples to oranges in my opinion.
One is a 7" tablet and one is a 10" tablet. In my experience, they serve different purposes.
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Not really, more like big brother and little brother. the next motorola xoom will be a true nexus experience because of google ownership, it will have what the 7'' do not have, i don't think google buy motorola to see it fail, the original xoom is still at the top of the food chain in google eyes...

You didn't address what I said at all.
My point is that the 7" form factor is quite different from the 10" form factor. I've owned a 7" tablet though. Having a 4.65" phone and a 10" tablet makes the 7" form factor rather redundant and simply not something for my needs.
Thus back to my original statement, the two form factor serve different purposes/needs. One of the first questions I ask someone when they say "I'm thinking about a tablet" is "what size do you think you'd want?"
it will have what the 7'' do not have
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I don't really know what you're implying here
the original xoom is still at the top of the food chain in google eyes
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No, its really not. We all may love the Xoom, but it was, unfortunately, not the success that Google hoped for. Bad marketing, stupid prices, a stupid promise for 4G that took far too long and beta software (lol Honeycomb) gave the Xoom a really bad name on top of its poor sales.
The Nexus 7's success to date is what Google hoped for in the Xoom.

I have both...here is what I notice:
The n7 (duh) is much faster. much much faster.
The screen resolution on the xoom looks much grainier compared to the n7 (or compared to my GN). It bothers me at some level, but I can live with it.
I use the N7 as a handheld device most of the time, and the xoom stood up in the trifold case.
Did I mention the n7 feels a lot faster?
oh---and the development of the n7 is SIGNIFICANTLY more active than on the xoom (as you would expect from both a nexus device and from a much larger user base).
That is all.
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oh---and I bought my 4g xoom used on craiglist last week for $130, fyi.

bongostl said:
The screen resolution on the xoom looks much grainier compared to the n7 (or compared to my GN).
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The screen of the Xoom is probably its worst quality. The GN is absolutely beautiful, haven't seen an N7 yet so can't comment.
Thats one of the few things I'm jealous of the Xoom2/Xyboard for. It has the IPS display the Xoom should have had :crying:

bongostl said:
I have both...here is what I notice:
The n7 (duh) is much faster. much much faster.
The screen resolution on the xoom looks much grainier compared to the n7 (or compared to my GN). It bothers me at some level, but I can live with it.
I use the N7 as a handheld device most of the time, and the xoom stood up in the trifold case.
Did I mention the n7 feels a lot faster?
oh---and the development of the n7 is SIGNIFICANTLY more active than on the xoom (as you would expect from both a nexus device and from a much larger user base).
That is all.
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oh---and I bought my 4g xoom used on craiglist last week for $130, fyi.
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I have both as well, and I agree that they serve different purposes...Nexus 7 is very easy to hold andcarry around. My Xoom contains my life (loads of apps, lots of productivity-related stuff), and I'm keeping most of my apps off of the 16 gb Nexus 7, just cloud/streaming apps and root tools. But both are running virtually the same software, and despite its age and 2X core vs 4/5X core of N7, Xoom is pretty fast. Where it differs is in some of the benchmarks...I never got much higher than mid 20s fps in Nenamark 2 with Xoom, but N7 got 60.8 fps today!
Yes there's some good original development for N7, it's a new device...and our Team EOS is right there with the best new rom.

I have both as well, and I have to admit I use the nexus 7 more, as it is lighter and smaller. The screen is better on the nexus 7, but I deffinitely can not agree that it feels way faster. I am currently running the official jelly bean update from Google on my Xoom, and in most aspects, The Xoom feels just as fast. Yes, the nexus 7 definitely does out do the Xoom by huge amounts in benchmarks, but this does not translate into true user performance. Even my nexus s can run jelly bean, and feel "buttery" smooth, and it has a single core, and half a gig of ram. A quad core processor for android is good for 2 things,highly process intensive games, and marketing.
If this helped, or you just appreciate me spending my time to right this, then please give me a thanks:good:

I have both, both running EOS 3 most of the time. The 7 is smaller, faster and stronger basically, but that doesn't make the Xoom a bad tablet by any means.

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Nexus S as compared to Galaxy SII :S

Hi guys,
Galaxy SII blew away my senses with its performance. It is too slick. Do Benchmark softwares like quadrant have any significance ? Mine Nexus S shows a very high score but its not even half slick as SII Which ROMs should I try, if I am looking for a slick Rom. Or the hardware difference is of a significant matter here ?
suhas_sm said:
Hi guys,
Galaxy SII blew away my senses with its performance. It is too slick. Do Benchmark softwares like quadrant have any significance ? Mine Nexus S shows a very high score but its not even half slick as SII Which ROMs should I try, if I am looking for a slick Rom. Or the hardware difference is of a significant matter here ?
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Go AOSP(CM7/MIUI) and then use a kernel that will allow you to over-clock the crap out of your NS. You might still not reach desired performance compare to a stock or even over-clocked S2.
You're trying to compare dual core to single core here, not to mention double the amount of RAM.
Ive used my mates SII, its a great phone to be sure, but honestly in everyday usage terms theres almost nothing between them. Theres some factors i prefer about the SII, but none of them are really enough to make me wish i had one over my NS.
That may change with the arrival of the Nexus prime. However, ultimately everything becomes obsolete, thats why i purchased the NS, hopefully to avoid some of that. However, i do think that Google really should have made the NS a dual core device, even if it delayed it slightly.
Rotellian said:
Ive used my mates SII, its a great phone to be sure, but honestly in everyday usage terms theres almost nothing between them. Theres some factors i prefer about the SII, but none of them are really enough to make me wish i had one over my NS.
That may change with the arrival of the Nexus prime. However, ultimately everything becomes obsolete, thats why i purchased the NS, hopefully to avoid some of that. However, i do think that Google really should have made the NS a dual core device, even if it delayed it slightly.
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Google made a very good choice when they put the best single core processor available in the Nexus S.
There are barely any dual core socs that beat the samsung chip here.
And no, Tegra 2 does not beat it.
Both cores aren't even being used properly.
The Galaxy S II is barely any better than the Nexus S.
The Nexus Prime will probably rape both though.
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The Nexus S is a phone, whereas the Galaxy S II is a mini-tablet.
today i'm returning nexus s for galaxy s plus, is it a good deal?
If you like less power for more money.
shad0wboss said:
today i'm returning nexus s for galaxy s plus, is it a good deal?
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dario3040 said:
Google made a very good choice when they put the best single core processor available in the Nexus S.
There are barely any dual core socs that beat the samsung chip here.
And no, Tegra 2 does not beat it.
Both cores aren't even being used properly.
The Galaxy S II is barely any better than the Nexus S.
The Nexus Prime will probably rape both though.
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This. Dual core is a waste in 2011. My ns4g is faster and more responsive than my friends dual core devices.(plus I have almost 300mb available ram)
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SComp23 said:
The Nexus S is a phone, whereas the Galaxy S II is a mini-tablet.
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I agree. 4" is the sweet spot especially considering screen sizeower consumption. I've had 3"-4.3" displays and the ns4g has spoiled me.
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Guys,
I am "only" talking in terms of performance and I have noticed a huge difference.
As far I think it is the dual core that is making this kind of difference.
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to be honest yes. there is a big difference. not only in speed but in 3d, video rendering+formts, in browsing... they are both due to the software (hardware acceleration tweaks touchwizz added) and the hardware too. never base yourself on forums for these things. ppl generally tend to defend their devices. lol and i do it too at times. just take a look in the nexus one forum, you'll find a couple of threads over there saying that from nexus 1 to nexus s was no upgrade at all.
the thing is ..you cant compare these 2 devices. the nexus s is already a nearly 10 month old device and the sII is still the creme de la creme!
I had a SGSII prior to getting my I9020A Nexus S (on ATT in the US).
In short, the SGSII's screen was shiny and bright, but the low resolution on such a large screen looked bad, IMO. Plus the phone was too flat and slippery and adding a case made it huge. In the end, I could not deal with Touchwiz and radio issues with data speed/dropping. I returned it and have a renewed love for my Nexus S.
deeren said:
to be honest yes. there is a big difference. not only in speed but in 3d, video rendering+formts, in browsing...
you cant compare these 2 devices. the nexus s is already a nearly 10 month old device and the sII is still the creme de la creme!
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I found video capability to be class apart ! Just blew my senses away
And agree, even I am using it since 10 months and it is old now. But still not that old. Anyways, Android is moving towards right direction and finally perfect hardware maturity has been attained to give a superb user experience, in fact at par with iOS. Before every pounces on me , I have always been an android fan but always considered iOS to be a superior OS.
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I had a SGSII prior to getting my I9020A Nexus S (on ATT in the US).
In short, the SGSII's screen was shiny and bright, but the low resolution on such a large screen looked bad, IMO. Plus the phone was too flat and slippery and adding a case made it huge. In the end, I could not deal with Touchwiz and radio issues with data speed/dropping. I returned it and have a renewed love for my Nexus S.
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ericshmerick said:
I had a SGSII prior to getting my I9020A Nexus S (on ATT in the US).
In short, the SGSII's screen was shiny and bright, but the low resolution on such a large screen looked bad, IMO. Plus the phone was too flat and slippery and adding a case made it huge. In the end, I could not deal with Touchwiz and radio issues with data speed/dropping. I returned it and have a renewed love for my Nexus S.
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Agreed.
The rez is too low for that sized screen.
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[Q] Second thoughts

I purchased an unlock atrix 2 to use in my country and i'm having second thoughts. I'm coming from a berry storm so to me its a major upgrade. Reviews are sayin its a low budget phone n cant compete with top phones what are you guys opinion on this. And apart from the 1.2 ghz processor on the Gs2 how does the atrix compare with software features and available widgets.
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I purchased an unlock atrix 2 to use in my country and i'm having second thoughts. I'm coming from a berry storm so to me its a major upgrade. Reviews are sayin its a low budget phone n cant compete with top phones what are you guys opinion on this. And apart from the 1.2 ghz processor on the Gs2 how does the atrix compare with software features and available widgets.
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Tons of threads on this. The phone is amazing, competes extremely well with every high end phone out in benchmarks and functionality. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Calundle said:
Tons of threads on this. The phone is amazing, competes extremely well with every high end phone out in benchmarks and functionality. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
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I agree. I came from the nexus s and this phone just flies! Tons of features and pretty good on battery life.
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Calundle said:
Tons of threads on this. The phone is amazing, competes extremely well with every high end phone out in benchmarks and functionality. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
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I honestly wouldn't really agree with the benchmark aspect.
Quadrant:
Atrix 2= 2409
Skyrocket= 3075
Antutu:
Atrix 2= 5177 (unusually high for what Ive pulled before, typically it is around 3500's)
Skyrocket=6477 (beating out the galaxy nexus and only being topped byt the transformer prime quad core)
Both phones were cache cleared, app optimized, maxed stock cpu (atrix 1ghz, skyrocket 1.5, the sky can go to 1.9 but the benchmarks put it into boot loop at that speed) Both are running samung 32gb micros, and screen brightness maxed
One area that the Atrix 2 did excell in was hspa+ data speeds. Same location, the atrix would pull 12+mbps where the Skyrocket would pull around 8-9mbps. Kind of a tradeoff though because when the skyrocket hits LTE Im doing 50+mbps. The atrix is more of a development/ webtop machine as I dont pay for the phone or service (thanks att) and the sky is my daily. I was actually pleasantly surprised at the atrix2 screen as Im not a huge fan of moto screens. Overall I would say it is more mid level than high end. It is sometimes laggy and glitchy but Im sure as soon as the bootloader is unlocked and work really gets done on it, things will turn around.
thanks
So apart from the benchmarks would u say the Atrix 2 can do the same things that the gs2 r nexus can do...imma noob n this will be my 1st android
I believe this phone is right on the level with the other high end phones on the market now. Performance wise it is pretty quick, build quality is near the top, screen is a pleasant surprise.
One thing you should really be aware of when comparing this phone solely on benchmark tests. The Atrix 2 has higher resolution than a lot of phones it is being compared to. This is somewhat of an artificial disadvantage, since this only really hurts the phone's performance on the benchmarks, and not in the real world. Also understand that this phone is constantly compared to phones with overclocked processors, of course those phones will outperform the Atrix 2.
The Atrix, in my opinion is a miss marketed high end device. True, it is not the absolute best phone on the market, but the actual gap between the best phones and the Atrix 2 is very narrow. This phone is every bit as capable as any high end phone on the market, and at half the price.
So no one here would trade for an LG Thrill? I've about had it with the memory bugs on this phone and apps disappearing.
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So apart from the benchmarks would u say the Atrix 2 can do the same things that the gs2 r nexus can do...imma noob n this will be my 1st android
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I think you would be perfectly happy with the atrix2. I work for Best Buy Mobile and I have a lot of phones pass through my hands (I personally get a new one every month or two) so I can be kind of biased towards super smart phones. For the price ($49 from bbym) it is an amazing phone. Its quick and capable of most things the sgs2 and nexus can do (sans ics right now). I dont hesitate to recommend it to people at all for the price. If it were 150+ I would probably not sell many because thats going into sgs2 territory and in my eyes the sgs2 line does have better phones, but at 150-200 dollar difference.
lilhaiti said:
I believe this phone is right on the level with the other high end phones on the market now. Performance wise it is pretty quick, build quality is near the top, screen is a pleasant surprise.
One thing you should really be aware of when comparing this phone solely on benchmark tests. The Atrix 2 has higher resolution than a lot of phones it is being compared to. This is somewhat of an artificial disadvantage, since this only really hurts the phone's performance on the benchmarks, and not in the real world. Also understand that this phone is constantly compared to phones with overclocked processors, of course those phones will outperform the Atrix 2.
The Atrix, in my opinion is a miss marketed high end device. True, it is not the absolute best phone on the market, but the actual gap between the best phones and the Atrix 2 is very narrow. This phone is every bit as capable as any high end phone on the market, and at half the price.
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I posted my personal benchmark scores because I know that is what a lot of people want to see. Many people like opinions but will really make decisions based on real data. And yes you're completely right that there are some things limiting the atrix2's scores while not impacting real life performance. The atrix 2's release was right around when the sgs2 came out and completely got overshadowed. We didn't sell a single one for two weeks after launch. Only now when the atrix1 is free and the 2 is only 50 more are people really getting interested. I can honestly say though that the atrix2 does not perform as well as my skyrocket but its hard to really take those as comparisons. The faster clocked processor and much better graphics chip give the sgs2 line a more fluid user feel which does impact my opinion a lot. The atrix sometimes gets twitchy. I am excited to see some developement on the ROM from once the bootloader gets unlocked. I would love a stripped stock rom and OC/UV kernel. Or a nice vanilla ICS port. I hav been playing with the gnex for about 5 days now at work and it is really nice. Unfortunately 4.0 market would not allow me to run benchmarks? Idk how the gnex's score is in antutu then
Great reviews for the Atrix 2. Aesthetically, the phone looks good too. But we still can't ignore the fact that apps on the Atrix 2 will randomly delete itself whenever it pleases - possibly the only drawback on this beautiful device.
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I've about had it with the memory bugs on this phone and apps disappearing.
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Sharpshooterrr said:
But we still can't ignore the fact that apps on the Atrix 2 will randomly delete itself whenever it pleases - possibly the only drawback on this beautiful device.
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Most of the problems with the apps have been discussed in details and can be fixed. Make sure you have NO apps installed on the sd card and some class 10 cards dont play well with this phone. Notice I said some, not all. Making sure the card is properly formatted will also save you some headache. Now am I saying you should have to do this, No I'm not, especially with a new phone. But there are working workarounds to address the problems if you take the time to do them.
For the price you WILL not beat this phone and it will hold its own with the higher priced phones. Once we get some custom stuff for it, things will truly be different and in a good way.
I'm probably going to jinx myself for saying this but I haven't had any apps go missing and I have had the phone for 31 days
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I'm probably going to jinx myself for saying this but I haven't had any apps go missing and I have had the phone for 31 days
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Same here. Screen and speaker quality are top notch as well.
Thank you guys
Thanks for ya'll feedback I live in the caribbean where Blackberry's run the show...Been eyeing Android Since the 1st Atrix...N coming from a bb storm n torch I kno I wont be disappointed...Jus hope its worth the $389 I coughed up for it....Btw can ya'll tell me what apps i will be interested in especially a weather app with a decent widget
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Thanks for ya'll feedback I live in the caribbean where Blackberry's run the show...Been eyeing Android Since the 1st Atrix...N coming from a bb storm n torch I kno I wont be disappointed...Jus hope its worth the $389 I coughed up for it....Btw can ya'll tell me what apps i will be interested in especially a weather app with a decent widget
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Beautiful Widgets is 10cents today on the market. It has nice weather and you can select between two different sources.
The only thing that is different about the A2 compared to its high-end competitors is its price.
At the person talking about apps disappearing, the same thing happened to me. They would usually reappear after a restart. I found out that it's because some apps stored on the microSD card try to get accessed before the microSD card is fully mounted, and it messes with all the apps on the microSD. For me, the problem app was a theme for GO SMS. Just go to "Manage Apps" and find the apps on the "external storage", click on one you think might be causing a problem and select "Move to phone."
I have owned other android devices and I was a flash addict, that's how I killed my captivate... That being said, I do look forward to flashable ROMS and other tweaks and mods for the A2. But, I can say that I have never been this satisfied with a stock device as I am with the A2. I got it at Target 2 weeks ago, it was free with a 2 year contract ... I am thoroughly happy with it, I could not ask more of a stock device.
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I have owned other android devices and I was a flash addict, that's how I killed my captivate... That being said, I do look forward to flashable ROMS and other tweaks and mods for the A2. But, I can say that I have never been this satisfied with a stock device as I am with the A2. I got it at Target 2 weeks ago, it was free with a 2 year contract ... I am thoroughly happy with it, I could not ask more of a stock device.
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Same here. Had a captivate and loved it. Still have it as a matter of fact but the ATRIX 2 is pretty badass out of the box. I can't wait to see custom rom's on it.
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Thinking of picking up a second OS.

So, I use wp7 right now. It's hands down my favorite OS. However, I want another OS to play around on more. I don't want an iPhone as they bore me, my options are android or meego. Here's my thoughts on each and the devices I'd get.
Droid Razr: Nice hardware, infinite marketplace, I've heard the sound is good. The cons are that the gpu acceleration is still... So-so... There's little chance of updates, I don't think much of the camera, and it will be outdated as quick as it was released. Unfortunately, this is the only android hardware I find considerable.
Nokia N9: Unparalleled hardware, great sound, outstanding camera, extremely well built OS, able to run most android apps. Cons are there's pretty much no chance of a further update (though the OS feels very complete.) the app store is limited, and there's not much in terms of games.
So, your thoughts on the matter? Price is also a concern I suppose. The n9 is much cheaper.
OP I'm sorry, not trying to be a ****, just kind of confused as to why this is posted in the epic 4g touch forums.
It's in the general forums...
Is this showing up in the wrong forum section?
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Is this showing up in the wrong forum section?
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Nope. Its showing up in the general forum
Hit THANKS if I helped u
If you're interested in android, wait for a phone that has better spec than the Galaxy Nexus and is running ICS. ICS is what makes the experience. It's a whole new look and feel than the previous installment, and in my opinion, runs a lot faster and smoother.
If you really want android after talking all that trash on it back in the gingerbread and froyo days, then you sir are insane. Unless you just WANT to start a flame thread.
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If you really want android after talking all that trash on it, then you sir are insane. Unless you just WANT to start a flame thread.
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Agreed; you should just get a Symbian.
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Why would I get Symbian when lag and instability are some of my biggest issues. Android has a lot of issues, whether or not you'll acknowledge them is up to you. Windows Phone has just as many issues, if not more. Windows Phone's issues just effect me less because of how I use my device.
KayxGee, thank you. A big concern for me is what the hardware looks like and feels like. Samsung is undoubtedly making the best overall android devices right now, but I haven't seen much android hardware that I like the look of. The Note isn't too terrible.
What are you looking for in screen size, camera, etc? What carrier?
You should definitely try out the N9. The camera is amazing and the OS is definitely different and will be fun to try out
Get the Galaxy S II, not the Razr. the Razr's battery SUCKS.
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Get the Galaxy S II, not the Razr. the Razr's battery SUCKS.
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The Razr has a better battery life than the Samsung galaxy s II. I dunno what your talking about loool. I have the galaxy s II but when I got the Razr you could instantly tell the Razr had better battery life.
I'm selling my galaxy s II cause I simply prefer the Razr n with that money I will get my self the LG 4x
OMG. Counter Strike On Android! http://cs-portable.net/
I wouldn't buy another GS2, that thing is hideous. I sold my first one and was happy in doing so. I don't care about screen size or processor power, WP7 has shown me that that stuff is primarily a gimmick and is largely unnecessary. I want a device that's aesthetically pleasing and sturdy. As long as it's powerful enough to emulate an SNES my gaming concerns are non-existent. It just seems most android manufacturers are concerned strictly with screen size and processor power rather than the overall quality of the device.
You guys really should stop feeding this thing.
This is obviously a thread for promotion, and flames.
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vetvito said:
You guys really should stop feeding this thing.
This is obviously a thread for promotion, and flames.
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Please don't attempt to instigate in a perfectly valid thread.
Then get an Xperia Play.
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Please don't attempt to instigate in a perfectly valid thread.
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+1
in a meantime... popcorn anyone?
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Then get an Xperia Play.
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I would, but I could not switch to a CDMA carrier. I swap sims way too often.
Xperia Play has a GSM version as well.
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Xoom Family edition ???

Just got this thing as it was pretty cheap..
and specs are the same as my regular xoom, but I'm wondering why its so different than the normal xoom in terms of software upgrades and so on.
I was thinking it would have an upgrade for ICS as honeycomb is F-ing HORRIBLE!!!
Is there any thing out there for rooting? roms
or are all the xooms that different ?
Thanks
lol, never mind.. Going to return and keep my regular xoom..
Seems to be a ton of roms and goodies for the normal xoom, and ZERO for the family edition
I got a xoom FE, not realizing the difference until I came to this forum and found out all I could do is root it. I sold it on ebay and got the regular xoom model. By the way, Motorola said they will upgrade the FE to ICS sometime this year.
Yea I read that, but to be honest, the normal xoom IMO has a much better feel to it.. It feels solid and tough
The way a tablet IMO should feel.. Its fast as heck, smooth and has 32gb on board..
fastfed said:
Yea I read that, but to be honest, the normal xoom IMO has a much better feel to it.. It feels solid and tough
The way a tablet IMO should feel.. Its fast as heck, smooth and has 32gb on board..
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I agree with all the above but in my opinion the xoom2 is better build quality and definitely sexier!
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Tablets

Because I respect the Glacier community so much I pose this topic here.
I'm looking to find a cheap, maybe older, tablet to root and pimp like we have for our phone.
It will mainly be used for presentation purposes...video, slide shows, etc.
All ideas are welcomed, thank you.
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Launchpad McQuack said:
Because I respect the Glacier community so much I pose this topic here.
I'm looking to find a cheap, maybe older, tablet to root and pimp like we have for our phone.
It will mainly be used for presentation purposes...video, slide shows, etc.
All ideas are welcomed, thank you.
Tapatalking from my Dark Unicorn Glacier
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I am gonna get majorly flamed, but honestly, try to get an ipad. I love android an everything but android tablets aren't well enough baked at this point. Try getting a refurb ipad 2. I have the iPad and i love it, expecially for presentations and such.
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I am gonna get majorly flamed, but honestly, try to get an ipad. I love android an everything but android tablets aren't well enough baked at this point. Try getting a refurb ipad 2. I have the iPad and i love it, expecially for presentations and such.
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I disagree. A refurbished Motorola Xoom might be the best bang for the buck you can get. Newegg had NEW Xoom tablets for just 300$ last weekend.
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THEindian said:
I am gonna get majorly flamed, but honestly, try to get an ipad. I love android an everything but android tablets aren't well enough baked at this point. Try getting a refurb ipad 2. I have the iPad and i love it, expecially for presentations and such.
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tristan6100 said:
I disagree. A refurbished Motorola Xoom might be the best bang for the buck you can get. Newegg had NEW Xoom tablets for just 300$ last weekend.
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Both of these tablets would do. Honestly, I'd side with THEindian right now. iPad is a great device, and you'd be able to enjoy the best of both worlds with Android and iOS
Thanks all. I guess I should have really been specific in that I'm only considering Android due to rootability.....and I dislike the iMachine.
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I have a tf101. Asus makes some beastly tabs but they have bugs and stuff. Like the stock ics firmware causes SoDs but there's an awesome italian kernel dev named guevor that pretty much fixed it and its basically his job working on the kernel.
I've heard the Acer tabs are alright, I saw an A200 for 200 somewhere. There's also a new Acer tab with a 1080p screen coming out soon for 450 and there's also the Asus tf700 coming out that's an ipad 3 killer in the benchmarks.
But if you want to be cheap like me, get a tegra 2 tab. The application of the tegra 3 processing power isn't a huge thing at the moment.
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Launchpad McQuack said:
Thanks all. I guess I should have really been specific in that I'm only considering Android due to rootability.....and I dislike the iMachine.
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It really depends on your price range. I am gonna make a last pitch for the ipad, it is iOS but you can jailbreak it an stuff. It has WAY better apps and more that are optimized for the screen. I was at the best buy mobile and i could barely figure out how to use the android tablet. You have an issue if the kernel dev can't navigate through the OS to find the settings button. Anyway, if you are dead set on android, google is expected to release a $200 dollar nexus tablet built by asus w/ tegra 3. That will probably be your best bet.
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It really depends on your price range. I am gonna make a last pitch for the ipad, it is iOS but you can jailbreak it an stuff. It has WAY better apps and more that are optimized for the screen. I was at the best buy mobile and i could barely figure out how to use the android tablet. You have an issue if the kernel dev can't navigate through the OS to find the settings button. Anyway, if you are dead set on android, google is expected to release a $200 dollar nexus tablet built by asus w/ tegra 3. That will probably be your best bet.
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Thanks y'all.
Yeah, been reading up on tabs all day and found some info on the nexus. I wish some details would be released on what kind of functionality it will have, but the price is definitely right along with processing power. I can live without a camera, but GPS might be nice to have in a 7" tablet. Hopefully the info goes viral after I/O next weekend....and ordering one doesn't require a lottery.
Anyone have any experience with the Dell Streak? I've found very mixed reviews out there. Super poor reviews on the Lenovo and Vizio. Seems Samsung, Acer, and Asus have best reviews and fair pricing on 7" tabs...I'm trying to stay under $250, goal being under $200.
I really just can't support anything i, even though I know the products are nice and jailbreakable. I bleed Android for better or worse. Started with a G1, had original chrome beta, and except for Wave and Drive failing, I have never been disappointed by anything g. I've talked and fought so much against iSheep and the iMachine I might get crucified if I showed up with an iPad ;-)
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Launchpad McQuack said:
Thanks y'all.
Yeah, been reading up on tabs all day and found some info on the nexus. I wish some details would be released on what kind of functionality it will have, but the price is definitely right along with processing power. I can live without a camera, but GPS might be nice to have in a 7" tablet. Hopefully the info goes viral after I/O next weekend....and ordering one doesn't require a lottery.
Anyone have any experience with the Dell Streak? I've found very mixed reviews out there. Super poor reviews on the Lenovo and Vizio. Seems Samsung, Acer, and Asus have best reviews and fair pricing on 7" tabs...I'm trying to stay under $250, goal being under $200.
I really just can't support anything i, even though I know the products are nice and jailbreakable. I bleed Android for better or worse. Started with a G1, had original chrome beta, and except for Wave and Drive failing, I have never been disappointed by anything g. I've talked and fought so much against iSheep and the iMachine I might get crucified if I showed up with an iPad ;-)
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Don't get the ipad. My dad has an ipad 2, doesn't do **** with it... I jail broke it, still doesn't do **** with it.
I mess with it myself and I get so bored with it. Yea its all nice and smooth and user friendly but it doesn't have the functionality of android.
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Launchpad McQuack said:
Thanks y'all.
Yeah, been reading up on tabs all day and found some info on the nexus. I wish some details would be released on what kind of functionality it will have, but the price is definitely right along with processing power. I can live without a camera, but GPS might be nice to have in a 7" tablet. Hopefully the info goes viral after I/O next weekend....and ordering one doesn't require a lottery.
Anyone have any experience with the Dell Streak? I've found very mixed reviews out there. Super poor reviews on the Lenovo and Vizio. Seems Samsung, Acer, and Asus have best reviews and fair pricing on 7" tabs...I'm trying to stay under $250, goal being under $200.
I really just can't support anything i, even though I know the products are nice and jailbreakable. I bleed Android for better or worse. Started with a G1, had original chrome beta, and except for Wave and Drive failing, I have never been disappointed by anything g. I've talked and fought so much against iSheep and the iMachine I might get crucified if I showed up with an iPad ;-)
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i got a Dell Streak 7, if you want my honest opinion, it's bad. the battery life sucks on this thing, and it took me a whole day just to upgrade to honeycomb. and they literally have NO development support AT ALL and worst of all, the thing comes with a Tegra 2 processor but only 512 MB of RAM. WTF
IMO, Dell tablets aren't worth it.
my dad has an Acer A500 (10 inch) and a friend of mine has the Acer A100 (7 inch). Acer is okay i guess, much better than Dell, but occasional lag on both devices. not sure if it's because of the way my dad and friend uses them, but battery life on the A100 is bad as well. A500 is okay, about 2 days moderate usage.
i think you should either wait for the Nexus or go for ASUS. i hear great things about those tablets, and they seem very great as well. and they've got HUGE development going on over there.
-Saranhai
saranhai said:
i got a Dell Streak 7, if you want my honest opinion, it's bad. the battery life sucks on this thing, and it took me a whole day just to upgrade to honeycomb. and they literally have NO development support AT ALL and worst of all, the thing comes with a Tegra 2 processor but only 512 MB of RAM. WTF
IMO, Dell tablets aren't worth it.
my dad has an Acer A500 (10 inch) and a friend of mine has the Acer A100 (7 inch). Acer is okay i guess, much better than Dell, but occasional lag on both devices. not sure if it's because of the way my dad and friend uses them, but battery life on the A100 is bad as well. A500 is okay, about 2 days moderate usage.
i think you should either wait for the Nexus or go for ASUS. i hear great things about those tablets, and they seem very great as well. and they've got HUGE development going on over there.
-Saranhai
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If their devs are anywhere as good as we have here for the Glacier, then I'm all in thanks for the Dell review.
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For the best value for your money, I'd suggest the Skypad A2. For just over $100, you get 7" ICS ready tablet, pre-rooted, with HDMI out. How many sub- $200 tablets can boast that? There are a couple of great reviews on Amazon and a handful of custom ROMs.
If you're looking for value, I'd recommend it. I've had no issues and loved it so far. If you're willing to spend the extra couple hundred, you can do much better.
http://www.amazon.com/SKYTEX-Skypad...qid=1340031659&sr=1-1&keywords=skypad+alpha+2
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For the best value for your money, I'd suggest the Skypad A2. For just over $100, you get 7" ICS ready tablet, pre-rooted, with HDMI out. How many sub- $200 tablets can boast that? There are a couple of great reviews on Amazon and a handful of custom ROMs.
If you're looking for value, I'd recommend it. I've had no issues and loved it so far. If you're willing to spend the extra couple hundred, you can do much better.
http://www.amazon.com/SKYTEX-Skypad...qid=1340031659&sr=1-1&keywords=skypad+alpha+2
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The cheaper tabs only have 512mb RAM, am I correct? My mom's nook tab has 1gb of RAM and a dual core processor, so I refuse to have anything less powerful than my mom's nook tablet.
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The cheaper tabs only have 512mb RAM, am I correct? My mom's nook tab has 1gb of RAM and a dual core processor, so I refuse to have anything less powerful than my mom's nook tablet.
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Yes, the screen resolution and ram seem to be the biggest limiting factor for price. the Asus nexus looks to change this however with serious processing/ram power and a decent screen for ~$200....so the hype talk says. We'll see what happens after I/O this weekend. Bit I agree, for me 1Gb ram will likely be mandatory for good presentations.
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
The cheaper tabs only have 512mb RAM, am I correct? My mom's nook tab has 1gb of RAM and a dual core processor, so I refuse to have anything less powerful than my mom's nook tablet.
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Yes, low RAM, but if you're looking for value, how important is that? The 1.2 GHz processor does great with it, and I've regularly used PSX4Droid with no issues. I can't think of anything more processor intensive than that.
It's all about what you need/want. Personally, I'd much rather have the HDMI out and ICS over a nook.
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Yes, low RAM, but if you're looking for value, how important is that? The 1.2 GHz processor does great with it, and I've regularly used PSX4Droid with no issues. I can't think of anything more processor intensive than that.
It's all about what you need/want. Personally, I'd much rather have the HDMI out and ICS over a nook.
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Is that 1.2 single core? What about screen res?
I believe everything should still run smooth on devices with specs similar to those as this phone can too.
I bought fpse, and it actually runs smoother on this tablet if i enable it to use only one core. Lol
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
Is that 1.2 single core? What about screen res?
I believe everything should still run smooth on devices with specs similar to those as this phone can too.
I bought fpse, and it actually runs smoother on this tablet if i enable it to use only one core. Lol
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Yes, it's a single core. The res is average at best, since it's a 7" WVGA (800x480). It's pretty necessary to use the HDMI out, which gives full 1080p res.
There is no way it can compare to more expensive tablets, but it's something I could throw away tomorrow and not feel bad about losing.
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Yes, it's a single core. The res is average at best, since it's a 7" WVGA (800x480). It's pretty necessary to use the HDMI out, which gives full 1080p res.
There is no way it can compare to more expensive tablets, but it's something I could throw away tomorrow and not feel bad about losing.
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That's pretty sweet. That's something you could give to a child for a toy or whatever, though some parents these days (some I know personally) buy their children iDevices...even the ipad -_-
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
That's pretty sweet. That's something you could give to a child for a toy or whatever, though some parents these days (some I know personally) buy their children iDevices...even the ipad -_-
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Exactly. it's something I could literally throw to my 4 year old nephew and not think twice about. A tablet was something I couldn't justify since I have a work laptop and personal one, but the price was too difficult to pass up.
Sadly, I always get the question, oohh, is that an iPad?
Not to rain on the parade but skypad? Never heard of the brand, stick with the big guns bro
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