Hello everybody,
I just noticed that browsing a website with the stock browser (with flash plugin disabled) produces a VERY BIG amount of heat, resulting in a quick battery drain.
I am not talking about clicking links, scrolling pages, etc....
I am experiencing this issue just opening a web page then leaving it alone 5 minutes with the display on.
If I open an article and scroll down a litlle bit every 10 seconds, the problem is bigger and the phone becomes VERY HOT
I have never had this problem with my Nexus S before
Do you have the same problem?
Same problem, internet browsing drain battery and overheath cover and battery, 42/43' C
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I will try unlocking bootloader and installing CM9 to check if the issue is related to stock firmware, did anyone try to use some flavour of CM9?
Yea I tested this on stock ROM, TrickDroid, CM9, and MIUI. Chrome and Dolphin seem to be less of a drain than stock Browser. Have not tested Firefox or Opera.
has anyone tried using chrome beta? i've had my hos for about 3 weeks now and have been mostly using chrome on it to surf. the phone gets at most warm if i surf a lot but nothing that would be considered hot.
I have tested this many times. Stock rom aswel as CM9 (v6,7 and 8).
On both I am getting around 4 hours of screen time before the battery runs out. Very consistent. Inverting colors doesn't seem to help either.
wilcoholic said:
I have tested this many times. Stock rom aswel as CM9 (v6,7 and 8).
On both I am getting around 4 hours of screen time before the battery runs out. Very consistent. Inverting colors doesn't seem to help either.
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4 hours of continuous screen time sounds about right according to gsmarena's own battery test. check under web browsing. it's too bad this figure can't go any higher as the talk time and media playback both seem to be on the upper end of the chart.
i guess it's the downside of having android + amoled screen.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-s-...-how-power-efficient-the-two-krait-cores-are/
just noticed that the windows phone 7.5 samsung focus s with super amoled plus screen is rated for 2 more hours of web browsing time and it also has a 4.3" screen (with lower res) and the same 1650mah battery. the only difference appears to be the OS and cpu. we definitely need android to run more efficiently.
dorezen said:
4 hours of continuous screen time sounds about right according to gsmarena's own battery test. check under web browsing. it's too bad this figure can't go any higher as the talk time and media playback both seem to be on the upper end of the chart.
i guess it's the downside of having android + amoled screen.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-s-...-how-power-efficient-the-two-krait-cores-are/
just noticed that the windows phone 7.5 samsung focus s with super amoled plus screen is rated for 2 more hours of web browsing time and it also has a 4.3" screen (with lower res) and the same 1650mah battery. the only difference appears to be the OS and cpu. we definitely need android to run more efficiently.
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after more day i have found a possible solution ... BEFORE the update at a 1.78 rom based, battery of my One S drain normally and back cover don't heat .. since using EVERY 1.78 based rom my battery drain quickly in the web browsing and all One S overheating .. there seem be a sw issues .. don't ?
i haven't used much of 1.53 after getting my phone and went straight to 1.78. maybe i should roll back and give that a try.
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4 hours of continuous screen time sounds about right according to gsmarena's own battery test. check under web browsing. it's too bad this figure can't go any higher as the talk time and media playback both seem to be on the upper end of the chart.
i guess it's the downside of having android + amoled screen.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-s-...-how-power-efficient-the-two-krait-cores-are/
just noticed that the windows phone 7.5 samsung focus s with super amoled plus screen is rated for 2 more hours of web browsing time and it also has a 4.3" screen (with lower res) and the same 1650mah battery. the only difference appears to be the OS and cpu. we definitely need android to run more efficiently.
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I don't think I'd want the single core processor and 512MB of memory the Focus S has.
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I don't think I'd want the single core processor and 512MB of memory the Focus S has.
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of course no one would want a single core cpu these days, at least not for a phone running android. my point for bringing up the focus s is that it's an older phone with slower and likely more power hungry cpu and yet it's able to last longer. everything else aside, the only difference would be the OS, screen res and cpu.
I read somewhere that SAMOLED screens drain faster on white colours,maybe that's why it drains faster on the browser.
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I read somewhere that SAMOLED screens drain faster on white colours,maybe that's why it drains faster on the browser.
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This thread is quite old, but since I'm having the same issue with my phone, so thought not to create a new topic when one already exists.
Yesterday I used stock browser (not that much, not for hour(s)), and it took 36% of my phone's battery. I want to ask is it normal? Or only my phone having this issue that stock browser is taking so much of battery usage.
Secondly, you can't even close stock browser, I mean when you're done using it, you can only press the home key, and it is minimized and stays in the memory (thought was not showing in stock task manager, but in battery consumption, it was showing with "cross" button dark).
Please see the attached image, the browser has consumed 36% of battery with not a heavy usage. And secondly when I saw screen shots of battery posted by other users, there's "Screen" also showing up in the battery usage, but in my phone, no such thing "Screen" appears in battery usage. I'm using Apex launcher, is apex launcher = screen?
Regards
same issue with stock browser drain on S3 processor and android 4.1.1, any solution?
Edit:last htc stock rom
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I don't think I'd want the single core processor and 512MB of memory the Focus S has.
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I can say that on stock 4.0.4 the integrated browser took 25% of battery per hour.
The problem is on "sleep" mode, seems stock browser are runnning and drains about 40%. This happens with a new S3 stock htc. I have an S4 with vodafone rom and works fine. This is strange behaviour but seems omer7 have the same problem
That is normal. on sense 4+ (JB), there is no screen use % like there was on ICS. Basically, your screen time % is included with the % of each app listed, that's why they seem high.
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yea battery drain is also happening for me in the stock browser but not that much in another one
Strange really
Could you guys please state how much juice are you consuming when surfing with the stock browser? So that we can make a more objective comparison. Also mention any relevant factors (e.g. kernel, undervolting, sunlight, etc.), if any.
In my case it's 25% per hour, with no direct sunlight. I'm on 4.0.4 though.
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Hi ,
currently I'm running CodenameAndroid 3.3.0 on my Nexus S and everything runs smooth and works perfectly well for me, no doubts. But somehow I constantly get the feeling that the newer our operating system gets our batteries drain faster. Either this or my battery just gets old. However I'm searching for a Rom that has battery saving in main purpose. I dont care about playing games, the operating system or showing off how great my phone is. For this I have my Tablet The best solution for me would be a rom which is very low in batterydrain but as smooth as jellybean (maybe just port the transitions over). I know it might be hard to find something like this but is there any rom which matches my perception? Also a nice look would be cool, too ^^
I'm waiting for your responses!
I think you're looking for SlimBean. I'm on CNA too, the batter life is pretty bad
I tried SlimBean because I used SlimICS before but I miss too many features to change it back. Isn't there something else? Or which OS has the best batterylife in general?
i think gingerbread still has the best battery life.
androxide got me over 4hrs of screen time and a days usage with matrix
the new miui jb is also almost the same
IMO.....ICS's best battery life is on Kangy Ultra Ex 1.3 by DaXmax.
Just as long as u don't use Google talk since that's the ROMs only hiccup.
Then again like most will say.... its all depending on the user so hopefully it will help if u try.
I'm currently using the same developers JB ROM called paranoid Android..... so far it great but again I don't use all the newest features to much yet. I'm working myself slowing into the stuff.
Good luck
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There is no ROM with super battery life, some better and some worst, very similar.
Most u can get from nexus s is +4hrs screen on.
And i don't care about those pathetic screen shots with +7hrs of screen on.
Fire up 3g/H stock browser, maps, music etc and we'll find out how good ur battery life is.
MIUI get's me aprox 4 hours and 50 minutes of on screen time. Lots of game playing, instant messaging, syncing, music, and social media (Instagram, twitter, tumblr.) And about 9 hours + when it get's to about 14%
EDIT: This is when using WIFI, not my 3G.
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Hi ,
currently I'm running CodenameAndroid 3.3.0 on my Nexus S and everything runs smooth and works perfectly well for me, no doubts. But somehow I constantly get the feeling that the newer our operating system gets our batteries drain faster. Either this or my battery just gets old. However I'm searching for a Rom that has battery saving in main purpose. I dont care about playing games, the operating system or showing off how great my phone is. For this I have my Tablet The best solution for me would be a rom which is very low in batterydrain but as smooth as jellybean (maybe just port the transitions over). I know it might be hard to find something like this but is there any rom which matches my perception? Also a nice look would be cool, too ^^
I'm waiting for your responses!
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This question will produce every combo under the sun...but in the end no Real answer. Every phone/battery is different and how the person uses their phone. Apps installed, how much you use said apps, are the ram hogs, 2g, 3g, I could go on forever...just like this thread will if not eventually ignored or closed.
Closed, there is no answer to this question, the majority of battery drain will be the screen (depending on brightness) and whatever app you have installed and use.
Generally it's a matter of finding out what works for you.
Im running Viper XL and the reason i flashed it is because i heard it has above average battery life, but im getting maybe 10-13 hrs max. I've heard cases of 24 hr battery life, and I cant seem to achieve it. I am running Beast Mode Kernel and have the powersave governor. I am running Stock CPU frequency and have one core active. Am I missing something, because i got better battery life on paranoid android which kind of suprised me.
You really have to drill down on the tweaking and settings. Took me a bit to get what I wanted as well. I completely shut off Google Now, you can toggle off LTE and surprisingly, I raised my min cpu frequency to 594 and ondemand. Shut off HTC powersaver as well. Try a reboot after you tweak up all your settings. I think battery life was better on 2.4.1 but it's pretty well on 3.1 too.
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Im running Viper XL and the reason i flashed it is because i heard it has above average battery life, but im getting maybe 10-13 hrs max. I've heard cases of 24 hr battery life, and I cant seem to achieve it. I am running Beast Mode Kernel and have the powersave governor. I am running Stock CPU frequency and have one core active. Am I missing something, because i got better battery life on paranoid android which kind of suprised me.
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I'm assuming you're running ViperXL 3.1. In that case, I'm surprised you're seeing such poor battery life. But, usage and settings are everything. Things like Google Now and GPS are major battery hogs. Facebook, Google+ and other push applications can also hamper battery life. Check your background sync frequencies! How long is your screen running? At what brightness? etc.
That being said, what strikes me is your kernel. You should not be using Beat Mode Kernel (last I checked it's not even optimized for the latest android version). I recommend you use the stock ViperXL kernel or Elemental v1.5.
I've ran ViperXL 3.1 yesterday with elemental v1.5 for more than 24 hours, 3 hours screen time while syncing 3 e-mail accounts. YMMV but with proper set up it's definitely possible.
Give us more information about your usage!
Alright, thanks for the information on the kernel, its a shame because i heard good about it. But as my screen time i run low brightness and im pretty heavy on texting, I used LTE for about 40 mins total today. can you tell me the way you disabled google now? I've been tweaking the settings a bit and i guess i just havent found my sweet spot.
Edit: And im running 2.4.1 actually sorry should of put that in first post.
Complaining about 13 hours of battery life. O__o
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Not a complaint! I'm Just saying i've heard of better
Battery life is a very elusive thing. There are simply too many variables. For every ROM, radio, etc. where people will say they have much better battery life, you will almost certainly find others that have worse. Its just a fact of life with modding phones.
I've gotten about a day and a half on a single charge ever since the phone was released, and over 48 hours with later firmware versions (stock and custom ROMs) as of 2.2X and newer. Some folks can't even get through a half a day.
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Not a complaint! I'm Just saying i've heard of better
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CleanRom 5.1 might get a little better, but I've had about the same battery life using Viper XL 3.1. A lot of the other things to look at are certain apps that seem to cause a lot of drain (depending on options). The most frequently mentioned are: Google Now, Facebook, and Maps. Other than that, lower brightness and shutting off LTE are the next biggest contenders.
The battery on this thing sucks donkey balls. I don't know if it's CM10.1 or the NEXT kernel but this battery life is extremely short. Can anyone tell me what their ROMs and kernels are that hold up well to NORMAL usage, not light usage. I don't think my gaming is pretty heavy in usage. I only played for about 4 hours tops and it's drained itself to 38% and I wasn't even connected to WiFi while playing.
On top of that, I've been experiencing more lag than before I flashed the Next kernel. Not even over clocked or using dual boot, I'm also using the hotplug kernel which supposedly makes a difference in battery. I am using a live wallapaper, but it's not really "live" it just changes the wallpaper between two images depending on the orientation.
I've attached the brightness level I used, the screen on time, and the stats.
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I have never used a 3k mAh battery(phone) before and now that i have i cant really see a big change here are the stats
1. 20% battery after 10 hours.
2. Screen time 5 hours.
3.call time 40 mins
4. I am connected to wifi all day so whenever my screen is on its either i am surfing net or using any other internet apps
5. No game played
These are the status for today (usually same other days too)
If anyone of u can take out some time to reply abt if ur guys are getting the same or almost same charge time or is it only me
Mine screem time always exceeds 6.30hrs and i play games
Between 5-6 hrs of screen-on time on all-day wifi, 20-30 mins of 2G calls, an hour of gaming, an hour of YouTube or music, and the rest of the time wasted on social networking & other apps, and in taking a LOT of photos.
There have been days where i've seen 7 hrs of SOT, but that was when the phone wasn't loaded with as many apps as it is now. Now its mostly around 5 hours on moderately heavy usage and just over 6 on days when i only text & browse the web.
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Between 5-6 hrs of screen-on time on all-day wifi, 20-30 mins of 2G calls, an hour of gaming, an hour of YouTube or music, and the rest of the time wasted on social networking & other apps, and in taking a LOT of photos.
There have been days where i've seen 7 hrs of SOT, but that was when the phone wasn't loaded with as many apps as it is now. Now its mostly around 5 hours on moderately heavy usage and just over 6 on days when i only text & browse the web.
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Lol, its like we have identically usuage of phone
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I have never used a 3k mAh battery(phone) before and now that i have i cant really see a big change here are the stats
1. 20% battery after 10 hours.
2. Screen time 5 hours.
3.call time 40 mins
4. I am connected to wifi all day so whenever my screen is on its either i am surfing net or using any other internet apps
5. No game played
These are the status for today (usually same other days too)
If anyone of u can take out some time to reply abt if ur guys are getting the same or almost same charge time or is it only me
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1.5 Days with full charge...
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1.5 Days with full charge...
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Damn. But what kinda usage
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Damn. But what kinda usage
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Basic usage..
Calls, whats app, mails,....
Managed 7 hours screen on time with moderate usage.
- Mostly browsing on Wi-Fi
- Took over 80 photos
- 50 mins of calls on 2G
- All day Wi-Fi except while sleeping
This is just after the 6.5.5.0 update.
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Yes i did notice really great difference in the screen time dont know if it was just me it did actually changed after the update
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ruffain said:
stivinnaura said:
Yes i did notice really great difference in the screen time dont know if it was just me it did actually changed after the update
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Stats refer to pic were
1.5 hour youtube
1 hour call
Wifi almost all the time
Screen time was more then 6 hours
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Dear friends,
I hear you all talking about battery usage, and i am wondering if anything is wrong with my phone.... who knows... but i would like to report that, yes , indeed the screen time is reaching the 5 hours but the battery has been reduced from 90% to 15% and only using facebook and videos and the music player!!!! OMG!!!! I Mean OMG!!!
Where did you came up with 5 hours with youtube plus gaming plus facebook plus talking plus plus ????
To my humble belief the battery needs to save more energy. !!!! At the moment i dont have any tool to monitor if all 8 processors are runnning at the same time, but i am pretty sure that they do run together for everything! BUT actually they dont need to run !!! Especially when the phone is used only for facebook webrowsing and all these applications.!!!!!
all cores must be triggered and be fully working when you are using high end graphic games and stuff! Why all this battery is running for such small applications @???@@@@!!!!!?????????
I am not sure if anyone knows any solution on how to deactivate all these cores, but if there is swomebody i would appreciate it if he really did as it is a pitty all this battery to go wasted JUST AND ONLY FOR the purpose of just alll 8 cores running at the same time WITHOUT ANY LOGICAL REASON!!!!
This phone has amazing poetntials!!!! AMAZING POTENTIALS if it to be reprogrammed and debloated by developers such as yourselfs!! If i knew how i would immediatelly start searching for a solution to all these issues!!! There are much more issues than that and for this phone specs the capabilities are being wasted!!! It needs to be debloated and may other things that will enable this phone to become a big GADGET in the market as a low cost and proper phone that it its!
Please for your replies
All the best
Bill
I have left this phone on overnight for 7 hours with WiFi and 4G connections, starting with 100% charge. Periodically my phone would have been checking for new podcasts but other than that it wasn't doing anything.
On my Moto G 4G, the battery dropped from 100 to 93%.
On the Mi 4i it only dropped to 97%, which could be the much larger battery, but it might also be the CPU returning quickly to a deep sleep state as it can finish tasks quicker.
In day to day usage I haven't found it hugely better in terms of battery life but I think that's because the screen is a lot larger and also has far more pixels which places a greater requirement on the GPU.
I use the GSam Battery Monitor app and have attached a screenshot from this as well as from the MiUi6/Android graph.
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Dear friends,
I hear you all talking about battery usage, and i am wondering if anything is wrong with my phone.... who knows... but i would like to report that, yes , indeed the screen time is reaching the 5 hours but the battery has been reduced from 90% to 15% and only using facebook and videos and the music player!!!! OMG!!!! I Mean OMG!!!
Where did you came up with 5 hours with youtube plus gaming plus facebook plus talking plus plus ????
To my humble belief the battery needs to save more energy. !!!! At the moment i dont have any tool to monitor if all 8 processors are runnning at the same time, but i am pretty sure that they do run together for everything! BUT actually they dont need to run !!! Especially when the phone is used only for facebook webrowsing and all these applications.!!!!!
all cores must be triggered and be fully working when you are using high end graphic games and stuff! Why all this battery is running for such small applications @???@@@@!!!!!?????????
I am not sure if anyone knows any solution on how to deactivate all these cores, but if there is swomebody i would appreciate it if he really did as it is a pitty all this battery to go wasted JUST AND ONLY FOR the purpose of just alll 8 cores running at the same time WITHOUT ANY LOGICAL REASON!!!!
This phone has amazing poetntials!!!! AMAZING POTENTIALS if it to be reprogrammed and debloated by developers such as yourselfs!! If i knew how i would immediatelly start searching for a solution to all these issues!!! There are much more issues than that and for this phone specs the capabilities are being wasted!!! It needs to be debloated and may other things that will enable this phone to become a big GADGET in the market as a low cost and proper phone that it its!
Please for your replies
All the best
Bill
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If you have heard of overclocking and underclocking nywas yes u can tweak processor u need to root our phone for that there are lot of apps for that I don't remember the names rights now.
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If you have heard of overclocking and underclocking nywas yes u can tweak processor u need to root our phone for that there are lot of apps for that I don't remember the names rights now.
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Hi,
Wouldn't it be much more nicer though the fact of developing a new rom that the user will be able to do all these stuff ( i mean overclocking/underclocking, play with colors saturation and setting as well as eliminating all the process that prevent the phone from keeping the battery for 2 days! (that is even with wi fi use!)
Cause if you think about it , we are not far from previous low end generation phone that the used single core and much more less characteristics in order to run the exact same application on the same level, but in a lower graphics environment. Also look at samsung note 4 hibernation mode, that would be a development for this phone as well and keep the phone lasting for 30 days!
From one point of view we are talking with an open world of software, why not having these abilities why do we have to waste drain battery with no reason what so ever. ???
I think you know what short of improvements i am talking about and these would be accompanied perfectly with this phone specs.
what do you think guys?
i want your point of view, maybe i am not saying everything correctly.
Thanks
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Hi,
Wouldn't it be much more nicer though the fact of developing a new rom that the user will be able to do all these stuff ( i mean overclocking/underclocking, play with colors saturation and setting as well as eliminating all the process that prevent the phone from keeping the battery for 2 days! (that is even with wi fi use!)
Cause if you think about it , we are not far from previous low end generation phone that the used single core and much more less characteristics in order to run the exact same application on the same level, but in a lower graphics environment. Also look at samsung note 4 hibernation mode, that would be a development for this phone as well and keep the phone lasting for 30 days!
From one point of view we are talking with an open world of software, why not having these abilities why do we have to waste drain battery with no reason what so ever. ???
I think you know what short of improvements i am talking about and these would be accompanied perfectly with this phone specs.
what do you think guys?
i want your point of view, maybe i am not saying everything correctly.
Thanks
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Yes that would be nice and I guess ASOP roms have all those features wat you are asking about. A new rom would be nice but miui keeps on fixes minor bugs I don't think mi would provide us that rom in near future and noone really likes to wait so everyone roots their phone and tweaks it xposed framework is one of the best thing after rooting
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Yes that would be nice and I guess ASOP roms have all those features wat you are asking about. A new rom would be nice but miui keeps on fixes minor bugs I don't think mi would provide us that rom in near future and noone really likes to wait so everyone roots their phone and tweaks it xposed framework is one of the best thing after rooting
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i have rooted my mi 4i but i cannot adjust only using two out of the eight cores for everything in order to achieve battery reduction.... there is non such application neither kernel development of any short hat allows you to change the kernel setting to how-many number of cores you would like.
But if you know any other way i would be most happy to hear about it my friend.
@vrtsvas
on what version ROM are you?
hi there
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on what version ROM are you?
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i am on
android version : 5.0.2. lrx22g
miui version 6.5.6.0 (lximicd) stable
why are you asking this though? how does this relates to the core programming and usage, do you know any software to downclock and use only two cores only? that would be the benefit to the story,
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i am on
android version : 5.0.2. lrx22g
miui version 6.5.6.0 (lximicd) stable
why are you asking this though? how does this relates to the core programming and usage, do you know any software to downclock and use only two cores only? that would be the benefit to the story,
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Well coz Dev ROM sucks the battery so I thought that might ur case yes u can under clock the processor and ur devices must be rooted for it since the kernel source is out I guess we shd wait for a new ROM i am sure someone would include that feature in the ROM
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If someone have root can use "Tweaks For Mi 4i . Fast Charge, No Lagging, Fix issues. For Any ROM" thread from en.miui page to get more standby. I used Tweak your cpu. Phone was coller and by night it used about 3%. Now on V7 I'm not sure it works but that ROM got a lot wakelocks from enything. By night it used 5%.
I am currently on stock Android 12. I flashed the unlocked stock image (non-verizon) a few weeks back. With Android 11, Android 12, LineageOS, etc. every browser I have tried including Chrome, Brave, Via, etc. all drain the battery way faster than browsers did on my previous Moto G5 plus. i would say when I am surfing the net on my browser (usually just reading forums, no video), the battery drains about 1% every 5 minutes or less. I have tried 2.4Ghz wifi, LTE, etc. and data connection type doesn't seem to impact anything.
Is this normal for this phone? anything to do to reduce browser battery drain?
If you go into battery usage graph, is the browser the only app listed as using up the battery (and not the screen brightness, or another app that may be contributing to the heavy usage)
JohnC said:
If you go into battery usage graph, is the browser the only app listed as using up the battery (and not the screen brightness, or another app that may be contributing to the heavy usage)
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correct. if I am using other apps the battery drain isn't near as severe. I keep the display setting "extra dim" enabled all the time and I keep it down as low as I can tolerate. I use a pitch black wallpaper use dark mode in browsers so they have mostly black background with white text.
Phone idle is the only other thing that seems to use a sizeable amount of battery according to the battery usage data in settings.
Sounds about right. Came from a Moto G7 Play (15 months back) and saw similar drain rates. All three devices have similar battery specs which plays into the units being used to assess drain. Is what it is.
FWIW - Opera
DB126 said:
Sounds about right. Came from a Moto G7 Play (15 months back) and saw similar drain rates. All three devices have similar battery specs which plays into the units being used to assess drain. Is what it is.
FWIW - Opera
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Not gonna lie, it makes me want to go back to Motorola when this Pixel bites the dust.
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Not gonna lie, it makes me want to go back to Motorola when this Pixel bites the dust.
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Many Moto's bring a nice package with unique tricks. Gotta do your homework on what features are most important when the time comes.
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Many Moto's bring a nice package with unique tricks. Gotta do your homework on what features are most important when the time comes.
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I definitely did that. I only got the 4a because it was the perfect size and had a headphone jack. I assumed with a newer hardware set and similar sized battery compared to my old phone batter life "should" be better. Nope.
Na, it's more complicated. 4a sports more sensors, brighter/denser display, faster processors, etc. System and personal apps clearly play a role in longevity (behind screen brightness); you'd need to do a detail study to understand what's drawing when and why.
I use to fuss over such matters but find the device lasts a full day for my use case which is all that really matters. Charges up quick from a modest size battery pack when camping/traveling. Just like past Motos.
Not sure who I'll partner with in the next dance. Love Pixel cameras (especially in challenging conditions) and routine updates. Miss some of Moto's innovations, like active display and actions. Needs to be close to AOSP; no Samsung UX butchery. In the end form factor will likely be the deciding factor once non-contenders are ruled out.
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I assumed with a newer hardware set and similar sized battery compared to my old phone batter life "should" be better.
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I don't know what CPU you came from, but if the Moto only had "small" cores then of course it used less battery. "Big" cores use more power. They go faster too, but if you have a constant load, then they'll eat battery faster.
I don't know if there's a non-root way to disable the big cores, but I suspect you can do it with root (but don't know for sure).
Otherwise, you gotta get your browser to stop running JavaScript. If you're watching video you need to make sure the browser is offloading all the decoding to the hardware codecs rather than doing it on the CPU.
And if the screen is on, it might help to try and get it "more black" (eg. Use night mode) or turn down the brightness. The screen is often the primary user of power when a device is being used.
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I don't know what CPU you came from, but if the Moto only had "small" cores then of course it used less battery. "Big" cores use more power. They go faster too, but if you have a constant load, then they'll eat battery faster.
I don't know if there's a non-root way to disable the big cores, but I suspect you can do it with root (but don't know for sure).
Otherwise, you gotta get your browser to stop running JavaScript. If you're watching video you need to make sure the browser is offloading all the decoding to the hardware codecs rather than doing it on the CPU.
And if the screen is on, it might help to try and get it "more black" (eg. Use night mode) or turn down the brightness. The screen is often the primary user of power when a device is being used.
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Thanks for the suggestions. My power complaints are just limited to the browser so I dont think it is just the larger CPUs. I think my standby consumption issues are related to Stock Android as I am now running GrapheneOS and my standby power consumption now matches my old Moto G5 Plus.
As for browser usage consumption, I have tried everything but disabling Javascript. I will try that and see if it breaks anything I use regularly. Thanks for the idea.
tangent back to general power consumption, I typically disable just about everything behind the scenes as I can. I keep the theme on pitch black. I use the extra dim setting to keep screen brightness as low as I can tolerate. I use night mode in browser to keep as much black background as possible. I disable all tap-to-wake or sensor based features. When I was trying to run Android 12, I disabled all the smart services and removed all the google apps I could. I removed all permissions I could. I restricted all apps I could. I disabled adaptive settings, etc. There is a bunch of stuff running in the background on Android 12 and I just could not
Welcome to the future. Older phones had better battery life
Locklear308 said:
Welcome to the future. Older phones had better battery life
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I dont think it is all the phone. GrapheneOS has 40% better standby battery usage than stock android 12. On graphene, it matches my old Moto G5 Plus. It is either lazy programmers with inefficient coding these days or it is google having the stock OS do waaaay too much by default with no way to disable it.
I'm trying to figure that out now.
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I dont think it is all the phone. GrapheneOS has 40% better standby battery usage than stock android 12. On graphene, it matches my old Moto G5 Plus. It is either lazy programmers with inefficient coding these days or it is google having the stock OS do waaaay too much by default with no way to disable it.
I'm trying to figure that out now.
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I totally agree on the lazy thing. So many devs now days are so lazy. I develope QuickBase databases and constantly run into extremely poorly setup realms/apps. Just basic stuff. Lol