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Hello everybody,
I just noticed that browsing a website with the stock browser (with flash plugin disabled) produces a VERY BIG amount of heat, resulting in a quick battery drain.
I am not talking about clicking links, scrolling pages, etc....
I am experiencing this issue just opening a web page then leaving it alone 5 minutes with the display on.
If I open an article and scroll down a litlle bit every 10 seconds, the problem is bigger and the phone becomes VERY HOT
I have never had this problem with my Nexus S before
Do you have the same problem?
Same problem, internet browsing drain battery and overheath cover and battery, 42/43' C
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I will try unlocking bootloader and installing CM9 to check if the issue is related to stock firmware, did anyone try to use some flavour of CM9?
Yea I tested this on stock ROM, TrickDroid, CM9, and MIUI. Chrome and Dolphin seem to be less of a drain than stock Browser. Have not tested Firefox or Opera.
has anyone tried using chrome beta? i've had my hos for about 3 weeks now and have been mostly using chrome on it to surf. the phone gets at most warm if i surf a lot but nothing that would be considered hot.
I have tested this many times. Stock rom aswel as CM9 (v6,7 and 8).
On both I am getting around 4 hours of screen time before the battery runs out. Very consistent. Inverting colors doesn't seem to help either.
wilcoholic said:
I have tested this many times. Stock rom aswel as CM9 (v6,7 and 8).
On both I am getting around 4 hours of screen time before the battery runs out. Very consistent. Inverting colors doesn't seem to help either.
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4 hours of continuous screen time sounds about right according to gsmarena's own battery test. check under web browsing. it's too bad this figure can't go any higher as the talk time and media playback both seem to be on the upper end of the chart.
i guess it's the downside of having android + amoled screen.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-s-...-how-power-efficient-the-two-krait-cores-are/
just noticed that the windows phone 7.5 samsung focus s with super amoled plus screen is rated for 2 more hours of web browsing time and it also has a 4.3" screen (with lower res) and the same 1650mah battery. the only difference appears to be the OS and cpu. we definitely need android to run more efficiently.
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4 hours of continuous screen time sounds about right according to gsmarena's own battery test. check under web browsing. it's too bad this figure can't go any higher as the talk time and media playback both seem to be on the upper end of the chart.
i guess it's the downside of having android + amoled screen.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-s-...-how-power-efficient-the-two-krait-cores-are/
just noticed that the windows phone 7.5 samsung focus s with super amoled plus screen is rated for 2 more hours of web browsing time and it also has a 4.3" screen (with lower res) and the same 1650mah battery. the only difference appears to be the OS and cpu. we definitely need android to run more efficiently.
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after more day i have found a possible solution ... BEFORE the update at a 1.78 rom based, battery of my One S drain normally and back cover don't heat .. since using EVERY 1.78 based rom my battery drain quickly in the web browsing and all One S overheating .. there seem be a sw issues .. don't ?
i haven't used much of 1.53 after getting my phone and went straight to 1.78. maybe i should roll back and give that a try.
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4 hours of continuous screen time sounds about right according to gsmarena's own battery test. check under web browsing. it's too bad this figure can't go any higher as the talk time and media playback both seem to be on the upper end of the chart.
i guess it's the downside of having android + amoled screen.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-s-...-how-power-efficient-the-two-krait-cores-are/
just noticed that the windows phone 7.5 samsung focus s with super amoled plus screen is rated for 2 more hours of web browsing time and it also has a 4.3" screen (with lower res) and the same 1650mah battery. the only difference appears to be the OS and cpu. we definitely need android to run more efficiently.
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I don't think I'd want the single core processor and 512MB of memory the Focus S has.
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jj00KKEERR said:
I don't think I'd want the single core processor and 512MB of memory the Focus S has.
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of course no one would want a single core cpu these days, at least not for a phone running android. my point for bringing up the focus s is that it's an older phone with slower and likely more power hungry cpu and yet it's able to last longer. everything else aside, the only difference would be the OS, screen res and cpu.
I read somewhere that SAMOLED screens drain faster on white colours,maybe that's why it drains faster on the browser.
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Big_Den said:
I read somewhere that SAMOLED screens drain faster on white colours,maybe that's why it drains faster on the browser.
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This thread is quite old, but since I'm having the same issue with my phone, so thought not to create a new topic when one already exists.
Yesterday I used stock browser (not that much, not for hour(s)), and it took 36% of my phone's battery. I want to ask is it normal? Or only my phone having this issue that stock browser is taking so much of battery usage.
Secondly, you can't even close stock browser, I mean when you're done using it, you can only press the home key, and it is minimized and stays in the memory (thought was not showing in stock task manager, but in battery consumption, it was showing with "cross" button dark).
Please see the attached image, the browser has consumed 36% of battery with not a heavy usage. And secondly when I saw screen shots of battery posted by other users, there's "Screen" also showing up in the battery usage, but in my phone, no such thing "Screen" appears in battery usage. I'm using Apex launcher, is apex launcher = screen?
Regards
same issue with stock browser drain on S3 processor and android 4.1.1, any solution?
Edit:last htc stock rom
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I don't think I'd want the single core processor and 512MB of memory the Focus S has.
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I can say that on stock 4.0.4 the integrated browser took 25% of battery per hour.
The problem is on "sleep" mode, seems stock browser are runnning and drains about 40%. This happens with a new S3 stock htc. I have an S4 with vodafone rom and works fine. This is strange behaviour but seems omer7 have the same problem
That is normal. on sense 4+ (JB), there is no screen use % like there was on ICS. Basically, your screen time % is included with the % of each app listed, that's why they seem high.
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yea battery drain is also happening for me in the stock browser but not that much in another one
Strange really
Could you guys please state how much juice are you consuming when surfing with the stock browser? So that we can make a more objective comparison. Also mention any relevant factors (e.g. kernel, undervolting, sunlight, etc.), if any.
In my case it's 25% per hour, with no direct sunlight. I'm on 4.0.4 though.
Idk if this goes in Q/A or not I never had a Q/A section as I came from the amaze but anyway. What battery savers do you guys find best? I Use Batter Defender but doesn't seem to really extend it. Would i be better of not using one at all?
I use 3 programs to help me maximize my battery life.
1) Badass Battery Monitor to figure out what's sucking juice, how long I've left, and how long until I'm full.
2) 2x Battery to manage background data. This probably saves me the most battery by disabling that data transfer a lot of the time.
3) Lux Auto Brightness to tweak my screen brightness. It's pretty much on "dark" now all the time aside for when I'm in really bright light.
JuiceDefender
I use the free version and it's very good!
I think the most effective battery saver is to flash a kernel that has become voltage control features and undervolt the cpu.
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I think the most effective battery saver is to flash a kernel that has become voltage control features and undervolt the cpu.
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I'm not a fan of under volting the CPU. Mainly because if my understanding of Ohms Law is correct, it's pointless. And my personal experience with it seems to corroborate my feelings.
Under volting the CPU in my experience just introduces stability and reliability issues. I've personally never seen any battery savings from it, especially since the CPU should, theoretically, just draw more current (I) to compensate for the lower voltage (E). It's watts (P = ExI) that matter, and the CPU, if I understand correctly, is going to demand the necessary P for the frequency requested. So under volting either starves the CPU (it can't get enough P), or over currents it (it draws more I to compensate for less E). There are slight variations in each CPU, obviously, which may allow for a margin of under volting to be possible without issue, but the battery savings of this, I feel, are so small, any you notice are most likely a placebo effect. Your screen, and apps constantly polling the CPU or network are your biggest source of battery drain to worry about IMHO.
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I use Power Controls widget.
Unless I'm actively using internet, I make sure to turn 4G data to 2G. That alone saves so much battery. If I want further battery saved, I disable internet completely with a touch of a widget. Now my phone will last a week just by what phones do best: Making phonecalls and texting.
I'm on 2.1 GHz overclock processor and when battery goes below 30% it goes to 1ghz I can see the battery being saved
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k1llacanon said:
I'm on 2.1 GHz overclock processor and when battery goes below 30% it goes to 1ghz I can see the battery being saved
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With an higher frequency the phone will use more power, like a pc processor when you overclock it so this is natural, but overclocking/downclocking has nothing to do with undervolting, MadJoe is right.
With JuiceDefender for example you can set your 3g/4g to shut off when you don't use the phone, it activates 3g/4g when you use your phone and at regular intervals in backgroud so it can fetch emails etc.
All automatic so you don't have to switch off and back on network connection every time.
As network connection is one of the services that consumes the battery a lot this is really effective and really improves battery life!
I've read a lot of complaints about these PowerManagement Apps using more battery life then they safe.
I don't know if this is right.
At the moment I'm running CM9 with modified auto-brightness options, auto-sync and 2G/3G/WIFI always on.
I'm really happy with the battery life I get, so I don't see why you would need a Battery Saver app with this phone.
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I use Power Controls widget.
Unless I'm actively using internet, I make sure to turn 4G data to 2G. That alone saves so much battery. If I want further battery saved, I disable internet completely with a touch of a widget. Now my phone will last a week just by what phones do best: Making phonecalls and texting.
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Heh, so why did you get a smart phone. Some older nokia's that can only talk and text can last for weeks on one charge, if you want a model # I can look it up 4 u.
What rom should I use and also what tweaks/scripts should I install to get the best battery life
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Hard to answer without testing some roms for yourself....
Synergy Rom is a good start which eliminates bloat from the provider...and then optimize the rom. Add a better kernel over stock like Imo or Ziggy and that took controlling CPU power (depending on your setting) can help gain better battery life...mean over 8+ or 12+ hours of life
30+ hours with almost 4 hours of screen time : cm10
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This isn't really a tweak or script, but turning off mobile data and using wifi helps a ton. Constantly searching for 3G or 4G connection is what kills my phone's battery.
Here is what helps me..
-turn off any data that doesn't need to be running in the background while you are using it i.e...gps, 4g, bluetooth. (Use "phone info" from the market to switch from 3g to 4g.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771840
-make email manual push. when you have email set to constantly search for new incoming messages it can run down more than needed. if nothing else switch to every 15-30 min.
- turn off all notifications that you dont need to be notified about
-screen brightness will be a HUGE battery eater. I have mine set at 1% most of the day which really helps. this screen is bright enough to have it that low and still see well.
-download "widgetsoid x2" free. a fully customizable toggle bar which will allow for easy on off for items like bluetooth, gps, wifi and gives you a brightness option to customize 3 settings. I have mine set for 1, 25 and 45%
-use setcpu or another app alike to control cpu. create a profile for "screen off".I set my profile at 348x486. this drops the processor while screen is in sleep mode and will save battery life.
-I dont know how effective this is, but I heard it helps and makes sense. Choose a dark wallpaper. Having a bright, full white wallpaper takes more battery life to display.
As for ROM's, its hard to say. there are so many things to take into consideration when someone says they got 30 hours on a rom vs the next person who only gets 12 hours. how much are they using it, what do they have running inthe background...etc. I tried both bean and synergy and I prefer bean. He just released R6 yesterday and people seem to like it a lot. I personally prefer R2, his original release. It has been super solid and I have had better results from it over 3.1, V5 and his late R6. My buddy has had GREAT results with synergy, but I did not. I gave it a week and ended up restoring back to bean.
download BatterySaver app from market. My s3 runs 12-15 hours on "Intelligent Mode"
Honestly, you can only do so much with software tweaks. If you're a hardcore power user, I suggest getting an extra battery of a similar size (~2000mah) or getting an extended battery.
As for what you can do to save battery, the only thing I can think of that people haven't already mentioned is turning off animations. It can make things feel a bit choppy, but you'll get things done faster, which means less screen time.
I just got upgraded from CM 9 stable to CM 10 stable and I love it. Only problem is battery life. I feel about a 10-15% reduction with the new upgrade. I've had CM 10 for about 4 days now. I don't want to touch the performance settings without knowing what I'm doing. Is there a way to change my performance settings to extend the battery life? Also has anybody played with a different kernel with CM 10 stable? Thanks
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I just got upgraded from CM 9 stable to CM 10 stable and I love it. Only problem is battery life. I feel about a 10-15% reduction with the new upgrade. I've had CM 10 for about 4 days now. I don't want to touch the performance settings without knowing what I'm doing. Is there a way to change my performance settings to extend the battery life? Also has anybody played with a different kernel with CM 10 stable? Thanks
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Don't worry about changing the cpu and governor settings. There is an option to set at boot. Make sure that is disabled, so if you have any problems a reboot will go back to default settings. I use the conservative governor, and have my minimum cpu speed set to 192. I've read that that speed is not entirely stable for many people, but seems to be working fine for me. That has been pretty good for battery life for me. I believe the default governor is interactive now, and the minimum cpu speed is set to 384 by default.
Do you just "feel" a battery difference, or do you have any actual numbers to back up that assertion? Keep a close eye on Settings / Battery and use Better Battery Stats to record solid numbers and identify what's actually eating your battery.
Also turn off google now location settings if ur not using it. They are really hard on the battery.
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Disable Google now and battery should be back to normal here is some pics. Cm10 default kernel,stock clocks, no UV, on demand governed, and deadline as scheduler
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Thanks for the replies.
It seems to be my screen that is responsible for eating up my battery. Have had the phone disconnected from the charger for 4 hours now and all I've done is 20 min with screen time doing a little bit of texting and facebook and my charge is at 75. I have the automatic brightness setting off and put my setting at pretty low.
The cell stand-by battery usage is 8% during these 4 hours. Should I maybe try another radio or is this normal? It lost signal for about 10 min today.
Just turned off google now and selected the conservative governor. Let's see if this makes a difference.
I used to be able to go all day with my phone with CM 9 and I even have the nexus battery.
Thank you for all your help
That's most definitely not normal, at least in my experience. Are you using the vanilla CM10 or some variant?
Some things to try:
Install Better Battery Stats (find the free version on XDA via a search) to see if any apps are causing wakelocks. This is a must.
Use CPU Spy or something similar to see if your phone is entering Deep Sleep. This is a must.
Turn off Google Now unless you actually use it
Turn off all unnecessary radios (WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS) unless you're actually using them
Turn off all auto-refresh settings in every app you have -- all social apps and weather are the biggies
For me, turning off the default auto-refresh in Facebook, Google+ and Twitter are massive savings alone, then Settings / Battery & BBS will help you locate the remainder of the headaches quite easily.
You might want to consider swapping kernels too, or at the very least reconsider your CPU governor and scheduler settings.
I would stay away from conservative governor you won't get much performance out of that, stick with what comes stock and use on demand.... even the default interactive sucks my battery down
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abehbeh said:
Thanks for the replies.
It seems to be my screen that is responsible for eating up my battery. Have had the phone disconnected from the charger for 4 hours now and all I've done is 20 min with screen time doing a little bit of texting and facebook and my charge is at 75. I have the automatic brightness setting off and put my setting at pretty low.
The cell stand-by battery usage is 8% during these 4 hours. Should I maybe try another radio or is this normal? It lost signal for about 10 min today.
Just turned off google now and selected the conservative governor. Let's see if this makes a difference.
I used to be able to go all day with my phone with CM 9 and I even have the nexus battery.
Thank you for all your help
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Don't use conservative, your phone is gonna be very slow and suck
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I'm currently running the vanilla CM10
Turned off google now location access and set the govern to on demand early this morning and it is performing a little better most def.
I have noticed that my phone lost signal 4 times during the day for periods varying 5-10 min. I am currently on the I727UCLF6 radio. I'm thinking maybe I should try another one. Could that help with that battery maybe?
I have been thinking about switching kernels but I am a little doubtful because I don't want to mess up my phone too much since I so heavily depend on it. I loved the hotcakez kernel that came with AOCP, maybe i'll give it a shot this weekend.
Thanks for all the help people! Def the best forum by far on the web.
abehbeh said:
I'm currently running the vanilla CM10
Turned off google now location access and set the govern to on demand early this morning and it is performing a little better most def.
I have noticed that my phone lost signal 4 times during the day for periods varying 5-10 min. I am currently on the I727UCLF6 radio. I'm thinking maybe I should try another one. Could that help with that battery maybe?
I have been thinking about switching kernels but I am a little doubtful because I don't want to mess up my phone too much since I so heavily depend on it. I loved the hotcakez kernel that came with AOCP, maybe i'll give it a shot this weekend.
Thanks for all the help people! Def the best forum by far on the web.
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Just do a nandroid backup of the entire phone first before installing a new kernel and your risk drops to zero. If you install it and it all goes to hell, just boot back into recovery and restore your backup.
As for radio ... if you drop signal that often and your phone is constantly searching for one, I suppose that could impact the battery, sure. Are you certain you're in an area with solid coverage, though?
Learn more about the different governors and schedulers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950084
Yea I might have to play around with some kernels this weekend. Luckily it is a long weekend so I'll have some time if I mess up
My phone will go from 4 bars and a good signal at -78 dBM in my apartment and then randomly I'll lose signal for abut 5-10 minutes. A restart usually does the trick or I can just wait until it regains the signal which can be frustrating. I never had any problems with my signal at home running CM 10 so that leads me to think that there might be some problems with the radio.
Just want to confirm that these are the 5 radios I can use for AT&T even though I'm running JB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1754473
I've been using a UCLI3 modem I found on XDA a couple of weeks ago, it has been incredibly stable and strong for me. But as many people far wiser than me have said elsewhere, everyone's mileage with radios varies and it really just takes some testing to see what works best for you.
so I should be able to run the 5 ICS radios I found eventho im running jb right?
thanks for your help
abehbeh said:
so I should be able to run the 5 ICS radios I found eventho im running jb right?
thanks for your help
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Yeah if they are for the skyrocket.
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Include your ROM, kernel, governor, and I/o scheduler. I seem to be getting bad battery life with CM10.1 and the tuxafgmur kernel. Not even lasting a whole 24 hours with just average internetting.
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P3110 with Cm10.1 with Cm kernel, 6 hours of continuous screen turned on
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P5100 4.1.2 kernel 3.0.31, TGP rom Version 1
less than 24 hours of no activity at all, from 80% to 0% - but probably somthing was eating the battery, maybe screen was left on, or live wallpaper
so testing again, now seems allot better, 3% down over night, looks good so far
I can get over 20 hrs on one charge with carbon ROM. Oc at 1200, stock kernel, stock performance options. Interactive governor, cfq I/o. I play the sims and the Simpsons, and browse the web pretty regularly. I'm happy with it.
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I can get over 20 hrs on one charge with carbon ROM. Oc at 1200, stock kernel, stock performance options. Interactive governor, cfq I/o. I play the sims and the Simpsons, and browse the web pretty regularly. I'm happy with it.
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Doesn't it overheat? Or heat even a little too much? Also that Carbon ROM looks good according to what a lot are saying.
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I'm on a P-5113, so probably a difference. But, really liking PAC Rom. Got the Dhollmen kernel running @1.2ghz with pegasusq and cfq w/1024 cache. With fairly high usage I go two days and still have about 30% left. With very little use like I did this week, I just charged it last night and took it off the charger Sunday morning (yeah 5 days!) and still had 30% when I plugged in. I really like my current setup:good:
ya it does tend to get pretty warm, but i havent had any overheating issues. no random fc's or anything. i love the carbon rom. everything i have been using actually f*ck*ng works. lol. the expanded desktop and pie controls are sweet