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I'm going to try to purchase my Nexus S before class tomorrow when they open. Don't want to take any chances on it selling out. Would it be wise to turn it on and use it a while during the morning? Or does the battery need to be fully charged before using it to condition it and ensure a good battery life? I've read many battery tips but i'm still a little confused on whats better for a new battery.
CaliLove310 said:
I'm going to try to purchase my Nexus S before class tomorrow when they open. Don't want to take any chances on it selling out. Would it be wise to turn it on and use it a while during the morning? Or does the battery need to be fully charged before using it to condition it and ensure a good battery life? I've read many battery tips but i'm still a little confused on whats better for a new battery.
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When you get it, deplete it, but do not let it die. Ever. Then just cycle it normally.
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When you get it, deplete it, but do not let it die. Ever. Then just cycle it normally.
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What do you mean by "die".... like to 0%, if so what should we take it down to?
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What do you mean by "die".... like to 0%, if so what should we take it down to?
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Yes, by letting your battery "die", per se, you're letting it deplete to 0%. I'd say for safe measure, between 5%-9%. But if you're in the vicinity of a charger take it down to 2%. If not, turn it off at 5%, then plug it in before powering it back on. My devices' daily life lasts so long (on all devices I own) because I properly know how to cycle a battery.
If you let your battery die (0%), it'll lose more and more charge (on a 0.00% level) every time. When you get it tomorrow though, it should have ~50%-60% charge.
CaliLove310 said:
I'm going to try to purchase my Nexus S before class tomorrow when they open. Don't want to take any chances on it selling out. Would it be wise to turn it on and use it a while during the morning? Or does the battery need to be fully charged before using it to condition it and ensure a good battery life? I've read many battery tips but i'm still a little confused on whats better for a new battery.
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There's no need for that, only if it doesn't have any juice.
More info: batteryuniversity dot com
Battery life?
So how are your batteries doing? Mine is kind of crappy. What supposedly changed in 2.3? I see no difference in the reporting of apps in Battery Use and they took away Battery History in the hidden system settings. Where is the graph everyone talked about?
You gotta give it a few charging cycles for the battery to reach it's full potential. Give its few days, you'll notice it will get better after you charged it a few times.
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The battery life on mine is chugging along pretty well. I gave it a full charge before hitting the streets. Its been 4 hours with wifi and GPS on with a couple dozen pictures taken and a bunch of apps dl and installed. used maps 5.0 and periodically hit the GPS for my position getting really good accuracy while driving and the battery level still has a little more than 4/5s battery life still remaining
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So how are your batteries doing? Mine is kind of crappy. What supposedly changed in 2.3? I see no difference in the reporting of apps in Battery Use and they took away Battery History in the hidden system settings. Where is the graph everyone talked about?
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You haven't broken it in yet, use your brain.
The phones barely been out that long, it takes a while to have good statistics about battery life.
Myth on lion
rashad1 said:
You haven't broken it in yet, use your brain.
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I haven't even reached the full 100% charge yet, been using it then charging it some then using it then charging it some. Lol
hah2110 said:
So how are your batteries doing? Mine is kind of crappy. What supposedly changed in 2.3? I see no difference in the reporting of apps in Battery Use and they took away Battery History in the hidden system settings. Where is the graph everyone talked about?
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Myth on lion
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That's funny because every company that sells back up batteries tell you to go through 4-5 full cycles before it reaches its potential. I guess you're right, and they're all wrong.
They are wrong. Google it
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how do I train my battery it was halfway charged when i got it do I let it die and then put it on the charger thanks!
EDIT:WRONG SECTION DELETE THIS MODS!
I've always charged all the way up then ran the battery all the way down, then charged all the way up again. Then periodically, I will run the battery all the way down just to give it a little exercise. So far out of all the cell phones I have had I have had 1 battery go bad on me, that was 8-10years ago.
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how do I train my battery it was halfway charged when i got it do I let it die and then put it on the charger thanks!
matter of opinion really.... I would kill it by playing with it.... then do a full charge
that is what I am doing
Generally the suggested method is to charge it for 8-12 hours as soon as you can, then use it until it gets very low, then charge for another 8-12 hours. Do this cycle about 3 to 4 times and you've got yourself a healthy battery.
Killing the battery entirely, despite popular belief, can have some negative effects on its health. Especially during is conditioning phase.
I just got the Sensation, loving it so far... it came with ~ 40% battery so I'm charging it for the first time now, is there anything special I have to do? Leave it charged for a certain amount of time? Does it hurt if I don't charge it all the way to 100% the first time?
Also, what's the easiest way to tell which panel (Sharp or AUO) LCD screen I have?
thanks!
There's a lot of ways people say. I have tried several and went from the way I use to do them. I have a replacement atm and its charging fully with the phone off.
I use to - charge - kill - charge - kill - then use it however. I've never had battery problems before with all the years of doing this method. I try the ways here and now I have them. I'll stick to my original from now on.
Personally, Just do a full charge when you go to bed. Wait for S-OFF. Flash a more optimized ROM, (Hopefully we will see Cyanogenmod 7). People are all really tedious about this whole battery thing. Li-Ion battery's are wonderful. Just use it. and When you see your battery in the red. Charge it.
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Personally, Just do a full charge when you go to bed. Wait for S-OFF. Flash a more optimized ROM, (Hopefully we will see Cyanogenmod 7). People are all really tedious about this whole battery thing. Li-Ion battery's are wonderful. Just use it. and When you see your battery in the red. Charge it.
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thanks... I cannot wait for CM7
these batteries do not need to be conditioned... In fact deep cyling is bad for them.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169979
Says a lot here
Exactly, lithium ion batts don't need any special treatment or even an initial charge. A battery calibration every once in a while or with a new ROM is a good idea but that's a software issue not the battery itself.
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great, thanks for the responses guys
Conditioning is misunderstood for building battery stats. While li-ion batteries don't need conditioning, phone DOES need to build battery stats. It doesn't matter how you do it with first charge, but DO run phone through a few full 0-100-0 cycles. It builds correct stats.
Just charge it and use it. As most of the guys above said, these batteries do not need any conditioning. What people are referring to when they say battery conditioning, is the OS's battery meter. The OS won't always give you an accurate reading eg: saying the battery is low when it isn't, or saying the battery is fully charged when it's not.
When people flash roms, a lot of the time their battery readings will be a little off at first and people would freak out, and so started this whole battery calibration bull crap. Oh, G1, those were the days.
I know some people say to fully charge-discharge-charge again the first time you use the device, others say not to do this, others say just fully discharge once a month to calibrate the battery. Well when I first got this phone, I charged it up before using it, then used it down pretty low but not a full discharge, then charged it and used it normally, and my battery life is pretty poor now. Was it bad to discharge it that much on first use? What do you guys do for the first few uses/charges?
You do nothing.
Just charge it and use it. Anything else is just a placebo.
There is no such thing as battery calibration. Battery stats may become inconsistent overtime, but a restart resets them and going down the full charge it becomes normal again. Just... use the thing as Rusty! said. :cyclops:
Thanks for the replies, that's good to hear. What about the fact that I used it down to single digits on my first use (after a charge)? Could this be harmful to it?
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Thanks for the replies, that's good to hear. What about the fact that I used it down to single digits on my first use (after a charge)? Could this be harmful to it?
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The biggest harm you should avoid is your battery getting molten hot.
No.
Thank you all for the replies....very good to know. After coming across a few articles that said anything too low isn't good for it, I was concerned that was doubly true for its first use. Glad to have it cleared up.
Visit this site Battery University
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Tells you more than you need.
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The GN3 is an amazing phone - I love it, even with stock rom it easily lasts 2 days with about 3-5 hours screen time - which makes me ask, do/should you still charge every night?
For Note 1 and Note 2, going 2 days was pushing it, so I always charged nightly, but with Note 3, I'm wondering whether I shouldn't charge as much since it easily does 2 days?
the reason I ask is, the myths about charging too much, or leaving charged for too long, etc may ruin or reduce the life of your battery.
I still charge every time I'm next to a charger (at the office) even though I know my phone will last me another day or so.... I just like to see the battery over 50% - but is this going to ruin my batter quicker? always charging? and unplug and replug many times a day....
what does everyone else do? to charge or not to charge?
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The GN3 is an amazing phone - I love it, even with stock rom it easily lasts 2 days with about 3-5 hours screen time - which makes me ask, do/should you still charge every night?
For Note 1 and Note 2, going 2 days was pushing it, so I always charged nightly, but with Note 3, I'm wondering whether I shouldn't charge as much since it easily does 2 days?
the reason I ask is, the myths about charging too much, or leaving charged for too long, etc may ruin or reduce the life of your battery.
I still charge every time I'm next to a charger (at the office) even though I know my phone will last me another day or so.... I just like to see the battery over 50% - but is this going to ruin my batter quicker? always charging? and unplug and replug many times a day....
what does everyone else do? to charge or not to charge?
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The number of recharges (the lifetime of the battery) is clearly limited so if possible I am charging in a very conservative way - once every 2 days if it works that way. But that is not always possible (and in some days I charge after a single day), plus as a backup I have a 2nd battery (fully-charged) in my backpack.
Well, I recharge it every night with no worries. If the battery loses its capacity to a point that it cannot handle a full day I'll just buy another one.
Yes there are limited life cycles to a batery so you have to charge smart. Well if you use it... you should at least once a month use up all the battery and leave it uncharged for 4 to 6 hours after it shuts down. If it turns on its not the time to charge ot yet... let it rest another couple of hours. That way you always have the full battery at your disposal, not only a part of it... thats my experience...
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That's the beauty of having a removeable battery. You can charge everynight without worries of shortening the battery's lifespan.
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jvarzim said:
Yes there are limited life cycles to a batery so you have to charge smart. Well if you use it... you should at least once a month use up all the battery and leave it uncharged for 4 to 6 hours after it shuts down. If it turns on its not the time to charge ot yet... let it rest another couple of hours. That way you always have the full battery at your disposal, not only a part of it... thats my experience...
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Yeah, actually the worst you can do to an modern battery is to discharge it to deep...This will kill lifetime everytime you're doing this.
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sbm888 said:
The GN3 is an amazing phone - I love it, even with stock rom it easily lasts 2 days with about 3-5 hours screen time - which makes me ask, do/should you still charge every night?
For Note 1 and Note 2, going 2 days was pushing it, so I always charged nightly, but with Note 3, I'm wondering whether I shouldn't charge as much since it easily does 2 days?
the reason I ask is, the myths about charging too much, or leaving charged for too long, etc may ruin or reduce the life of your battery.
I still charge every time I'm next to a charger (at the office) even though I know my phone will last me another day or so.... I just like to see the battery over 50% - but is this going to ruin my batter quicker? always charging? and unplug and replug many times a day....
what does everyone else do? to charge or not to charge?
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The number of recharges (the lifetime of the battery) is clearly limited so if possible I am charging in a very conservative way - once every 2 days if it works that way. But that is not always possible (and in some days I charge after a single day), plus as a backup I have a 2nd battery (fully-charged) in my backpack.
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Yes there are limited life cycles to a batery so you have to charge smart. Well if you use it... you should at least once a month use up all the battery and leave it uncharged for 4 to 6 hours after it shuts down. If it turns on its not the time to charge ot yet... let it rest another couple of hours. That way you always have the full battery at your disposal, not only a part of it... thats my experience...
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Yeah, actually the worst you can do to an modern battery is to discharge it to deep...This will kill lifetime everytime you're doing this.
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Read this: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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Only empty the batterie once! (at first start to calibrate the phone)
Charge before below 30%
Charge as slowly as possible
Use google before posting nonsense
Thanks to the rest who know what they're talking about!
ps. This can be noticed when charging when dead it will be dead within a day after 2weeks of letting the batterie die everytime.
If you then charge every night again it will recover some and last longer after a while.
Let's bust a few myths here, first.
Drain cycle: Not needed. On the old batteries, you needed to do a full drain every month or some because it build up a memory. That's ancient history. It is infact very bad for your battery to do so on these new ones. Refrain from fully draining it unless you're having issues with the calibration. (Ex. if it shuts down at 20%.) Drain it once the very first time you get it. Not ever again after that without serious cause.
Best to keep at 100%: Hell no. Fully charged, particularly keeping it at fully charged, is actually quite bad for a Lithium-Ion battery.
Lithium-Ion batteries in consumer products last about 300-500 full charges before they start showing serious degradation in strength. The fuller you charge it and the longer you keep it on the charger, the lower that number becomes. Charging from 50% to 90% might make you 800 charges, where 10% to 100% will only last 300 charges.
It is best to keep the device between 30% and 90%. It is also better to charge small increments than long charges. So it's preferable to charge from 70 to 90% each time as opposed to waiting 3 days and charging from 5% to 100%.
There's been quite a number of threads all over XDA for various devices with this same question
Technology is always evolving.
But when you post a link to a specialist website you must have seen the first link who talks exacly of what I was talking about.
batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration
None the less it's possible, and I agree with the last post (it makes perfect sense) that things are now diferent.
That's why we use foruns in the first place. There are not smart users, and the others...
We all want to learn something...
Thank you for bringing some new knowledge to me.
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jvarzim said:
Technology is always evolving.
But when you post a link to a specialist website you must have seen the first link who talks exacly of what I was talking about.
batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration
None the less it's possible, and I agree with the last post (it makes perfect sense) that things are now diferent.
That's why we use foruns in the first place. There are not smart users, and the others...
We all want to learn something...
Thank you for bringing some new knowledge to me.
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If my battery level below %50 I do.
Hi guys,
I've a short time my note 3 but Im a little bit dissapointed because of battery life, I have note 3 for 3 days and battery life is terrible, I did factory reset and now it seems look good. Just tell me if this is normal that Android system drains battery almost like display. Is this stats good ?
Thank you
Biker1121 said:
Hi guys,
I've a short time my note 3 but Im a little bit dissapointed because of battery life, I have note 3 for 3 days and battery life is terrible, I did factory reset and now it seems look good. Just tell me if this is normal that Android system drains battery almost like display. Is this stats good ?
Thank you
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Yes, that's normal. It's a KitKat thing. Most people have it sitting somewhere around 25%, so 15% is nice.
A highly inaccuate KitKat thing, at that. Yesterday I played Oh Edu! Towns (a town building game that's quite heavy) for 8 hours straight, and it(stock, BBS and GSAM) said the game used 2% and Android OS 22%. Somehow I doubt that.
ShadowLea said:
Yes, that's normal. It's a KitKat thing. Most people have it sitting somewhere around 25%, so 15% is nice.
A highly inaccuate KitKat thing, at that. Yesterday I played Oh Edu! Towns (a town building game that's quite heavy) for 8 hours straight, and it(stock, BBS and GSAM) said the game used 2% and Android OS 22%. Somehow I doubt that.
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Do u think that custom rom like Omega will solve problem with battery life? I've got root I will just flash rcovery and rom.
I'm charging whenever I have the chance, always need to be on a high-level charge, preferably 90% and more.
There are some myths regarding charging habits that might extend the life span of the battery, one of which is to unplug the phone when the charge level hits 100%.
That works for me so far, I have been charging this way since July 2013
I charge it several times a day after the KitKat update. My HTC one was great with the update, yet my Note 3 battery life took a dive. I used to get well over a day (24 hours and some minutes) with about 4-5 hours screen time with jelly bean. Now I get 14 or so with 3 hours screen time. I've factory reset, tried greenify (no root, sucks) disabled everything and still don't get much more.
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Lets be honest, most of the people here tend to upgrade to the newer phone when it comes out, depending on how much better it is of course, so we tend to have a phone for 2 years or less...
Most batteries will live that long with no problem and by the time you're ready to offload you "old" phone for an upgrade, batteries cost a few $on ebay so even if it requires a new battery it isn't too expensive...
A battery should easily last you for the amount of time you're going to be using it barring of course power surges, misuse or just a faulty battery....
Charge away and be happy. If it dies it's replaceable...
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That works for me so far, I have been charging this way since July 2013
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Impressive, considering this phone was announced 4 September 2013..
ShadowLea said:
Impressive, considering this phone was announced 4 September 2013..
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Oh Man, sorry for that...
I own a Note 3 and a S4, and I just wanted to share my experience with the battery charging habits of the S4, since in this category I'm quite sure it applies to the Note 3 also.
BTW, I've been doing the same (Battery charging) for the Note 3 also.
I do but usually at 500mah when I sleep.
I've had a note 1 and currently use the note 3. I NEVER get more than 12 hours out of my phone. in fact, I carry 2 batteries with my note 3, the note 1 was even worse, I had to carry at least 3 batteries with me to keep me going for the day, and when I say the day, i mean like 18 hours. I'll freely admit that I use my phone more like a netbook than a telephone. I very rarely actually talk on the phone, instead using my phone mostly as a tablet for use with facebook, feedly, web browsing, a couple games, taking notes (evernote ftw), twitter, foursquare, pandora and maps, the occasional email, taking photos. with the battery drain level of the note 3, I'd really have liked to see a battery with roughly twice the capacity to keep me happy for a day, possibly a day and a half with slightly more casual use.
that having been said, yes, i charge every night, because one battery is dead and the other is at 5% or so when it's time for bed. - thankfully I invested in a charge dock which charges the battery in my phone while it charges a spare.
I've been an avid follower of Accubattery and keeping my battery from degrading...BUT I'm curious if anyone knows, is this still a thing in 2020 with the N20U?
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210224725-Charging-research-and-methodology
They appear to have sound research on it but wondered if anyone else has information about it?
Huh? I've been charging my phones to 100% since 2008. Don't worry about it.
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I think it stands for old batteries and chargers, that charged them at a constant rate while lithium ones are sensitive to heat (at least) and need variable voltage and current depending of their actual charge level or they degrade faster over time.
And that exactly what the Power Delivery standard does which Samsung phones are compliant since the Note 10 if I'm not wrong.
So i wouldn't mind charging to 100%
I've been charging my phones to 100% and leaving them on the charger overnight for years! I've never seen any noticeable degradation of the battery life due to this.
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Huh? I've been charging my phones to 100% since 2008. Don't worry about it.
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Pretty much this lol.
I try not to leave them on the charger all night these days but I did that for years also and no issues either.
Not worth the hassle for me. I've had slight battery degradation if I keep a phone two years, but hardly worth daily struggles. I usually upgrade after a year anyway, haha.
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Pretty much this lol.
I try not to leave them on the charger all night these days but I did that for years also and no issues either.
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We also change phones every 6-12 months [emoji1787]
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We also change phones every 6-12 months [emoji1787]
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Haha yeah thats a good point...never have one long to even think about battery issues lol
I charge my Note 10+ to 80% and Accubattery shows battery health at 99.95%
I have noticed battery health falling about 8% in one year of use if you always charge to 100%. That being said, I think Samsung has improved batteries a lot and Note10+ onwards use special battery that degrades slower than previous devices
The old 40%-80% was for older technology batteries. Even then it only extended the battery life marginally, and only over many years. it's not like it's a magic cure to make your battery last a significantly long time.
Just charge the phone to 100% whenever you need to, and don't worry about how often yo need to charge it. Battery technology has come so far, and it doesn't matter how often you charge them or how high. There's technology in there to stop charging once it reaches 100% so that it doesn't overcharge.
On the Tab S tablet and under the charging setting there's a protect battery toggle where it will charge the battery to 85%.
I don't know why they don't have this option on their phones but I'm not sure how necessary it really is.
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I still do the 20%-80% thing...lol...
I'm kinda OCD
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I had great success on my note 9 with the 80 percent charge. Over the long haul it seemed to me to keep getting better. I am doing it now to see how it goes . I also avoid fast charging as much as possible to see if that helps as well. I wasn't aware that they made changes since the note 9 ,so maybe it's all for nothing.
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I seem to be on a “how to” kick this AM .... so I understand the debate about 80 vs 100
But how in the heck do you guys actually accomplish only charging to 80%?? I’m so busy I can’t remember to do half the stuff that I really need to remember , let alone remember to take my phone off the charger.
Also do you guys just turn of all 3 of the “fast charging” options in the settings , unless you need them at a particular time?
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I seem to be on a “how to” kick this AM .... so I understand the debate about 80 vs 100
But how in the heck do you guys actually accomplish only charging to 80%?? I’m so busy I can’t remember to do half the stuff that I really need to remember , let alone remember to take my phone off the charger.
Also do you guys just turn of all 3 of the “fast charging” options in the settings , unless you need them at a particular time?
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I used to turn of all fast charging options. I also would find a routine where the time needed to charge matched the time I was doing something without the phone. For me in the morning when getting ready for work was the best time . Had it down to a science, and the alarm from accu battery helps me as well. It does go kinda rough at first, but after a month or so , I did notice that the charges to 80 lasted longer, then it was down to once a day.
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I bought this nifty little gadget called a Chargie (chargie.org). DHL/USPS still jerking me around on delivery so I've not yet received it, but oddly excited about trying it.
Have you guys noticed with wireless charging the phone is still warm after reaching 100 percent.
Chargi
k.babymamma said:
I bought this nifty little gadget called a Chargie (chargie.org). DHL/USPS still jerking me around on delivery so I've not yet received it, but oddly excited about trying it.
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Woow this is exqactlz i was looking for thanks
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Have you guys noticed with wireless charging the phone is still warm after reaching 100 percent.
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Did you finally get and does it work well as advertised?
I opened a separate thread some time ago and people advised to use 30-80 range. I also have Accubattery and follow this principle religiously. However, no matter how I do it, the power charge cycle goes up like crazy. My phone is 2 weeks old and the cycle is now 15 whilst it says the average life is 400-500 cycles. I never bothered about this with my previous phones but don't know what to do with this one. I want it to serve for at least 2 years before I upgrade.