I've been an avid follower of Accubattery and keeping my battery from degrading...BUT I'm curious if anyone knows, is this still a thing in 2020 with the N20U?
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210224725-Charging-research-and-methodology
They appear to have sound research on it but wondered if anyone else has information about it?
Huh? I've been charging my phones to 100% since 2008. Don't worry about it.
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I think it stands for old batteries and chargers, that charged them at a constant rate while lithium ones are sensitive to heat (at least) and need variable voltage and current depending of their actual charge level or they degrade faster over time.
And that exactly what the Power Delivery standard does which Samsung phones are compliant since the Note 10 if I'm not wrong.
So i wouldn't mind charging to 100%
I've been charging my phones to 100% and leaving them on the charger overnight for years! I've never seen any noticeable degradation of the battery life due to this.
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Huh? I've been charging my phones to 100% since 2008. Don't worry about it.
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Pretty much this lol.
I try not to leave them on the charger all night these days but I did that for years also and no issues either.
Not worth the hassle for me. I've had slight battery degradation if I keep a phone two years, but hardly worth daily struggles. I usually upgrade after a year anyway, haha.
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Pretty much this lol.
I try not to leave them on the charger all night these days but I did that for years also and no issues either.
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We also change phones every 6-12 months [emoji1787]
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We also change phones every 6-12 months [emoji1787]
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Haha yeah thats a good point...never have one long to even think about battery issues lol
I charge my Note 10+ to 80% and Accubattery shows battery health at 99.95%
I have noticed battery health falling about 8% in one year of use if you always charge to 100%. That being said, I think Samsung has improved batteries a lot and Note10+ onwards use special battery that degrades slower than previous devices
The old 40%-80% was for older technology batteries. Even then it only extended the battery life marginally, and only over many years. it's not like it's a magic cure to make your battery last a significantly long time.
Just charge the phone to 100% whenever you need to, and don't worry about how often yo need to charge it. Battery technology has come so far, and it doesn't matter how often you charge them or how high. There's technology in there to stop charging once it reaches 100% so that it doesn't overcharge.
On the Tab S tablet and under the charging setting there's a protect battery toggle where it will charge the battery to 85%.
I don't know why they don't have this option on their phones but I'm not sure how necessary it really is.
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I still do the 20%-80% thing...lol...
I'm kinda OCD
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I had great success on my note 9 with the 80 percent charge. Over the long haul it seemed to me to keep getting better. I am doing it now to see how it goes . I also avoid fast charging as much as possible to see if that helps as well. I wasn't aware that they made changes since the note 9 ,so maybe it's all for nothing.
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I seem to be on a “how to” kick this AM .... so I understand the debate about 80 vs 100
But how in the heck do you guys actually accomplish only charging to 80%?? I’m so busy I can’t remember to do half the stuff that I really need to remember , let alone remember to take my phone off the charger.
Also do you guys just turn of all 3 of the “fast charging” options in the settings , unless you need them at a particular time?
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I seem to be on a “how to” kick this AM .... so I understand the debate about 80 vs 100
But how in the heck do you guys actually accomplish only charging to 80%?? I’m so busy I can’t remember to do half the stuff that I really need to remember , let alone remember to take my phone off the charger.
Also do you guys just turn of all 3 of the “fast charging” options in the settings , unless you need them at a particular time?
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I used to turn of all fast charging options. I also would find a routine where the time needed to charge matched the time I was doing something without the phone. For me in the morning when getting ready for work was the best time . Had it down to a science, and the alarm from accu battery helps me as well. It does go kinda rough at first, but after a month or so , I did notice that the charges to 80 lasted longer, then it was down to once a day.
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I bought this nifty little gadget called a Chargie (chargie.org). DHL/USPS still jerking me around on delivery so I've not yet received it, but oddly excited about trying it.
Have you guys noticed with wireless charging the phone is still warm after reaching 100 percent.
Chargi
k.babymamma said:
I bought this nifty little gadget called a Chargie (chargie.org). DHL/USPS still jerking me around on delivery so I've not yet received it, but oddly excited about trying it.
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Woow this is exqactlz i was looking for thanks
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Have you guys noticed with wireless charging the phone is still warm after reaching 100 percent.
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Did you finally get and does it work well as advertised?
I opened a separate thread some time ago and people advised to use 30-80 range. I also have Accubattery and follow this principle religiously. However, no matter how I do it, the power charge cycle goes up like crazy. My phone is 2 weeks old and the cycle is now 15 whilst it says the average life is 400-500 cycles. I never bothered about this with my previous phones but don't know what to do with this one. I want it to serve for at least 2 years before I upgrade.
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Hi, I'm getting a Nexus 5 today, and by some reason, everyone in my country (sales person) recommends to charge a new phone for 24 hours to "maximize" the numbers of hours that the phone's battery will last after this initial charge, however, I've always find that theory not so logical, could you tell me if this actually works, or a simple full charge would do the job? Thank you, I appreciate the help!
I suppose that would be true if it were 1998 when all phones had NiCd batteries. Charge and go my friend and figure out what your friends are smokin' (sounds like some high grade stuff).
good day.
chopper the dog said:
I suppose that would be true if it were 1998 when all phones had NiCd batteries. Charge and go my friend and figure out what your friends are smokin' (sounds like some high grade stuff).
good day.
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Haha, thanks! I will give it a regular full charge then!
Yea, it no longer matters at all. Charge whenever you are near power. Even if its only for a few %, it makes no difference. The days where you have to condition a battery by charging it to the top and then letting it drain all the way are over. Now you charge whenever you can and it makes absolutely no difference.
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Yea, it no longer matters at all. Charge whenever you are near power. Even if its only for a few %, it makes no difference. The days where you have to condition a battery by charging it to the top and then letting it drain all the way are over. Now you charge whenever you can and it makes absolutely no difference.
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Thank you, it's good to know that I'll do it that way!
The GN3 is an amazing phone - I love it, even with stock rom it easily lasts 2 days with about 3-5 hours screen time - which makes me ask, do/should you still charge every night?
For Note 1 and Note 2, going 2 days was pushing it, so I always charged nightly, but with Note 3, I'm wondering whether I shouldn't charge as much since it easily does 2 days?
the reason I ask is, the myths about charging too much, or leaving charged for too long, etc may ruin or reduce the life of your battery.
I still charge every time I'm next to a charger (at the office) even though I know my phone will last me another day or so.... I just like to see the battery over 50% - but is this going to ruin my batter quicker? always charging? and unplug and replug many times a day....
what does everyone else do? to charge or not to charge?
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The GN3 is an amazing phone - I love it, even with stock rom it easily lasts 2 days with about 3-5 hours screen time - which makes me ask, do/should you still charge every night?
For Note 1 and Note 2, going 2 days was pushing it, so I always charged nightly, but with Note 3, I'm wondering whether I shouldn't charge as much since it easily does 2 days?
the reason I ask is, the myths about charging too much, or leaving charged for too long, etc may ruin or reduce the life of your battery.
I still charge every time I'm next to a charger (at the office) even though I know my phone will last me another day or so.... I just like to see the battery over 50% - but is this going to ruin my batter quicker? always charging? and unplug and replug many times a day....
what does everyone else do? to charge or not to charge?
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The number of recharges (the lifetime of the battery) is clearly limited so if possible I am charging in a very conservative way - once every 2 days if it works that way. But that is not always possible (and in some days I charge after a single day), plus as a backup I have a 2nd battery (fully-charged) in my backpack.
Well, I recharge it every night with no worries. If the battery loses its capacity to a point that it cannot handle a full day I'll just buy another one.
Yes there are limited life cycles to a batery so you have to charge smart. Well if you use it... you should at least once a month use up all the battery and leave it uncharged for 4 to 6 hours after it shuts down. If it turns on its not the time to charge ot yet... let it rest another couple of hours. That way you always have the full battery at your disposal, not only a part of it... thats my experience...
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That's the beauty of having a removeable battery. You can charge everynight without worries of shortening the battery's lifespan.
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jvarzim said:
Yes there are limited life cycles to a batery so you have to charge smart. Well if you use it... you should at least once a month use up all the battery and leave it uncharged for 4 to 6 hours after it shuts down. If it turns on its not the time to charge ot yet... let it rest another couple of hours. That way you always have the full battery at your disposal, not only a part of it... thats my experience...
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Yeah, actually the worst you can do to an modern battery is to discharge it to deep...This will kill lifetime everytime you're doing this.
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sbm888 said:
The GN3 is an amazing phone - I love it, even with stock rom it easily lasts 2 days with about 3-5 hours screen time - which makes me ask, do/should you still charge every night?
For Note 1 and Note 2, going 2 days was pushing it, so I always charged nightly, but with Note 3, I'm wondering whether I shouldn't charge as much since it easily does 2 days?
the reason I ask is, the myths about charging too much, or leaving charged for too long, etc may ruin or reduce the life of your battery.
I still charge every time I'm next to a charger (at the office) even though I know my phone will last me another day or so.... I just like to see the battery over 50% - but is this going to ruin my batter quicker? always charging? and unplug and replug many times a day....
what does everyone else do? to charge or not to charge?
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The number of recharges (the lifetime of the battery) is clearly limited so if possible I am charging in a very conservative way - once every 2 days if it works that way. But that is not always possible (and in some days I charge after a single day), plus as a backup I have a 2nd battery (fully-charged) in my backpack.
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Yes there are limited life cycles to a batery so you have to charge smart. Well if you use it... you should at least once a month use up all the battery and leave it uncharged for 4 to 6 hours after it shuts down. If it turns on its not the time to charge ot yet... let it rest another couple of hours. That way you always have the full battery at your disposal, not only a part of it... thats my experience...
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Yeah, actually the worst you can do to an modern battery is to discharge it to deep...This will kill lifetime everytime you're doing this.
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Read this: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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TL:DR
Only empty the batterie once! (at first start to calibrate the phone)
Charge before below 30%
Charge as slowly as possible
Use google before posting nonsense
Thanks to the rest who know what they're talking about!
ps. This can be noticed when charging when dead it will be dead within a day after 2weeks of letting the batterie die everytime.
If you then charge every night again it will recover some and last longer after a while.
Let's bust a few myths here, first.
Drain cycle: Not needed. On the old batteries, you needed to do a full drain every month or some because it build up a memory. That's ancient history. It is infact very bad for your battery to do so on these new ones. Refrain from fully draining it unless you're having issues with the calibration. (Ex. if it shuts down at 20%.) Drain it once the very first time you get it. Not ever again after that without serious cause.
Best to keep at 100%: Hell no. Fully charged, particularly keeping it at fully charged, is actually quite bad for a Lithium-Ion battery.
Lithium-Ion batteries in consumer products last about 300-500 full charges before they start showing serious degradation in strength. The fuller you charge it and the longer you keep it on the charger, the lower that number becomes. Charging from 50% to 90% might make you 800 charges, where 10% to 100% will only last 300 charges.
It is best to keep the device between 30% and 90%. It is also better to charge small increments than long charges. So it's preferable to charge from 70 to 90% each time as opposed to waiting 3 days and charging from 5% to 100%.
There's been quite a number of threads all over XDA for various devices with this same question
Technology is always evolving.
But when you post a link to a specialist website you must have seen the first link who talks exacly of what I was talking about.
batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration
None the less it's possible, and I agree with the last post (it makes perfect sense) that things are now diferent.
That's why we use foruns in the first place. There are not smart users, and the others...
We all want to learn something...
Thank you for bringing some new knowledge to me.
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jvarzim said:
Technology is always evolving.
But when you post a link to a specialist website you must have seen the first link who talks exacly of what I was talking about.
batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration
None the less it's possible, and I agree with the last post (it makes perfect sense) that things are now diferent.
That's why we use foruns in the first place. There are not smart users, and the others...
We all want to learn something...
Thank you for bringing some new knowledge to me.
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If my battery level below %50 I do.
Hi guys,
I've a short time my note 3 but Im a little bit dissapointed because of battery life, I have note 3 for 3 days and battery life is terrible, I did factory reset and now it seems look good. Just tell me if this is normal that Android system drains battery almost like display. Is this stats good ?
Thank you
Biker1121 said:
Hi guys,
I've a short time my note 3 but Im a little bit dissapointed because of battery life, I have note 3 for 3 days and battery life is terrible, I did factory reset and now it seems look good. Just tell me if this is normal that Android system drains battery almost like display. Is this stats good ?
Thank you
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Yes, that's normal. It's a KitKat thing. Most people have it sitting somewhere around 25%, so 15% is nice.
A highly inaccuate KitKat thing, at that. Yesterday I played Oh Edu! Towns (a town building game that's quite heavy) for 8 hours straight, and it(stock, BBS and GSAM) said the game used 2% and Android OS 22%. Somehow I doubt that.
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Yes, that's normal. It's a KitKat thing. Most people have it sitting somewhere around 25%, so 15% is nice.
A highly inaccuate KitKat thing, at that. Yesterday I played Oh Edu! Towns (a town building game that's quite heavy) for 8 hours straight, and it(stock, BBS and GSAM) said the game used 2% and Android OS 22%. Somehow I doubt that.
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Do u think that custom rom like Omega will solve problem with battery life? I've got root I will just flash rcovery and rom.
I'm charging whenever I have the chance, always need to be on a high-level charge, preferably 90% and more.
There are some myths regarding charging habits that might extend the life span of the battery, one of which is to unplug the phone when the charge level hits 100%.
That works for me so far, I have been charging this way since July 2013
I charge it several times a day after the KitKat update. My HTC one was great with the update, yet my Note 3 battery life took a dive. I used to get well over a day (24 hours and some minutes) with about 4-5 hours screen time with jelly bean. Now I get 14 or so with 3 hours screen time. I've factory reset, tried greenify (no root, sucks) disabled everything and still don't get much more.
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Lets be honest, most of the people here tend to upgrade to the newer phone when it comes out, depending on how much better it is of course, so we tend to have a phone for 2 years or less...
Most batteries will live that long with no problem and by the time you're ready to offload you "old" phone for an upgrade, batteries cost a few $on ebay so even if it requires a new battery it isn't too expensive...
A battery should easily last you for the amount of time you're going to be using it barring of course power surges, misuse or just a faulty battery....
Charge away and be happy. If it dies it's replaceable...
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That works for me so far, I have been charging this way since July 2013
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Impressive, considering this phone was announced 4 September 2013..
ShadowLea said:
Impressive, considering this phone was announced 4 September 2013..
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Oh Man, sorry for that...
I own a Note 3 and a S4, and I just wanted to share my experience with the battery charging habits of the S4, since in this category I'm quite sure it applies to the Note 3 also.
BTW, I've been doing the same (Battery charging) for the Note 3 also.
I do but usually at 500mah when I sleep.
I've had a note 1 and currently use the note 3. I NEVER get more than 12 hours out of my phone. in fact, I carry 2 batteries with my note 3, the note 1 was even worse, I had to carry at least 3 batteries with me to keep me going for the day, and when I say the day, i mean like 18 hours. I'll freely admit that I use my phone more like a netbook than a telephone. I very rarely actually talk on the phone, instead using my phone mostly as a tablet for use with facebook, feedly, web browsing, a couple games, taking notes (evernote ftw), twitter, foursquare, pandora and maps, the occasional email, taking photos. with the battery drain level of the note 3, I'd really have liked to see a battery with roughly twice the capacity to keep me happy for a day, possibly a day and a half with slightly more casual use.
that having been said, yes, i charge every night, because one battery is dead and the other is at 5% or so when it's time for bed. - thankfully I invested in a charge dock which charges the battery in my phone while it charges a spare.
Is fast charging on the S7 ok for the battery or it damages it by time ? I mean i want my phone to hold on for at least 3 years.
Should i disable this option to increase the total battery health ?
With or without fast charging...batterys dont last 3 years.
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olafsand said:
With or without fast charging...batterys dont last 3 years.
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Umm yes they do... They last way longer than that actually. They just won't have the capability to hold the full charge amount (in mAh) anymore.
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Umm yes they do... They last way longer than that actually. They just won't have the capability to hold the full charge amount (in mAh) anymore.
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It may not have dawned on you yet but that battery does not "hold the full charge amount (in mAh) anymore" is in most users mind the very definition of "my f****** battery is gone"!
With the all the pressure on the manufacturers to make the batteries small and the urge to build faster units the usable battery lifespan takes a hit. Even a 20% shorter battery charge time feels frustrating when heavy users may already struggle to make it last a full day with some phones.
So, "way longer than that" (3 years)…? I don’t think so!
So as a conclusion should I DISABLE FAST CHARGING OR NOT?
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So as a conclusion should I DISABLE FAST CHARGING OR NOT?
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I have never heard anyone being able to prove fast charging causing shortened battery life. There are a lot of guessing around, but the only difference I have seen is that the phone gets slightly warmer to the touch both after fast charging with cable and wireless. Not so hot so that I would suspect damage. After all, since the charging ends a lot faster the total amount of heat surely isn't higher than that with slow charging. Using the phone will sometimes make it warmer than this.
One could perhaps suspect a higher risk for fire with fast charging, but there is no proof for that either.
The choice is yours!
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So as a conclusion should I DISABLE FAST CHARGING OR NOT?
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If you want battery to last longer you do not need to disable anything, instead follow these steps
1. Charge battery to 80 - 85% and not 100%. Stop leaving it overnight.
2. Don't let it fall to 0%, keep it between 20 - 80% charge.
3. Do use phone while charging. You do not want battery heating up.
4. Top up the battery in between your day but keep it within the range above.
5. Keep phone away from to much subglight or warm temperatures. Heat is the biggest enemy of Li-on batteries.
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If you want battery to last longer you do not need to disable anything, instead follow these steps
1. Charge battery to 80 - 85% and not 100%. Stop leaving it overnight.
2. Don't let it fall to 0%, keep it between 20 - 80% charge.
3. Do use phone while charging. You do not want battery heating up.
4. Top up the battery in between your day but keep it within the range above.
5. Keep phone away from to much subglight or warm temperatures. Heat is the biggest enemy of Li-on batteries.
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This might have been true many years ago for on old generation of batteries and phones, not for the batteries and smart phones of today. You cannot damage the battery by over charge, there is automatic over charge protection.
You equally cannot do harm to the battery by using it all the way down. There is protection against this also. The system will sense when it is approaching the level that will do any damage at all to the battery and shut down.
No need to worry, just use your phone. There is nothing you can do to make the battery better or worse!
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This might have been true many years ago for on old generation of batteries and phones, not for the batteries and smart phones of today. You cannot damage the battery by over charge, there is automatic over charge protection.
You equally cannot do harm to the battery by using it all the way down. There is protection against this also. The system will sense when it is approaching the level that will do any damage at all to the battery and shut down.
No need to worry, just use your phone. There is nothing you can do to make the battery better or worse!
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So i can enable fast charge and full charge/discharge the phone without any risk?
gerhard_wa said:
This might have been true many years ago for on old generation of batteries and phones, not for the batteries and smart phones of today. You cannot damage the battery by over charge, there is automatic over charge protection.
You equally cannot do harm to the battery by using it all the way down. There is protection against this also. The system will sense when it is approaching the level that will do any damage at all to the battery and shut down.
No need to worry, just use your phone. There is nothing you can do to make the battery better or worse!
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No you are getting it wrong. Don't leave overnight not because it over charges but the fact that you don't want to go upto 100%. Plus everytime you go to 0 battery loses it one cycle. Whatever I say is based on Google research and latest research so it still holds true. For battery longevity never take it to extreme and avoid heating it.
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So i can enable fast charge and full charge/discharge the phone without any risk?
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You should Google or see YouTube videos. What I advise you is based on that research. Almost 99% people advise what I said. Rest is upto you.
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No you are getting it wrong. Don't leave overnight not because it over charges but the fact that you don't want to go upto 100%. Plus everytime you go to 0 battery loses it one cycle. Whatever I say is based on Google research and latest research so it still holds true. For battery longevity never take it to extreme and avoid heating it.
You should Google or see YouTube videos. What I advise you is based on that research. Almost 99% people advise what I said. Rest is upto you.
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So the most recommanded tips are: stay at 25-75% battery and try to not heat battery and disable fast charge?
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So the most recommanded tips are: stay at 25-75% battery and try to not heat battery and disable fast charge?
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Disable fast charging if it heats up your battery too much. Otherwise no need.
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gerhard_wa said:
It may not have dawned on you yet but that battery does not "hold the full charge amount (in mAh) anymore" is in most users mind the very definition of "my f****** battery is gone"!
With the all the pressure on the manufacturers to make the batteries small and the urge to build faster units the usable battery lifespan takes a hit. Even a 20% shorter battery charge time feels frustrating when heavy users may already struggle to make it last a full day with some phones.
So, "way longer than that" (3 years)…? I don’t think so!
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That is a generalization based upon nothing but your personal opinion. All I said is that batteries absolutely last longer than 3 years.
Try this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery&hl=pt_PT
It gives information about charge/discharge and also battery health based on your use.
Hey guys I replaced my 6p battery with an eBay unit that's clearly not an oem replacement. It does the job so far however whenever I'm outside in the cold this thing drops to zero in a matter of minutes. I'm thinking it's probably because it's a cheap Chinese knockoff. You guys know of any places where I can source an OEM replacement battery
Thank you
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I wasn't able to find one. Ordered several that said they were OEM but when they arrived they were some knockoffs. Huawei ended up replacing mine despite being out of warranty.
I haven;t been able to find a genuine battery either. Some randomly turn the phone off. Some have no temperature sensor so there's potential for overheating. One of them wouldn't charge past 93%. On the positive side, I am a pro at opening this phone up now. Kind of miss having 2 extra batteries that I could swap into my G3.
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Hey guys I replaced my 6p battery with an eBay unit that's clearly not an oem replacement. It does the job so far however whenever I'm outside in the cold this thing drops to zero in a matter of minutes. I'm thinking it's probably because it's a cheap Chinese knockoff. You guys know of any places where I can source an OEM replacement battery
Thank you
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Can you try this one before i buy one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252596079027
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Can you try this one before i buy one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252596079027
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Funny...I saw that one just earlier today. The thing I found interesting is that the sticker on that "OEM" battery looks a fair bit different than the sticker that can be seen when a 6P is disassembled...so that smells a bit fishy to me personally
Just bought this battery from amazon,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IOJSN3E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
ive been playing music and its been holding charge more than the battery that was in there.
i will let battery drain zero and then charge it up and see how it holds up. It came charged at 33 and after 30 minutes of use its at 30 % ..
im excited to see the results, the battery was $13 USD and got delivered in two days, came in a yellow bubbled envelope and the battery was in a little box that said nexus 6p
one thing i noticed was that the flex cable was running from the bottom of the battery as opposed to the OEM that ran on top of the battery, it sits well, but honestly i did see a gap in size. the OEM battery actually filled in the whole compartment and the after market one left some space. i attached it and now im using the phone outside in the cold (im in Riverside CA) and its raining outside, and it seems to be holding up..
opening the phone wasnt hard, got the needed tools from a local dollar store, phillips precision screw driver, a hobby blade kit and it was super simple to open.
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Just bought this battery from amazon,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IOJSN3E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
ive been playing music and its been holding charge more than the battery that was in there.
i will let battery drain zero and then charge it up and see how it holds up. It came charged at 33 and after 30 minutes of use its at 30 % ..
im excited to see the results, the battery was $13 USD and got delivered in two days, came in a yellow bubbled envelope and the battery was in a little box that said nexus 6p
one thing i noticed was that the flex cable was running from the bottom of the battery as opposed to the OEM that ran on top of the battery, it sits well, but honestly i did see a gap in size. the OEM battery actually filled in the whole compartment and the after market one left some space. i attached it and now im using the phone outside in the cold (im in Riverside CA) and its raining outside, and it seems to be holding up..
opening the phone wasnt hard, got the needed tools from a local dollar store, phillips precision screw driver, a hobby blade kit and it was super simple to open.
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Do you happen to have Accubattery Pro installed? I'm curious what the app would show for the 'Battery Health'?
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i42o said:
Just bought this battery from amazon,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IOJSN3E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
ive been playing music and its been holding charge more than the battery that was in there.
i will let battery drain zero and then charge it up and see how it holds up. It came charged at 33 and after 30 minutes of use its at 30 % ..
im excited to see the results, the battery was $13 USD and got delivered in two days, came in a yellow bubbled envelope and the battery was in a little box that said nexus 6p
one thing i noticed was that the flex cable was running from the bottom of the battery as opposed to the OEM that ran on top of the battery, it sits well, but honestly i did see a gap in size. the OEM battery actually filled in the whole compartment and the after market one left some space. i attached it and now im using the phone outside in the cold (im in Riverside CA) and its raining outside, and it seems to be holding up..
opening the phone wasnt hard, got the needed tools from a local dollar store, phillips precision screw driver, a hobby blade kit and it was super simple to open.
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Will be interested to hear your report back after some continued discharging and recharging and seeing how it holds up. My battery life is manageable still, but it certainly isn't great lol I just don't know how much I want to open this thing haha
So after draining the battery a couple of times I'm charging it it would seem that this battery is holding up very well definitely holding up better than the battery I had before. This is still happens from when I charged it from 0 to 95 it sticks at 95 and doesn't move from there up until I disconnect and reconnect the cable but after that it does charge up to 100..
On Accu battery the battery reports at 97% health but I'm sure that the difference is probably off due to calibration. One thing that does puzzle me is the capacity that the battery is reporting the capacity that I see even though the battery is a bit smaller than the original battery is reporting 5413 mAh . I'm guessing that after a few more runs it would fix the capacity amount because it doesn't seem right. Yesterday I didn't notice that the phone got very hot in the matter of minutes while laying down on the counter charging at first which kind of worried me because I have never had that issue with this phone before. The phone is working way better than it was before and I could have got it sent out to Huawei and got replaced but I wanted to fix the battery issue as I grew fond of this phone and would not trust a replacement phone to make up for this one. Opening up the phone's very simple I found it surprising that it was so simple as it just takes a hobby blade and a playing card a debit card to slide under the battery and patience I was done with the process in about 15 minutes at the phone running and the battery was charged at 32% I will report back periodically but I honestly do believe that this battery is of good quality and definitely does hold up 2 what was advertised
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So after draining the battery a couple .......
I will report back periodically but I honestly do believe that this battery is of good quality and definitely does hold up 2 what was advertised
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Can't wait for mine to arrive
i42o said:
So after draining the battery a couple of times I'm charging it it would seem that this battery is holding up very well definitely holding up better than the battery I had before. This is still happens from when I charged it from 0 to 95 it sticks at 95 and doesn't move from there up until I disconnect and reconnect the cable but after that it does charge up to 100..
On Accu battery the battery reports at 97% health but I'm sure that the difference is probably off due to calibration. One thing that does puzzle me is the capacity that the battery is reporting the capacity that I see even though the battery is a bit smaller than the original battery is reporting 5413 mAh . I'm guessing that after a few more runs it would fix the capacity amount because it doesn't seem right. Yesterday I didn't notice that the phone got very hot in the matter of minutes while laying down on the counter charging at first which kind of worried me because I have never had that issue with this phone before. The phone is working way better than it was before and I could have got it sent out to Huawei and got replaced but I wanted to fix the battery issue as I grew fond of this phone and would not trust a replacement phone to make up for this one. Opening up the phone's very simple I found it surprising that it was so simple as it just takes a hobby blade and a playing card a debit card to slide under the battery and patience I was done with the process in about 15 minutes at the phone running and the battery was charged at 32% I will report back periodically but I honestly do believe that this battery is of good quality and definitely does hold up 2 what was advertised
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Does the battery temperature change or is it a constant temp? Sounds like one of the batteries that I tried. It would stop charging around 95% too. But it had no, or non-functioning temperature sensor that read a constant 25 degrees. I deemed it unsafe and disposed of it.
Now that I think of it, you're right. Its at a steady 25 degrees on mine as well
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Now that I think of it, you're right. Its at a steady 25 degrees on mine as well
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They probably used a resistor in place of an actual temperature so the circuit would give a false reading instead of no reading at all. That's disturbing because fast charging uses the battery temp to adjust it's charging speed for safety and longevity of the battery. And it says a lot about the quality in general and what other protections were omitted. Having said that, I think the chances of actually having a problem are low. But even that was too high a risk for me.
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Does the battery temperature change or is it a constant temp? Sounds like one of the batteries that I tried. It would stop charging around 95% too. But it had no, or non-functioning temperature sensor that read a constant 25 degrees. I deemed it unsafe and disposed of it.
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They probably used a resistor in place of an actual temperature so the circuit would give a false reading instead of no reading at all. That's disturbing because fast charging uses the battery temp to adjust it's charging speed for safety and longevity of the battery. And it says a lot about the quality in general and what other protections were omitted. Having said that, I think the chances of actually having a problem are low. But even that was too high a risk for me.
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What do you think is the worst that can happen?
i42o said:
What do you think is the worst that can happen?
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If there is no, or circumvented protection circuitry to prevent overheating and shorts, which it appears there is. Then the worst that can happen is thermal runaway followed by venting flame at 1,000 degrees. Similar to the Note 7 or hoverboard videos you may have seen.
i42o said:
So after draining the battery a couple of times I'm charging it it would seem that this battery is holding up very well definitely holding up better than the battery I had before. This is still happens from when I charged it from 0 to 95 it sticks at 95 and doesn't move from there up until I disconnect and reconnect the cable but after that it does charge up to 100..
On Accu battery the battery reports at 97% health but I'm sure that the difference is probably off due to calibration. One thing that does puzzle me is the capacity that the battery is reporting the capacity that I see even though the battery is a bit smaller than the original battery is reporting 5413 mAh . I'm guessing that after a few more runs it would fix the capacity amount because it doesn't seem right. Yesterday I didn't notice that the phone got very hot in the matter of minutes while laying down on the counter charging at first which kind of worried me because I have never had that issue with this phone before. The phone is working way better than it was before and I could have got it sent out to Huawei and got replaced but I wanted to fix the battery issue as I grew fond of this phone and would not trust a replacement phone to make up for this one. Opening up the phone's very simple I found it surprising that it was so simple as it just takes a hobby blade and a playing card a debit card to slide under the battery and patience I was done with the process in about 15 minutes at the phone running and the battery was charged at 32% I will report back periodically but I honestly do believe that this battery is of good quality and definitely does hold up 2 what was advertised
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The stock battery is supposed to be 3450 mAh. That's interesting. There is a feature in Accubattery to manually select the proper mAh.
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SFG said:
The stock battery is supposed to be 3450 mAh. That's interesting. There is a feature in Accubattery to manually select the proper mAh.
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yeah to manually set what the capacity is supposed to be
the higher one i'm speaking of is after charging it. that's the capacity it calculated, but that's been changing every time after i charge up, i left the house today at 10:30 and took the phone off the charger then, right now at 2:34 pm Pacific Cali time i am at 73% on L-OS Rom,
i had noticed that CM based roms always drained faster than stock roms, so im running this rom to see the longevity of the battery life on this vs stock to finally come to a conclusion on battery quality after i run stock
i42o said:
yeah to manually set what the capacity is supposed to be
the higher one i'm speaking of is after charging it. that's the capacity it calculated, but that's been changing every time after i charge up, i left the house today at 10:30 and took the phone off the charger then, right now at 2:34 pm Pacific Cali time i am at 73% on L-OS Rom,
i had noticed that CM based roms always drained faster than stock roms, so im running this rom to see the longevity of the battery life on this vs stock to finally come to a conclusion on battery quality after i run stock
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Cool. Thanks for sharing your results. I am currently in RMA hell with google and my 6p. They keep sending me refurbed phones with original batteries. My OG which was manufactured in December 2015 had 95% battery life and the ones I have been receiving have been 72% and 84%. Currently waiting on the 3rd one. Hopefully a reliable OEM aftermarket option surfaces JIC.
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SFG said:
Cool. Thanks for sharing your results. I am currently in RMA hell with google and my 6p. They keep sending me refurbed phones with original batteries. My OG which was manufactured in December 2015 had 95% battery life and the ones I have been receiving have been 72% and 84%. Currently waiting on the 3rd one. Hopefully a reliable OEM aftermarket option surfaces JIC.
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General question about doing a RMA with Huawei...do you have to send your phone back first and wait several weeks to get it back or will they send you a phone first and you have a certain amount of days to send your old one back, or else you get charged the full value of the phone that was sent first?
thanks!
cms062407 said:
General question about doing a RMA with Huawei...do you have to send your phone back first and wait several weeks to get it back or will they send you a phone first and you have a certain amount of days to send your old one back, or else you get charged the full value of the phone that was sent first?
thanks!
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Did mine through Google. I had to do a preauth on my cc and then they mailed me a refurb. I send them back my phone in the same box using a prepaid postage label that they provide.
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Hi everyone
I'd like to have the charging limited to 90%. For that I need to know what the config file is where charging can be disabled.
I have tried /sys/class/qcom-battery/restrict_chg but it doesn't seem to be working.
Does anybody know whether I can make this work and how?
Don't bother, since this phone has a buggy pmic.
Aw crud...
/sys/class/power_supply/battery/input_suspend seems to be working in principle.
Why do you want to limit the charge to 90%? Do you think it will make your battery last longer? Because it's not, I have been discharging to around 15% 5-6 days a week (while at work) and then leaving the phone charging over night (7+ hours), and first time I felt my battery is getting weaker was after like year and a half maybe more, so just don't bother, Lithium batteries are much more durable to a point that limiting your charge and not charging to full and similar nonsense will likely make your battery last even less.
Wow... a whole year and a half...
Yeah, I think you and I have very different strategies in terms of mobile phones.
Yea, year and a half before I started to see signs of the battery weakening, I changed it after almost 3 year in my old Mi A2 Lite, before I bought Poco, I think three years is fine, don't you?
I have never owned a phone that went more than two years of adequate charge. The first was mi Mi Max 3 which I charged every other day and never more than 90%. Didn't notice any lost charge after more than 3 years.
Also once the app works, it doesn't cost me anything to do so why wouldn't I?
Try using acc and acc settings
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Try using acc and acc settings
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I have found the file that works. At least so far. Haven't noted any defective chip as someone else suggested... well aside from it not charging very quickly but I mean, I charge over night... I don't care if it doesn't quick charge... should help longevity as well.
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Wow... a whole year and a half...
Yeah, I think you and I have very different strategies in terms of mobile phones.
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My oldest phone, which is still in use, has been almost completely discharged and then fully charged since 2016 without there being a noticeable reduction in battery capacity.
thorin0815 said:
My oldest phone, which is still in use, has been almost completely discharged and then fully charged since 2016 without there being a noticeable reduction in battery capacity.
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That's so very good for you. See, I've been cancer free for over 40 years now... want me to go tell that to someone dying of cancer to make them feel inferior?
Marco2G said:
That's so very good for you. See, I've been cancer free for over 40 years now... want me to go tell that to someone dying of cancer to make them feel inferior?
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The comparison is very poor, because in the worst case you buy a new battery for €15.