So I have been using this note taking app for the last few weeks and I thought I would share it with you guys. This is by far the best one for me because it differentiates between s-pen and touch inputs and also has continuous scrollable pages.
I use the pen to write and the touch input to scroll down. It automatically opens a new page under the one you were writing on when you reach the bottom of the page. So, it really is a proper notebook replacement for me in class.
Here are the settings I use it with,
settings>input> Use stylus(hardware detection) enabled.
settings>input> Allow one finger scrolling enabled.
settings>input> Allow two fingers zooming enabled.
settings>tools> Auto-forward page enabled .
settings>tools> Auto-forward page setup - bottom boundary selected.
Here's the play store link for the trial version, let me know what you guys think. This one really was worth buying for me.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acadoid.lecturenotestrial&hl=en
The trial version is limited in the number of notebooks (2) and the number of pages per notebook (8).
Edit - for CM9, landscape offset can be set in settings>input>Shift input setup
I love this app. Had it on a flyer before it died and it is fabulous on the note.
The dev is one of the most responsive people I have seem in software development. Would recommend everyone to try it, fast, accurate and feature rich.
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Doesn't work with Alliance ROM... Cannot understand why with custom roms (like Alliance or Criskelo) the S Pen is not recognized by these programs (same that happens with Jotter, that doesn't work).
yeah I think I saw your post in the alliance rom thread.. very odd. Only the dev will be able to shed light on why it does not detect the s pen on the rom. What happens exactly though, the program doesn't start up?
btw it works fine for me on rocketrom v4
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yeah I think I saw your post in the alliance rom thread.. very odd. Only the dev will be able to shed light on why it does not detect the s pen on the rom. What happens exactly though, the program doesn't start up?
btw it works fine for me on rocketrom v4
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Jotter doesnt start, Lecture starts instead but when I select "Use stylus" and try to write, it simply doesnt write.
By the way, if it works with Rocket, maybe I could change Rom.
How is the battery with Rocketrom?
Depends on the kernel you use I guess.. I'm very happy with rocketrom and the speedmod kernel. Rocketrom 4.1 comes with a cf root kernel by default but speedmod gives the best balance of smoothness and battery life for me. Definitely worth a shot.
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seconded!
Been using this app for 2 months, it's now an everyday companion for note taking!
Dev is responsive and is more than willing to take your requests and suggestions. Great app and great dev!
does it work the sime way with aosp roms
thank you dude this is a really great app for note taking and you can rest your hand on the screen while you are writing without any promlems
i have been stuck with tw roms because of the s memo and i didnt find any great replacement for it yet
does it work in aosp and miui roms the same way it does with TW roms ?
if so , it would be fantastic
i would be able to flash any roms without sacrificing the functionality of the s pen
Comaparison between Jotter and LecturNotes
How Jotter and LectureNotes are comapred in terms of features and usability. I'm ritht now using Jotter and quite satisfied.
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thank you dude this is a really great app for note taking and you can rest your hand on the screen while you are writing without any promlems
i have been stuck with tw roms because of the s memo and i didnt find any great replacement for it yet
does it work in aosp and miui roms the same way it does with TW roms ?
if so , it would be fantastic
i would be able to flash any roms without sacrificing the functionality of the s pen
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So, curiousity made me go on a flashing spree to test the app on aosp/aokp roms. I tested it on asylum, liquidsmooth and paranoid android and the result was the same (expected, but hope made me try all three).
What happens is, it detects the s pen fine and can also differentiate between a touch input and the pen input, which means you can still scroll with touch and write only with the pen.
The bad part is, it screws up when you try to write with your palm on the screen.. When a touch input is sensed you cannot write (writing is intermittent and buggy) whereas on a TW based rom only the pen input is sensed when there is a pen input and a touch input (your palm) together..
So, whereas you can write easily with your palm resting on the screen on a TW rom you cannot do so on a aosp/aokp rom.
All other features work without issues.
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How Jotter and LectureNotes are comapred in terms of features and usability. I'm ritht now using Jotter and quite satisfied.
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I have not used jotter myself so maybe someone else can compare them better, but, does jotter have continuous scrollable pages or do you have to keep adding a new page and navigate to it like snote?
LectureNotes Automatically adds a page under the one you were writing on when you reach the bottom letting you continuously scroll down and keep writing.
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nice app! i love this
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I have not used jotter myself so maybe someone else can compare them better, but, does jotter have continuous scrollable pages or do you have to keep adding a new page and navigate to it like snote?
LectureNotes Automatically adds a page under the one you were writing on when you reach the bottom letting you continuously scroll down and keep writing.
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Jotter is not having continuously scrollable pages. You have to continue add pages like S Note.
Regards,
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So, curiousity made me go on a flashing spree to test the app on aosp/aokp roms. I tested it on asylum, liquidsmooth and paranoid android and the result was the same (expected, but hope made me try all three).
What happens is, it detects the s pen fine and can also differentiate between a touch input and the pen input, which means you can still scroll with touch and write only with the pen.
The bad part is, it screws up when you try to write with your palm on the screen.. When a touch input is sensed you cannot write (writing is intermittent and buggy) whereas on a TW based rom only the pen input is sensed when there is a pen input and a touch input (your palm) together..
So, whereas you can write easily with your palm resting on the screen on a TW rom you cannot do so on a aosp/aokp rom.
All other features work without issues.
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thank god my memory is ok !
i remember that i tried this app while i was on asylum ICS and as you said it was unusable when you rest your hand on the screen
so i guess im stuck with samsung based roms
it seems like a good alternative for the stock Snote. I was using Snote during my courses for taking some notes, but i will give a chance to this alternative one, hope to be more practical then Snote
So I thought I would let you guys know that this app is now fully usable with aosp/cm9 based builds. CM9 has fixed the issue of the touch input interfering with the spens and you can easily rest your hand on the screen and write (the same should go for all other apps which sense hardware stylus input).
Lecturenotes also provides the functionality of setting a touch offset to fix the spen offset problem in landscape mode for cm9.
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I don't lnow why but google play tells me that this app is not compatible with my device. I'm using a non rooted Note.
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thank god my memory is ok !
i remember that i tried this app while i was on asylum ICS and as you said it was unusable when you rest your hand on the screen
so i guess im stuck with samsung based roms
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CM9 now has palm rejection working. I am on PA and it works well. That should not be an issue now.
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I am trying to determine the best keyboard for landscape (2 thumb) fast typing on the Galaxy Note. I have tried Smart Keyboard Pro and Swiftkey phone version in addition to the stock keyboard and find Swiftkey better than the others. Is there a better keyboard out there which will make typing more accurate on this large screen?
For me the best is also SwiftKey.
It's predictions after a short learning time is awesome.
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Try thumb keyboard. It had some great reviews for the dell streak a time ago http://www.streaksmart.com/2011/01/thumb-keyboard-updated-with-new-5-layout-for-dell-streak.html This is a old review. It has way more features now, but the layout is the same.
I will update it this week. The rendering of the secondary characters is not good right now on the Note.
If there are particular requests, let me know.
Thumb Keyboard.... nothing else comes close in my opinion. It just works as you want it to, and you can set up a lot of useful things on it, without it being over the top. It's a rare example of something being "spot on". It transformed touchscreen typing on my HD2 with long fingers, as I've always been a fan of physical keyboards on a device.
Don't want to brag it up too much, as the writer is on this forum, with a Galaxy Note, which he claims he will update to do a "Note" version (ie taking into consideration the screen size)
Over to you Appelflap!
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Thumb Keyboard.... nothing else comes close in my opinion. It just works as you want it to, and you can set up a lot of useful things on it, without it being over the top. It's a rare example of something being "spot on". It transformed touchscreen typing on my HD2 with long fingers, as I've always been a fan of physical keyboards on a device.
Don't want to brag it up too much, as the writer is on this forum, with a Galaxy Note, which he claims he will update to do a "Note" version (ie taking into consideration the screen size)
Over to you Appelflap!
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Thanks. Much appreciated
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Try thumb keyboard. It had some great reviews for the dell streak a time ago http://www.streaksmart.com/2011/01/thumb-keyboard-updated-with-new-5-layout-for-dell-streak.html This is a old review. It has way more features now, but the layout is the same.
I will update it this week. The rendering of the secondary characters is not good right now on the Note.
If there are particular requests, let me know.
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LOL - Spooky!!!!!!
I had an idea tonight in work.....
People have said you need two hands to use this device and to type on... so I was thinking - for a right handed person for example, couldn't you pad out the left hand side of the keyboard, so it would all get shifted over to the right, so a right handed person could hold the phone in their hand, and still type using the thumb? Obviously the keyboard would now only be HD2 sized for example, but shifted over to the right hand side of the device, with a gap on the left.
Just a thought.
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I am trying to determine the best keyboard for landscape (2 thumb) fast typing on the Galaxy Note.
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Wow.
Great pedigree, except for a few visits to the dark side.
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Wow.
Great pedigree, except for a few visits to the dark side.
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He's safe.... (By Darkside I thought you meant eye-fone for a minute)
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LOL - Spooky!!!!!!
I had an idea tonight in work.....
People have said you need two hands to use this device and to type on... so I was thinking - for a right handed person for example, couldn't you pad out the left hand side of the keyboard, so it would all get shifted over to the right, so a right handed person could hold the phone in their hand, and still type using the thumb? Obviously the keyboard would now only be HD2 sized for example, but shifted over to the right hand side of the device, with a gap on the left.
Just a thought.
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Great idea. I've already such a thing implemented for 10" tablets, but I think the concept will work on the Note to.
appelflap said:
Try thumb keyboard. It had some great reviews for the dell streak a time ago http://www.streaksmart.com/2011/01/thumb-keyboard-updated-with-new-5-layout-for-dell-streak.html This is a old review. It has way more features now, but the layout is the same.
I will update it this week. The rendering of the secondary characters is not good right now on the Note.
If there are particular requests, let me know.
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I had a look at this keyboard a little earlier. My first reaction was that it may not suit my style of typing due to the gap in the middle of the keyboard (may be because my style is a bit odd). What I find myself doing is that I would type characters in the middle like 'T' and 'Y' using either the left or the right thumb depending on the word. For example to type 'THAT' I would do this
T - left thumb
H - right thumb
A - left thumb
T - right thumb
So you can see I typed 'T' first using the left thumb and then using the right thumb. This gives me the fastest typing speed as when my left thumb is pressing the character 'A' my right thumb is moving towards 'T' (at least that's what I believe anyway)
As another example, I find that if I typed 'T' with my left thumb and the next character is adjacent to it e.g. 'Y', I would also use my left thumb for 'Y' as it happens to be right next to the character I just typed.
As so many people think of this keyboard highly, I will give this keyboard a go and hopefully my daemons will go away with use.
appelflap said:
Try thumb keyboard. It had some great reviews for the dell streak a time ago http://www.streaksmart.com/2011/01/thumb-keyboard-updated-with-new-5-layout-for-dell-streak.html This is a old review. It has way more features now, but the layout is the same.
I will update it this week. The rendering of the secondary characters is not good right now on the Note.
If there are particular requests, let me know.
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+1 for Thumb KB. I have it all all my devices: phones & tablets.
Beta (update for the Note)
Here's a new version that I will release later this week on the market. For now it contains a update for the Note screen resolution. I thought it was worthwhile to post it here for those people who are running a previous version (which doesn't run well on the Note)
The keyboard contains also (the original) Ice Cream Sandwich theme. It expires Nov. 10.
Swiftkey for tablets in landscape the best I've tried so far, does obscure the text entry field in some apps though...
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Here's a new version that I will release later this week on the market. For now it contains a update for the Note screen resolution. I thought it was worthwhile to post it here for those people who are running a previous version (which doesn't run well on the Note)
The keyboard contains also (the original) Ice Cream Sandwich theme. It expires Nov. 10.
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Many thanks. I will give this a go now.
I don't know if any keyboards do this, but what I would love a keyboard layout with:
numeric keypad on one side (preferably switchable for left handers/right handers), and the normal keyboard on the other.
That way it is much less annoying when you have to type a mix of numbers/letters (wap passwords, etc).
The great thing about android of course, is you can just switch keyboards to fit one that suits your current need.
- Frank
@ChodTheWacko
Me too
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Thanks for the beta mate using it now
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@ChodTheWacko
Me too
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I just found out that 'thumb keyboard' does this. Awesome.
Frank
Hacker's Keyboard
For power users, this is your best keybord: Hacker's Keyboard!
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Here's a new version that I will release later this week on the market. For now it contains a update for the Note screen resolution. I thought it was worthwhile to post it here for those people who are running a previous version (which doesn't run well on the Note)
The keyboard contains also (the original) Ice Cream Sandwich theme. It expires Nov. 10.
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Hi appelflap,
First off awesome keyboard, have been using it on all my devices for a while.
I'm not sure if this is a bug or not but with the new beta I am using Phone: Standard Layout for portrait and Phone/Tablet: 5" Layout for landscape, in portrait mode while using the browser or Google Talk if I long press the period key at the lower right of the keyboard the default secondary symbol is a comma, in landscape it is a plus, any way to change the default to the comma for landscape as well.
Thanks,
Rob
I recently got a new Galaxy S2 and though I have no complaints about its speed, the on screen keyboard is atrocious. I'm running the AOKP ICS ROM right now and using what I assume is the stock ICS keyboard.
Coming from an OG Droid, my main complaint is that the on screen keyboard doesn't always follow the text while typing, I find myself often typing off screen and I can't pinch and zoom out with the keyboard open, it's very frustrating. Also, the selection marker seems to jump around making it very difficult to get to a word I made a typo in due to it being off screen when I typed it. I find it easier sometimes to just backspace my entire sentence than to fight with it. After a google search, this doesn't seem like an uncommon complaint.
Also I'm not a big fan of having to hit the "back" key to pull down the keyboard when there's no done button, as hitting it twice has a chance of eating whatever I'm typing.
What do you guys suggest?
Other than that, I don't much like the cramped viewspace I have when typing, but I suppose nothing can be done about that. It'd be nice to have a higher ppi display, with pinch and zoom with the keyboard open.
On another forum some suggested downloading a paid keyboard that allows the addition of arrow keys, but I'm reluctant to make the keyboard take up even more space onscreen.
P.S. I'm trying to get my post count up so I can post some bugs in the development section. Thanks all!
SwiftKey X is the best keyboard I've ever downloaded. It has a stinking awesome auto correct and several themes to choose from to match your phone interface. It's even got some neat gesture shortcuts and you can adjust the size of the keyboard on the screen from small, to medium, to large (which sounds like something you'd like) in both portrait and landscape mode. It has a 30 day free trial and after that the auto correct stops working, but the app is only 50 cents. I'd super highly recommend it, that's what I'm using with my galaxy s2. That and a crap ton of swype Good luck, hope I helped
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SwiftKey X is the best keyboard I've ever downloaded. It has a stinking awesome auto correct and several themes to choose from to match your phone interface. It's even got some neat gesture shortcuts and you can adjust the size of the keyboard on the screen from small, to medium, to large (which sounds like something you'd like) in both portrait and landscape mode. It has a 30 day free trial and after that the auto correct stops working, but the app is only 50 cents. I'd super highly recommend it, that's what I'm using with my galaxy s2. That and a crap ton of swype Good luck, hope I helped
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I agree with him. I love SwiftKey x. I am currently using the beta 3 version and it is awesome. Truly worth the money spent on it.
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I agree with him. I love SwiftKey x. I am currently using the beta 3 version and it is awesome. Truly worth the money spent on it.
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I tried the paid version of Swiftkey x, n the only thing dat i hate abt it is that in landscape view.. because of the transparent pad.. you dont see what ur writing until you reach the second line..gone through the settings infinite times.. i too am in need of a good keyboard..
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Hello guys.
In ICS,there is something I miss on GB - floating pen icon,that shows up when I am close to screen with S-Pen. Is there a way to get this on GB? I really don't want to upgrade to ICS,because there are major things,I don't want.
Some skilled programmer could do that IMHO.
Thanks.
I add my question: is it possible to replace the white dot with a black arrow, on Rocket Rom (ICS) ? CM9-based roms got it.
On gb: its not only the hover icon of the spen absent, u r missing the whole spen comfort, when i got my note (gb) my pen only responded if i click the button, but on ics its amazing. i think u missng a lot, if u use s pen ?
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I am missing a lot? What exactly? I miss only this thingie,because the pen isn't accurate as my needs. ICS doesn't solve the accuracy,only displays thic point. Nothing else more.
I've been trying to sift through everything that's out there about different roms, but am still unclear on a number of items.
So, I have a choice between touchwiz android 4.1 based roms, or open source roms. Moving away from Touchwiz what is it exactly I would be losing?
Does S-note disappear? S-memo? Is there any app that would replace the s-memo function to double tap the screen and bring up a floating note?
How much of multi window is lost? How much can be replaced? Is cascade view still something that can be added back in?
What s-pen functions are lost? What can be replaced (or improved)?
Overall, if I were to leave Touchwiz entirely, what is lost and what can be replaced with non Samsung counterparts?
Currently, I have Android Revolution HD with Holo Launcher HD on top of that. Any better suggestions? I went with Android Revolution because I was tired of reading and had to start somewhere, so I'm definitely also interested in opinions on a better setup.
Thanks.
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I've been trying to sift through everything that's out there about different roms, but am still unclear on a number of items.
So, I have a choice between touchwiz android 4.1 based roms, or open source roms. Moving away from Touchwiz what is it exactly I would be losing?
Does S-note disappear? S-memo? Is there any app that would replace the s-memo function to double tap the screen and bring up a floating note?
How much of multi window is lost? How much can be replaced? Is cascade view still something that can be added back in?
What s-pen functions are lost? What can be replaced (or improved)?
Overall, if I were to leave Touchwiz entirely, what is lost and what can be replaced with non Samsung counterparts?
Currently, I have Android Revolution HD with Holo Launcher HD on top of that. Any better suggestions? I went with Android Revolution because I was tired of reading and had to start somewhere, so I'm definitely also interested in opinions on a better setup.
Thanks.
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Are you just curious about other ROM's or is there something that you need that touch wiz does not offer?
Because as far as I know you will lose S Pen function going to a non-touch wiz ROM and that defeats the reason for owning the Note 10.1.
If you want to see what some of the other ROM's offer Zedomax has a very good web page http://rootgalaxynote.com/. Lots of content for all version of the galaxy note.
He has video reviews of a lot of popular ROM's and you can sign up for his news letters if you like what he has to say, one that I like is "ROM of the week"
If you want to jump right to his Galaxy Note 10.1 ROM's page go here http://rootgalaxynote.com/category/galaxy-note-10-1-roms/
And here is a link to his you tube video page where he has video's on just about everything http://www.youtube.com/user/zedomax Max seems like a very cool guy that love's life and ANDROID
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Are you just curious about other ROM's or is there something that you need that touch wiz does not offer?
Because as far as I know you will lose S Pen function going to a non-touch wiz ROM and that defeats the reason for owning the Note 10.1.
If you want to see what some of the other ROM's offer Zedomax has a very good web page http://rootgalaxynote.com/. Lots of content for all version of the galaxy note.
He has video reviews of a lot of popular ROM's and you can sign up for his news letters if you like what he has to say, one that I like is "ROM of the week"
If you want to jump right to his Galaxy Note 10.1 ROM's page go here http://rootgalaxynote.com/category/galaxy-note-10-1-roms/
And here is a link to his you tube video page where he has video's on just about everything http://www.youtube.com/user/zedomax Max seems like a very cool guy that love's life and ANDROID
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Thanks, but I've been over all that. I just still feel uncertain about aspects. I see alot of things that are essentially alluded to, but rarely clearly laid out. For instance, in your response, you say "as far as I know you will lose the s-pen function..." Whereas as I was starting to be under the impression that while you would lose many items such as snote, you would still have the spen, and be able to use apps like GMD S PenControl.
I'm not saying what I just wrote is true, but that it is still a point of some confusion, among other things.
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Thanks, but I've been over all that. I just still feel uncertain about aspects. I see alot of things that are essentially alluded to, but rarely clearly laid out. For instance, in your response, you say "as far as I know you will lose the s-pen function..." Whereas as I was starting to be under the impression that while you would lose many items such as snote, you would still have the spen, and be able to use apps like GMD S PenControl.
I'm not saying what I just wrote is true, but that it is still a point of some confusion, among other things.
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That's why I posted the links to rootgalaxynote.com because Max goes over the functions that are gained and lost.
Take the time to download and watch them,..... its very helpful.
Revolt Rom video would be a good place to start http://androidrooted.com/file/GalaxyNote10.1/roms/RevoltJB/RevoltJBROMNote10.1.mp4
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That's why I posted the links to rootgalaxynote.com because Max goes over the functions that are gained and lost.
Take the time to download and watch them,..... its very helpful.
Revolt Rom video would be a good place to start http://androidrooted.com/file/GalaxyNote10.1/roms/RevoltJB/RevoltJBROMNote10.1.mp4
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I watched a bunch of them. On all the AOSP roms I watched him review he just doesn't even mention the s-pen, and in the comments section will just be a few people asking what the deal for the spen is and not having any reply to it.
I agree for the most part, those videos were very helpful. I used one of his videos to root my note. And I'm sure it exists somewhere, but in the time I spent mucking through everything there is, I haven't found where it is clearly laid out what you lose, and what can be done to regain those functions when going to AOSP. I just see bits and pieces buried here and there. I suppose that's what happens when I come this late to it all, the backlog of info is immense, and things covered early on get buried.
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I watched a bunch of them. On all the AOSP roms I watched him review he just doesn't even mention the s-pen, and in the comments section will just be a few people asking what the deal for the spen is and not having any reply to it.
I agree for the most part, those videos were very helpful. I used one of his videos to root my note. And I'm sure it exists somewhere, but in the time I spent mucking through everything there is, I haven't found where it is clearly laid out what you lose, and what can be done to regain those functions when going to AOSP. I just see bits and pieces buried here and there. I suppose that's what happens when I come this late to it all, the backlog of info is immense, and things covered early on get buried.
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That video does talk about s pen function @ about the 2:00 mark.
GMD spen controller ........ you could contact the developer ... here is the video link on you tube for the app in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=e3WGO-OZQ2k
Do you know about the 15 minute return policy on the play store?????????
If you are not happy with the app you can get a refund if you un-install it before 15 minutes have passed. https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/134336?hl=en
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That video does talk about s pen function @ about the 2:00 mark.
GMD spen controller ........ you could contact the developer ... here is the video link on you tube for the app in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=e3WGO-OZQ2k
Do you know about the 15 minute return policy on the play store?????????
If you are not happy with the app you can get a refund if you un-install it before 15 minutes have passed. https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/134336?hl=en
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I don't mean any of this in a harsh tone, but instead to hopefully get what I'm looking for:
If you would like to answer my questions, great. If you want to keep pointing at things when I tell you I've already seen them, please stop.
The purpose of this question was to determine what would be worth investing time and effort in and to gain some insight from people who have done it themselves already.
Again, if you would like to answer the original questions, I would appreciate that. These have not been what I'm looking for in terms of being a brief concise, summary, and overview
I get that you lose things from going to an AOSP, and that you can replace certain items with apps. My question is about what exactly do you lose, what are the apps that replace it, and how good of a job do they do.
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I don't mean any of this in a harsh tone
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Of coarse you do.
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Why don't you just stick with a rooted stock ROM?
I'd like to be able to keep up with new development regardless of what Samsung does. All the touchwiz roms seem to be limited to 4.1 (unless I've misunderstood). So sticking with touchwiz based roms will could be an issue depending on what Samsung does with updates.
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From what I understand you will loose any apps that require the TC framework - S-Notes don't work and some other apps...
However there are alternative apps like lecture notes that are, apparently supported using the s-pen.... If you read through the CM10 rom threads you might get a better idea, or ask there if it works, you might get a definite answer...
I believe I've read that the s-pen works but I like having my status as "Official" so I can use my Allcast hub... You loose that ability if the status changes....
The only difference between ASOP based and stock/stock based is the TW framework. But most of the features are replaceable.
This is what I have done to make my life easy with ASOP roms
What i miss
A- No replacement yet
- Mutiwindow - No replacement yet
- Lasso screenshot.
- Miss the samsung keyboard - This is the best keyboard for handwriting recognition. No issues with my horrible handwriting. Wish somebody ported it.
B- Alternatives
-Get most of the spen gestures ( except for lasso screen shot) using GMD spen
- S note replacement - use lecture notes and triggered via gmd spen gesture
Rest of the stuff is all there in asop based roms for my use.
Big positives
- Parnoid features.
- Love the status bar at the top option.
-Navigation bar sized down.
-Plenty of small tweaks
-Another big positive is the availability of USB mass storage mode. Very very helpful
Will update this post as more things come to my mind
What about battery life between stock and AOSP roms?
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What about battery life between stock and AOSP roms?
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Not seen any.
I get almost 9-10hrs screen time with both.
These two kernels decrease the sensitivity of the touchscreen to small movements. This solves the problem of the overly sensitive right hand side of the screen on the HD+. It is made by applying my gerrit patch: http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/54476/ "Add touch fuzz to improve ovation sensitivity." Fuzz is actually the official Android/Google term for this. I submitted this on November 23rd but nobody has reviewed it. (Am I the only home brewer?) There are no other modifications to the kernel, except enabling fstrim by reverting the disable fstrim patch for the fstrim enabled kernel.
I hope that this helps those of you who also find page turning and item clicking difficult. Small motions (less than 3 xaxis and 5 yaxis pixels) are not interpreted as a moving touch but as a stationary one. Touches should register as touches rather than drags.
Apply these using your favorite recovery. I take no responsibility for any damage to your NookHD+ or family pets. These should be applicable to any recent cm-10.2 build (since November 15th). If the build is not current then there may be wifi or other problems.
If folks like this change, I will whine to the powers that be to get it merged. I think that verygreen has been very busy with work lately.
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I have made more kernels with different fuzz values for x and y. For you information, x is the short screen dimension and y is the long screen dimension (B&N decided this for us). Larger numbers are less sensitive to touch motion. They make screen taps more stable but can make drawing jagged. Values range from 3 to 8. When a "best" set of values is determined, that is what I will submit as a patch to cyanogenmod.
Following are the md5 sums, file names and links, sorry about the formatting. This doesn't seem to like tabs.
Thanks for testing the different values. I hope this helps others with the twitchy touchscreens on the HD+.
These have been deleted because they don't work with current builds. The 3x5 fuzz patch is included in all builds now. Thanks for testing. Sorry to those who prefered other sizes.
Definitely going to try the Trim kernel, will report back. Thank you for the kernel!
Any oc options at all? Any and in the future if not?
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Would try, but download not working?
Edit. Something about Dolphin browser. Worked fine on Chrome. Trim works too.
Thank you.
Worked for me, flashed fine (I believe) what is the kernel name under settings > about tablet so I can verify it did flash?
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Downloads work for me. They open up a box.com window ready for downloading. 16 people have downloaded so far. I make them open to anyone.
I have tried to add overclocking but TI really locked things down to 1.5. I't sure it can be done but it isn't as easy as on ealrlier omap processors. I'd rather get 16 bit color working for the increased speed. That huge screen takes a lot of data at 24 bits. Now, I am trying to get last_kmsg working and then debugging cm11.0.
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Downloads work for me. They open up a box.com window ready for downloading. 16 people have downloaded so far. I make them open to anyone.
I have tried to add overclocking but TI really locked things down to 1.5. I't sure it can be done but it isn't as easy as on ealrlier omap processors. I'd rather get 16 bit color working for the increased speed. That huge screen takes a lot of data at 24 bits. Now, I am trying to get last_kmsg working and then debugging cm11.0.
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Well I'm eagerly awaiting what you produce. Been pining for a kernel for this since I got it! Thank you for your work this far. No major flub ups so far and it does seem to help the hold jitter, not a whole lot though but it is noticeable.
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I can make the touch hold even less jittery if it is wanted. I tested fuzz values from 2 to 25 and found these values of 3 and 5 worked best. The jittering was low enough that I can turn pages while reading, it sometimes takes a couple taps but is much better. If I make the values larger I can see the blockiness in a drawing program but that is only important to my granddaughter. I opted for the drawing program level. I can set it higher (like 4 and 8). Maybe I'll build up a family of different values and we can figure out the best.
Anyway, thanks for testing. I'm glad it works.
I did open up a drawing.app to test that as well and it did seem a touch more crazy, but I was using a Jot pro so I thought it was just that.
I would test multiple releases to see which one felt best, but I don't know how much work that is to recompile several kernels so I won't ask.
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I added 8 kernels with md5 checksums to the OP. They have different fuzz values so we can figure out what works best for most people. I liked 3x5 with fstrim (live dangerously). Others might prefer the higher, more stable values. When a consensus is reached I will try to get those values pushed to the nightlies.
I like 8x8 the most. Thank you so much for this fix.
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This is what I've been looking for! Nook is perfectly responsive now. (finally!) I'm using the 3x5, FYI. Thank you.
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3x5 seems to work for me
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Testing the 8x8 TRIM right now. While using Google Book reader, highlighting words has been 100% accurate but it feels weird to use. Tapping and pulling to turn the page or scroll up and down there is a very significant delay, like a stickiness, before it jumps to your fingers position, after that initial lag it's smooth. This happens every time you lift and touch back down on the screen and it's just the natural of the best with the 8x8 I'm assuming. But what's odd, is using a drawing program I didn't experience that massive delay and it, for the most part, felt about the same aside from maybe a delay in registering when I was doing, but I never experience the same "sticky" nature.
Right now, I like that tap&hold is dead on. I'll keep playing and then try the 4x5 which I'm thinking might be the perfect one for me.
Some info. Using latest CarbonRom 10.2 which is JB 4.3
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Any chance we can get a hummingbird version of this? Thanks!
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3x5 works really well for me, it's the only one I tried though. I have been having a lot of problems with touch and I was told to just wipe my screen before, but this actually fixed it. Before when holding an app icon it would shake like crazy and I had a hard time uninstalling or moving apps. I hope this gets merged.
Just wondering if we can make the fuzziness a build prop or local prop ?
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3x5 works really well for me, it's the only one I tried though. I have been having a lot of problems with touch and I was told to just wipe my screen before, but this actually fixed it. Before when holding an app icon it would shake like crazy and I had a hard time uninstalling or moving apps. I hope this gets merged.
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This is working great for me too. I am running 20131211 with this kernel/trim. I was having quite a few problems with Feedly. It's still not perfect, but is much, much better now.
Thanks!
Cheers,
Rich
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I don't have a hummingbird so I haven't looked at changing the touch sensitivity. I didn't think that the HD had twitchy touch. Figuring out which file needs to be changed is difficult and I haven't looked at it for the hummingbird.
I'm afraid that this can't be made a build.prop feature. It needs to be compiled into the kernel. Maybe a much better kernel programmer than I could figure out a way to do it.
I'm glad it is working for folks out there. I'm hoping for the best comromise between twitchy and jerky movement. I want to be able to hold an icon and move it, turn a page, and select text. If the fuzz is too big, I can't select text. If it is too small, I can't hold an icon or set wallpaper. Thanks for testing.
And by the way, it seems like Verygreen's emmc trim fix works. I haven't seen any reports of bricks using the new trimfix enabled kernels.
Totally cool job man! If it works out fine some day we all want to see a version for hummingbird.
Being able to update these values from a menu would be pretty awesome. Do we know if any of the custom roms support variable touchscreen adjustments like this?
Thanks,
Dave\Esotic