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Task Killing

Anyone having issues with Apps getting killed despite the fact that they don't have a task killer installed? I will open Apps and leave them running, go back to the home screen, and when I open my task manager minutes later, they are gone. I know that the system does its own kind of memory management but is it suppose to be doing this? The reason it is frustrating me is because often when I back out of an app or unlock the phone, my launcher pro acts like it has been reset, and I have to sit there while all of my widgets reload. Maybe it has always done this and I am just now realizing it. Just curious if anyone else has experinced this.
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In launcher pro go in setting and check "keep in memory”
JayRHamlin said:
Anyone having issues with Apps getting killed despite the fact that they don't have a task killer installed? I will open Apps and leave them running, go back to the home screen, and when I open my task manager minutes later, they are gone. I know that the system does its own kind of memory management but is it suppose to be doing this? The reason it is frustrating me is because often when I back out of an app or unlock the phone, my launcher pro acts like it has been reset, and I have to sit there while all of my widgets reload. Maybe it has always done this and I am just now realizing it. Just curious if anyone else has experinced this.
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this happens to me too, since upgrading to froyo the memory management has been the only bad thing.
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I think as soon as we have source some good kernels will be coming our way. I always had that problem with the vibrant until I used modded kernels with increases in ram.
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I don't understand why. .when u open up certain apps.....like 10 unrelated apps all start up in the bg. If I wanted them to start I will open them...I mean seriously this is the only os that does this
Osmonitor is a good app to see whats running
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Yeah I know. I use auto memory optimizer. Keeps more free ram. I set it to optimum.
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Any way to free up RAM in CM7?

Hey guys, the longer I leave the phone on the less RAM I have.. I am down to a measly 62MB of ram at the end of the day.. I thought that android 2.2+ didn't need task killers? Anyone have any apps or ideas to help with that?
Edit: Please move this thread, I posted it in the completely wrong section I didn't have my glasses on, sorry.

Don't use any task killers but if you need a memory helper def go with "autokiller" from market. Its free and will def free up some ram for ya.
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Does your phone slow down? If it's not slowing down, don't worry about it. Apps stay asleep in ram and don't run, this just means they don't have to be reloaded and are saved in the position they are in when you left them... this is the pseudo multi-tasking. If it's not slow, don't mess with it. Mine runs down that low fairly often with no loss of speed. But you can adjust the minimum settings in autokiller as suggested above if it bothers you that much

you can always enable some swap space.
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Ron Overdrive said:
you can always enable some swap space.
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Are you talking about compcache?
And my phone seems to progressively get laggier throughout the day but a reboot every morning seems to be sufficient.

Using autokiller with the optimum preset keeps me with 120 mb free and things still run fast and smooth. . .
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I use advanced task killer and it works fine. Under settings I have auto kill set to safe and to do it when screen turns off
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Comp cache will be slower, and isn't necessary for phones with as much ram as ours. Swap is far different than comp cache, and may help some, but I notice no difference.
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sparksco said:
I use advanced task killer and it works fine. Under settings I have auto kill set to safe and to do it when screen turns off
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I don't recommend anyone use this.
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one thing that I do is use Titanium Backup to roll updates into the ROM. it hasnt caused me any issues yet that a reboot doesnt solve.
If you long press on an item in Titanium Backup...you get an option to integrate update into rom. Doing that will free up a small bit of storage, but for multiple apps it might add up for some people. My phone is smooth as butter running CM7

l2icky said:
I don't recommend anyone use this.
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Maybe running donut or eclair, but anything post froyo has absolutely no need for a task killer, simply use google search.
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Juice Defender

So i tried juice defender and i love it... Best part for me is where it turns off data when I'm not using it. However i have one problem. When i use up most of the phone's ram, like with multiple opera tabs or a game, jd is killed. The only way i can restart the service is rebooting. Is there a fix for this?
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You can open JD and it should restart itself...at worst you should be able to disable and reenable it. To stop it from dying...are you running V6? If so, you might want to try some more conservative memory settings.

use Loopy Smoothness to keep it in RAM
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Personal battery life record

Just passed 48 hrs on single charge. Zeus rom, Infusion kernel, new B1 modem. Fixed wakelocks with Better Battery Stats.
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seano666 said:
Just passed 48 hrs on single charge. Zeus rom, Infusion kernel, new B1 modem. Fixed wakelocks with Better Battery Stats.
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Qkster! Post your pic.. That's not even close to the best.. Just wait til you see that one.. But PR congrats.
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Erik_T said:
Qkster! Post your pic.. That's not even close to the best.. Just wait til you see that one.. But PR congrats.
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lol..no, Sean has me beat, Erik.

How you do that? Perhaps It's no record but it's good...
Some questions I have:
Did you use data?
It's true that using an app killer so often, it's no good for battery b/c, of the open and closing of apps...?
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ntorresla said:
It's true that using an app killer so often, it's no good for battery b/c, of the open and closing of apps...?
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No. That is not true. BUT you are right. Task killers like ATK and others do nothing for battery. All that they do is screw up the way that gb handles your ram. Do not use. Period. They DO NOT help you.
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Thanks! That's the opinion I wanted to hear..
But how yu can get the crazy battery life?
I use ki3 modem (mi 2g and 3g data are slow here) with entropy kernel, and almighty Zeus rom
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Erik_T said:
No. That is not true. BUT you are right. Task killers like ATK and others do nothing for battery. All that they do is screw up the way that gb handles your ram. Do not use. Period. They DO NOT help you.
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+1 I never use aftermarket task killers, the built in one is way better. I have a shortcut on the home screen that I use often. Usually I kill all tasks and clean RAM when shutting off the phone (If I have been using apps). Yes I use Data and Wifi. Over half of the time on the screenshot was with both on. The new modem has made a pretty good difference as far as I can tell. Some of them are really bad on battery, I've noticed L2 is one of the worst. Probably the biggest factor is uninstalling a few apps that were keeping my phone from going into deep sleep. An Alarm app was the worst culprit, and a couple of others with automatic notifications that I disabled. I hate automatic notifications.

Battery saver apps

Hey guys I would just like ppl opinion on the various battery saving apps that are available on the market.
Do you think they actually work? best apps(in your opinion) and best configuration to save most battery.
I have juice defender and and it always says that it is saving me somewhere around 1.6 but I'm not totally sure that that is the case.
I have not had it installed for the last couple of days and my battery doesn't seem to be noticeable y worse than when it was installed
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I have stopped using them. I have think it depends in how a person uses their phone to start with. All of those options, can be done manually. I personally got tires of switching to different profiles for what I was doing. I haven't noticed much difference myself.
but, that is just my experience.
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chrism.brunner said:
I have stopped using them. I have think it depends in how a person uses their phone to start with. All of those options, can be done manually. I personally got tires of switching to different profiles for what I was doing. I haven't noticed much difference myself.
but, that is just my experience.
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Yes well that's the way I'm going I think. They taking up space and memory on phone and not really getting any noticeable benefit from having them installed.
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gavmac said:
Yes well that's the way I'm going I think. They taking up space and memory on phone and not really getting any noticeable benefit from having them installed.
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They do keep us occupied ...... for about a week. That's worth something I guess.
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The battery on my phone is going iPhone-ish, I need one of the battery saving apps, Are there any decent ones yet?

I would try Bataria from the market. Its free, and doesn't use much resources to do its job. I think the best is to manually adjust different settings on your phone. Same results, nothing running in the background to do it.

I am using Greenpowe.

Battery apps are usually crap. The only ones that really work are the ones that modify how your phone's software works. And those almost always require root access.
If by chance you are rooted, I recommend SetCPU, Autostarts and Autokiller. SetCPU will allow you to set profiles such as throttling while the screen is off, which will save you a ton of battery. Autostarts will stop custom apps from starting with your phone's OS, which leads to less background processes. And Autokiller will ensure that you have plenty of free memory for less tasks being killed and restarted. That alone has the potential to make a huge difference in your battery life.

I'm not trying for snarky, but
An app can't save battery by running
But you can save battery by turning something off

Yoshiofthewire said:
I'm not trying for snarky, but
An app can't save battery by running
But you can save battery by turning something off
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I totally agree.

My uncle uses juice defender, but I think it's better for the battery to manage everything yourself.
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yeah I've been using Juice Defender. It does save some battery life.

If you have a horrible phone like mine, juice defender ultimate works wonders. My LG optimus m gets about 12 hours of life without it, and about 18 hours with it.
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On my OG EVO I used juice defender plus and it helped out greatly. Saw 1.8x a couple of times. On the new EVO LTE I don't use a thing and it keeps going and going and going...
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