Hey guys, the longer I leave the phone on the less RAM I have.. I am down to a measly 62MB of ram at the end of the day.. I thought that android 2.2+ didn't need task killers? Anyone have any apps or ideas to help with that?
Edit: Please move this thread, I posted it in the completely wrong section I didn't have my glasses on, sorry.
Don't use any task killers but if you need a memory helper def go with "autokiller" from market. Its free and will def free up some ram for ya.
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Does your phone slow down? If it's not slowing down, don't worry about it. Apps stay asleep in ram and don't run, this just means they don't have to be reloaded and are saved in the position they are in when you left them... this is the pseudo multi-tasking. If it's not slow, don't mess with it. Mine runs down that low fairly often with no loss of speed. But you can adjust the minimum settings in autokiller as suggested above if it bothers you that much
you can always enable some swap space.
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Ron Overdrive said:
you can always enable some swap space.
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Are you talking about compcache?
And my phone seems to progressively get laggier throughout the day but a reboot every morning seems to be sufficient.
Using autokiller with the optimum preset keeps me with 120 mb free and things still run fast and smooth. . .
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I use advanced task killer and it works fine. Under settings I have auto kill set to safe and to do it when screen turns off
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Comp cache will be slower, and isn't necessary for phones with as much ram as ours. Swap is far different than comp cache, and may help some, but I notice no difference.
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I use advanced task killer and it works fine. Under settings I have auto kill set to safe and to do it when screen turns off
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I don't recommend anyone use this.
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one thing that I do is use Titanium Backup to roll updates into the ROM. it hasnt caused me any issues yet that a reboot doesnt solve.
If you long press on an item in Titanium Backup...you get an option to integrate update into rom. Doing that will free up a small bit of storage, but for multiple apps it might add up for some people. My phone is smooth as butter running CM7
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I don't recommend anyone use this.
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Maybe running donut or eclair, but anything post froyo has absolutely no need for a task killer, simply use google search.
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Anyone having issues with Apps getting killed despite the fact that they don't have a task killer installed? I will open Apps and leave them running, go back to the home screen, and when I open my task manager minutes later, they are gone. I know that the system does its own kind of memory management but is it suppose to be doing this? The reason it is frustrating me is because often when I back out of an app or unlock the phone, my launcher pro acts like it has been reset, and I have to sit there while all of my widgets reload. Maybe it has always done this and I am just now realizing it. Just curious if anyone else has experinced this.
Running eb16, pnp, voodoo, green steel theme.
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In launcher pro go in setting and check "keep in memory”
JayRHamlin said:
Anyone having issues with Apps getting killed despite the fact that they don't have a task killer installed? I will open Apps and leave them running, go back to the home screen, and when I open my task manager minutes later, they are gone. I know that the system does its own kind of memory management but is it suppose to be doing this? The reason it is frustrating me is because often when I back out of an app or unlock the phone, my launcher pro acts like it has been reset, and I have to sit there while all of my widgets reload. Maybe it has always done this and I am just now realizing it. Just curious if anyone else has experinced this.
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this happens to me too, since upgrading to froyo the memory management has been the only bad thing.
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I think as soon as we have source some good kernels will be coming our way. I always had that problem with the vibrant until I used modded kernels with increases in ram.
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I don't understand why. .when u open up certain apps.....like 10 unrelated apps all start up in the bg. If I wanted them to start I will open them...I mean seriously this is the only os that does this
Osmonitor is a good app to see whats running
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Yeah I know. I use auto memory optimizer. Keeps more free ram. I set it to optimum.
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Mines at like 210mb alk the time. I kill all apps and level 2 clear! It used to be 160ish, stock rom. I dont have very much installed either.. Whats up?
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Irierider said:
Mines at like 210mb alk the time. I kill all apps and level 2 clear! It used to be 160ish, stock rom. I dont have very much installed either.. Whats up?
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plz be more specific. what rom are you on?
I'm normally at around 280-300. Whats your point?
Android caches stuff in RAM automatically as part of normal operations.
Don't worry about it unless you start seeing serious issues with lowmemkiller triggering and taking out apps.
I was trying to buy juice defender plus or ultimate or try the easy battery saver+ and it says that they aren't available on my carrier. But I know I have downloaded them and seen them before. Is this something new? Is any one else having this problem? I'm running caty rom 2.0
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Awizzle said:
I was trying to buy juice defender plus or ultimate or try the easy battery saver+ and it says that they aren't available on my carrier. But I know I have downloaded them and seen them before. Is this something new? Is any one else having this problem? I'm running caty rom 2.0
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Have you changed your dpi?
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No. The only thing I've done to adjust the screen is the voodoo screen tuning app. Why would that effect my ability to download certain apps?
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Awizzle said:
No. The only thing I've done to adjust the screen is the voodoo screen tuning app. Why would that effect my ability to download certain apps?
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Try this market fix if you haven't done so already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20772015&postcount=300
Just tried that, didn't fix it. Dumb question maybe, but did the carriers restrictions maybe not be removed in caty rom?
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All carrier bloated was removed in catyrom
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is it all programs that is a problem or just juice def?
if it's jd, then imho, it is really a waste of money.
catyrom is already efficient with battery life.
you're better of in dimming display, turn off wifi or data if you're not using it.
better yet:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/28070689331...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_1440wt_1139
That's kinda what I thought. It's not so much now that I want to buy a those apps(and it's not just jd) , at this point I'm more just puzzled as to why I would be getting those messages.
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Just passed 48 hrs on single charge. Zeus rom, Infusion kernel, new B1 modem. Fixed wakelocks with Better Battery Stats.
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seano666 said:
Just passed 48 hrs on single charge. Zeus rom, Infusion kernel, new B1 modem. Fixed wakelocks with Better Battery Stats.
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Qkster! Post your pic.. That's not even close to the best.. Just wait til you see that one.. But PR congrats.
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Qkster! Post your pic.. That's not even close to the best.. Just wait til you see that one.. But PR congrats.
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lol..no, Sean has me beat, Erik.
How you do that? Perhaps It's no record but it's good...
Some questions I have:
Did you use data?
It's true that using an app killer so often, it's no good for battery b/c, of the open and closing of apps...?
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ntorresla said:
It's true that using an app killer so often, it's no good for battery b/c, of the open and closing of apps...?
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No. That is not true. BUT you are right. Task killers like ATK and others do nothing for battery. All that they do is screw up the way that gb handles your ram. Do not use. Period. They DO NOT help you.
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Thanks! That's the opinion I wanted to hear..
But how yu can get the crazy battery life?
I use ki3 modem (mi 2g and 3g data are slow here) with entropy kernel, and almighty Zeus rom
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Erik_T said:
No. That is not true. BUT you are right. Task killers like ATK and others do nothing for battery. All that they do is screw up the way that gb handles your ram. Do not use. Period. They DO NOT help you.
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+1 I never use aftermarket task killers, the built in one is way better. I have a shortcut on the home screen that I use often. Usually I kill all tasks and clean RAM when shutting off the phone (If I have been using apps). Yes I use Data and Wifi. Over half of the time on the screenshot was with both on. The new modem has made a pretty good difference as far as I can tell. Some of them are really bad on battery, I've noticed L2 is one of the worst. Probably the biggest factor is uninstalling a few apps that were keeping my phone from going into deep sleep. An Alarm app was the worst culprit, and a couple of others with automatic notifications that I disabled. I hate automatic notifications.
Do you close active applications when you're done with them or simply leave them running?
I've been reading that it's best practice to just leave apps as they are when you're done using them. That you can end up causing problems or even eating more battery/resources if you use a task manager to close them.
What's your take?
If its a game or such, I exit out of the game with the back button, ending the task. I don't normally kill any other background apps unless i'm troubleshooting or its causing problems.
Its true what they say about task killers and prematurely ending tasks. Android by version 2.2 had become adept at handling background tasks and ending them when needed. No user interference is required.
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If its a game or such, I exit out of the game with the back button, ending the task. I don't normally kill any other background apps unless i'm troubleshooting or its causing problems.
Its true what they say about task killers and prematurely ending tasks. Android by version 2.2 had become adept at handling background tasks and ending them when needed. No user interference is required.
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+1. With the new ROMs Task Killers are total useless. They can do more harm then good. OF COURSE, exiting/quitting apps THAT HAVE an exit button is a good idea.
Good luck !
What about clearing ram I see thirty programs close is that bad are they apps that should be running
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What about clearing ram I see thirty programs close is that bad are they apps that should be running
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If that really bothers you it is best to REBOOT your phone. It is a much, much better way to return to "zero". And it takes a min at most...
It also really helps reset apps etc..... With something like ICS, unless you fully understand its memory mangement, clearing memory willy-nilly only leads to phone mess-up and then yu'll have to reboot any way.
Personally, I only kill an app that has stopped responding. And usually I do that by restarting.
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I kill nothing. Let android do what it does best
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I kill apps all the time since ICS leaked. Hold home and swipe away everything I'm not using.
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I kill apps all the time since ICS leaked. Hold home and swipe away everything I'm not using.
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I don't think that works the way you think it does??
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CZ Eddie said:
I don't think that works the way you think it does??
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Indeed it does. It's a built in task manager.
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Well ics handles it slightly different giving the user the ability to control the amount of stuff in the background runing. No reason to use a task manager
Really, unless an app is giving you problems or excessively draining your battery, they should be left as they are. Ever since Froyo, Android has done a really good job of memory management.