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A cupcake guide for newbs by a newb - need critisicm

Everything I know about Android, I learned from XDA.
I run a little Android blog and a lot of non-tech people have been asking for help with getting cupcake installed. I really struggled with the idea of posting a guide since so many have been done before. With all the recent cupcake builds, I thought I would attempt a guide geared towards people who have never rooted their phones and want cupcake.
Anyways, I just posted the first draft and I need help with suggestions and fact checking. I think most of it is factual, but I prob made mistakes.
If you got 5 minutes and want to help out the community, give it a quick read.
I tried to take the easy route when rooting. When I first hacked my phone, we didnt have a lot of the tools and scripts that are out now. If any step could be simplified, please let me know. Thanks.
http://www.androidandme.com/2009/05...r-rooting-your-android-g1-to-install-cupcake/

nice blog..

Nice 50 screenshots of Haykuro. Can't wait to see his next release.

Easiest way for noobs to root their phone to the latest 1.1 ROM before flashing the 1.5 ROM is to use the root app. It can be found here, along with step by step instructions.
http://allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5229
When I was a noob, I first rooted my phone using that app, but now I remember all the commands by heart lol.
edit: just looked at your blog, you already have it there.

Any other takers? I just wanted to make sure this was as friendly as possible before I offered it to people. Thanks.

You may want to check out this guys method of the root procedure. It's similar to yours, but it doesn't use the .apk file. I did it his way, and I pushed everything from my laptop to the phone, so rooting took me about 10 minutes or so.
http://several.amplify.com/2009/05/02/video-tutorial-g1-jailbreak-root-and-cupcake/
I would make a fork for those who don't have wifi access, or want to do the rooting a little quicker.
very organized your blog is though.

Thanks for the link. That looks like a good resource, but I think it is too many commands to type for some people. I'll watch all the videos and see what I think.

Good job!! Looks likes a nice guide. One thing I might add is the recovery instructions since the current JF1.5 ROM
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Newbie guide to rooting Inspire 4G?

So I'm curious if anyone can point me in the direction of a good guide for a first-time rooting experience.
I am BRAND NEW from the iPhone world. Over there I was very comfortable jailbreaking, with the process and terms, and ins and outs of the jailbreaking world.
Now I just got my inspire 4g and I'm lost in trying to learn the root\flash\rom process. I feel like such an idiot because I always get pissed when people ask for step by step newbie process in the iOS jailbreak forums, now I'm doing it, lol
My goal is to root is for the sole purpose of enabling the HSUPA feature. I'm unlocked already (bought an unlock code), so that's really the primary reason for unlocking for me.
An additional benefit would be able to remove the AT&T bloatware, which is annoying me. Does anyone actually use the ATT branded barcode scanner? LOL.
Anyhow, if anyone is willing to help, I would appreciate it greatly.
Thanks!

check out this video guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957559

epicKA8 said:
check out this video guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957559
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I followed this video.. this is my first Android phone and first time rooting a phone... the video was perfect and rooted and installed a custom ROM with no problem.

epicKA8 said:
check out this video guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957559
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I seriously can't be this stupid. LOL. I have watched this 20x and I figure I can follow it step by step and have success, but the question I have is this:
- Is there a way to not have to do step 1 then step 2 to correct the audio? In other words has anyone compiled a video or written step by step on a process that does it without having to go back and fix the audio?
- If I do this method, when I re-login to google, will it re-download all the apps I had previously downloaded? And will it re-add the email accounts, or do I have to set it all up as new?
- I see many referring to the "stock ATT" ... so that'll bring back the ATT stuff, but remove the limitation and allow HSUPA? And does it re-add bloatware but I can then delete it? Do all the stock themes\apps come loaded still?
Thanks, I really wish there was a "here's exactly what to do, step by step, keystroke by keystroke" kinda to-do style list... I know many prefer seeing on youtube, but I'm more of a process\step-list type, and it's confusing because the forum has about 10 sets of instructions, some say they have audio problems, others have an amendment to fix the audio after, some say it's possible not to have the issue to begin with, just trying to make sense of it all as I'm totally new to Android.

I an having nothing but trouble also!
Finally I can make it to the bootloader screen but any option I choose locks thephone with the "Scary Emblem" and I have to remove the Battery to restart it.
Anybody able to help?
Please?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11908710

bella92108 said:
I seriously can't be this stupid. LOL. I have watched this 20x and I figure I can follow it step by step and have success, but the question I have is this:
- Is there a way to not have to do step 1 then step 2 to correct the audio? In other words has anyone compiled a video or written step by step on a process that does it without having to go back and fix the audio?
- If I do this method, when I re-login to google, will it re-download all the apps I had previously downloaded? And will it re-add the email accounts, or do I have to set it all up as new?
- I see many referring to the "stock ATT" ... so that'll bring back the ATT stuff, but remove the limitation and allow HSUPA? And does it re-add bloatware but I can then delete it? Do all the stock themes\apps come loaded still?
Thanks, I really wish there was a "here's exactly what to do, step by step, keystroke by keystroke" kinda to-do style list... I know many prefer seeing on youtube, but I'm more of a process\step-list type, and it's confusing because the forum has about 10 sets of instructions, some say they have audio problems, others have an amendment to fix the audio after, some say it's possible not to have the issue to begin with, just trying to make sense of it all as I'm totally new to Android.
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Please let me know if you find instructions like that. I am the same way. I literally have had my Inspire from ATT for 2 days after having six BlackBerry's and all I get are rude remarks, links to videos that assume I've done this before and absolutely no questions answered. I was referred to use the Unrevoked3 which is supposed to be "painless" and could work with the Inspire since it's similar to Desire, but all I got was a link to the download and if I try to ask questions, I'm not allowed because I'm a noob or I get the "Google it" response...which...duh..that's how I found this place. Every Android forum reminds me of my Business Calculus professor. When asked if he could walk us through a six page homework problem, he threw a desk at the wall and called us names. LOL I guess only elite are allowed info. I can't even get a response as far as whether or not Unrevoked3 will actually work on the Inspire! Sigh. *smh*

StoopidNoob said:
Please let me know if you find instructions like that. I am the same way. I literally have had my Inspire from ATT for 2 days after having six BlackBerry's and all I get are rude remarks, links to videos that assume I've done this before and absolutely no questions answered. I was referred to use the Unrevoked3 which is supposed to be "painless" and could work with the Inspire since it's similar to Desire, but all I got was a link to the download and if I try to ask questions, I'm not allowed because I'm a noob or I get the "Google it" response...which...duh..that's how I found this place. Every Android forum reminds me of my Business Calculus professor. When asked if he could walk us through a six page homework problem, he threw a desk at the wall and called us names. LOL I guess only elite are allowed info. I can't even get a response as far as whether or not Unrevoked3 will actually work on the Inspire! Sigh. *smh*
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I have found all the information I have needed to date by reading first. It's not an attitude unique to this forum... it happens elsewhere on the internet.
With processes like this, I would think one would want to be armed with as much knowledge prior to starting, as possible.
People get stuck on unique problems, and ask for help, and nearly without exception, if some degree of effort has been made by the person asking, then people are pretty willing to assist.
If people come in an ask questions that would have been easily answered had they taken the extra five minutes to check if it had been addressed already, it shows... its easy to tell if someone has made even the slightest effort to educate themselves first, or if they're just expecting free technical support.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using Tapatalk Pro

Can't we all just get along?
For any newbies wanting to get started and have step-by-step instructions, you should visit the Hack Kit thread, download the zip file, and read that readme!
Link to hack kit thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
To be honest, I think if the hack kit thread was made into a sticky it might get more attention from the new inspire owners.
EDIT: Just to be clear. The hack kit contains a full step-by-step procedure. The only change to this I recommend is using the gold card maker in the following thread (unless it's now included with the kit) :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970157

Give a man a fish and he'll eat tonight teach a man to fish and he'll eat the rest of his life, or something.
[harsh mode]This stuff isn't brain surgery. If you want root badly enough you'll figure it out. [/harsh mode]

gunnyman said:
Give a man a fish and he'll eat tonight teach a man to fish and he'll eat the rest of his life, or something.
[harsh mode]This stuff isn't brain surgery. If you want root badly enough you'll figure it out. [/harsh mode]
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LOL, i get that, but you cant throw him a pole, a hook, and bait and say, read this and learn.

I think there is an important difference between a newbie who wants the answers spoonfed to them, and a newbie who is genuinely trying but just doesn't get it. Some people (myself included) need a little hand holding through the process. It's sort of like pulling someone out of a third world country who's never seen a car, and expecting them to learn to drive by reading a drivers ed manual.
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I've seen a few please root my phone for me threads. These people make me crazy. I don't know what else to say. We have bubbys super easy method and the hack kit which has a easy to follow step by step and a video. I've only had one phone that was 1 click root capable, the Captivate. The others were work, so I learned. I was a noob once, we all were. But I educated myself. There are folks which don't want to even try to do that.
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I have to say, I'm with NOOB here.
As far as "bubby's" super easy one click, ya, maybe IF I had time to read through 238 pages of geekchat banter and decode the "FAQ" that was written in a haphazard method.
Nothing personal, but maybe YOU guys know how to do this but many of us do not.
I've spent 3 days going over instructions, videos and other how-to's only to find myself frustrated at the process and procedures.
I'm now at the point where I can get to my boot loader but no matter what mod.zip file I have on the root of the card I get a black screen.
2 things RIGHT off the top of my head that were not discussed (or at least I didn't find them in).
1- The original CID I sent to have a gold card made from was bunk. Only during my (IDK) 10th attempt at running bubby's one click root did I notice the CID had changed and sent that one in for a gold card did it work.
2- NO where in any instructions or FAQ did it mention to hold the "UP" button when rebooting to access the recovery mode. Which BTW, still doesn't work properly.
Maybe I got a bunk phone. Who knows. But I do know this. It took my less time to root my nexus one and even less time to quickpwn my iFails.
You would think with all the knowledge that exists in this forum, someone would sit down and make a step by step guide on how to root your HTC Inspire from start to finish INCLUDING potential pitfalls and errors.
Instead, new users such as myself and NOOB are left to decypher and piece together a way to root the phone.
No one has asked you to root their phone. All the NOOBS like myself are asking is for you to pool your collective intelligence and come up with a GUIDE even an IDIOT like myself can follow.
... and make it a sticky with NO additional chatter on the thread.

corbin dallas said:
I have to say, I'm with NOOB here.
As far as "bubby's" super easy one click, ya, maybe IF I had time to read through 238 pages of geekchat banter and decode the "FAQ" that was written in a haphazard method.
[...] No one has asked you to root their phone. All the NOOBS like myself are asking is for you to pool your collective intelligence and come up with a GUIDE even an IDIOT like myself can follow.
... and make it a sticky with NO additional chatter on the thread.
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I mean no hatred, but rooting this phone isn't an easy process. I've been hacking windows phones for years but this was my first android root and it took me over 4 horus start to finish - and i had to troubleshoot a lot of problems on my own since it was 6 am with no one on xda. the problem with creating a complete hacker's guide is that there are SO MANy unique issues that people have, that there's no way to account for all of them if you're able to do it on your own successfully - then in that case why would you go back and try to mess stuff up to create a page about waht to do if XXXXXX happens? I had some issues during my root process, but I posted somewhere asking for help, detailing exactly which steps i had taken prior to having trouble, what my issues were specifically (including code), as well as what i did to FIX my issues after I had figured it out. People here don't like being asked vague and general questions about why xxxxxxx isn't working, which is why usually tehy like for people to be as specific as possible. I'm not angry with your or any other person that has issues rooting, but i'm simply trying to explain why other people get pissy and are brief when a little morehelp would do. a lot of people just need to read a bit more before they post, which is what pisses everyone off, but hey, we all need to start somewhere right?
as for your specific issues, did you use the CID1 or the CID2? The guides (video and hack kit) both call for you to use the CID2 so if you didn't use that right off the bat, that's waht your issue was. As for your black screen, what step are you talking about? Are you able to downgrade your rom? or is taht where you're having issues? and i didn't use any of bubby's one click stuff, but what's teh mod.zip file supposed to do? I followed the hack kit and video walk through both and adb sent the downgrade rom to my phone, it rebooted into recovery (ON ITS OWN - i didn't have to get it into recovery myself) and i had to scroll to tell it to load the rom and that was it. maybe your issue is that you're skipping steps? do you have a good connection to your phone between your comp/is teh whole downgrade rom being transferred to your phone? I know i had that issue where after 4 or 5 commands from the command prompt, it would lose connection with my phone and i would have to restart before i could send another command through adb...
lastly, to answer your question about the one click rooting, i think we all wish tihs phone had that, but it doesn't and it sucks. as i'm sure you've read, the only way to do this is through a radio exploit in a downgraded rom thanks to att being a bi***a** about sideloading and whatnot. it is waht it is.
anyways, i hope i answered your questions adn maybe even helped you out with the rooting. if you need more help, feel free to start another thread and PM me the link to it. hopefully i'll check my PM's and be able to help you with it. jsut remember, be as descriptive as possible and no one will flame you

Scott_S said:
I have found all the information I have needed to date by reading first. It's not an attitude unique to this forum... it happens elsewhere on the internet.
With processes like this, I would think one would want to be armed with as much knowledge prior to starting, as possible.
People get stuck on unique problems, and ask for help, and nearly without exception, if some degree of effort has been made by the person asking, then people are pretty willing to assist.
If people come in an ask questions that would have been easily answered had they taken the extra five minutes to check if it had been addressed already, it shows... its easy to tell if someone has made even the slightest effort to educate themselves first, or if they're just expecting free technical support.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using Tapatalk Pro
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/begin rant
You read my mind...
Honestly people, the development thread has practically every answer to any question that could come to mind throughout the process, but you have to be willing to put in the effort to read pages upon pages of advice.
A few days of reading and learning will reward you with a perfectly rooted device, but you can't be lazy about it.
If after sifting through the development thread (and using a handy little tool called google...) you still can't make any sense of this, maybe you should ask yourself if you should really be doing this in the first place?
These developers work hard to put out what we have available today and they really jumped on this particular phone rapidly, and the methods available today work. I used bubby323's "HTC Inspire 4G Simple Root and S-Off" and from start to finish I rooted two Inspires and loaded them with custom ROMs in under an hour.
At least meet them halfway in the effort department people.
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Keep in mind also that those of us who rooted had to read through pages and pages and pages if we got stuck, it's rather annoying to read "I didn't want to have to go through that huge thread to find my answer" What makes you so special?

corbin dallas said:
I have to say, I'm with NOOB here.
As far as "bubby's" super easy one click, ya, maybe IF I had time to read through 238 pages of geekchat banter and decode the "FAQ" that was written in a haphazard method.
Nothing personal, but maybe YOU guys know how to do this but many of us do not.
I've spent 3 days going over instructions, videos and other how-to's only to find myself frustrated at the process and procedures.
I'm now at the point where I can get to my boot loader but no matter what mod.zip file I have on the root of the card I get a black screen.
2 things RIGHT off the top of my head that were not discussed (or at least I didn't find them in).
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Where exactly are you at in the process? Do you have S-OFF and can you confirm you are rooted? If so, you have already done the hard part. Am I reading correct that when you try to get into recovery mode (via rom manager or by Vol-Down + PWR) that the phone reboots and then fades to black?

this would require you to do eng s-off, i had the same issue with inspire

I researched for a. Week...reading everything I could find....which included 238 pages and an faq that...was written haphazardly (though I found useful) prepared myself for any eventuality.

[Q] extreme noob... need help

I am hoping I can get step by step instructions so I can put custom roms on my HTC sensation. Do I need a new radio? S-off? Recovery? I'm a little scared but I definitely want the most out of my phone. Please be as detailed as possible and please don't assume I know anything. Thank you for your time, info, and patience.

Search. Read. There's like 10 posts like this every day.
There is a detailed sticky in the development section.
I mean seriously what more do u want? If ur scared don't do it.
Sent from my SENSATIONal 4G using Xda App.

Really? Don't think that was necessary. I'm just trying to get detailed instructions. Ive searched and read. Most posts are very nice but they assume you know the basics. Just want an "front to back" if possible.

Dude seriously, there is a guide just for noobs if you search. Nobody is gonna flash it for you son.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App

The guide is as detailed as possible, what else do you need? How to press a button? How long to press it?
Sent from my HTC Sensation using XDA Premium App

Wow... never mind. I have looked and looked and maybe I just haven't came across the right post. I'm trying people. Forgive me for being ignorant I guess. Guess saying please and thank you is no longer appreciated. Forget it. Geez...

joshnaomi said:
Wow... never mind. I have looked and looked and maybe I just haven't came across the right post. I'm trying people. Forgive me for being ignorant I guess. Guess saying please and thank you is no longer appreciated. Forget it. Geez...
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You asked a question which is answered at least once or twice everyday, what do you expect? On top of that there's a sticky thread on the development section which only needs copy and pasting.
Sent from my own custom Rom for sensation. 200mb free :3

2 PEOPLE JUST TOLD U WHERE TO FIND THE THREAD! ARE U SERIOUS.?!?!?
Sent from my SENSATIONal 4G using Xda App.

There is a link in the development section. I followed it and did everything in about 1-2 hours. Good luck. I found that the biggest hurdle in the process was my computer detecting the phone. So if you need drivers go download the HTC Sync.

I am in need of a guide on how to go pee in the toilet in my house. Any help?
Any way, here is a good idea. If there is something that you are having a hard time understanding. Like the meaning of a word. Let's take for instance the word s-off. All you have to do is open a browser and type in Google. What is s-off. You will get a definition for it. So, go to the sticky in the forums that explains how to root and
ROM your cell. And open a separate browser and use it to understand the words that you are having a hard time knowing. I had a problem in the beginning also. I am the type of person that needs to know why and how instead of just doing what the directions plainly spell out for us. It's not that I couldn't do it without knowing why things are the way that they are. I just needed the comfort of the knowledge behind it all. And now, I am desperately trying to figure out how to become a developer. All while raising a family and working ridiculous hours. But, I have a so called smart phone. And a tablet. So, basically I have a plethora of knowledge at my finger tips at almost any time. You have to understand some people's frustration with these questions. It gets dauntingly overwhelming more and more every day. The forums are not welfare. They are not something to be taken lightly. And we are never to expect that everything should be handed to us. If some one here was to explain in absolute detail and hold your hand through the entire process. You would not learn much and you would not get the most out of your phone. You can only get the most out of it when you feel the satisfaction of knowing that you put some real time into getting it to work just so for your needs. Otherwise, you will truly not appreciate it. Also, if hand holding went on every day, then it would become an expectation of every other no dev that they deserve help. Kind of like the majority of life long welfare recipients. They get offended when it gets taken away and they feel entitled to it. I know, because I know some one that views it that way. Because things have been handed to them almost all there life. It's not cool. Now, go and read until you are confident that you can do this. It truly is a very easy thing. It seems overwhelming. But when you look back, you will say to turn self. Realty? I actually tried to get people to help me to do this? You will feel ashamed. But at the same time you will feel accomplished and will be able to possibly give back to the community in some way. Any way, that is just how I see it.
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If you put that much energy into being helpful as you just did being a jerk, maybe people like me would see how easy it really is. I've successfully flashed roms on my hd2, im just a little intimidated by the whole s-off thing so bite me. Thanks xdalite for being civilized. To everyone else, I'm a woman who is slightly hesitant to risk bricking a $400 phone. I realize everyone takes that risk, but because I only know how to do it one way, I wanted comments that were directed toward me and not on a general post. I'm not an idiot. Forgive the little people, oh wise ones.

MAn just click the Link in my signature and get to the guide. ITS NOOB PROOF!
I apologise on behalf of other users . everyone was a noob once, android, what the hell is android??? that what i said exactly 10 months ago. never used it before that, ive come a long way now!
If you follow the guide, the risks are very minimal.
Whatever u do, do not do step 5 of the guide, there is a risk of bricking, i semi-bricked but recovered.
steps 1 - 4 of my guide
i have yet to find someone who has bricked it using those steps, and i dont think u will be the first either

Thank you so very much. I'm going to try it today. Seriously ... thanks so much.

Jaytronics said:
I am in need of a guide on how to go pee in the toilet in my house. Any help?
Any way, here is a good idea. If there is something that you are having a hard time understanding. Like the meaning of a word. Let's take for instance the word s-off. All you have to do is open a browser and type in Google. What is s-off. You will get a definition for it. So, go to the sticky in the forums that explains how to root and
ROM your cell. And open a separate browser and use it to understand the words that you are having a hard time knowing. I had a problem in the beginning also. I am the type of person that needs to know why and how instead of just doing what the directions plainly spell out for us. It's not that I couldn't do it without knowing why things are the way that they are. I just needed the comfort of the knowledge behind it all. And now, I am desperately trying to figure out how to become a developer. All while raising a family and working ridiculous hours. But, I have a so called smart phone. And a tablet. So, basically I have a plethora of knowledge at my finger tips at almost any time. You have to understand some people's frustration with these questions. It gets dauntingly overwhelming more and more every day. The forums are not welfare. They are not something to be taken lightly. And we are never to expect that everything should be handed to us. If some one here was to explain in absolute detail and hold your hand through the entire process. You would not learn much and you would not get the most out of your phone. You can only get the most out of it when you feel the satisfaction of knowing that you put some real time into getting it to work just so for your needs. Otherwise, you will truly not appreciate it. Also, if hand holding went on every day, then it would become an expectation of every other no dev that they deserve help. Kind of like the majority of life long welfare recipients. They get offended when it gets taken away and they feel entitled to it. I know, because I know some one that views it that way. Because things have been handed to them almost all there life. It's not cool. Now, go and read until you are confident that you can do this. It truly is a very easy thing. It seems overwhelming. But when you look back, you will say to turn self. Realty? I actually tried to get people to help me to do this? You will feel ashamed. But at the same time you will feel accomplished and will be able to possibly give back to the community in some way. Any way, that is just how I see it.
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Thank you so much. I know it has to be frustrating for everyone when noobs ask questions over and over and i get it, but trust me, its not laziness or ignorance, its just the will to be thorough and informed just as you mentioned. Thanks again.

[GUIDE]Newest Root Method For Evo 4G

After successfully rooting two prior Evo's with the old unrEVOked method, I thought it was time to update the guide for the new rEVOlutionary method. Basically follows the steps outlined on revolutionary.io but with a few extra helpful hints (aka GLARING omissions from their help text/instructions). Check it out and let me know if I missed anything!

Good job making the tutorial, I will try with a couple of phones at work tomorrow.
Thanks

Many thanks for the guide. Just one thing to note. The steps in the tutorial start at number four. Looks good otherwise!

Pierceye said:
Many thanks for the guide. Just one thing to note. The steps in the tutorial start at number four. Looks good otherwise!
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Lmao really? I'll fix it...

Steps show up numbered correctly for me. Hmmm, what browser are Chou using? Im using Firefox (mobile and desktop) but I remember it looked OK on Chrome and the stock Android browser

D'oh!
lol I see, the picture was covering it, it's fixed now!

dimebagdan65 said:
lol I see, the picture was covering it, it's fixed now!
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I think your rooting method will help others but believe me they will still ask questions. Honestly though the other two rooting methods for 2.3.3 on xda are basically the same as this one. Maybe all of you guys should get together and make one thread to be the referenced.
Multiple threads will only confuse already scared and confused people trying to root. Believe me I have helped quite a few that are truly worried and sometimes its simply because of them reading how to do the same thing multiple ways and are not sure which one is the best route for them to take.
Once again not bashing just suggesting....Nice write up though and suggesting roms is nice, maybe you should put links for stock rooted as well though

playya said:
I think your rooting method will help others but believe me they will still ask questions. Honestly though the other two rooting methods for 2.3.3 on xda are basically the same as this one. Maybe all of you guys should get together and make one thread to be the referenced.
Multiple threads will only confuse already scared and confused people trying to root. Believe me I have helped quite a few that are truly worried and sometimes its simply because of them reading how to do the same thing multiple ways and are not sure which one is the best route for them to take.
Once again not bashing just suggesting....Nice write up though and suggesting roms is nice, maybe you should put links for stock rooted as well though
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Good call on pointing out the benefits of rooted stock! Will update asap. And I totally agree about having a one-stop spot for info, but unfortunately there's too many to consolidate. The best practice I've found is to follow a guide on a site with lots of active users or with a voraciously active moderator. Speaking of which, that's a good idea for a write up! " How to cull the good information from the bad" or something along those lines, y'know? Heck, most of the people I know don't even know how to perform an efficient google search lol

Bricked one phone.. Got replacement. Need Help

Okay so I had a G2x and tried rooting it and I think i did something wrong. With all these instructions ramble on about one thing and another hard for me to really understand all the correct steps.
So can I please have someone give me a hand with this? As in a step by step process of everything? This is my second G2X brand new from T-Mobile has the Gingerbread 2.3.3. So if anyone can actually tell me step by step and what files I am going to need so I don't brick this one because 300USD is getting expensive.

u payed for ur replacement? lol
use the one click flash nvidia tool, to flash the clockworkmod, you dont evne have to root it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG08Uc8pQT0

yeah I had to pay for a second one. GRRR T-Mo actually checks their phones with sprint if I bricked or something just dip it in water and send it in. They would never check to see if you rooted it. So anyways do I install Clockwork or only do the steps in the video with the nv flasher?
And whats the best rom? I really like the looks of MIUI sorta looks like my wifes iPhone.

i think you screwed yourself on this one... this phone is like virtually unbrickable, nvflash should be able to bring you out of any soft bricks you might run into and ive run into a fair share of them and never had a problem...
i would recommend you sift though the development section and read all of the tutorials and have a very good understanding of what you are doing instead of having someone spoonfeed you everything when you really dont know what you are doing... (im a high school math teacher and cannot stand it when students are just spoonfed information because in the end they really dont understand what they are doing)
start here though http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847

Yeah, what he said. maybe you shouldn't be messing with your phone if you don't understand the implications.

JHaste said:
(im a high school math teacher and cannot stand it when students are just spoonfed information because in the end they really dont understand what they are doing)
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Best thing I've ever read. It helps shine a light on why so many people almost daily are asking for help on how to do something when this forum is riddled with tutorials. I personally stopped helping months ago with any questions on how to root or flash or just anything that there are tutorials for. It just gets crazy redundant.
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Beekersguy said:
Yeah, what he said. maybe you shouldn't be messing with your phone if you don't understand the implications.
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JHaste said:
(im a high school math teacher and cannot stand it when students are just spoonfed information because in the end they really dont understand what they are doing)
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guitarist5122 said:
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Best thing I've ever read. It helps shine a light on why so many people almost daily are asking for help on how to do something when this forum is riddled with tutorials. I personally stopped helping months ago with any questions on how to root or flash or just anything that there are tutorials for. It just gets crazy redundant.
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Then why even post in here? Don't be a ****. Even more frustrating than people who can't use a search feature are people too uptight and high-strung to help someone. Yeah, maybe the OP could have found the answer himself. But he's obviously been following a tutorial (likely in this very forum) that's not working for him (hence his replacement phone). The guy just needs two seconds of help from someone. In the amount of time it took me to copy/paste the following links, I could have torn him a new one thirty times over. But I'm not a ****. So, if you absolutely HAVE to post here, at least make it constructive. Incessant *****ing does no good for anyone.
To the OP:
Firstly, you'll need to flash CWM. This is super simple, given you're on a PC. If you're on Mac, things will get tricky (i.e. virtual Linux environment, headaches, etc).
Next, you can find an easy to follow rooting method here. It even has an unroot .zip option given you have to send your phone in again (will save you another $300 ).
And of course, you can PM me if you need any help. If these are the steps you have already followed, here's a YouTube video with some visuals. When I'm stuck on something, that usually helps me a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CEjInNY5Y0
Good luck!

Uhhhh... i really dont understand how i was being a ****... I simply stated that he should have a holistic understanding of what hes doing before he starts tinkering because the figure it out as you go method can lead to a 300 dollar paper weight. Not to mention I pointed him in the right direction to start....
All I did was give a bit of advice that I felt was in his best interest and then sent him on his way...
If you think what I originally posted was flaming then you clearly have never seen me tear somebody a new one lol

Dont worry man
sent from my Sensation XD

ericalanMICHAEL said:
Then why even post in here? Don't be a ****. Even more frustrating than people who can't use a search feature are people too uptight and high-strung to help someone.
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Cuz I thought what he said was funny and agreed. I didnt realize the average joe had the right to question peoples right to agree and post. Don't get self-righteous on us.
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ericalanMICHAEL said:
Then why even post in here? Don't be a ****. Even more frustrating than people who can't use a search feature are people too uptight and high-strung to help someone. Yeah, maybe the OP could have found the answer himself. But he's obviously been following a tutorial (likely in this very forum) that's not working for him (hence his replacement phone). The guy just needs two seconds of help from someone. In the amount of time it took me to copy/paste the following links, I could have torn him a new one thirty times over. But I'm not a ****. So, if you absolutely HAVE to post here, at least make it constructive. Incessant *****ing does no good for anyone.
To the OP:
Firstly, you'll need to flash CWM. This is super simple, given you're on a PC. If you're on Mac, things will get tricky (i.e. virtual Linux environment, headaches, etc).
Next, you can find an easy to follow rooting method here. It even has an unroot .zip option given you have to send your phone in again (will save you another $300 ).
And of course, you can PM me if you need any help. If these are the steps you have already followed, here's a YouTube video with some visuals. When I'm stuck on something, that usually helps me a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CEjInNY5Y0
Good luck!
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They are being difficult. What they realize is that the OP has already stated that he's bricked one device because he cannot follow directions. He obviously does not know what he's doing, and has problems following instructions because, as he put it..they go on and on... In the end even if he successfully roots his phone, he may wind up causing himself problems by having access to system files because it's obvious he doesn't really know what he's doing. Everyone shouldn't root. If you cannot follow the simple instructions to root without "bricking" a device, and you cannot follow simple instructions to bring the device back to an operational state, then perhaps rooting is not for you (OP). It just sounds like he is going to cause himself even more problems.

mysterioustko said:
They are being difficult. What they realize is that the OP has already stated that he's bricked one device because he cannot follow directions. He obviously does not know what he's doing, and has problems following instructions because, as he put it..they go on and on... In the end even if he successfully roots his phone, he may wind up causing himself problems by having access to system files because it's obvious he doesn't really know what he's doing. Everyone shouldn't root. If you cannot follow the simple instructions to root without "bricking" a device, and you cannot follow simple instructions to bring the device back to an operational state, then perhaps rooting is not for you (OP). It just sounds like he is going to cause himself even more problems.
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^^this... root access to phones is not a hand out, it has to be earned, and you earn it by educating yourself about your device and its capabilities and by following simple instructions...

sabwjawdjw said:
yeah I had to pay for a second one. GRRR T-Mo actually checks their phones with sprint if I bricked or something just dip it in water and send it in. They would never check to see if you rooted it. So anyways do I install Clockwork or only do the steps in the video with the nv flasher?
And whats the best rom? I really like the looks of MIUI sorta looks like my wifes iPhone.
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I can't believe no one has said this yet.
Most phones have water sensors, so dipping it in water would just void the warranty. Sorry if you were joking. But as many have said, it's pretty easy to flash the phone back to normal so the TMobile doesn't know it's been hacked. Did you ask here first?

I am thankful for all the responses. Sorry if I caused grief and headache to anyone. I was finally able to get my phone rooted giving the information that someone provided to me on here. I sent him a PM to personally thank him.
By all means I should probably be *****ed at if I don't follow instructions very well. I have always considered myself a visual learner. If I don't have hands on and able to see it done, it really complicates things for me. I guess you can call it a disability.
Anyways I have come from a long line to HTC which I can say is way different in rooting then these phones. I root them to begin with to get rid of all the stupid software T-Mobile places in my phone and to normally switch to CM7 which I have found out is giving me problems which I am currently trying to figure out.
So please negative comments and put downs are always accepted it comes with the questions. But I don't want to sound like an ass or anything when I say this because I mean it in the upmost respect to everyone, but isn't this a forum? A community forum?
Someone once had to show you, all I did was ask for the same help. And this whole GSM network ways of doing things is different from my typical Sprint CDMA network that I am used to. Everything was pretty much the same when it came to that.
Again please I AM VERY SORRY truly if I caused any problems. Please don't be upset at me. Thanks.

I don't think anyone is upset with you. We're all here to contribute and help. Have fun with your rooted G2X

sabwjawdjw said:
Okay so I had a G2x and tried rooting it and I think i did something wrong. With all these instructions ramble on about one thing and another hard for me to really understand all the correct steps.
So can I please have someone give me a hand with this? As in a step by step process of everything? This is my second G2X brand new from T-Mobile has the Gingerbread 2.3.3. So if anyone can actually tell me step by step and what files I am going to need so I don't brick this one because 300USD is getting expensive.
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Don't feel bad. I bricked mine upgrading to GB, and I'm still not sure what went wrong. I got it fixed for free by sending it into LG.

sabwjawdjw said:
I am thankful for all the responses. Sorry if I caused grief and headache to anyone. I was finally able to get my phone rooted giving the information that someone provided to me on here. I sent him a PM to personally thank him.
By all means I should probably be *****ed at if I don't follow instructions very well. I have always considered myself a visual learner. If I don't have hands on and able to see it done, it really complicates things for me. I guess you can call it a disability.
Anyways I have come from a long line to HTC which I can say is way different in rooting then these phones. I root them to begin with to get rid of all the stupid software T-Mobile places in my phone and to normally switch to CM7 which I have found out is giving me problems which I am currently trying to figure out.
So please negative comments and put downs are always accepted it comes with the questions. But I don't want to sound like an ass or anything when I say this because I mean it in the upmost respect to everyone, but isn't this a forum? A community forum?
Someone once had to show you, all I did was ask for the same help. And this whole GSM network ways of doing things is different from my typical Sprint CDMA network that I am used to. Everything was pretty much the same when it came to that.
Again please I AM VERY SORRY truly if I caused any problems. Please don't be upset at me. Thanks.
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Do not sweat the whiners. Here is the way I look at it... It is a forum for developers. I can not develop crap, so I try to do my part by being helpful when I can. Everyone here was brand new at one point. Make sure you do your part by reading as much as you can. If you still have questions/issues, send me a PM.

Why does every noob question get followed up with a bunch bullshizz. We were all noobs at one point, I remember when my Huawei ascend scared me. Nothing is worse than bricking your phone and being upset than a bunch of know it all asses being pricks. Is the g2x forum the only one full of d-ckheads? I've never heard so much whining and holier than thou bs. I'm surprised we have any devs, ungrateful bunch of *****es. Wah, nvidia never, wah, everyone else has ics, wah, that noob asked a question, wah, I suck. I love my g2x, it's a typical musclecar, way over powered and finicky as hell. The g2x is not a beginners device, this is for big boys and girls. I wonder what the whiners would do if they owned a ferrari? Newsflash, they break down, a lot! I remember when xda was where you went for help and support, now I come here to be entertained by the ignorance of the know it alls. Go ahead, blast me, I'm a writer for an Android website and I'll make it painful. OK, then, how bout all these new roms and updates? It's like the g2x is reborn. Hey, wait a minute, I thought the g2x was a useless, unsupported piece of ka ka? Frickin morons!
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Well first I am glad you were able to fix the phone however I understand knowledgeable people get frustrated because this phone is simple to root. With a phone that has been out this long there is no reason anyone can not find out what to do on there own.
There are so many YouTube videos and forums like this. You are not the second person to too your phone or to brick it so why create a new post looking for help when you can simply Google it. I know your lazy and expect someone else to do your work for you.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...9l19l0l3l3l0l1535l5020l1.0.3.0.2.2.1.0.1l10l0
See plenty of info on the subject I am sure one of these other people have been helped.
This is why devs are tired of these questions they have been answered over and over. You may find this mean to say but you most likely found this forum by using Google so use it to fix your phone. Stop wasting peoples time by being lazy and use your head.
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The problem is this. Ppl dont know how to research their issue. Also ppl in our generation cant seem to follow directions worth ****. I was the same way. I learned on my g1. Rooted it successful and then bricked my friends. Over the years ive learned alot about computers/phone/cdma flashing. Playing with the big boys. You develop problem solving skills that you can apply outside of this. It truly makes you smarter. So yea. Maybe we are know it all asses.
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