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Kernel source still not available!

HTC has just released the kernel source for the Legend and the Incredible, but they have skipped the Desire ...
http://developer.htc.com/
seems a bit strange to me. Any ideas about the suitable of the Legend vs the Desire?
Regards

I'm not seeing any new posts on http://developer.htc.com.
I guess if something for the Incredible and Legend was posted, it was probably by mistake and has subsequently been removed.
Regards,
Dave

are u behind a proxy?
Droid Incredible by HTC(Verizon) Kernel Source Code 56.0 MB 2010/04/30
Droid Eris MR by HTC (Verizon) Kernel Source Code 56.3 MB 2010/04/30
HTC Legend Kernel Source Code 56.0 MB 2010/04/30
refresh yout page

foxmeister said:
I'm not seeing any new posts on http://developer.htc.com.
I guess if something for the Incredible and Legend was posted, it was probably by mistake and has subsequently been removed.
Regards,
Dave
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They're back up now but no desire source

they was not there a minute ago, they are there now
This is good news, as i cant see them, releasing everything but the Desire's Kernel, It means we will see a Kernel at some point))))

I think that HTC's website must be geo-locating by IP. If I go to their site with a US IP, I can see the additional downloads, but they are still unavailable via my UK IP address.
Regards,
Dave

The kernel might be very similar to the incredible one.

im in the uk and i can see it ok

Something is strange, because the link for the Droid Eris MR by HTC (Verizon) is http://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/desirec_2.6.29_8a03cb9a.tar.bz2.
So why do they call ist ....desirec_2.6.29_8a03cb9a.tar.bz2?

allla said:
Something is strange, because the link for the Droid Eris MR by HTC (Verizon) is http://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/desirec_2.6.29_8a03cb9a.tar.bz2.
So why do they call ist ....desirec_2.6.29_8a03cb9a.tar.bz2?
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It's not strange, the HTC Desire is codenamed Bravo. The Droid Eris is codenamed Desire. Confusing, but not strange.

deovferreira said:
It's not strange, the HTC Desire is codenamed Bravo. The Droid Eris is codenamed Desire. Confusing, but not strange.
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You're right - not confusion, but strange ;-)

JupiterDroid said:
they was not there a minute ago, they are there now
This is good news, as i cant see them, releasing everything but the Desire's Kernel, It means we will see a Kernel at some point))))
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They don't really have a choice, actually, they do have to follow the GPL under which it is licensed.
In fact, if they DID really follow that license correctly, we should have received the sources (or at least a link to the sources) with the device.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License#Terms_and_conditions
The fourth section for version 2 of the license and the seventh section of version 3 require that programs distributed as pre-compiled binaries are accompanied by a copy of the source code, a written offer to distribute the source code via the same mechanism as the pre-compiled binary or the written offer to obtain the source code that you got when you received the pre-compiled binary under the GPL.
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At http://developer.htc.com/ they have released the kernel for Incredible, Droid ERIS and the Legend, after asking HTC about Desire version they have answered with:
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Dear Mr.Gomez Thank you for contacting HTC. Kindly note that as Desire and Legend are both running Android 2.1 "Eclair". Besides that both of them are having almost same specefications, that's why we released only one of them. If you have any other inquiries, don’t hesitate to contact us again. Please note that you can contact us via support line. For further details, please go to http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx , Thank you so much for using HTC products. Respect & Regards, HTC Team http://www.htc.com
So I suppose that we can consider http://member.america.htc.com/download/Rom...3be9c9c.tar.bz2 to be the final kernel for the HTC Desire. :-D
Regards

The same specifications? oO
They don't even have the same CPU, let alone the same chipsets...

I have just posted this to MoDaCo :-D They answer me with this "they have the same specifications" so I suppose that the kernel is the same for both, I mean they use the same source with different configuration (depending on the chipset, cpu, etc).
Regards

The differences from the base (standard linux) 2.6.29 kernel:
Legend: 914 files more than 1.4M bzipped diff file
Incredible: 941 files more than 1.4M bzipped diff file
The differences between both kernels are less than that, 252 files and about 250K bzipped diff file.
Regards,

Mmmh sounds kinda weird..one would think that if for some reason the kernels of Legend and Desire were somehow the same, HTC would have added at least a tiny note on their developer page specifying so...

Legend same specifications as Desire? strange
for what I know Incredible is very close to nexus one and desire

kewell79 said:
At http://developer.htc.com/ they have released the kernel for Incredible, Droid ERIS and the Legend, after asking HTC about Desire version they have answered with:
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Dear Mr.Gomez Thank you for contacting HTC. Kindly note that as Desire and Legend are both running Android 2.1 "Eclair". Besides that both of them are having almost same specefications, that's why we released only one of them. If you have any other inquiries, don’t hesitate to contact us again. Please note that you can contact us via support line. For further details, please go to http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx , Thank you so much for using HTC products. Respect & Regards, HTC Team http://www.htc.com
So I suppose that we can consider http://member.america.htc.com/download/Rom...3be9c9c.tar.bz2 to be the final kernel for the HTC Desire. :-D
Regards
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That is unacceptable and a gross violation of the GPL.
HTC did not release the kernel source because the Desire is rootable and having the kernel would allow us to override their pathetic security (which is, by the way, cracked already).
The bravo board files are NOT in there!

Fully Agreed. So what's the next play ?
Warn GPL-Violations ? FTF ? Google ? (do Google even care ?)

Source code posted!

Well I thru htc an email about source code. Granted its probably just a cookie cutter reply but here's what they wrote to me in reply to my email :
Dear Blair Ginley,
We appreciate your interest in development options for the HTC One S and can provide some information to answer your concerns.
HTC will typically publish http://www.htcdev.com the Kernel open source code for recently released devices as soon as possible. HTC will normally publish this within 90 to 120 days. This time frame is within the requirements of the open source community.
Feel free to reply should you have any further questions. If you feel more comfortable discussing issues by phone, you can contact Technical Support at 1-866-449-8358, 6 am to 1 am EST, 7 days a week.
Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.
To send a reply to this message, please click here.
Sincerely,
Dayton
HTC
Sent from my HTC One S

http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
Sent from my HTC One S

leggo

no source for the US version

So, we will finally get true CM9 and co (AOKP, MIUI, etc)!
It's weird that T-MoUS is MIA, but it's the only black sheep (different model) in the One S pack.

papi5120 said:
no source for the US version
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It's on there.
edit: wrong info, not there.
But can we use the codes from international versions?

This is excellent news.
Thx.

Sorry guys why do we need kernel source codes?
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium

k1llacanon said:
Sorry guys why do we need kernel source codes?
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium
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To make custom kernels that can be over clocked and things like that
Sent from my HTC VLE_U using xda premium

Email them. Stupid HTC not following the rules.

avataranjie said:
Email them. Stupid HTC not following the rules.
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You'll get the same canned response about 90-120 days. Remember US Tmo version was released a little bit after the others.

Great news

eminembdg said:
Well I thru htc an email about source code. Granted its probably just a cookie cutter reply but here's what they wrote to me in reply to my email :
Dear Blair Ginley,
We appreciate your interest in development options for the HTC One S and can provide some information to answer your concerns.
HTC will typically publish http://www.htcdev.com the Kernel open source code for recently released devices as soon as possible. HTC will normally publish this within 90 to 120 days. This time frame is within the requirements of the open source community.
Feel free to reply should you have any further questions. If you feel more comfortable discussing issues by phone, you can contact Technical Support at 1-866-449-8358, 6 am to 1 am EST, 7 days a week.
Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.
To send a reply to this message, please click here.
Sincerely,
Dayton
HTC
Sent from my HTC One S
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Wtf... that's the same bs they sent a couple others but on the one x forums.
I mean I think it word for word the same exact response.
Wow ....
sent from my Droid-X
got a-Dev?
www.android-dev.us

Help me get the kernel source unlocked for CM/other dev related.

Please like my comment on HTC Australia's facebook page. If we harass them enough, hopefully they will cave in.
I can't post links yet so look up HTC Australia, and or liam lambkin (llambkin) on facebook.
-Liam

But, um...
llambkin said:
Please like my comment on HTC Australia's facebook page. If we harass them enough, hopefully they will cave in.
I can't post links yet so look up HTC Australia, and or liam lambkin (llambkin) on facebook.
-Liam
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We have no idea what comment it is that we should Like though...

That's like saying a doctor will only save a life if X amount of people like this photo. It's stupid - no offense. If, and I mean a big if, facebook comments were ever taken into consideration for tech feedback it would be quantity of posts about it that would be taken seriously, not one that's just liked a lot.

Is HTC in the habbit of not releasing kernel source or something? this is my first HTC phone so i wouldn't know but I'd think they are going to release it eventually. don't they really need harassing?

regP said:
Is HTC in the habbit of not releasing kernel source or something? this is my first HTC phone so i wouldn't know but I'd think they are going to release it eventually. don't they really need harassing?
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They typically release it within 90 to 120 days apparently.
Haha, or of they are particularly spiteful they add a day every time someone asks.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

threads like this take me back to the vibrant and g2x days. guess I got spoiled in the 5months I spent in the GS2 forums lol

just liked it

I really wish someone could hack into HTC and get the source code.
Release to source or pay the price, muaahahahaha.

htc jelly bean kernel source info

I emailed HTC's open source department about kernel source and this is the email I gotHTC
to me
Dear Dustin Stoker,
Hey, Dustin, thanks for contacting us about the kernal source for the One XL. In regards to this, getting that phones source code is something we are working on getting up. I know this is something that is being worked on and we don't just want to put up flawed software for the development community to use. So we want it to be as close to perfect and include the patches to previous problems we've run into as well. So, that is why that we don't really have an ETA at this point. I thank you for your patience with us in this and I hope you have a great day!
Hope it comes soon.

same typical
automated email response

Ya I figured that was the case hope it comes soon they gotta comply with linux open source laws if they released it the talented devs on hear could probably fix it before them lol

xstokerx said:
Ya I figured that was the case hope it comes soon they gotta comply with linux open source laws if they released it the talented devs on hear could probably fix it before them lol
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soon as in month and month and month from now

CheesyNutz said:
soon as in month and month and month from now
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Yep usually how it is

xstokerx said:
I emailed HTC's open source department about kernel source and this is the email I gotHTC
to me
Dear Dustin Stoker,
Hey, Dustin, thanks for contacting us about the kernal source for the One XL. In regards to this, getting that phones source code is something we are working on getting up. I know this is something that is being worked on and we don't just want to put up flawed software for the development community to use. So we want it to be as close to perfect and include the patches to previous problems we've run into as well. So, that is why that we don't really have an ETA at this point. I thank you for your patience with us in this and I hope you have a great day!
Hope it comes soon.
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Um, if this is an official response from HTC, they have horrible spelling, grammar and sentence formation.
It also seems highly unlikely that a paid developer spelled "kernel" wrong.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Here's HTC's standard response:
Dear $YOUR_NAME
Thank you for contacting HTC regarding Kernel Source code. I know that this code is important to the development community and I will be happy to assist you with the correct information regarding this.
HTC is committed to assisting customers in getting kernel source code for HTC devices. We will release source code in accordance with any applicable open source license terms. We are working to release appropriate kernel code bases as soon as possible after device launch but we cannot guarantee the exact time frame. Other source codes, which are not required to be disclosed by the open source license terms, unfortunately cannot be disclosed by HTC as they may be proprietary to HTC or its licensor.
Please keep an eye on http://developer.htc.com for more information. I hope you enjoy the rest of your week, $YOUR_NAME.
If this answers your comment or question, please click here to complete the process.
To submit another comment, please click here.
Sincerely,
The HTCDev Team
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[Q] Why won't HTC release the kernel sources for the HTC One E8 Dual SIM?

So, I bought myself an HTC One E8 (M8sd) because that is what my operator provides for that plan that I use.
I was searching everywhere but it seems that HTC hasn't even released the sources for this device, which is strange considering the fact that HTC is known to be developer friendly in the past.
So, why would they not release kernel sources for this device? How can we request them for kernel sources?

I'm pretty sure you can find kernel sources at htcdev.com

Nope. Not for HTC One E8.. Not yet at least. Do they release sources for all their devices?

Oh, I forgot. It's called M8 Ace on that website

Oh.. So the sources are available? Can we compile AOSPs using these?

What surprises me is that there is hardly any action for this phone till now. I found it better than M8 for many reasons. It is also significantly cheaper with the same hardware...

So I wrote to HTC asking about the sources and got this reply:
Thank you for contacting HTC support.
As per your email, we understand that you want a kernel sources for HTC One E8.
We value the importance of your concern.
We would like to inform you that providing the source code totally depends upon our developer, as and when the source code for HTC One E8 is available, it will be updated on our developer website. However, your feedback is appreciated.
We value your time and patience.
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What makes HTC any better than manufacturers like Xiaomi in this regard? This is as much of a violation as them, isn't it? This is the most nothing reply anyone could have given.

buggerman said:
So I wrote to HTC asking about the sources and got this reply:
What makes HTC any better than manufacturers like Xiaomi in this regard? This is as much of a violation as them, isn't it? This is the most nothing reply anyone could have
given.
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OH SHI~
I just bought a proprietary brick, because there is no opensource firmware in the web.