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cognition perception 8

Hello, I had a question about flashing a new rom . I wanted to update my cognition from 2.3.6b to the latest one but someone told me to do perception build 8. So I downloaded both of them and I was also told to rom to stock before doing it. My question is if I do flash to stock wouldn't I have to really root my phone and get froyo back on it? Before flashing either one of these and which one do u recommend for the captivate?
thank you

the rom include froyo, yes you would have to root again

I normally do a master clear in Odin after I flash stock so you'll need to root it again.
The best option is to copy your update zip file ( from CWM ) to you comp or external card before you flash to stock and then put it back after you flash to stock. Three button recovery combo, reinstall packages and you are good to go to flash your new rom.

My update.zip is only 1.7mb is that right? So flash to stock get cwm and the 3 button recovery thing that's not download mode is it?
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I'm having a hard time comprehending posts 1 & 2, but here we go:
It is strongly recommended you flash back to stock JF6 before flashing a new ROM. Cognition and Perception are both FroYo ROMs...so you don't "get it back", whatever that means.
If you currently have ROM Manager installed on your phone, open up the app and select "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery". This should invoke a small download of a file named "update.zip" that gets stored at the root of your /sdcard. The update.zip file is ClockworkMod Recovery. When you are preparing to flash a new rom, move that update.zip (ClockworkMod Recovery) OFF of your phone, onto your computer. Use Odin to flash back to stock. Once you're back in stock JF6, you want to move the update.zip back to your phone as well as Perception/Cognition. Now all you need to do is boot into Android Recovery and select "reinstall packages" until you are in ClockworkMod Recovery, and flash away.
If you DON'T save off the update.zip which is CWM, you will need to do a root after you've flashed to stock JF6. You need to root so that you can then download ROM Manager from the market, and select "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery", and then follow ROM flashing procedures.
I'm not going to say Cognition is better than Perception or vice versa. They are both great, and designgears has said he will continue to work on both. You can read through the respective threads and generate your own opinion on what you should flash.

Thank you norcal! That was exactly what I needed to know
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[Q] ROM Manager bricking phones...?

Could ROM Manager fake Flash Clockworkmod recovery be responsible for bricking phones on LG update? Let me explain what I mean - Lots of people, like myself, installed ROM Manager and its CWM because we did not know it's not real Flash. Then We switched to "real" CWM. Now the question is when we do normal stock recovery in order to get official GB update, does this CWM of ROM manager still remains in the phone? If so, could it be that it contributed to the troubles updating through LG tool? How can I make sure I removed it from the phone?
Thanks!

Yes. Many people have confirmed that not having the stock recovery on the device is a road to Bricksville. Even though you are fake flashed there is code inserted somewhere to redirect to the fake flash, and the recovery images for flash (normally installed every boot) have been deleted or renamed. You should flash stock recovery with NVFlasher to make sure you are back at a clean stock recovery before using the LG Update tool.

Thanks but what I mean is that AFTER I realized it's fake flash I installed "real" CWM. So when I do stock on this "real", does CWM rom manager still remains in the phone and how can I remove it?

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so I am a little confused I used CWM to make a backup before I did anything to my phone. And I was already on the 2.3.3 lg update. So if I restore that I should be back to stock and CWM should still be there right? But lets say LG comes out with another update (Doubtful) and I want to use it I should use the NVflash to reture the phone to stock? if I use NVflash will that put me back on froyo 2.2.2 or GB 2.3.3?
Also I used rom manager to make a backup of the rom I was on which was the stock rooted so is that fake or what the hell is fake? is it the first option in rom manager the CWM recovery? is it the same if I use CWM stock recovery? in cwn itself? Oh I am so confused someone help me

ROM Manager cannot flash directly to the phone so it "fake flashes" CWM recovery. It only installs a few files to the system so that when you run recovery the stock recovery runs an "upate" and that launches CWM recovery from your SD card. Just return the phone to GB 2.3.3 stock and be happy with it. If you restore using CWM it will remain there, so you should use NVFlash to restore stock recovery also.

jboxer said:
ROM Manager cannot flash directly to the phone so it "fake flashes" CWM recovery. It only installs a few files to the system so that when you run recovery the stock recovery runs an "upate" and that launches CWM recovery from your SD card. Just return the phone to GB 2.3.3 stock and be happy with it. If you restore using CWM it will remain there, so you should use NVFlash to restore stock recovery also.
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I have BOTH - CWM AND CWM through the ROM Manager. So if use NV Flash to go to stock, is the CWM from ROM manager still in the phone and how can I remove it?
Thanks!

so what I am getting out of this is rom manager is crap and dont use it. If you just use CWM to do your flashing and backups and recoverys you should be ok.
Charlie

mojorisin7178 said:
so what I am getting out of this is rom manager is crap and dont use it. If you just use CWM to do your flashing and backups and recoverys you should be ok.
Charlie
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Thanks but my questions are:
1. If I go to stock using NV Flasher, is ROM Manager's CWM still going to be in the phone, since I have BOTH?
2. Can it BRICK my phone if I do the LG update then?
3. How can I make sure I removed BOTH - NV Flash CWM AND ROM Manager CWM?

[Q] Problems with ClockWork Samsung Infuse

I tried putting clockwork recovery onto my Samsung Infuse. I Installed it through a ROM Manager and now everytime i go into the ROM manager and select it to boot into recovery it boots into android system recovery. I cannot get to the Modified Recovery needed to install a cutom ROM.
What do i need to do to get CWM to work?

Flash the community kernel via ODIN
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VetteZ06 said:
I tried putting clockwork recovery onto my Samsung Infuse. I Installed it through a ROM Manager and now everytime i go into the ROM manager and select it to boot into recovery it boots into android system recovery. I cannot get to the Modified Recovery needed to install a cutom ROM.
What do i need to do to get CWM to work?
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Option 1:
1.-Download Sgs Kernel installer
2.- Download a Kernel with modified cwm included ( here one choice: http://www.multiupload.com/1E3AWIQYAA <--If you are on Froyo;
http://www.multiupload.com/6ZVYU3F106<-- If you are on Gingerbread) The links ARE NOT mine are gtgx.
3.-Put the kernel in your sd card.
4.-Open sgs kernel flasher and select the kernel.
It will reboot and convert your data to ext4 and also give you modified red cmw ready to install custom roms. It will take about 5 minutes be patient.
Option 2:
1.- Download the Defuse 1.5 one click kernel from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1331381 (link NOT mine)
2.- Put your phone into download mode
3.- Run the file you downloaded it will do the work for you.

Find Odin preset with 3e and root. Follow directions and run odin properly with phone in download mode (explained in odin post). After that you will be rooted with modded 3e recovery. Then you can download rom manager when the phone reboots and flash for galaxy i9000, reboot into recovery and reinstall packages. You should be able to reinstall packages now since odin set up your recovery. It sounds like you aren't able to put the modded recovery in the system/bin folder; same thing happened to me. I had root, but could not modify the recovery file in system/bin. Odin is a charm, if I had the money I would donate to the guy who made it, unfortunately I don't at the moment. Odin says phone should show as com## yet mine showed as com0 and still worked. Probably depends on which USB port you use. Odin takes about 10 minutes to flash your phone but it will be worth it when you are done. I was skeptical because of the steps but it is very easy, once you get your phone into download mode its a breeze. PLEASE HAVE A FULL CHARGE WHEN YOU DO ANY FLASHING. If your phone dies you can have serious problems during the flash.

thank you all, I am going to try these once I get my internet restored.... this is kinda agony since my t1 line died....
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Just an update, Forced it to work with SGS kernel, it put up a huge fight tho... after CWM was installed i got GingerReal 2.3.5 on there. I iz happeh

[Q] Rooting ICS 4.0.3 with recovery 3e?

Hello, i have recently installed the leaked ver of ICS for the skyrocket SGH-I727, unfortunately every root guide pertains to having CWM installed and working? (idk how without root, since you can't boot into CWM recovery without su) or the built in recovery that samsung comes with. When i reach the recovery mode the version is 3e, and i only have my external sd card available, i cannot browse anything within my internal sd card, and also i cannot install the superuser package because it fails the signature check, which i am seeing this common with recovery 3e since nothing will pass the signature check. How then am i supposed to either revert back to recovery 2e or root my device another way? I am pretty sure the zergrush method will not work with ICS.
Thank you.

You have to Odin cwm.

The above is correct you have to flash cwm through Odin
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Do it this way.....
skyrocket123 said:
Hello, i have recently installed the leaked ver of ICS for the skyrocket SGH-I727, unfortunately every root guide pertains to having CWM installed and working? (idk how without root, since you can't boot into CWM recovery without su) or the built in recovery that samsung comes with. When i reach the recovery mode the version is 3e, and i only have my external sd card available, i cannot browse anything within my internal sd card, and also i cannot install the superuser package because it fails the signature check, which i am seeing this common with recovery 3e since nothing will pass the signature check. How then am i supposed to either revert back to recovery 2e or root my device another way? I am pretty sure the zergrush method will not work with ICS.
Thank you.
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Go to this link (click on the word) and you will get the CWM that you will have to flash through ODIN and then below you will also find the Su files that you will have to flash through CWM to get a complete root on the phone.
After you are done with the root and everything I recommend that you use ODIN to flash CWM Touch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566613... I guess you can flash it to start with as well but since i did the CWM follwed by Su and then after getting root and going on a custom ROM i flashed the Touch I am telling you to do the same.. Your call

nvm

[Q] P6800 ROM Questions

Recently I hard-bricked my Tab whilst installing a Rom on it (Brick Bug). Now I have a replacement, and it's about time I replaced the HC with something else.
I plan to use the 'Singha ROM ICS P6800DXLP7' ROM and ' Dedraks' GT-P6800' kernel. I'm guessing installation for both is via CWM, but that is how I bricked my tab last time. How can I work around this as to not brick it again? Odin? Which do I install first? Any guidance would really be appreciated!
Thanks

Which cwm you using that cause it to brick?
Share some detail procedure...wipe on stock rom, custom rom, kernel...etc which end with brick?
For now I believe safe atm..
- From stock ICS
- Root with this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849235
- Install cwm using Mobile Odin
- Boot to cwm recovery
- Flash custom rom and custom kernel
- Reboot recovery NOT reboot system.
- Full wipe and fix permission
- Reboot system to home screen
That what I always do

Here's what works for me
first, d/l CWM to SD card.
then power down.
reboot into download mode ,PC Odin is my install of choice for the roms...
then power down again after the new rom installs and re-boots
re-boot into recovery and choose install zip from SD and choose CWM (which is a temporary install)
dont wipe anything, just choose to install zip and then choose your new kernel.
After kernel (a safe one) installs, then re-boot system.
Ive never bricked this tab or my GN7000 Note
good luck

correct me if im wrong, but as long as you do not factory reset in stock ics recovery you are okay. Right?

Some Note GT 7000 guys reported that they bricked their phablets by copping large files (being on ICS). If this doesn't affect our P6800s, then you are not wrong.
I had installed LQ2 without wiping anything. But had many Screen Offs and Shut Downs, so I considered to risk the clean install.
Did it with Mobile Odin Pro, but first
Ensured that I already have CWM 6.0.0.1
Flashed Dedraks Kernel.
In Mobile Odin chosen "open file..." and then the particular md5 file,
BUT EXCLUDED:
1. Kernel
2. Recovery
Then I selected "wipe" and "clean", crossed my fingers and everything went OK.
Not quite everything, because I lost root, although I am pretty sure that I did not unselect "everroot'.
It was not a big issue. Installed again "root.zip" via CWM recovery.
Its about a week since then and I have nothing to complain.

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Thanks for the responses guys.
Does this sound safe?:
Flash LQ2 via PC Odin
Root from universal recovery
Flash CWM 6.0.11 via PC Odin
Flash Dedraks Kernel via CWM
Then root again if needed.
Thanks

rumpypumpy said:
Thanks for the responses guys.
Does this sound safe?:
Flash LQ2 via PC Odin
Root from universal recovery
Flash CWM 6.0.11 via PC Odin
Flash Dedraks Kernel via CWM
Then root again if needed.
Thanks
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Yeah, with these steps you should be safe.
Happy flashing