I am considering buying the AT&T One X from Amazon Wireless at 550.00 and then using it with my TMobile prepaid no contract services.
1) Is this even possible? How would I be able to use AT&T's phone on Tmobile? I know all about GSM compatibility, but once I have the phone in my hands, how do I go about using it on TMobile?
2) I am deciding to get either this One X or the unlocked 400$ Nexus. Which one would you all go for? I would prefer stock ICS, but the One X has upgraded hardware. I use my phone for a lot of emailing, texting and browsing. The One X's camera features would also come in handy when hanging out with my newborn.
mozahsuf said:
I am considering buying the AT&T One X from Amazon Wireless at 550.00 and then using it with my TMobile prepaid no contract services.
1) Is this even possible? How would I be able to use AT&T's phone on Tmobile? I know all about GSM compatibility, but once I have the phone in my hands, how do I go about using it on TMobile?
2) I am deciding to get either this One X or the unlocked 400$ Nexus. Which one would you all go for? I would prefer stock ICS, but the One X has upgraded hardware. I use my phone for a lot of emailing, texting and browsing. The One X's camera features would also come in handy when hanging out with my newborn.
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for your purposes a Gnex makes more sense. It's $150 cheaper and able to fully utilize T-Mobile's network speed. a HOX once it gets sim unlocked will only do EDGE speed on T-Mobile's network.
Thanks.
You mean I wouldn't be able to get LTE, right? I knew that but assumed I would get standard TMobile speeds, but now your post makes me think the One X wouldn't operate at the same or better speed of the GNex or a standard Tmobile smartphone. Is that true? If so, why?
And by the way, if the One X will underperform then is it best to just choose between a Nexus and One S?
Besides LTE and the screen, what is the difference between the X and the S? (US versions)
T-Mobile doesn't even have an LTE network, and has no plans to deploy one until 2013.
The AT&T version One X does not support the 3G band used by T-Mobile (1700/2100 MHz). So it would only get voice and EDGE data.
The One X would need to be SIM unlocked in order to use it on T-Mob. There are paid services that can get you the SIM unlock code. The One X seems harder for these types of vendors to unlock than other phones. Most can't do it, but there is at least one online service that can. Just search around this forum, and you'll find a discussion about it. Similar situation, with T-Mob customers looking to use the One X.
Or you can buy it pre-unlocked from certain vendors. Negri Electronics has it unlocked for $590.
Essentially the one S is the X without lte and not quite as nice a screen imho a better phone than the gnex. However the gnex is more flexible at switching carriers since it has pentaband.
So due to the difficulties with unlocking the one x and the possibility that the One x would be able to only use Edge speeds, is it wise to just drop plans to buy an X and focus on the S or the GNex?
gunnyman, why do you think the S is a better phone overall than the gnex? I plan on sticking with Tmobile's dirt cheap prepaid plans for awhile, so switching carriers won't be an issue (i hope so).
You could also get One S, which is made for T-Mobile network...the One is an awesome phone...much better than nexus but does cost more..keep in mind the one x requires a micro similar card like the iPhone..don't know if T-Mobile has that...if u do have micro similar then u still only get 2g speeds...higher on wifi...u could always buy phone and get service w att without contract and get Japan+ or lte depending on your area...unless u are not in us..
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So due to the difficulties with unlocking the one x and the possibility that the One x would be able to only use Edge speeds, is it wise to just drop plans to buy an X and focus on the S or the GNex?
gunnyman, why do you think the S is a better phone overall than the gnex? I plan on sticking with Tmobile's dirt cheap prepaid plans for awhile, so switching carriers won't be an issue (i hope so).
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That's up to you ultimately if you want to decide against the one x because of data speeds. Its really your preference, say if you are on wifi majority of the day and don't use data while you're out and about then edge speeds would not be too bothersome to you. The one s is better than the gnex because of its better proccessor, and better camera, but the one s has a smaller lower resolution screen(which is a turnoff for me). But really its all preference. You need to do some more research on your own to get a better idea of what you are buying and really play with all the devices to make a decision.
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That's up to you ultimately if you want to decide against the one x because of data speeds. Its really your preference, say if you are on wifi majority of the day and don't use data while you're out and about then edge speeds would not be too bothersome to you. The one s is better than the gnex because of its better proccessor, and better camera, but the one s has a smaller lower resolution screen(which is a turnoff for me). But really its all preference. You need to do some more research on your own to get a better idea of what you are buying and really play with all the devices to make a decision.
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let's assume the data speeds were the same for the X and the S, what puts one above the other? Is it only the screen? (ignoring--for me--inconsequential things like dimensions, width, weight, etc)
mozahsuf said:
So due to the difficulties with unlocking the one x and the possibility that the One x would be able to only use Edge speeds, is it wise to just drop plans to buy an X and focus on the S or the GNex?
gunnyman, why do you think the S is a better phone overall than the gnex? I plan on sticking with Tmobile's dirt cheap prepaid plans for awhile, so switching carriers won't be an issue (i hope so).
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Just to clarify, it's not a 'possibility' that the X can't use T-Mo's 3G & HSPA+, it's hard fact. The X does not possess the supported radio bands - locked or unlocked - to physically operate on the T-Mo networks post-EDGE. Buying a One X and planning to use it for T-Mo is probably not going to be satisfying and really may prove quite useless since the EDGE network (the only network the x could potentially use) is not going to serve much of today's data needs. aside fro mail syncing in the background, EDGE is no longer practical to handle the demands of most mobile data uses, such as streaming video/music, online gaming, downloading movies, music, and podcasts, etc. In the event that you are not using these types of services and woudl be fine with the outdated speeds of the EDGE network, you may nto really find a phone like the One X, S or GNex to be necessary.
Assuming you will use these services, you will be FAR better served with a GNex or One S. The S is allegedly an amazing phone, incredibly similar to the X in terms of software, just with a smaller screen and lack of LTE (and the inclusion of the radio/bands needed to access T-Mo's HSPA+ network). I've not used a Gnex, and with my experiences ont eh One X, I would say try the One S out. I think you will be very pleased.
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let's assume the data speeds were the same for the X and the S, what puts one above the other? Is it only the screen? (ignoring--for me--inconsequential things like dimensions, width, weight, etc)
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Yes in my opinion the X's screen puts it above the S. Otherwise they are identical.
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let's assume the data speeds were the same for the X and the S, what puts one above the other? Is it only the screen? (ignoring--for me--inconsequential things like dimensions, width, weight, etc)
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The screen is substantially better on the X, but the while phone is much larger, too. If you dont want a huge phone, then maybe that would steer you to the S. For me, the size of the X is a plus. The phone's finishes are different, with the S being a special type of formed aluminum case and the X being a matte finished polymer. These are the principle differences. The other big one being LTE for the X. Technically the processors in each phone are a different model number, though they are actually identical, just with the addition of LTE on the X's chip. You are asking for an answer assuming data speeds are equal, which they may be at times on the LTE vs HSPA+. Overall, though, the LTE is goign to simply be better for data. It also provides a uniquely improved cell signal in urban areas due to the LTE band (700-749Mhz on ATT) being a low frequency. think FM radio vs AM radio: AM is longer frequency and good for distance, and FM is lower and penetrates buildings and wall better and provides a higher quality of sound (data). The LTE radio also will drop back to HSPA+ when not in an LTE area, so you are still getting the HSPA signal capabilities, as well. for me LTE is a HUGE benefit.
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The screen is substantially better on the X, but the while phone is much larger, too. If you dont want a huge phone, then maybe that would steer you to the S. For me, the size of the X is a plus. The phone's finishes are different, with the S being a special type of formed aluminum case and the X being a matte finished polymer. These are the principle differences. The other big one being LTE for the X. Technically the processors in each phone are a different model number, though they are actually identical, just with the addition of LTE on the X's chip. You are asking for an answer assuming data speeds are equal, which they may be at times on the LTE vs HSPA+. Overall, though, the LTE is goign to simply be better for data. It also provides a uniquely improved cell signal in urban areas due to the LTE band (700-749Mhz on ATT) being a low frequency. think FM radio vs AM radio: AM is longer frequency and good for distance, and FM is lower and penetrates buildings and wall better and provides a higher quality of sound (data). The LTE radio also will drop back to HSPA+ when not in an LTE area, so you are still getting the HSPA signal capabilities, as well. for me LTE is a HUGE benefit.
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But he is talking about using the one x in tmo, which makes LTE redundant.
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But he is talking about using the one x in tmo, which makes LTE redundant.
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My comment briefly mentionthat LTE is faster, but I didn't go into data speeds,just physical differences in the phone. And if you want to categorically eliminate LTE from the discussion, just eliminate the whole conversation because right nowthe X doesn't even work on tmo. I was just answering what was asked aas thoroughly as possible.
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Its very annoying that phone models are locked into specific carriers (hope this changes in the future) but im currently on AT&T, which in my area has the best overall signal coverage. Can this phone be put on the ATT network?
Is this phone a good one? My roommate just got the Incredible 2, and im liking the Thunderbolt, but thinking i need to jump on the Dual core market. I currently have a Touch pro 2, which is ok, but SLOW.
Also, what features does this phone have? HTC's own site seems selective on what they post on their specs (they tend to leave out common features on some phones)
Things I like on the thunderbolt spec sheet are..
Dual mics with noise cancellation, Compass sensor, G-Sensor, Proximity sensor (not sure what this is used for), Light sensor, 3.5mm audio jack, MicroUSB, FM radio. (i also like the kick stand)
The G-Sensor i think is pretty standard these days, tho not sure what they mean by the Compass sensor, id be great if it actually had a compass in it.
But this phone doesn't list ANY special features on HTC site.
Thanks in advance.
The Bell model gets At&t bands
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The Bell model gets At&t bands
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the What model?
Lyian said:
the What model?
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Bell is a Canadian phone company (pretty sure) and has the same bands as ATT so their phones are compatible. If you're gonna jump onto the dual-core wagon, check out the SGS2 phones (i'm pretty sure ATT has one coming to them soon if not already...) Then you wont need to unlock or worry about compatibility
The sensation 4g will work on att, but you won't get 3g data.
Of the specs you listed regarding the Thunderbolt, the sensation 4g has all those features, minus a kickstand.
Also, the proximity sensor is used to detect close or far objects. An example of it in use is when you put your ear up to the phone during a call, and the screen automatically turns off, then turns back on when you move away from it.
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Don't try to get the tmobile version. You won't get anything above 2g.
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The Bell (Canadian) model (Z710A) will work on AT&T 3G. The T-Mobile or European versions will work on AT&T, but they will only connect with EDGE data speeds, not 3G.
I'm not overly concerned about data really, unless i'm forced to pay for it. The Touch Pro 2 i have now i bought unlocked so i didn't have to pay for data.
Also, the proximity sensor is used to detect close or far objects. An example of it in use is when you put your ear up to the phone during a call, and the screen automatically turns off, then turns back on when you move away from it.
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I thought the light sensor did that? My TP2 does that, but doesn't mention a prox. sensor.
The Bell model gets 3G bands but is locked at the moment. It should be unlocked next week:
http://negrielectronics.com/htc-z710a-sensation-850-1900-3g.html
the t-Mo and Euro versions work but only allow 2G
You shouldn't have a required data plan if you pay cash for the phone.
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The Bell model gets 3G bands but is locked at the moment. It should be unlocked next week:
http://negrielectronics.com/htc-z710a-sensation-850-1900-3g.html
the t-Mo and Euro versions work but only allow 2G
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Eww.. I paied that much for my TP2, i cant really afford that again... i might be stuck with a contract Which id bet i couldnt get this.. this sucks lol.
Hows the speaker on this phone? My TP2 has dual speaker and has pretty good quality (also has a handy mic mute on the back). It also uses the sensor and switch's it to speaker when i flip the phone over (lying on the screen) Can this phone, or others do that or is that a TP2 specific thing?
Well, nobody around here offers this phone.. Which sucks. Ive been watching reviews on both This and the SGS2. While the SGS2 looks like a nice phone, and seems to be pretty comparable, i like how the Sensation looks alitlte more. The button placement, and the more 'roundness of it is more to my taste than then square 'iphone-iks' looking SGS2. Hell id proly be willing to start using a data plan if i could get this phone on att. (tmobile isnt in my area, if they are their coverage isnt good.)
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Eww.. I paied that much for my TP2, i cant really afford that again... i might be stuck with a contract Which id bet i couldnt get this.. this sucks lol.
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$550CAD straight from Bell Canada, which won't really help you much if you don't live in Canada or near the border. Once they're carrier unlocked and have custom ROMS I'll drive up and pick up a Bell model to use on AT&T, can't wait
ok.. i was wrong.. T-mobile is apparently in my area. I have no personal experiences with them however and none of my friends use them, so not sure how well they work in my area. Its food for thought tho.
Where are you located?
Chances are you aren't in a 3G coverage area which is good news because you can skip out on paying through the nose for a data plan... just opt for the 200MB no overage "unlimited" throttle point data plan and you're good to go. Voice coverage is probably still a concern but if it's just bad at your house T-Mobile has WiFi calling which uses your WiFi network to place and receive calls and texts
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Where are you located?
Chances are you aren't in a 3G coverage area which is good news because you can skip out on paying through the nose for a data plan... just opt for the 200MB no overage "unlimited" throttle point data plan and you're good to go. Voice coverage is probably still a concern but if it's just bad at your house T-Mobile has WiFi calling which uses your WiFi network to place and receive calls and texts
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im around IU campus in Indiana. Their map shows 'average' coverage around town, but i know how exaggerated/inaccurate those maps can be.
As far as the data, from what ive seen, it includes up to 4g
Unlimited high-speed data access (first 200 MB at up to 4G speeds on capable devices)
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You are correct, 3g isn't in this area, let alone 4g (and from what i've told, nobody except Verizon has 'true 4g' anyway)
I dono, i guess im just use to ATT lol. Still, even with a new contract its 200 bucks upfront, which i cant afford atm. Still, im kinda drooling over this phone lol. Im over WinMo
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Im over WinMo
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about time.
If there are wal-marts in your part of the country, I hear they have it for $148.88
lol, yea, otherside of town has one, but blah buying one from wal-mart. Somehow i dont trust them to set things up correctly. Transferring my number and whatnot. It will take a month or two for me to have the money in any event.
i kinda hate that every place has different deals. T-mobile itslef has a higher upfront cost, ($250) but a lower monthly charge (59.99) but Newegg has a lower upfront ($150) but a higher monthly (69.99). The monthly cost seems to differ in the data.. Tmoble charing 10, newegg 20.
Bah!
@ Lyian Keep an eye out on the tmobile website. Just last Wed/Thurs (for lilke 24 hours) they were selling the Sensation for free with new contracts/new lines of service.
Keep an eye out tmo does that all the time.
If anyone wants to know I have a Sensation from T-mobile in Puerto Rico and I noticed that it says in the box that it works on 1700, 1900 and 2100 frequencies for data which means it can work on AT&T.
I'll try to unblock it later and see if it really works.
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Hows the speaker on this phone? My TP2 has dual speaker and has pretty good quality (also has a handy mic mute on the back). It also uses the sensor and switch's it to speaker when i flip the phone over (lying on the screen) Can this phone, or others do that or is that a TP2 specific thing?
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The speaker isn't that good for most apps. But for certain apps (like Google Music) it's really loud. I don't know why. Most people have overcome this problem by using the Equalizer app or Volume+ though. And yes, it can do that.
I painfully wrote a very long review with videos and pictures of the Galaxy S II Skyrocket. Just thought I'd share it with you guys.
http://briefmobile.com/review-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-att
Overall, I think it's a very solid phone. I'm sure there are plenty of users out there wondering: "Should I buy the Skyrocket?" I'm not sure I answer that unanswerable question in my review, but hopefully it clears things up for anyone who hasn't made up their mind.
One of the main points, that I stress in the conclusion is that AT&T forecasted 170 million covered with LTE by the end of 2012. And, Advanced coming in 2013. If you're committing to two years with a device, don't necessarily go with the SGS2 I777 because LTE doesn't cover your area. I think that's a really valid point. Although the Exynos model is more powerful, LTE is arguably more important to most people.
Thoughts? Everyone happy with the device? Unhappy? Anything you want me to check on?
The website is down! But the Google Cache version is up.
There have been constant reports of network issues. This is on AT&T's side of things, not the device itself. It seems that the towers are not properly recognizing the device (be it on LTE, HSPA+, etc.) and dropping signal. There is a temporary APN fix in the development fourm. Multiple users have called into AT&T to tell them about it--- I would advise others to do the same so that they know this is a widespread issue.
Other than that, this is a great phone.
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The website is down! But the Google Cache version is up.
There have been constant reports of network issues. This is on AT&T's side of things, not the device itself. It seems that the towers are not properly recognizing the device (be it on LTE, HSPA+, etc.) and dropping signal. There is a temporary APN fix in the development fourm. Multiple users have called into AT&T to tell them about it--- I would advise others to do the same so that they know this is a widespread issue.
Other than that, this is a great phone.
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Interesting. I haven't experienced any network issues. Then again, I've been cold swapping SIMs and changing APNs on a daily basis between my review unit SIM and personal SIM.
I wonder why the website was down for you. Looks up now. Hopefully no more downtime.
Haven't had any issues. Have root working and just installed the first (of many) deoxed stock rom...... Needs a touch of Alien though, LOL. Glad to see ya. Thinking about a new phone-task? Hope they don't drop a samsung phone in 29 days that is better but so far this phone seems solid. I think it has a lot of potential. Granted the exynos isn'tin it but the snapdragon3 oc'd a little to 1.7ish....I think this phone will be awesome even moreso when there are more LTE areas.
Not to mention NFC support and ICS confirmed.
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Interesting. I haven't experienced any network issues. Then again, I've been cold swapping SIMs and changing APNs on a daily basis between my review unit SIM and personal SIM.
I wonder why the website was down for you. Looks up now. Hopefully no more downtime.
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Yay, its back up!
Here is the thread with users reporting the issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339122
Great revue, congratulation. I think it's the best revue in I read on this phone, well written, well documented and technically savy enough.
Thank you very much for your hard work
I was going to get a skyrocket until I researched the differences between it and i777. The LTE is only so much of a positive, especially since you should use wifi whenever you can. Some guy on another thread used 6gb over LTE in a week, which is enough to get you throttled. Someone commented that you can use 2gb over LTE in 20 minutes. For the most part, LTE just means things occur a little faster. I compared Pandora's loading time and some other things between the two and there was only a minor (and sometimes non-existent) difference. The LTE is a plus, but a relatively small one (especially if you don't want to get throttled).
On the plus side, the i777 comes out far ahead. The processor difference is more than just a higher-quality processor. The difference is so great that the skyrocket's processor has to be set to 1.5 ghz just to match the speed and performance of the i777's 1.2 ghz. That means you won't be able to overclock the skyrocket as much because you are starting higher. In addition, the GPU on the skyrocket is quite inferior. The result is a choppy experience. I compared the two and saw this time and time again. In addition, the resolution is worse on the skyrocket (same pixels but bigger screen). This is stuff people will notice and use on a daily basis, much more often than LTE. Also, there is not going to be nearly as much dev work on the skyrocket.
Really, there is one small advantage of the skyrocket (LTE) and a lot of big ones for the i777.
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On the plus side, the i777 comes out far ahead. The processor difference is more than just a higher-quality processor. The difference is so great that the skyrocket's processor has to be set to 1.5 ghz just to match the speed and performance of the i777's 1.2 ghz. That means you won't be able to overclock the skyrocket as much because you are starting higher. In addition, the GPU on the skyrocket is quite inferior. The result is a choppy experience. I compared the two and saw this time and time again. In addition, the resolution is worse on the skyrocket (same pixels but bigger screen). This is stuff people will notice and use on a daily basis, much more often than LTE. Also, there is not going to be nearly as much dev work on the skyrocket.
Really, there is one small advantage of the skyrocket (LTE) and a lot of big ones for the i777.
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Have you used (owned) the phone for a day or more? I haven't experienced any lag in day to day use at all. Gaming has not been a problem, although I cannot compare it to the SGS2 since I did not own it. The HSPA+ network is actually a lot better on this phone than my previous Infuse and other phones were. So even if you are not in an LTE area, it could be worth it, especially if you plan on keeping it for two years as LTE becomes more widely available.
If you used the phone in-store that could explain things. After I got rid of the bloatware and cleaned up some routine things (like I do on every phone / computer once purchased) the in-store "lagness" disappeared completely. As far as the "exynos vs snapdragon" debate --- it is still a dual core phone. Most phones can't claim that. While Exynos may be better on sheet, it isn't compatible (yet) with LTE. Given that the day to day experiences are the same (roughly benchmark the same as well), I will put this as a positive for the snapdragon.
Coming from the SGS2 it might not be worth the upgrade (since it just released a month ago). But if anyone is coming from other phones I would recommend this over the SGS2 for the reasons I stated.
Dumb question -- If I go get this from AT&T, am I going to see additional monthly charges due to my "upgrading" to LTE or is my contract the same? If so, say I sell my SGSII and buy the Skyrocket off the secondary market -- Would I get LTE in the areas available with my normal contract?
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Dumb question -- If I go get this from AT&T, am I going to see additional monthly charges due to my "upgrading" to LTE or is my contract the same? If so, say I sell my SGSII and buy the Skyrocket off the secondary market -- Would I get LTE in the areas available with my normal contract?
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No you won't see any additional charges. You do have to upgrade (exchange for 4G) your sim card though.
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I was going to get a skyrocket until I researched the differences between it and i777. The LTE is only so much of a positive, especially since you should use wifi whenever you can. Some guy on another thread used 6gb over LTE in a week, which is enough to get you throttled. Someone commented that you can use 2gb over LTE in 20 minutes. For the most part, LTE just means things occur a little faster. I compared Pandora's loading time and some other things between the two and there was only a minor (and sometimes non-existent) difference. The LTE is a plus, but a relatively small one (especially if you don't want to get throttled).
On the plus side, the i777 comes out far ahead. The processor difference is more than just a higher-quality processor. The difference is so great that the skyrocket's processor has to be set to 1.5 ghz just to match the speed and performance of the i777's 1.2 ghz. That means you won't be able to overclock the skyrocket as much because you are starting higher. In addition, the GPU on the skyrocket is quite inferior. The result is a choppy experience. I compared the two and saw this time and time again. In addition, the resolution is worse on the skyrocket (same pixels but bigger screen). This is stuff people will notice and use on a daily basis, much more often than LTE. Also, there is not going to be nearly as much dev work on the skyrocket.
Really, there is one small advantage of the skyrocket (LTE) and a lot of big ones for the i777.
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I completely disagree. Man I just don't understand the need to make up lies and no valid point as to why osgs2 is better. You like everyone else are just defending your purchase. For all potential owners do your own research. From my personal experience with both phone your not missing anything but gaining LTE, 4.5 screen, higher HSPA+ speed better battery. If you like lots of custom roms and your a gamer go with the osgs2.
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No you won't see any additional charges. You do have to upgrade (exchange for 4G) your sim card though.
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So changing out your 3G for 4G SIM card does that constitute a contract change and then give ATT free reign to change your plan and take away the unlimited grandfathered plans and features that I have had for several years and I am absolutely not willing to change?
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So changing out your 3G for 4G SIM card does that constitute a contract change and then give ATT free reign to change your plan and take away the unlimited grandfathered plans and features that I have had for several years and I am absolutely not willing to change?
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Possibly? You would have to ask a store rep. I still have unlimited and my features from my previous plans. I am not sure if a sim card upgrade constitutes as a plan/contract upgrade.
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Possibly? You would have to ask a store rep. I still have unlimited and my features from my previous plans. I am not sure if a sim card upgrade constitutes as a plan/contract upgrade.
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Just was checking and getting feedback...I always ask the rep to NOT change any instance of my plan or adjust anything that will effect the status of it. Thanks for the input and thoughts.
good review Ken. yeah the only problem i have with this thing so far is the resolution (especially when you go from looking at a vivid/raider screen to it). and changing the density is good but then touchwiz and the dialer need to be resized.
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So changing out your 3G for 4G SIM card does that constitute a contract change and then give ATT free reign to change your plan and take away the unlimited grandfathered plans and features that I have had for several years and I am absolutely not willing to change?
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No we can change your sim card without touching your data plan. No worries.
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good review Ken. yeah the only problem i have with this thing so far is the resolution (especially when you go from looking at a vivid/raider screen to it). and changing the density is good but then touchwiz and the dialer need to be resized.
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I completely agree. That's by far the worst aspect of the device.
Great review Mr. Penn
If you had a previous "4g" device such as infuse,attic,inspire,or the gs2 you dont need to switch your sim just pop the old out and into your New phone
(Going back and forth between the og and skyrocket)
There is always going to be pros and cons on any phone that comes out. Whether its hardware or looks there will always be people who like it or dislike it. Just from what I have read the lte is only major advantage the skyrocket has. Other then that there pretty close as far as day to day use. I don't live in a lte area and I have no idea when it will actually be available here. I hear people say get the skyrocket now cause in a year or two it lte should be available in most major cities. That's my issue though cause in a year or two there will be a lot more phones that are lte capable out there. They will be faster and probably HD screen (seems to be the way the screens are going now) have the latest software etc etc etc. So I will wait. Even though I have a upgrade next month ill wait. Quad core phones are starting to step into the picture. By next year we should have some amazing phones with outrageous specs. I am jealous at those that live in a lte area. The lte speeds you guys are getting are crazy.
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I have had some isuses with verizons 4G LTE network and am thinking of going 100% AT&T again. I still have my galaxy S2 and like it alot, but want 720p and LTE. the S4 seems nice too.
I may wait for the galaxy S3 or maybe verizon can some how fix this crap. (Yea right)
Any way: I won't do it with out a unlimited data plan, becuase I don't see a use for LTE and 720p with only 3GB to play with. ( I have a "unlimited non-smartphone" data plan on my GT-9100 but I don't think it will work with this phone.)
I have made a list of pros and con's for this phone:
Pros:
1) It will be out soon.
2) It's on AT&T's BETTER LTE network.
3) The 28nm S4 seem's like a blast vs any thing else.
4) The 720P SLCD2 seems alot better this time vs the SLCD of 2011.(I will need to see this for myself, to make sure it lives up to the videos I have seen.)
5) HTC can make a good phone when they make it the "ONE". LOL
Con's:
1) It's GPU does not seem like a big boost VS the CPU power.
2) Non-removable battery. ( If this phone acts like my RAZR, I will be yelling NOOOOOO like in the movies. If it's better than my S2 at not locking up, then not so bad.)
3) No SD cards. ( I would be alot more ok if they had 32 and 64GB phones for sale.)
4) I don't like the buttion layout. ( I wish it was like the S2 with a push down home key.)
ok so to be or not to be HTCed. ready set comment
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I would wait for the S3 as Samsung promised much better battery life (maybe around 2300mAh+). The LG Optimus 4X also has 2100mAh battery. Hopefully they could deliver 7-8 hour screen time which would be a dream. I would 120% get one if that was the case. One X's battery is meh (1700mAh), maybe around 4-5h screen time max.
I don't know about the One X display, but my Sensation display looks pathetic compared to my girl's S2. SAMOLED is just so much prettier than anything else.
No microSD is also sad .
But i love HTC designs and Sense UI that's why i chose HTC. ICS Touchwiz is one big fat uggo (albeit very smooth).
If you want best spec, you may want to wait for the S3, if you want pretty and useful experience, i guess you cannot go wrong with the One X.
I am more for useful than "pretty".
It's a 50/50 split on a ONE XL fourm. LOL
I really want my next phone to be LTE, but I will say H+ can be pretty good and even play in the same court in REAL world phone use. When I first got my GT-9100, I took it in to a verizon store and mobed the foor with all the best phones all the way every time intill the RAZR tied or beet it most of the time. (I should have seen, the phone had isuses, but I wanted unlimited LTE so bad, becuase my home internet sucks.)
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Any way: I won't do it with out a unlimited data plan, becuase I don't see a use for LTE and 720p with only 3GB to play with. ( I have a "unlimited non-smartphone" data plan on my GT-9100 but I don't think it will work with this phone.)
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Any way: I won't do it with out a unlimited data plan, becuase I don't see a use for LTE and 720p with only 3GB to play with. ( I have a "unlimited non-smartphone" data plan on my GT-9100 but I don't think it will work with this phone.)
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I understand your desire for LTE, but have you thought about going with the HTC One X? It doesn't have LTE, but I think the support will be much greater over on those forums. Not to mention, since it won't come with an IMEI that AT&T will recognize considering it's an "international" phone, you should be able to just pop the sim in that you have now for your S2.
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that would work for you. Yes, it wouldn't be subsidized, but you bought an international S2, so I assume that wouldn't be a problem for you.
Wouldn't the SIM card be different though? I heard the One X will be using a micro-SIM and AT&T phones use the standard SIM card?
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Wouldn't the SIM card be different though? I heard the One X will be using a micro-SIM and AT&T phones use the standard SIM card?
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Well I know for sure the odds are stacking up against the razr. Fac reset has failed me and I knew it would, but you know how it is.
Update: They are sending me a refurb. I don't know if this will fix anything, but AT&T is looking better and better to come back to 100%
Update2: I think I will wait and see what the galaxy s3 has to bring to the table. This Droid Razr I have sucks eggs by the way. I don't care for subs, but I don't really want to buy any more "3G"/H+ phones. After having a 4G LTE phone no matter how much it sucks, you still will feel the need for 15+mbs every now and then. My ISP sucks too and I like Netflix so yea. I used 94GB on Verizon one time, because I could only pull less than 1mbs DL from my ISP and I pay for 10mbs DL and 1UL. The funny part is I get 100kbs more UL speed than I pay for, but 1/2 to 1/10 of the DL speed I pay for.( TWC SUCKS)
Ok thats all for now
Which is a better package deal? Sprints data services blows if not in a 4g area or WiFi, but their variant of the one x seems to be what at&ts model should of been, plus it adds goodies we don't have
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It seems like you should get what works better in your area for coverage. It's all preference. But I can tell you that this phone is the best one on the market as of right now.
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I love this phone. Blazing fast. And it is gorgeous. I saw the new evo lte and it looks hideous. Sorry but I can't stand having an ugly phone lol. Just my personal preference. Now do I wish we had an sd card? Absolutely.
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Sprint's flavor is definitely a better phone. Are you okay with their coverage? Do you prefer the looks of one over the other?
I have been reading this forum for a few weeks now because I'm getting the new evo and the phones are almost a mirror image in specs. The phone looks fine for me. The expandable storage, extra 200 mah in battery, dedicated camera button and kickstands make it very attractive compared to the att version. I do agree that the phone does not look as good though.
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Lol I do admit the design is no where near as sexy as our hox, I haven't been able to put this thing down lol, coverage is fine in my area, I'm just waiting to see the evo in person, my decision is weighing on what I pay a month, at&t tries to rob u if you let em lol
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One X pros: overall design, data speeds / coverage (depends on area)
EVO LTE pros: Bigger and removable battery, sd card support, kickstand (yes, its a pro trust me)
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I left Sprint knowing all of this.
I have a One X now.
The design was a MAJOR turn off. It's a slap in the face compare to the One X.
Bigger battery didnt mean anything because the One X gets incredible life. Removable SD means nothing because I never removed the one from my Evo 4G. Kickstand is a gimmick, I never used mine. HD Voice only works if you have Sprint and Evo 4G LTE (or capable phone). None of my friends have Sprint, I was the only one, lol, smh. All my friends mix up between AT&T, Tmobile and Verizon.
Oh yeah, having 4G LTE up and running > Sprints waiting game
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One X pros: overall design, data speeds / coverage (depends on area)
EVO LTE pros: Bigger and removable battery, sd card support, kickstand (yes, its a pro trust me)
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Sprint seems to always have a great device...
just no coverage area
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I'm always on!
it has a bigger battery because it's going to need it on that CDMA network versus GSM. batteries are typically bigger due to fast drain because of that network. i was a Sprint customer for one year... their service is pretty horrid in my area in comparison to AT&T.
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I left Sprint knowing all of this.
I have a One X now.
The design was a MAJOR turn off. It's a slap in the face compare to the One X.
Bigger battery didnt mean anything because the One X gets incredible life. Removable SD means nothing because I never removed the one from my Evo 4G. Kickstand is a gimmick, I never used mine. HD Voice only works if you have Sprint and Evo 4G LTE (or capable phone). None of my friends have Sprint, I was the only one, lol, smh. All my friends mix up between AT&T, Tmobile and Verizon.
Oh yeah, having 4G LTE up and running > Sprints waiting game
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The kickstand is definitely not a gimmick. It depends on how you use your phone. I have a sling box so I used the kickstand ALL the time when streaming TV.
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Sprint's network is total garbage where I am at. You couldn't pay me to go back. My sub 1mbps speeds with sprint were unacceptable
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I'm facing the same decision and I'm leaning towards going with AT&T and the One X for reasons already mentioned in this thread. I can't deal with Sprint's network. I'll choose AT&T's HSPA+/LTE combo everyday over what Sprint has (and AT&T's greater coverage area).
I'll voice my support for the kickstand however. It has been quite useful on my EVO 4G.
Its all about coverage, I would consider that the single most important thing. For example Im from South Florida, an area with excellent coverage on all services. That being said, a few months ago I switched from sprint to ATT. Sprint data speeds are so slow compared to ATT, and are much less reliable. Sometimes I would get just as quick speeds, but they would jump all the time depending on the area. Google music was useless for me on sprint, because sprint couldnt even stream my songs quick enough for them to play without buffering. That and the fact that my family plan is cheaper on ATT made it a no brainer.
ATT is a much better service, even when you think you have full service on sprint. I wouldn't switch for such negligible differences between phones, unless the storage is really just unacceptable. Dedicated camera is nice, but this thing takes pictures so quick that shake is rarely an issue. And as was said, the battery difference won't be noticeable.
Sprint is going to roll out LTE and better 3g soon. Hopefully they don't let me down like they did with wimax. If it does go well I will have unlimited LTE data
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No doubt the one x is sexy!!!! I just wish at&t didn't tamper with it like they did. Lol they gave us less storage space so we'd be force to use cloud and and streaming sources, to go over our data...lol making more money for them
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Sprint is going to roll out LTE and better 3g soon. Hopefully they don't let me down like they did with wimax. If it does go well I will have unlimited LTE data
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And the end of the world is coming too but no one knows when. I bet sprint won't have their Lte going till mid to end of 2013. I'll switch over then if it's everything they say it will be. Why torture myself so early?
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Honestly. This is the way I see it... I'm not looking at the specs of the phone. Both are great and really comparable.
The biggest issue I think, most people are ignoring, is the LTE. On my EVO I'm getting like 8.5Mbps on WiMax. Not bad! I like it. However. I wouldn't get that speed with the EVO 4G LTE on Sprint (fallback is to 3G not the WiMax). So this phone is actually a downgrade in speed. Personally, I have an issue with this. 2 years later and I'm getting a phone that's going to load web pages slower? Me thinks not.
The real problem is how long it will take Sprint to get the LTE coverage. IF you are in an area with it for the first set of cities they are rolling it out to...Then fine. You're in good shape. Otherwise, unless you're not eligible for an upgrade for a year or something...You're in a bad spot (like me). If you go ahead and upgrade now, the phone you get will be half out of it's life cycle by the time you get LTE. If not completely out. You certainly will be eligible for a new phone upgrade - let's put it that way. That being the case, you didn't get a One X/EVO 4G LTE, you just got a One X/EVO 3G.
IF speed is not a concern for you then you will be looking at differences in the phone...But something tells me that's a very small percentage of users. I love Sprint, but hate to say it... AT&T is likely going to win on this one and again as mentioned, I joined my wife and the family plan is a little cheaper now for me compared to Sprint.
Oh and another gripe I have. $99/mo for unlimited everything....EXCEPT the fine print where it says you also have to pay $10/mo for a "premium" device. I think Sprint should waive this $10/mo fee for the EVO 4G LTE given that you aren't going to be able to use the 4G on it.
edit -- and now I get 25-30Mbps. So 8-10Mbps or whatever to 20-30Mbps is definitely something I would think 2 years worth of technology advances should get me.
What's up One X peeps? I am currently with Sprint on a Galaxy S2 in the Bristol, Tn area. Not so great of service and it is only 3g coverage for Sprint here so far(no plans in the future to add LTE here as far as I know...which is stupid because the race track is sponsored by Sprint and yet they have the worst service in the area duhuh..)...aaanyway, I am considering AT&T because I can pay a little extra and have 4g almost anywhere I go in the Tri Cities. So I am torn between the S3 and the One X. I have had Sense phones and touchwiz phones so I am really asking if anyone would care to share what they love about their One X and why they chose it over the S3. They are both remarkable but I am honestly leaning toward the One X because it is different in an appealing kind of way. I am just an average user other than rooting every phone I get my hands on. Browsing, texting, listening to music with headphones, email, etc. I had a Nexus S 4G before the S2 and a Hero before that. I have loved all of my phones but I kind of want something different right now. It also helps that the One X is on sale for $99 until September.
Funny you mentioned the race track, I'm right by Pocono and there is no lte either lol, oh wait there's no service at all by the SPRINT sponsored race track! Lolol. So glad I'm on att now
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DO IT. I was with Sprint for 5 years, and ever since they got the iPhone my 3G speeds were simply atrocious. How good is having unlimited data when you're pulling 0.5mbps down(on a good day)? And I'm in a network vision completed area! The difference really is night and day, and so damn worth it.
Also, battery life on the One X with LTE is better than my EVO 4G, EVO 3D and Galaxy Nexus ever had on 3G... TIMES TWO. I've left my phone unplugged for eight hours when going to bed, to wake up and find out it only used 2% battery. ON LTE.
There really is no contest here. It's even worth paying an ETF. I sold my (mint condition) Galaxy Nexus on ebay for $350 and paid my ETF with that.
Good luck!
I was a Sprint customer for a decade and finally got fed up with their data speeds. What's the point of unlimited data if you can't even use it? After a brief trial with Verizon, I made the move to AT&T in January and couldn't be happier. The HOX is an absolute beast of a phone and coupled with AT&T's blazing LTE speeds (and even their fast-enough HSPA+ when LTE isn't available) it's pretty much unstoppable. I had heard horror stories about AT&T's customer service before coming over here but my experience with them has been nothing but positive, and I have tested the patience of more than a handful of AT&T reps since making the move. They are friendly, somewhat knowledgeable, they do try to help as best they can, and best of all- they are incredibly easy to manipulate. Do it man, you'll be glad you did.
The main reason I left sprint was due to the horrible 3G speeds. You know how bad it feels to see buffering every 5 seconds on sprint watching youtube? The slowest speed I've got on ATT was 6mbps, thats more than enough for anything I need to do. Sprint, I was barely able to do 0.5mpbs with full bars, pathetic.
Good bye Sprint, You won't ever see me again. I'm paying $10 more a month, but its we'll worth it.
Yeah, I am thinking it is going to be worth the transfer. It doesnt seem too crazy to get root and unlock the bootloader from what I have read so I am sure I can manage. The only work arpund I will have to find is the storage but dropbox is offering the 25gb space still if I am not mistaken.
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Yeah, I am thinking it is going to be worth the transfer. It doesnt seem too crazy to get root and unlock the bootloader from what I have read so I am sure I can manage. The only work arpund I will have to find is the storage but dropbox is offering the 25gb space still if I am not mistaken.
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The latest firmware version (2.20) is not currently rootable, although its being worked on. No root also means no bootloader unlock. It seems that based on reports here, a lot of newly purchased One X's have 2.20 pre-installed. Maybe you can find a store with some older stock (1.73 and 1.85 are okay). But if you need root and unlocked BL right now, be aware when buying.
Also, I think AT&T stopped supporting the Dropbox promotion a while ago.
I'd recommend the secondary market vs buying a new one at this point.
Att gave me a $175 trade on my Epic 4G touch when I came from sprint a month ago...best decision I made in a long time.
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come on over! I honestly don't know how people put up with Sprint's data speeds. Also, I don't have any complaints with AT&T except I'm patiently waiting for LTE in Denver (HSPA+ is good enough, but why put up with "good enough" ). I've been with the company since their Cingular days and won't be going anywhere for a while (unless I jump over to Straight Talk to save some $$)
The S3 has better hardware specs but the HOX is better looking.
Basically it comes down to sd card/more ram/removable battery vs better screen and build quality.
IMO the S3 is ugly as sin, with a dated, pedestrian design (seriously, a physical home button?). But some people like it.
If you're a power user you may be better off with the S3 because of the better multitasking (more ram) and storage space. If looks and design matter to you, go with the HOX.
I came from iOS, so the sd card slot and battery were not really a big deal, while the design was.
AT&T's coverage is not as big as Verizon's but the data speeds are nice. Their customer service has always been pretty good on most issues (exceptions being the various things they like to lock down--but Verizon has always been far worse about that anyway).
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What's up One X peeps? I am currently with Sprint on a Galaxy S2 in the Bristol, Tn area. Not so great of service and it is only 3g coverage for Sprint here so far(no plans in the future to add LTE here as far as I know...which is stupid because the race track is sponsored by Sprint and yet they have the worst service in the area duhuh..)...aaanyway, I am considering AT&T because I can pay a little extra and have 4g almost anywhere I go in the Tri Cities. So I am torn between the S3 and the One X. I have had Sense phones and touchwiz phones so I am really asking if anyone would care to share what they love about their One X and why they chose it over the S3. They are both remarkable but I am honestly leaning toward the One X because it is different in an appealing kind of way. I am just an average user other than rooting every phone I get my hands on. Browsing, texting, listening to music with headphones, email, etc. I had a Nexus S 4G before the S2 and a Hero before that. I have loved all of my phones but I kind of want something different right now. It also helps that the One X is on sale for $99 until September.
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if you want a year old device and pentile....nexus.
if you want up to date hardware and a fawking amazing screen..HOX
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if you want a year old device and pentile....nexus.
if you want up to date hardware and a fawking amazing screen..HOX
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U know how ppl who have sprint deal with the horrid speeds? by never experiencing good speeds..lol..I've never saw over a mb/s unless on my airave or WiFi....I don't even attempt doing stuff when I'm out and about that requires more than minimal bandwidth..but I'm in the early 2nd round of network vision so hopefully that will change ..if 6mb/s is slow for you then I'm jealous..can't imagine u need much more than that for anything..YouTube app still buffers for me on WiFi when playing hd content..and its 20 down..anyone else have that issue ?
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U know how ppl who have sprint deal with the horrid speeds? by never experiencing good speeds..lol..I've never saw over a mb/s unless on my airave or WiFi....I don't even attempt doing stuff when I'm out and about that requires more than minimal bandwidth..but I'm in the early 2nd round of network vision so hopefully that will change ..if 6mb/s is slow for you then I'm jealous..can't imagine u need much more than that for anything..YouTube app still buffers for me on WiFi when playing hd content..and its 20 down..anyone else have that issue ?
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The LTE service that I get is so fast, there is ZERO difference from WiFi, and can even be faster in some cases. When I start watching a video on youtube and switch to HD, it starts playing immediately. I can't even begin to explain how much faster it is compared to even Sprint's solid WiMAX service here in Boston.
Speaking of WiMAX, LTE on AT&T runs at 700mhz, so LTE signals penetrate buildings even better than 3G and voice if you can believe it. I remember with WiMAX my signal would drop if I stepped over a shadow.
And while I've seen bursts of up to 60mbps(I kid you not), It's the insanely low ping times(about 30ms) that make you feel like you're using WiFi.
I think I will go for it. It will cost probably $10-20 mpre a month because pf the discpunt I get with Sprint through my bank...but again, I am tired of waiting for service and having to constantly roam with roamcontrol just to make a phone call in my apartment. I will try to get time to give more thanks later. I believe I talked myself into it earlier today. Design and feel mean a lot to me. And if those Apple fanbois are happy with no removable battery or sd card then I can manage too lol. Thank you all for your input!
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It's pretty much is what I get to see while attempting to watch any video content LOL..
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If you want amazing dev nexus if you want bad aosp dev due to att being good one x
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