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Contract is (sorta) up...deciding between MT4g and EVO

I am going to post this in both forums. I think it will be an interesting read for each. haha
I'm on sprint. My Premier account is up and I can get a phone upgrade. I currently have a Hero and was going to get an EVO on Monday.
Because of the pro-rated ETF fees from Sprint, I can cancel my account for $120.
I watched several reviews for the My Touch 4g and was really impressed with the phone. The quadrant scores were cool to see. I realize that isn't the be all/end all but from the couple days of research I did on the phone, I am liking what I'm seeing.
I've read up on the EVO for several weeks now. I'm familiar with the phone and realize the amount of user support it has. I am 'pro root' so I would be looking for the root option in the future.
Price wise, T-Mobile and Sprint with WI-Max would be about the same cost to me each month.
With choosing to stay with Sprint I'd lose the Premier account status. I would have to sit with the MT4G for 2 years or buy out of pocket.
I'd be buying an 'older' phone but one that has a great user community. I'd probably be happy with the Evo until my next Premier renew date.
I'd have the Wi-Max network to use.
I'd have a better screen? I don't know yet as I haven't tried the MT4G at a store.
With choosing to go with T-Mobile I'd be getting a newer phone for the same price as I would pay for the Evo (ETF of $120 and I've seen the MT4G for sale for $80). Next gen processor.
I'd be losing screen real estate and the look and feel of the Evo which I've come to like.
I'd be losing the xda community support or the amount. I am sure the MT4G community will grow.
I'd be committed to T-Mobile for 2 years. I wouldn't be able to upgrade after 12 months.
***Coverage-wise, it's a tossup. I live in Minneapolis and have Wi-Max and from what I see on T-Mobile, HSPA+ is here too. A concern of mine is that when we travel back home (to eastern wisconsin) the coverage for T-Mobile is extinct. the website shows it using a different carrier. Sprint back home is 3g.
Not sure what I want to do. My friend who has an Evo looked at the MT4g and said he wouldn't switch based on looks. He hadn't investigated the phone in depth. Guess looks are important but I'm thinking a few other things that should weigh into the equation.
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts. I'll probably get fanboys from each forum but I'm sure there will be enough objective info to glean.
Thanks folks!

As you can see from my sig, I've had a decent amount of phones over the last couple years, and I can honestly say that the MT4G is my favorite of them thus far. Yes, even over the favored Nexus One. If the MT4G had "fastboot oem unlock" it would be perfect lol.
The big differences between the EVO and the MT4G is obviously the size and the newer hardware in the latter phone. Software can be swapped out at will, so if you don't like the mySense UI, give it some time and you can have your regular Sense or something like CM6. Hardware, on the other hand, can't be adjusted so if you pick the EVO you will always have the older Snapdragon and less memory. The screens on both of the phones are identical(as far as hardware is concerned), I believe, aside from the obvious size difference. The argument still rages whether or not the MT4G has SLCD or regular LCD(like the EVO). According to some reviewers, it's one. According to others, it's another. So, as far as hardware specs go, the question you need to ask is this: Do you want a bigger screen, but older internals? Or do you want a smaller screen(in comparison), but the latest and greatest?
On the topic of WiMAX: There was an article I read the other day saying that Clearwire, the provider of Sprint's 4G network, is cutting 15% of it's workforce to save money. This doesn't necessarily mean the company is in trouble, and most people speculate it's just Clear cutting costs to plan for the future. Your mileage may vary, but most reviews I have read have the HSPA+ of T-Mobile providing faster speeds than the WiMAX of Sprint.
On the topic of Community: Don't let the fact that the MT4G has a small community right now fool you. The phone hasn't even been out for a month, and we just achieved root the other day. When I moved from my G1 to the Motorola Droid, I was pretty unhappy with the tiny community that was supporting it and that was one of the (many) reasons I moved to the Nexus One as soon I was able. Now, the community is thriving. The same thing will happen here as more developers start getting this phone.

Thanks for responding. You brought up some stuff that I was thinking about but forgot to post. The Wi-Max thing is more about cost than anything. I've never had it and I don't like having to pay more a month for a phone that has it. My friend says that Minneapolis Wi-Max is about 8-8.9mb down. I don't expect that to be the same for me (I live about 15 miles away from where he works).
The cost of the plan with Wi-Max is the same as the cost of the HSPA+. Do I pay the extra money for Sprint or T-Mobile. Sprint's been good to me but it's not like they've been the most successful mobile communications company the last several years.
Another thing I thought of was that if I needed or wanted to get a different phone, the sprint CDMA choices are limited compared to the GSM T-Mobile phones (I'm talking on ebay).

daryllh said:
Thanks for responding. You brought up some stuff that I was thinking about but forgot to post. The Wi-Max thing is more about cost than anything. I've never had it and I don't like having to pay more a month for a phone that has it. My friend says that Minneapolis Wi-Max is about 8-8.9mb down. I don't expect that to be the same for me (I live about 15 miles away from where he works).
The cost of the plan with Wi-Max is the same as the cost of the HSPA+. Do I pay the extra money for Sprint or T-Mobile. Sprint's been good to me but it's not like they've been the most successful mobile communications company the last several years.
Another thing I thought of was that if I needed or wanted to get a different phone, the sprint CDMA choices are limited compared to the GSM T-Mobile phones (I'm talking on ebay).
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My recommendation to you is to stick with GSM carriers. They're much easier to work with. If you end up not liking the phone, and decide to sell it (or trade it), it's as simple as taking your SIM card out and putting the new buyer's in. When I sold my Droid, both me and my customer spent half a day on the phone with Verizon trying to convince them to let her activate it. They kept trying to tell us they couldn't release the phone from my now inactive account until the billing cycle was done, which was two weeks after I sold the phone.
I'd invite your friend over for a beer and borrow his EVO and see what kind of speeds you get out where you live. Speaking of, if for some reason, you actually don't have WiMAX where you live/work, you end up still paying the extra money for it regardless.
If you're worried about getting stuck with a phone you may not like for two years, why not buy it off contract? Yes, the upfront cost is higher but typically you end up spending less over a two year period than you would on contract. For instance, T-Mobile's "prepaid" packages are around $20 less than the postpaid. If you really end up not liking the service or the phone, throw it up on CraigsList or something similiar and try the other.

HSPA+, and T-mobile coverage in general, is a hit or miss in Minneapolis while Sprint is not too bad as far as I know. I mean, you will always have your voice connection but may be dropping to Edge quite often for data.
My suggestion: Start a new account with T-mobile, pick up MT4G with a different number and try it out for 2 weeks. If you like it - port your number to T-mobile. If you don't - return the phone and you won't loose much money.
Good luck.

Speaking as someone who broke his Sprint contract and sold his Evo (actually two of them) to switch to T-Mobile for the MT4G, I couldn't be happier.
That being said, the main driver for my decision was that Sprint still doesn't have WiMax in Indianapolis, and T-Mobile does have HSPA+. Sprint's 3G varies wildly here, and the places I was the most (work/home) had the worst signal/data speeds. Another thing about Sprint is it broadcasts on the 1800mhz channel which is known to have a problem penetrating walls.
I did love just about everything on the Evo. It's dev community is AMAZING. No Wimax or HDMI out on CM6 did suck though. And the gpu on the first gen snapdragon left a lot to be desired (like 27-29 fps on neocore).
Another thing to remember about Sprint is there is no data cap, whereas T-Mo has a 5GB softcap after which they limit you to a snail's pace.
I am very happy about my MT4G. The biggest differences for me are the improvement in network speeds (significant for me) and the increase of the gpu (the MT4G gets a 57-58 on neocore). Battery life is much better too.
I will say if I had WiMax in Indianapolis I would probably still be a happy Evo owner on Sprint, but they dropped the ball on that one.
Another point that might help, I recently read that after 3mpbs any increase in speed doesn't have a noticeable difference on webbrowsing unless you are downloading large files (maybe HD movies). What does matter is the pingback.

Myt4g all the way I know several people with the evo and myt4g runs laps around it. No joke google mytouch 4g vs evo and see for yourself
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My father and brother both have the evo. Myself and a couple of co-workers(by my request) all have mt4g's. The mytouch is far superior. Sure, you're not getting a huge screen, but it seems to be the perfect mix of size and portability(read: pocketability), and there's no hdmi output(which I would never use), but come on....WIFI CALLING! How can you top that? You get service anywhere you can connect to a wifi access point. And that's on top of being super fast with the latest cpu offering from qualcomm. Everything about it is fantastic, even more so now that it's been rooted. I've been faithful to t-mobile for 8 years, and it's paid off. Their value can't be beat, and their devices just keep getting better. Did I mention the wifi calling?

Just get an evo
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Placed the order for the phone today. Will get it Wednesday.
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welcome to the family!

I think you'll be very pleased with the MT4G.
Also obligatory run download from the market and run aLogcat after you get your phone to try and snag the update link for the rest of us!

My mom has the ego and now I have the my touch 4G so I have used both quite a bit.* If you are stuck on screen size, get the evo, though I think it is too big and that the mytouch or vibrant are perfect screen size wise.* But in my opinion screen size is the only plus of the evo.* The mytouch looks better physically imo.* Plus the mytouch version of sense does everything the evo version does plus more, and it looks nicer van that just bar at the bottom of the original sense.* So I would go with the mt4g.* Plus Sprint has terrible customer service and tmo is great.
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Sprints customer service is actually pretty good because they are trying to make up for years of sucking
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Tmo still has the longest standing #1 rank customer service record of any wireless carrier by far!
Both in continuous years running AND in total years...
Food for thought
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Just put my evo up on ebay, tried out the myt4 for a week , got similar data speed, not regreting
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My friend has a g2 and he's getting 9-10 dl speeds around downtown Minneapolis.
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daryllh said:
My friend has a g2 and he's getting 9-10 dl speeds around downtown Minneapolis.
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I think I've worded myself wrong. Speeds are fine, the coverage is spotty.
My drive to work is less then 15 min (Hopkins to Bloomington/Richfield area) and I like to stream music on the go. My connection drops 2-3 times in that period every day. Every summer we go to Goose island on Minnetonka Lake. AT&T streams music fine there, all I get is Edge.
I could list many more examples but you get the idea. You have nothing to worry about though, you have 14 days to get back to Sprint in case you're not satisfied, I'm stuck with T-mobile for a long haul (4 lines, started service in 2001) since no other carrier can even touch what I pay now.
YMMV. Good luck.

I guess I can do that. I'll have to read up on what to do for you guys.
How come this download link is hard to come by? Wouldn't it have been logged already by somebody?
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I think you'll be very pleased with the MT4G.
Also obligatory run download from the market and run aLogcat after you get your phone to try and snag the update link for the rest of us!
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daryllh said:
I guess I can do that. I'll have to read up on what to do for you guys.
How come this download link is hard to come by? Wouldn't it have been logged already by somebody?
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All you need to do is download aLogcat from the marketplace, set it to periodically save to your SD card(under Menu > Settings on the app), and let it run! Once you get your update, you can remove your app and send me the log in PM. It doesn't record any private information such as contest of text messages or emails or passwords so don't worry about that; rather it logs the background processes that runs the phone.
I know on my first device, I was caught up in the excitement of rooting and the idea of "Ah someone else will get it." On my new one, I've been running it since last Wednesday but haven't received my update yet. Once we have the link, everyone will be able to manually update if they have to change devices or don't feel like waiting for the OTA.

Jealous of Sprint new EVO?

Okay so i just left Sprint for Verizon to get the thunderbolt and was royally pissed off lol, but now i'm not. Okay, so i been on the fence contemplating going back to Sprint and decided not to. When i had my EVO (which i still do waiting to sell it), the support it got was amazing, but my 3g on it was sub-par. I live in New York, and i was seriously getting horrid connection. I even thought about all the graphic power the new one is getting, but then i said to myself "half the games in the market don't even use all that power", so isn't it redundant to desire such a powerful phone with so many games work fine on the thunderbolt? I mean, i sound like i'm trying to justify my switch, but just thinking out loud for anyone who feels the same as me. And what up with all the hate on the thunderbolt by Evo users? I thought the Android community was suppose to be together, some of them sound like whining Apple fanbois.

That's how it happens. It's called "latest technology". I argued with my girlfriends mom for about an hour.....
about why Apple aint ****.

I am not jealous of the new EVO. The reason is two. First I have a moto xoom, so I have a powerful device with a screen big enough to enjoy the power. Second, like you said, is that Sprint is crap. I would have said the opposite a week ago, but I would have been in denial .
The EVO was better than the iPhone 2g/3g/3gs' and Sprint was better than AT&T that I had had for the 3 years prior. As such I was happy with the phone, which was somewhat crippled by the sprint network. The biggest thing I hated about Sprint, was they were INCONSISTENT. Didn't matter if it was peak or off-peak hours everytime I grabbed the phone I had no way of knowing if it would give me an efficient or inefficient experience. In the car I used a Wilson Sleek signal booster which made things like streaming over Pandora or Slacker consistent, but it's a cradle so its not idea for much more than that.
The thunderbird thus far has proven to be a better phone than the old EVO, but more importantly it seems to have hardware that works well on the network. Anyone with an EVO even in a strong 4G area can attest to the 30+ seconds it takes to get a 4G connection, and how it never seemed to come back if the connection in the area was less than idea. The one time so far that my EVO went to 3G, it went back to 4G almost immediately. I live in North Las Vegas, but my part of town has not been the Boonies for 20 years.
In summation. Even if Sprint "does it again" and releases a super friggin awesome phone, as the EVO was, it wont make up for their less than ideal network. Sprint is not bad per se, they just aren't great.

ipawd1 said:
That's how it happens. It's called "latest technology". I argued with my girlfriends mom for about an hour.....
about why Apple aint ****.
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Lol
There is always going to ne something better on the horizon that's I upgrade every 6 months or so ;op
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theoneownz said:
Lol
There is always going to ne something better on the horizon that's I upgrade every 6 months or so ;op
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Well of course i know that, just bummed as soon as i jumped ship they release this haha. The obvious, of course, is that we will get something similar also, but just wanted to speak my mind for those who feel like me. I focused more on the specs in the original post, but i was also curious why almost every website i got on about the thunderbolt you have some uptight mad Evo user bashing it, quite comical and sad at the same time.
@setite the 4g on sprint was horrid, especially indoors.

I too left Sprint (of 5 plus years) for the TB... I am jealous of the Sprint's new EVO, but not their 2.5 GHz WIMAX.. If hey get their 800MHz frequency up and running with LTE or even move WIMAX there or maybe even WIMAX 2, then I shall return

sprint is ****, friend has an evo, we just compared phones and speeds... no competition with their "4G" if they can even call it that
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Zerotwistknife7 said:
sprint is ****, friend has an evo, we just compared phones and speeds... no competition with their "4G" if they can even call it that
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lol, look at this and see what i mean:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-view-4g-confirms-sprint-bound-motorola-xoom/
Comment by Richard Yarrell March 19, 2011 at 1:43 am :
This makes the verizon thunderbolt look like a STEP CHILD… Verizon wanted to have a hand me down product they got it. Everyone knows htc doesn’t do business with Verizon never and they got exactly what they wanted last year’s evo but the funny part is our current 10month old htc evo 4g is still better there isn’t even a toggle 4g switch on there device it just keeps runing and too top it off there bootloader is locked another verizon trick. Evo owners on sprint REJOICE we have truly a WINNER in every way our 2011 lineup has all 4g devices and all the newly announced devices are running 2.3.3ginerbread straight out the box not 2.2 froyo like the thunderbolt and all other verizon products… Welcome our new KING OF ANDROID http://www.androidcentral.com/
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I think that Verizon needs to be closer with HTC or even SAMSUNG , instead of MOTOROLA

i love how it says the bootloader is locked when it isn't

asenduk said:
I think that Verizon needs to be closer with HTC or even SAMSUNG , instead of MOTOROLA
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verizon needs to get away from samsung i love my fascinate but samsung is sooooo bad with customer service since officially we are still on 2.1 but thanks to the devs i have froyo

mykenyc said:
lol, look at this and see what i mean:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-view-4g-confirms-sprint-bound-motorola-xoom/
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LOL wow big ego much? it still took them time to root and unlock their phones too...
I doubt it was anywhere as fast as AndIRC did it, first night=root, second night=unlock bootloader/custom recovery
If that's not a record or something, I'd be suprised...

Nice hardware is useless when the service is useless. I've been a Sprint customer forever but lately their 3G is useless and 4G coverage is spotty and slower than when it was first rolled out. The HTC Thunderbolt hardware is no comparison to Samsung Epic 4G, mainly AMOLED screen/CPU/GPU performance, but the superior LTE connectivity makes the hardware inferiority a small compromise.

mi7chy said:
Nice hardware is useless when the service is useless. I've been a Sprint customer forever but lately their 3G is useless and 4G coverage is spotty and slower than when it was first rolled out. The HTC Thunderbolt hardware, mainly AMOLED screen/CPU/GPU performance, is no comparison to Samsung Epic 4G but the superior LTE connectivity makes the hardware inferiority a small compromise.
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Amazingly accurate response.

mi7chy said:
Nice hardware is useless when the service is useless. I've been a Sprint customer forever but lately their 3G is useless and 4G coverage is spotty and slower than when it was first rolled out. The HTC Thunderbolt hardware is no comparison to Samsung Epic 4G, mainly AMOLED screen/CPU/GPU performance, but the superior LTE connectivity makes the hardware inferiority a small compromise.
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+1
I will never go back to Sprint ever after they treated me terribly when I complained about getting 1x speeds in the city of Chicago outdoors in an area marked "best indoor 4g coverage" on their map. With Verizon I get 4g anywhere indoors and don't have to stick my head and arm way out the window to get decent data speeds. And on Sprint the decent data speeds are literally 400kbps. see thread "data speeds, wtf?" in the Evo general forum.
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I'm a longtime sprint drone...since nextel I1000 lol
I'm about ready to make the jump. I love my EVO but the data is very spotty, sometimes decent 5-6MB DL but quite often less than 1/2 meg. I live in a 4G city too.
Price is getting closer too. I have 3 smart devices...
Sprint
130- 2 lines everything data 1500
20- extra line
30- 10 per line for smarty
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180 but I get 25% off the 130 for corp discount
150 = Bottom line plus taxes
Red
with my corp discount 18%~
110 2 lines talk/text 1400
10 3rd line
72 3 x24 data packs
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192 + taxes
I'm very close to jumping ship.

Any carriers service varies by location that is self evident.
Another thing that is self evident is that the new evo is a BEAST!
There's no denying the hardware is amazing
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LoveisPeace2012 said:
Any carriers service varies by location that is self evident.
Another thing that is self evident is that the new evo is a BEAST!
There's no denying the hardware is amazing
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Yes it is. Just hope we don't have no android civil war ,because it seems that way with certain people.
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Nexus S 4G or keep my thunderbolt?

Hey everybody ive been thinkn bout switchn to the nexus s 4g, i currently have the thunderbolt for verizon. i know i have to switch to sprint and thats not a problem. the questions i have is should i take the plunge? hows sprints coverage? or should i just wait for the next nexus to come out? and can you all share your pros and cons of your device? thank you all in advance.

I dont have Sprint nor a Nexus s 4g, but I do have a Nexus s on T-Mobile. This is the best phone I've ever owned ... I haven't had any problems with it. Plus stock Android is amazing. I know HTC sense UI has it's pros and its cons but I take stock Android anyday.
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Ok and yes i luv stock android. I am rooted and running CM7 alpha i got rid of sense as soon as i could.
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jr313 said:
Hey everybody ive been thinkn bout switchn to the nexus s 4g, i currently have the thunderbolt for verizon. i know i have to switch to sprint and thats not a problem. the questions i have is should i take the plunge? hows sprints coverage? or should i just wait for the next nexus to come out? and can you all share your pros and cons of your device? thank you all in advance.
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Since I've never used a Thunderbolt, you'll have to take the following with a grain of salt. First, Verizon's coverage is much better than Sprint's coverage. Sprint's 'nationwide' coverage has next to no native coverage in Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, and Nevada. Other areas are more sparse than Verizon as well. However, Sprint has free roaming with 3G speeds (assuming Verizon has 3G in that area). You won't get Sprint services like Sprint Navigation, TV, etc. while roaming (at least I don't think you do).
I had the nexus s 4g for about a month, but ultimately returned it. The only reason I returned it was that I did not have a signal at my workplace. My previous phones have all had pretty poor signal at my work, but the nexus was a just a little worse (enough that it wouldn't receive the majority of calls/text, whereas my older phones would get most of them). The coverage is bad there since it's basically a concrete block and I had no problems anywhere else with the nexus s. The minor things were creaky battery cover (probably just on mine and could have been fixed with a new cover) and no led notification light.
The things I liked were good battery life (even with poor signal at my work), standard google with no sprint branding at all, native hotspot feature works like google intended it to work, the size was really nice, amoled screen looked very good, and the phone was very fast in everything I did. It was also very easy to root and get superuser on (other than needing to move some of the tools in android sdk from 'platform-tools' to 'tools').

They're making a radio update. Should've waited.
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The only thing you might miss is Verizons network. Me and mikeyinid both switched from the Thunderbolt and I can personally say it was the best decision I have made.

O ok. How much better of a phone is it than the TB? I do worry bout the coverage i travel a lot throughout MI and other states as well i drive a truck.
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jr313 said:
O ok. How much better of a phone is it than the TB? I do worry bout the coverage i travel a lot throughout MI and other states as well i drive a truck.
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Look up the sprint map about coverage in the other hand I'll go with the nexus man stock android blows out of the water in speed , I had an evo (thunderbolt brother , practicly with a few updates ) LTE is great tho (where it works )
Ok so I had and Evo with CM7 stable but still some how had bugs , on nexus s I don't have any bugs and I don't even miss 720 p video recording , and I'm happy that I'm getting upsates straight from google , the evo got gingerbread 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 is out and I bet that's probably the last update for evo so not gtalk video chat ... btw I'm in las vegas and I switch from verizon to sprint cheaper service and in my already better service most of the time
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Like mbh87 said, we both came to the NS4G from the Bolt, and while I do miss the awesome service, the Nexus makes it worth it. I have no regrets switching. If your running CM on your bolt then the switch is a no brainer Not to mention your gonna save money with sprint. Don't let them talk you into a big plan. The 69 + 10 dollar for wimax is unlimited mobile to mobile on any network... Very good deal.
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Not to mention Sprint gives discount for almost everything. Check with your employer, bank, etc. I get 10% for being a credit union member, not much but its better than nothing and it got me free activation.

N00bsploder101 said:
They're making a radio update. Should've waited.
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If it really improves the signal, I'll just buy it again . I didn't have to pay a restocking fee, so I'm not out anything other than my time spent going to the Sprint store. I'll wait until the Evo 3D and/or the update gets released to make up my mind.

mbh87 said:
Not to mention Sprint gives discount for almost everything. Check with your employer, bank, etc. I get 10% for being a credit union member, not much but its better than nothing and it got me free activation.
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Yup I get 25% because I told them the verizon were giving me that (they were doing 19% ) , so the guy get me 25 % lol
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N00bsploder101 said:
They're making a radio update. Should've waited.
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hey, i was just wondering, do you have a link to that info? i haven't heard of anything about it, but would be awesome if they did.
to the op, verizon's always gonna have better general coverage than sprint, but if your area has good sprint coverage then it shouldnt really be a problem. also sprint is always gonna be generally cheaper than verizon (not to mention they'll give you a $125 bill credit if you port your verizon number over to the nexus before the end of this month).
As far as the nexus s 4g goes, man its smooth like butter the combination of hardware/software has given me almost zero lag in the UI. but your best bet is to just go test it out at the store.
and the nexus 3, shoot thats a tough call. i was gonna wait for it and not get the ns4g on contract, but im such a big fan of the nexus that im just gonna buy the nexus 3 outright when it comes out and sell this one or possibly keep both (i love it that much).

Thanks for all the info guys! and im goin to be gettn my nexus s 4g SOON as i get rid of this bolt, yous swayed me with all the good reviews! then i took the advice of goin to play with it hands on and man its crazy smooth and fast and thats even without bn rooted and oc'd, man i can only imagine. thank you all for bn cool enuff to help a brotha out, i shall be hangn out with yous very soon.

Don't buy the Evo3d btw.
Wait for the nexus 3.
The main advantages the nexus s has over the thunderbolt is the cpu and gpu, and screen of course.

jr313 said:
Thanks for all the info guys! and im goin to be gettn my nexus s 4g SOON as i get rid of this bolt, yous swayed me with all the good reviews! then i took the advice of goin to play with it hands on and man its crazy smooth and fast and thats even without bn rooted and oc'd, man i can only imagine. thank you all for bn cool enuff to help a brotha out, i shall be hangn out with yous very soon.
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Well let us know when you get it and if you got the thunderbolt rooted it will be a piece of cake to do this one
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N00bsploder101 said:
They're making a radio update. Should've waited.
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all hearsay, nothing is confirmed. i too returned mine and bought a new evo. feels good to have a decent signal for a change.

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Don't buy the Evo3d btw.
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the evo3d is ok but id wait to see if comes locked or not.

fixxxer2008 said:
all hearsay, nothing is confirmed. i too returned mine and bought a new evo. feels good to have a decent signal for a change.
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Lol
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Well considering sprint has the largest voice coverage in the US, switching to Sprint isn't a bad way to go if you are looking for good voice coverage.
Verizon has better 3G coverage though, and better 4G coverage.
Overall, my only issue with the nexus s 4g (vs. my old evo) is the wifi antenna is not as good. While the bars jump around much more than the evo, I get similar performance/coverage.
If fast data speeds are very important to you, verizon is probably a better bet. If you just need data connection to grab emails, use google navigation, etc, sprint works great.

T-Mobile us

I had T-Mobile for over six years and threw the years service had gotten bad. All the big company's offer 4g lte the real 4g and we got hspa. Fake 4g. It feels like 3g at best. T-Mobile starting to charge for tethering and raised the price on plans. I started to think me and my Verizon friend pay almost the same a month for unlimited plans. I try my best to defend T-Mobile but I have nothing to brag about prices as high as the other companies which was the reason I been here so long . We don't get nearly as many good android phones as other. T-Mobile put out almost the same phones two months after they release a new phone example. I bought a Samsung vibrant then they come out with a galaxy s. Same phone but that had a Ffc . I buy the sensation then they conme out with the amaze. Same Damn phone with a different camera. Recently I saw a phone called the blaze, which is just the galaxy s 2 with a smaller screen. Just wondering if anyone else is thinking about leaving T-Mobile . Why we pay extra for 4g when we are not getting 4g. T-Mobile should market it as 3.5g with 4g speed at times. Im surprised no one sued them yet.
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I had T-Mobile for over six years and threw the years service had gotten bad. All the big company's offer 4g lte the real 4g and we got hspa. Fake 4g. It feels like 3g at best. T-Mobile starting to charge for tethering and raised the price on plans. I started to think me and my Verizon friend pay almost the same a month for unlimited plans. I try my best to defend T-Mobile but I have nothing to brag about prices as high as the other companies which was the reason I been here so long . We don't get nearly as many good android phones as other. T-Mobile put out almost the same phones two months after they release a new phone example. I bought a Samsung vibrant then they come out with a galaxy s. Same phone but that had a Ffc . I buy the sensation then they conme out with the amaze. Same Damn phone with a different camera. Recently I saw a phone called the blaze, which is just the galaxy s 2 with a smaller screen. Just wondering if anyone else is thinking about leaving T-Mobile . Why we pay extra for 4g when we are not getting 4g. T-Mobile should market it as 3.5g with 4g speed at times. Im surprised no one sued them yet.
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That is because they can't sue. Nothing guarentees you will received 4G speeds at all times.
I have considered leaving them as well but stay with them for a multitude of reasons.
1 - Affordable
2 - For what I use my phone for (Mostly Data and Texts not so much talk) they do fine
3 - If I go over 2GB because I stream DI.FM a lot they don't charge me $10 bucks when I go over.
4 - Verizon is too expensive for what I get, ATT isn't much better, and the service for Sprint here sucks

Definitely prefer tmob over the rip offs of the other carriers.

I get 12-13 Mb/s in Houston/Mission bend area.
Sounds pretty fast to me considering I can download 100mb in about 2 minutes.

I would be shocked if a member of XDA actually pays for tethering, regardless of carrier. If so they need their member card revoked for not reading any of the threads.
I have T-mo and I get 7-10mb downloads typically so I'm very happy with my speeds. I tether my G-tab and laptop regularly without issue or extra expense.
I rarely have dropped calls but they happen. I'm not sure any carrier is immune no matter what they say.
I do believe VZ will have better service, but since it's marginal for my situation I'm sticking with T-Mo.
Everyone's situation is different. A good example is I had no need for a FFC on the Vibrant. It's probably one of the best phones I've ever owned. Also great to learn rooting on since it's very hard to brick. Amazing phone. My brother didn't get the S2 because it's humongous so I may recommend the Blaze if it's the same.

Tmobile = GANGSTAAA
tmobile has cheap prices and the new phone thing is just bad luck on ur end lol
prices are awesome! i dont care i we dont have real 4G i care how fast it is if its faster than real 4g i dont care if its 2g but its fast lol

http://www.moneycrashers.com/how-i-got-out-of-my-t-mobile-contract-and-saved-200/. Hope this could help you, I'm trying to get out of my contract too. It makes no sense to pay for a service that is not being received.
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First, HSPA+ IS 4G. As much as LTE is 4G. If you're looking at HSPA, that is 3G. Second, I bet you could put a phone like the Amaze with its 42 mbps radio up against most anything else... if you were in the top market for both (HSPA+ 42 vs. LTE). Hey, my Sensation with a tiny 14.4 radio can out do LTE in the right location.
But hey, if Tmo is no longer the company for you, feel free to choose another carrier. That's the beauty of competition.

My last phone was an AT&T iPhone, so I know all about slow mobile internet. HSPA+ is at least slightly better in my area, but not by much. I'm on contract so I haven't really considered leaving, but maybe I'll think about it some more when commitment is up... In 2013.
No LTE does suck, but ah well.

HTC evo 4g lte vs Hox

Which is a better package deal? Sprints data services blows if not in a 4g area or WiFi, but their variant of the one x seems to be what at&ts model should of been, plus it adds goodies we don't have
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It seems like you should get what works better in your area for coverage. It's all preference. But I can tell you that this phone is the best one on the market as of right now.
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I love this phone. Blazing fast. And it is gorgeous. I saw the new evo lte and it looks hideous. Sorry but I can't stand having an ugly phone lol. Just my personal preference. Now do I wish we had an sd card? Absolutely.
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Sprint's flavor is definitely a better phone. Are you okay with their coverage? Do you prefer the looks of one over the other?

I have been reading this forum for a few weeks now because I'm getting the new evo and the phones are almost a mirror image in specs. The phone looks fine for me. The expandable storage, extra 200 mah in battery, dedicated camera button and kickstands make it very attractive compared to the att version. I do agree that the phone does not look as good though.
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Lol I do admit the design is no where near as sexy as our hox, I haven't been able to put this thing down lol, coverage is fine in my area, I'm just waiting to see the evo in person, my decision is weighing on what I pay a month, at&t tries to rob u if you let em lol
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One X pros: overall design, data speeds / coverage (depends on area)
EVO LTE pros: Bigger and removable battery, sd card support, kickstand (yes, its a pro trust me)
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I left Sprint knowing all of this.
I have a One X now.
The design was a MAJOR turn off. It's a slap in the face compare to the One X.
Bigger battery didnt mean anything because the One X gets incredible life. Removable SD means nothing because I never removed the one from my Evo 4G. Kickstand is a gimmick, I never used mine. HD Voice only works if you have Sprint and Evo 4G LTE (or capable phone). None of my friends have Sprint, I was the only one, lol, smh. All my friends mix up between AT&T, Tmobile and Verizon.
Oh yeah, having 4G LTE up and running > Sprints waiting game

mike21pr said:
One X pros: overall design, data speeds / coverage (depends on area)
EVO LTE pros: Bigger and removable battery, sd card support, kickstand (yes, its a pro trust me)
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Dedicated camera button
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Sprint seems to always have a great device...
just no coverage area
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I'm always on!

it has a bigger battery because it's going to need it on that CDMA network versus GSM. batteries are typically bigger due to fast drain because of that network. i was a Sprint customer for one year... their service is pretty horrid in my area in comparison to AT&T.

Raadius said:
I left Sprint knowing all of this.
I have a One X now.
The design was a MAJOR turn off. It's a slap in the face compare to the One X.
Bigger battery didnt mean anything because the One X gets incredible life. Removable SD means nothing because I never removed the one from my Evo 4G. Kickstand is a gimmick, I never used mine. HD Voice only works if you have Sprint and Evo 4G LTE (or capable phone). None of my friends have Sprint, I was the only one, lol, smh. All my friends mix up between AT&T, Tmobile and Verizon.
Oh yeah, having 4G LTE up and running > Sprints waiting game
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The kickstand is definitely not a gimmick. It depends on how you use your phone. I have a sling box so I used the kickstand ALL the time when streaming TV.
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Sprint's network is total garbage where I am at. You couldn't pay me to go back. My sub 1mbps speeds with sprint were unacceptable
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I'm facing the same decision and I'm leaning towards going with AT&T and the One X for reasons already mentioned in this thread. I can't deal with Sprint's network. I'll choose AT&T's HSPA+/LTE combo everyday over what Sprint has (and AT&T's greater coverage area).
I'll voice my support for the kickstand however. It has been quite useful on my EVO 4G.

Its all about coverage, I would consider that the single most important thing. For example Im from South Florida, an area with excellent coverage on all services. That being said, a few months ago I switched from sprint to ATT. Sprint data speeds are so slow compared to ATT, and are much less reliable. Sometimes I would get just as quick speeds, but they would jump all the time depending on the area. Google music was useless for me on sprint, because sprint couldnt even stream my songs quick enough for them to play without buffering. That and the fact that my family plan is cheaper on ATT made it a no brainer.
ATT is a much better service, even when you think you have full service on sprint. I wouldn't switch for such negligible differences between phones, unless the storage is really just unacceptable. Dedicated camera is nice, but this thing takes pictures so quick that shake is rarely an issue. And as was said, the battery difference won't be noticeable.

Sprint is going to roll out LTE and better 3g soon. Hopefully they don't let me down like they did with wimax. If it does go well I will have unlimited LTE data
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No doubt the one x is sexy!!!! I just wish at&t didn't tamper with it like they did. Lol they gave us less storage space so we'd be force to use cloud and and streaming sources, to go over our data...lol making more money for them
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huludical said:
Sprint is going to roll out LTE and better 3g soon. Hopefully they don't let me down like they did with wimax. If it does go well I will have unlimited LTE data
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And the end of the world is coming too but no one knows when. I bet sprint won't have their Lte going till mid to end of 2013. I'll switch over then if it's everything they say it will be. Why torture myself so early?
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Honestly. This is the way I see it... I'm not looking at the specs of the phone. Both are great and really comparable.
The biggest issue I think, most people are ignoring, is the LTE. On my EVO I'm getting like 8.5Mbps on WiMax. Not bad! I like it. However. I wouldn't get that speed with the EVO 4G LTE on Sprint (fallback is to 3G not the WiMax). So this phone is actually a downgrade in speed. Personally, I have an issue with this. 2 years later and I'm getting a phone that's going to load web pages slower? Me thinks not.
The real problem is how long it will take Sprint to get the LTE coverage. IF you are in an area with it for the first set of cities they are rolling it out to...Then fine. You're in good shape. Otherwise, unless you're not eligible for an upgrade for a year or something...You're in a bad spot (like me). If you go ahead and upgrade now, the phone you get will be half out of it's life cycle by the time you get LTE. If not completely out. You certainly will be eligible for a new phone upgrade - let's put it that way. That being the case, you didn't get a One X/EVO 4G LTE, you just got a One X/EVO 3G.
IF speed is not a concern for you then you will be looking at differences in the phone...But something tells me that's a very small percentage of users. I love Sprint, but hate to say it... AT&T is likely going to win on this one and again as mentioned, I joined my wife and the family plan is a little cheaper now for me compared to Sprint.
Oh and another gripe I have. $99/mo for unlimited everything....EXCEPT the fine print where it says you also have to pay $10/mo for a "premium" device. I think Sprint should waive this $10/mo fee for the EVO 4G LTE given that you aren't going to be able to use the 4G on it.
edit -- and now I get 25-30Mbps. So 8-10Mbps or whatever to 20-30Mbps is definitely something I would think 2 years worth of technology advances should get me.