Nexus S 4G or keep my thunderbolt? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey everybody ive been thinkn bout switchn to the nexus s 4g, i currently have the thunderbolt for verizon. i know i have to switch to sprint and thats not a problem. the questions i have is should i take the plunge? hows sprints coverage? or should i just wait for the next nexus to come out? and can you all share your pros and cons of your device? thank you all in advance.

I dont have Sprint nor a Nexus s 4g, but I do have a Nexus s on T-Mobile. This is the best phone I've ever owned ... I haven't had any problems with it. Plus stock Android is amazing. I know HTC sense UI has it's pros and its cons but I take stock Android anyday.
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Ok and yes i luv stock android. I am rooted and running CM7 alpha i got rid of sense as soon as i could.
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jr313 said:
Hey everybody ive been thinkn bout switchn to the nexus s 4g, i currently have the thunderbolt for verizon. i know i have to switch to sprint and thats not a problem. the questions i have is should i take the plunge? hows sprints coverage? or should i just wait for the next nexus to come out? and can you all share your pros and cons of your device? thank you all in advance.
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Since I've never used a Thunderbolt, you'll have to take the following with a grain of salt. First, Verizon's coverage is much better than Sprint's coverage. Sprint's 'nationwide' coverage has next to no native coverage in Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, and Nevada. Other areas are more sparse than Verizon as well. However, Sprint has free roaming with 3G speeds (assuming Verizon has 3G in that area). You won't get Sprint services like Sprint Navigation, TV, etc. while roaming (at least I don't think you do).
I had the nexus s 4g for about a month, but ultimately returned it. The only reason I returned it was that I did not have a signal at my workplace. My previous phones have all had pretty poor signal at my work, but the nexus was a just a little worse (enough that it wouldn't receive the majority of calls/text, whereas my older phones would get most of them). The coverage is bad there since it's basically a concrete block and I had no problems anywhere else with the nexus s. The minor things were creaky battery cover (probably just on mine and could have been fixed with a new cover) and no led notification light.
The things I liked were good battery life (even with poor signal at my work), standard google with no sprint branding at all, native hotspot feature works like google intended it to work, the size was really nice, amoled screen looked very good, and the phone was very fast in everything I did. It was also very easy to root and get superuser on (other than needing to move some of the tools in android sdk from 'platform-tools' to 'tools').

They're making a radio update. Should've waited.
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The only thing you might miss is Verizons network. Me and mikeyinid both switched from the Thunderbolt and I can personally say it was the best decision I have made.

O ok. How much better of a phone is it than the TB? I do worry bout the coverage i travel a lot throughout MI and other states as well i drive a truck.
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jr313 said:
O ok. How much better of a phone is it than the TB? I do worry bout the coverage i travel a lot throughout MI and other states as well i drive a truck.
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Look up the sprint map about coverage in the other hand I'll go with the nexus man stock android blows out of the water in speed , I had an evo (thunderbolt brother , practicly with a few updates ) LTE is great tho (where it works )
Ok so I had and Evo with CM7 stable but still some how had bugs , on nexus s I don't have any bugs and I don't even miss 720 p video recording , and I'm happy that I'm getting upsates straight from google , the evo got gingerbread 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 is out and I bet that's probably the last update for evo so not gtalk video chat ... btw I'm in las vegas and I switch from verizon to sprint cheaper service and in my already better service most of the time
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Like mbh87 said, we both came to the NS4G from the Bolt, and while I do miss the awesome service, the Nexus makes it worth it. I have no regrets switching. If your running CM on your bolt then the switch is a no brainer Not to mention your gonna save money with sprint. Don't let them talk you into a big plan. The 69 + 10 dollar for wimax is unlimited mobile to mobile on any network... Very good deal.
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Not to mention Sprint gives discount for almost everything. Check with your employer, bank, etc. I get 10% for being a credit union member, not much but its better than nothing and it got me free activation.

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They're making a radio update. Should've waited.
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If it really improves the signal, I'll just buy it again . I didn't have to pay a restocking fee, so I'm not out anything other than my time spent going to the Sprint store. I'll wait until the Evo 3D and/or the update gets released to make up my mind.

mbh87 said:
Not to mention Sprint gives discount for almost everything. Check with your employer, bank, etc. I get 10% for being a credit union member, not much but its better than nothing and it got me free activation.
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Yup I get 25% because I told them the verizon were giving me that (they were doing 19% ) , so the guy get me 25 % lol
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N00bsploder101 said:
They're making a radio update. Should've waited.
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hey, i was just wondering, do you have a link to that info? i haven't heard of anything about it, but would be awesome if they did.
to the op, verizon's always gonna have better general coverage than sprint, but if your area has good sprint coverage then it shouldnt really be a problem. also sprint is always gonna be generally cheaper than verizon (not to mention they'll give you a $125 bill credit if you port your verizon number over to the nexus before the end of this month).
As far as the nexus s 4g goes, man its smooth like butter the combination of hardware/software has given me almost zero lag in the UI. but your best bet is to just go test it out at the store.
and the nexus 3, shoot thats a tough call. i was gonna wait for it and not get the ns4g on contract, but im such a big fan of the nexus that im just gonna buy the nexus 3 outright when it comes out and sell this one or possibly keep both (i love it that much).

Thanks for all the info guys! and im goin to be gettn my nexus s 4g SOON as i get rid of this bolt, yous swayed me with all the good reviews! then i took the advice of goin to play with it hands on and man its crazy smooth and fast and thats even without bn rooted and oc'd, man i can only imagine. thank you all for bn cool enuff to help a brotha out, i shall be hangn out with yous very soon.

Don't buy the Evo3d btw.
Wait for the nexus 3.
The main advantages the nexus s has over the thunderbolt is the cpu and gpu, and screen of course.

jr313 said:
Thanks for all the info guys! and im goin to be gettn my nexus s 4g SOON as i get rid of this bolt, yous swayed me with all the good reviews! then i took the advice of goin to play with it hands on and man its crazy smooth and fast and thats even without bn rooted and oc'd, man i can only imagine. thank you all for bn cool enuff to help a brotha out, i shall be hangn out with yous very soon.
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Well let us know when you get it and if you got the thunderbolt rooted it will be a piece of cake to do this one
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They're making a radio update. Should've waited.
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all hearsay, nothing is confirmed. i too returned mine and bought a new evo. feels good to have a decent signal for a change.

dario3040 said:
Don't buy the Evo3d btw.
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the evo3d is ok but id wait to see if comes locked or not.

fixxxer2008 said:
all hearsay, nothing is confirmed. i too returned mine and bought a new evo. feels good to have a decent signal for a change.
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Lol
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Well considering sprint has the largest voice coverage in the US, switching to Sprint isn't a bad way to go if you are looking for good voice coverage.
Verizon has better 3G coverage though, and better 4G coverage.
Overall, my only issue with the nexus s 4g (vs. my old evo) is the wifi antenna is not as good. While the bars jump around much more than the evo, I get similar performance/coverage.
If fast data speeds are very important to you, verizon is probably a better bet. If you just need data connection to grab emails, use google navigation, etc, sprint works great.

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Jealous of Sprint new EVO?

Okay so i just left Sprint for Verizon to get the thunderbolt and was royally pissed off lol, but now i'm not. Okay, so i been on the fence contemplating going back to Sprint and decided not to. When i had my EVO (which i still do waiting to sell it), the support it got was amazing, but my 3g on it was sub-par. I live in New York, and i was seriously getting horrid connection. I even thought about all the graphic power the new one is getting, but then i said to myself "half the games in the market don't even use all that power", so isn't it redundant to desire such a powerful phone with so many games work fine on the thunderbolt? I mean, i sound like i'm trying to justify my switch, but just thinking out loud for anyone who feels the same as me. And what up with all the hate on the thunderbolt by Evo users? I thought the Android community was suppose to be together, some of them sound like whining Apple fanbois.
That's how it happens. It's called "latest technology". I argued with my girlfriends mom for about an hour.....
about why Apple aint ****.
I am not jealous of the new EVO. The reason is two. First I have a moto xoom, so I have a powerful device with a screen big enough to enjoy the power. Second, like you said, is that Sprint is crap. I would have said the opposite a week ago, but I would have been in denial .
The EVO was better than the iPhone 2g/3g/3gs' and Sprint was better than AT&T that I had had for the 3 years prior. As such I was happy with the phone, which was somewhat crippled by the sprint network. The biggest thing I hated about Sprint, was they were INCONSISTENT. Didn't matter if it was peak or off-peak hours everytime I grabbed the phone I had no way of knowing if it would give me an efficient or inefficient experience. In the car I used a Wilson Sleek signal booster which made things like streaming over Pandora or Slacker consistent, but it's a cradle so its not idea for much more than that.
The thunderbird thus far has proven to be a better phone than the old EVO, but more importantly it seems to have hardware that works well on the network. Anyone with an EVO even in a strong 4G area can attest to the 30+ seconds it takes to get a 4G connection, and how it never seemed to come back if the connection in the area was less than idea. The one time so far that my EVO went to 3G, it went back to 4G almost immediately. I live in North Las Vegas, but my part of town has not been the Boonies for 20 years.
In summation. Even if Sprint "does it again" and releases a super friggin awesome phone, as the EVO was, it wont make up for their less than ideal network. Sprint is not bad per se, they just aren't great.
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That's how it happens. It's called "latest technology". I argued with my girlfriends mom for about an hour.....
about why Apple aint ****.
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Lol
There is always going to ne something better on the horizon that's I upgrade every 6 months or so ;op
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There is always going to ne something better on the horizon that's I upgrade every 6 months or so ;op
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Well of course i know that, just bummed as soon as i jumped ship they release this haha. The obvious, of course, is that we will get something similar also, but just wanted to speak my mind for those who feel like me. I focused more on the specs in the original post, but i was also curious why almost every website i got on about the thunderbolt you have some uptight mad Evo user bashing it, quite comical and sad at the same time.
@setite the 4g on sprint was horrid, especially indoors.
I too left Sprint (of 5 plus years) for the TB... I am jealous of the Sprint's new EVO, but not their 2.5 GHz WIMAX.. If hey get their 800MHz frequency up and running with LTE or even move WIMAX there or maybe even WIMAX 2, then I shall return
sprint is ****, friend has an evo, we just compared phones and speeds... no competition with their "4G" if they can even call it that
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Zerotwistknife7 said:
sprint is ****, friend has an evo, we just compared phones and speeds... no competition with their "4G" if they can even call it that
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lol, look at this and see what i mean:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-view-4g-confirms-sprint-bound-motorola-xoom/
Comment by Richard Yarrell March 19, 2011 at 1:43 am :
This makes the verizon thunderbolt look like a STEP CHILD… Verizon wanted to have a hand me down product they got it. Everyone knows htc doesn’t do business with Verizon never and they got exactly what they wanted last year’s evo but the funny part is our current 10month old htc evo 4g is still better there isn’t even a toggle 4g switch on there device it just keeps runing and too top it off there bootloader is locked another verizon trick. Evo owners on sprint REJOICE we have truly a WINNER in every way our 2011 lineup has all 4g devices and all the newly announced devices are running 2.3.3ginerbread straight out the box not 2.2 froyo like the thunderbolt and all other verizon products… Welcome our new KING OF ANDROID http://www.androidcentral.com/
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I think that Verizon needs to be closer with HTC or even SAMSUNG , instead of MOTOROLA
i love how it says the bootloader is locked when it isn't
asenduk said:
I think that Verizon needs to be closer with HTC or even SAMSUNG , instead of MOTOROLA
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verizon needs to get away from samsung i love my fascinate but samsung is sooooo bad with customer service since officially we are still on 2.1 but thanks to the devs i have froyo
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lol, look at this and see what i mean:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-view-4g-confirms-sprint-bound-motorola-xoom/
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LOL wow big ego much? it still took them time to root and unlock their phones too...
I doubt it was anywhere as fast as AndIRC did it, first night=root, second night=unlock bootloader/custom recovery
If that's not a record or something, I'd be suprised...
Nice hardware is useless when the service is useless. I've been a Sprint customer forever but lately their 3G is useless and 4G coverage is spotty and slower than when it was first rolled out. The HTC Thunderbolt hardware is no comparison to Samsung Epic 4G, mainly AMOLED screen/CPU/GPU performance, but the superior LTE connectivity makes the hardware inferiority a small compromise.
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Nice hardware is useless when the service is useless. I've been a Sprint customer forever but lately their 3G is useless and 4G coverage is spotty and slower than when it was first rolled out. The HTC Thunderbolt hardware, mainly AMOLED screen/CPU/GPU performance, is no comparison to Samsung Epic 4G but the superior LTE connectivity makes the hardware inferiority a small compromise.
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Amazingly accurate response.
mi7chy said:
Nice hardware is useless when the service is useless. I've been a Sprint customer forever but lately their 3G is useless and 4G coverage is spotty and slower than when it was first rolled out. The HTC Thunderbolt hardware is no comparison to Samsung Epic 4G, mainly AMOLED screen/CPU/GPU performance, but the superior LTE connectivity makes the hardware inferiority a small compromise.
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+1
I will never go back to Sprint ever after they treated me terribly when I complained about getting 1x speeds in the city of Chicago outdoors in an area marked "best indoor 4g coverage" on their map. With Verizon I get 4g anywhere indoors and don't have to stick my head and arm way out the window to get decent data speeds. And on Sprint the decent data speeds are literally 400kbps. see thread "data speeds, wtf?" in the Evo general forum.
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I'm a longtime sprint drone...since nextel I1000 lol
I'm about ready to make the jump. I love my EVO but the data is very spotty, sometimes decent 5-6MB DL but quite often less than 1/2 meg. I live in a 4G city too.
Price is getting closer too. I have 3 smart devices...
Sprint
130- 2 lines everything data 1500
20- extra line
30- 10 per line for smarty
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180 but I get 25% off the 130 for corp discount
150 = Bottom line plus taxes
Red
with my corp discount 18%~
110 2 lines talk/text 1400
10 3rd line
72 3 x24 data packs
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192 + taxes
I'm very close to jumping ship.
Any carriers service varies by location that is self evident.
Another thing that is self evident is that the new evo is a BEAST!
There's no denying the hardware is amazing
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LoveisPeace2012 said:
Any carriers service varies by location that is self evident.
Another thing that is self evident is that the new evo is a BEAST!
There's no denying the hardware is amazing
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Yes it is. Just hope we don't have no android civil war ,because it seems that way with certain people.
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I miss my g2x and t mobile

My job decided to get me a company phone and start paying the bill, but only problem is, they use sprint. So, I had them get me the new evo 3d. I've always been a fan of t mobile and their network, but hey, I'm saving 100a month. Well, got my new phone setup, and must say, sprint is a lot slower than t mobile is, and the phone is kind of a let down. The 3d is cool, but I can't stand sense at all. Plus quadrant scores are lower.
I know we have been getting a lot of I hate my g2x, but I miss mine already. Plus, not a fan of a locked boot loader. Just wanted to share some g2x love.
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Plus 1 on this. I got the sensation and although it was great at first, it slowly turned into a nightmare and I missed the g2x bad. So, back to the g2x and couldn't be happier..
Sorry you are missing it as the 3d is basically the sensation.. I love my g2x and got another on the way for my girl..
DUDE!!! walk into your boss' office punch him in the face, demand they switch over to tmobile then tell em EXACTLY what your avi means and pose just like it!!!!
Hahaha. man, I wish I could. Only other network they use is att, but they suck too. sprint network speeds blow - plus 4g coverage is terrible. Ah, I hate sense. It's terrible. The phone is snappy, and the 3d pictures and movies is cool, but will probably get old. The g2x seems to handle video's better. Man, the grass is never greener. You guys should be happy you have a beast for a phone. If I had a choice, I'd be back in a heart beat. ...but, I basically got a100 a month raise, and a free phone, but I have to pay cancellation charges.
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My employer's carrier is AT&T so they pay my bill for 2 lines and I got a free Infuse. In my area data speeds are just slightly slower than Tmo but the Infuse is a wicked device.
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Hahaha. man, I wish I could. Only other network they use is att, but they suck too. sprint network speeds blow - plus 4g coverage is terrible. Ah, I hate sense. It's terrible. The phone is snappy, and the 3d pictures and movies is cool, but will probably get old. The g2x seems to handle video's better. Man, the grass is never greener. You guys should be happy you have a beast for a phone. If I had a choice, I'd be back in a heart beat. ...but, I basically got a100 a month raise, and a free phone, but I have to pay cancellation charges.
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Dude if they use at&t then pick up a G2x and use it on at&t
Granted the data may be a little slower because frequencies are different but at least you'd have the real deal.
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Dude if they use at&t then pick up a G2x and use it on at&t
Granted the data may be a little slower because frequencies are different but at least you'd have the real deal.
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3G nor 4G will work on AT&T.. the phone's advertising was wrong. It does not support those bands for AT&T.
The g2x is great in terms of hardware. But LG just fails to provide good software support. Wasted hardware really.
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My company just gives me $50/mnth extra to pay for any work related cell phone use and I pick my phone and carrier.
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derekedw said:
My company just gives me $50/mnth extra to pay for any work related cell phone use and I pick my phone and carrier.
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I wish that was the case, but they pay the entire bill, unlimited everything, and for some reason, they use sprint. I can't stand Sprint download speeds. They are pitiful. Avg for me so far has been .5-2 mb/s, while my tmobile was about 3-7mb/s. That's quite the drastic drop.
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I can't stand Sprint download speeds. They are pitiful. Avg for me so far has been .5-2 mb/s, while my tmobile was about 3-7mb/s. That's quite the drastic drop.
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+1 That's why I left them.
dougstoner said:
My job decided to get me a company phone and start paying the bill, but only problem is, they use sprint. So, I had them get me the new evo 3d. I've always been a fan of t mobile and their network, but hey, I'm saving 100a month. Well, got my new phone setup, and must say, sprint is a lot slower than t mobile is, and the phone is kind of a let down. The 3d is cool, but I can't stand sense at all. Plus quadrant scores are lower.
I know we have been getting a lot of I hate my g2x, but I miss mine already. Plus, not a fan of a locked boot loader. Just wanted to share some g2x love.
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Tell your boss that your looking for the best deal for the company and that switching to T-mobile you can save the company money while getting the phone and service you want. T-mobile business is UTTW for $44.99 per line.
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3G nor 4G will work on AT&T.. the phone's advertising was wrong. It does not support those bands for AT&T.
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Where did you see this advertising? I'd like to see it.
EDIT: I mean something where LG said it was quadband. Not Tmobile.
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Where did you see this advertising? I'd like to see it.
EDIT: I mean something where LG said it was quadband. Not Tmobile.
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There were multiple threads when the phone first came out. People were angry that they wouldn't be able to use 3G/4G on AT&T with the phone.
I believe the incorrect advertising was on T-Mobile's end.
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I was with T-Mobile for 8 years up until I switched to Sprint last fall as I got a job with them and free service. Hard, T-Mobile was always awesome with data and their hspa + upgrade in denver was amazing.I had nexus one at the time, which wasn't an hspa + device but I still pulled 5mbps on 70ping in many places. On Sprint, I couldn't even stream Pandora at my gym! Since then, I moved but issues were still there, from service disruptions to data drops, to speeds capping at 300kbps and 4g being pretty damn awful and a battery kill. Just now couldn't take it anymore and dropped to buy g2x with the online sale lol.
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Dude if they use at&t then pick up a G2x and use it on at&t
Granted the data may be a little slower because frequencies are different but at least you'd have the real deal.
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Calling 2G (Edge) a "little" slower than 3G or 4G is the understatement of the year
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My employer's carrier is AT&T so they pay my bill for 2 lines and I got a free Infuse. In my area data speeds are just slightly slower than Tmo but the Infuse is a wicked device.
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I can't wait for the Hercules. Its pretty much a Infuse with a dual core CPU. Nobody knows for sure which dual core it will be but I've seen speculation that it will be a Qualcomm. Then again, everyone speculated everyone's SGSII to look the same since we saw cases on a website but we all know that speculation was wrong since ATT'S is a slider. Hell, the Hercules might not eveb have a 4.5 inch screen at this point since everyone was totally wrong on saying ATT, Verizon and Sprints would be the same form factor as the European version.
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I'm telling you, their 4g service is a joke. I can never find it, and if I do, I can never get above 2.5 mb. There 3g is a joke, and I have to use wifi. I absolutely hate their service, and their customer service sucks too. Only reason I'll stay with them, I'm getting a full free ride. I might see if I can eventually switch to att, since the big wigs at my company use them for their iphones. I'd never get an iphone, of course. Guys, you are lucky to have your download speeds. I called their customer service, and told them I was getting pour speeds compared to t mobile, and she asked me, what's the benefit of faster download speeds anyway! Seriously! I hung up.
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I was with T-Mobile for 8 years up until I switched to Sprint last fall as I got a job with them and free service. Hard, T-Mobile was always awesome with data and their hspa + upgrade in denver was amazing.I had nexus one at the time, which wasn't an hspa + device but I still pulled 5mbps on 70ping in many places. On Sprint, I couldn't even stream Pandora at my gym! Since then, I moved but issues were still there, from service disruptions to data drops, to speeds capping at 300kbps and 4g being pretty damn awful and a battery kill. Just now couldn't take it anymore and dropped to buy g2x with the online sale lol.
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Lol yea I know how it goes, its crazy down there and my buddy who lives in Georgia is on sprint as well, he's been having same issues as me for the past few months. During off hours I could get 2mbps down some places, while still not get any data downtown Denver.... 4g is always one bar Max, unless I am at my store, and it literally drops signal like no other, no point in even wasting my battery on keeping my wimax antenna on... even if I do get 2mbps its still way slow compared to T-Mobile, ping of 300 really does make it seem even slower as well.
I went to the gym tonight and got my buddy there to download speed test on his g2, was during peak hours. He got 6mbps down while I couldn't even open Facebook lol.
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I'm telling you, their 4g service is a joke. I can never find it, and if I do, I can never get above 2.5 mb. There 3g is a joke, and I have to use wifi. I absolutely hate their service, and their customer service sucks too. Only reason I'll stay with them, I'm getting a full free ride. I might see if I can eventually switch to att, since the big wigs at my company use them for their iphones. I'd never get an iphone, of course. Guys, you are lucky to have your download speeds. I called their customer service, and told them I was getting pour speeds compared to t mobile, and she asked me, what's the benefit of faster download speeds anyway! Seriously! I hung up.
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International One X vs AT&T One X? Any advice from people with both phones?

I currently Have a ATT HTC One X back ordered on Amazon. While waiting it got me thinking maybe I should just grab the international version instead. Im so confused on what to do. Paying full price is not really a problem because it will just save my upgrade. Also I dont have LTE in my area yet, and even when it did come I think I would be fine with 4-6 mbs that HSPA provides. The main reason I want the INT is because of the extra storage space. Ive heard the CPUs are about the same (maybe S4 even being a little quicker). Hows the battery life on both? Is there any other factors or differences I am over looking. Any input from some one with both phones would be great! Thanks.
PeterHTC has done an excellent writeup on this topic, and tons of subsequent discussion by other members on that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609878
Do you already have AT&T service? Your Sprint logo avator is confusing.
Thanks for the link, reading it now. Ya I am on sprint now until I get my One X. Was about to call and cancel my service the day before it was going to ship but then it got back ordered. Glad I didn't yet lol. Either way I am switching soon, either going to get INT version or just bite the $50 bullet and go get one from AT&T or Best Buy.
My 2 cents.
I had the Intl One X on release and it was very buggy.
To the point that I sold it in a week and stayed on my iPhone until the ATT version came out.
The ATT version is rock sold over the Intl version, but I'm really missing the extra storage.
If there were new software updates on the Intl version that fixed all the issues I might swap back, yes I do have LTE were I live and yes its super fast, but what I do on my phone doesn't really require a 20 mb download. I'd like to store ripped videos for travel and not rely so much on streaming which you have to do on the ATT One X.
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Ya I am on sprint now until I get my One X.
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Reason I ask, do you know for a fact that you will have decent HSPA+ speed on AT&T where you need it? My house is supposed to be in a 4G HSPA+ coverage zone. But I was getting dismal data speeds often around 0.2 to 0.5 Mbps, and maybe 1 Mbps at best. Now on LTE, I get 27 Mbps in the same location.
At my work, I was usually getting from 3 to 5 Mbps on HSPA+. Not bad, and just fine for most things. But the HSPA+ at my house were near useless sometimes.
Why wouldn't you just get Evo LTE? It has a bigger battery and a sd card slot!
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Why wouldn't you just get Evo LTE? It has a bigger battery and a sd card slot!
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It's sprint... nuff said
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Everybody says they're fine with hspa+ until they actually experience LTE speeds. When I went back home too Houston and was consistently getting over 44Mbps down, I was literally blown away. It's that much of a difference.
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My international phone arrived today. I think I'm returning it. Staying with a US model and its warranty seems safer.
Ya sprint sucks man. Horrible data speeds. Also IMO Evo 4glte is super ugly.
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My international phone arrived today. I think I'm returning it. Staying with a US model and its warranty seems safer.
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Interesting, care to explain the reasons? I had an opportunity to trade 1 for 1 with a international version so I'm curious.
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Just the security of knowing I can get a warranty replacement from att if I need it.
For gaming: International
For everything else: AT&T HOX
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Why wouldn't you just get Evo LTE? It has a bigger battery and a sd card slot!
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I was thinking the EVO 4G LTE for those same reasons, but apparently the battery life is just OK. It proves yet again that hardware specs mean nothing if Carriers screw up the firmware. What other explanation could there be for poor battery life, other than CDMA uses alot more battery than GSM?
I just switched from sprint to the att one x and its wayyyyyyy better!!! And the speeds are way better! I was happy to get 6 down and today I got an lte signal (live in cleveland not official) and I got 50 down outside and 35 inside my house which is better then the .035 from sprint lol
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I was thinking the EVO 4G LTE for those same reasons, but apparently the battery life is just OK. It proves yet again that hardware specs mean nothing if Carriers screw up the firmware. What other explanation could there be for poor battery life, other than CDMA uses alot more battery than GSM?
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You said it CDMA drains battery faster thats why they prob put the bigger battery in there. No sd card and only 16 GB of internal (actually even less lol) will suck but ill get used to it. The pros of the phone outways the cons. Pretty sure Im just gonna stick with the Att HOX.
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My international phone arrived today. I think I'm returning it. Staying with a US model and its warranty seems safer.
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LOL, so the grass isn't any greener over there?
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My international phone arrived today. I think I'm returning it. Staying with a US model and its warranty seems safer.
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Lol...you're all over the place man
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You people act like you never changed your minds about something.
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You people act like you never changed your minds about something.
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No im glad you said that that pretty much made up my mind on getting the ATT version
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Thinking about coming to the dark side..

What's up One X peeps? I am currently with Sprint on a Galaxy S2 in the Bristol, Tn area. Not so great of service and it is only 3g coverage for Sprint here so far(no plans in the future to add LTE here as far as I know...which is stupid because the race track is sponsored by Sprint and yet they have the worst service in the area duhuh..)...aaanyway, I am considering AT&T because I can pay a little extra and have 4g almost anywhere I go in the Tri Cities. So I am torn between the S3 and the One X. I have had Sense phones and touchwiz phones so I am really asking if anyone would care to share what they love about their One X and why they chose it over the S3. They are both remarkable but I am honestly leaning toward the One X because it is different in an appealing kind of way. I am just an average user other than rooting every phone I get my hands on. Browsing, texting, listening to music with headphones, email, etc. I had a Nexus S 4G before the S2 and a Hero before that. I have loved all of my phones but I kind of want something different right now. It also helps that the One X is on sale for $99 until September.
Funny you mentioned the race track, I'm right by Pocono and there is no lte either lol, oh wait there's no service at all by the SPRINT sponsored race track! Lolol. So glad I'm on att now
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DO IT. I was with Sprint for 5 years, and ever since they got the iPhone my 3G speeds were simply atrocious. How good is having unlimited data when you're pulling 0.5mbps down(on a good day)? And I'm in a network vision completed area! The difference really is night and day, and so damn worth it.
Also, battery life on the One X with LTE is better than my EVO 4G, EVO 3D and Galaxy Nexus ever had on 3G... TIMES TWO. I've left my phone unplugged for eight hours when going to bed, to wake up and find out it only used 2% battery. ON LTE.
There really is no contest here. It's even worth paying an ETF. I sold my (mint condition) Galaxy Nexus on ebay for $350 and paid my ETF with that.
Good luck!
I was a Sprint customer for a decade and finally got fed up with their data speeds. What's the point of unlimited data if you can't even use it? After a brief trial with Verizon, I made the move to AT&T in January and couldn't be happier. The HOX is an absolute beast of a phone and coupled with AT&T's blazing LTE speeds (and even their fast-enough HSPA+ when LTE isn't available) it's pretty much unstoppable. I had heard horror stories about AT&T's customer service before coming over here but my experience with them has been nothing but positive, and I have tested the patience of more than a handful of AT&T reps since making the move. They are friendly, somewhat knowledgeable, they do try to help as best they can, and best of all- they are incredibly easy to manipulate. Do it man, you'll be glad you did.
The main reason I left sprint was due to the horrible 3G speeds. You know how bad it feels to see buffering every 5 seconds on sprint watching youtube? The slowest speed I've got on ATT was 6mbps, thats more than enough for anything I need to do. Sprint, I was barely able to do 0.5mpbs with full bars, pathetic.
Good bye Sprint, You won't ever see me again. I'm paying $10 more a month, but its we'll worth it.
Yeah, I am thinking it is going to be worth the transfer. It doesnt seem too crazy to get root and unlock the bootloader from what I have read so I am sure I can manage. The only work arpund I will have to find is the storage but dropbox is offering the 25gb space still if I am not mistaken.
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Yeah, I am thinking it is going to be worth the transfer. It doesnt seem too crazy to get root and unlock the bootloader from what I have read so I am sure I can manage. The only work arpund I will have to find is the storage but dropbox is offering the 25gb space still if I am not mistaken.
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The latest firmware version (2.20) is not currently rootable, although its being worked on. No root also means no bootloader unlock. It seems that based on reports here, a lot of newly purchased One X's have 2.20 pre-installed. Maybe you can find a store with some older stock (1.73 and 1.85 are okay). But if you need root and unlocked BL right now, be aware when buying.
Also, I think AT&T stopped supporting the Dropbox promotion a while ago.
I'd recommend the secondary market vs buying a new one at this point.
Att gave me a $175 trade on my Epic 4G touch when I came from sprint a month ago...best decision I made in a long time.
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come on over! I honestly don't know how people put up with Sprint's data speeds. Also, I don't have any complaints with AT&T except I'm patiently waiting for LTE in Denver (HSPA+ is good enough, but why put up with "good enough" ). I've been with the company since their Cingular days and won't be going anywhere for a while (unless I jump over to Straight Talk to save some $$)
The S3 has better hardware specs but the HOX is better looking.
Basically it comes down to sd card/more ram/removable battery vs better screen and build quality.
IMO the S3 is ugly as sin, with a dated, pedestrian design (seriously, a physical home button?). But some people like it.
If you're a power user you may be better off with the S3 because of the better multitasking (more ram) and storage space. If looks and design matter to you, go with the HOX.
I came from iOS, so the sd card slot and battery were not really a big deal, while the design was.
AT&T's coverage is not as big as Verizon's but the data speeds are nice. Their customer service has always been pretty good on most issues (exceptions being the various things they like to lock down--but Verizon has always been far worse about that anyway).
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What's up One X peeps? I am currently with Sprint on a Galaxy S2 in the Bristol, Tn area. Not so great of service and it is only 3g coverage for Sprint here so far(no plans in the future to add LTE here as far as I know...which is stupid because the race track is sponsored by Sprint and yet they have the worst service in the area duhuh..)...aaanyway, I am considering AT&T because I can pay a little extra and have 4g almost anywhere I go in the Tri Cities. So I am torn between the S3 and the One X. I have had Sense phones and touchwiz phones so I am really asking if anyone would care to share what they love about their One X and why they chose it over the S3. They are both remarkable but I am honestly leaning toward the One X because it is different in an appealing kind of way. I am just an average user other than rooting every phone I get my hands on. Browsing, texting, listening to music with headphones, email, etc. I had a Nexus S 4G before the S2 and a Hero before that. I have loved all of my phones but I kind of want something different right now. It also helps that the One X is on sale for $99 until September.
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Nexus
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Nexus
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if you want a year old device and pentile....nexus.
if you want up to date hardware and a fawking amazing screen..HOX
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ptesmoke said:
if you want a year old device and pentile....nexus.
if you want up to date hardware and a fawking amazing screen..HOX
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U know how ppl who have sprint deal with the horrid speeds? by never experiencing good speeds..lol..I've never saw over a mb/s unless on my airave or WiFi....I don't even attempt doing stuff when I'm out and about that requires more than minimal bandwidth..but I'm in the early 2nd round of network vision so hopefully that will change ..if 6mb/s is slow for you then I'm jealous..can't imagine u need much more than that for anything..YouTube app still buffers for me on WiFi when playing hd content..and its 20 down..anyone else have that issue ?
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U know how ppl who have sprint deal with the horrid speeds? by never experiencing good speeds..lol..I've never saw over a mb/s unless on my airave or WiFi....I don't even attempt doing stuff when I'm out and about that requires more than minimal bandwidth..but I'm in the early 2nd round of network vision so hopefully that will change ..if 6mb/s is slow for you then I'm jealous..can't imagine u need much more than that for anything..YouTube app still buffers for me on WiFi when playing hd content..and its 20 down..anyone else have that issue ?
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What does "buffers" mean?
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The LTE service that I get is so fast, there is ZERO difference from WiFi, and can even be faster in some cases. When I start watching a video on youtube and switch to HD, it starts playing immediately. I can't even begin to explain how much faster it is compared to even Sprint's solid WiMAX service here in Boston.
Speaking of WiMAX, LTE on AT&T runs at 700mhz, so LTE signals penetrate buildings even better than 3G and voice if you can believe it. I remember with WiMAX my signal would drop if I stepped over a shadow.
And while I've seen bursts of up to 60mbps(I kid you not), It's the insanely low ping times(about 30ms) that make you feel like you're using WiFi.
I think I will go for it. It will cost probably $10-20 mpre a month because pf the discpunt I get with Sprint through my bank...but again, I am tired of waiting for service and having to constantly roam with roamcontrol just to make a phone call in my apartment. I will try to get time to give more thanks later. I believe I talked myself into it earlier today. Design and feel mean a lot to me. And if those Apple fanbois are happy with no removable battery or sd card then I can manage too lol. Thank you all for your input!
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What does "buffers" mean?
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It's pretty much is what I get to see while attempting to watch any video content LOL..
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If you want amazing dev nexus if you want bad aosp dev due to att being good one x
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Thank the iPhone 5 for our Bad/Spoty Data

Just a little insight from a VZW "Person"
Our Spotty 4G seems to be in a direct correlation with the iPhone/idont 5 coming out.
Ever since the first couple days after the launch of the iPhone 5 we've all experienced data drops, spotty 4G and sometimes almost an unbelievably long time stuck in 3G.
I have a GS3 and fortunately a folder with a bunch of different "modems/radios" however, until I found what "modem" (as they call it for the sammys) worked best, I was just like you Tbolt peeps. Angry as all hell that the iPhone came out with LTE and causing these issues. Especially when half or more of the people that got it, don't even know what real 4G is and they're raining on our parade!
I get to listen to it every day now from my GF. Her Tbolt that I hooked up and gave her was effing amazing three weeks ago. Now... it just drops and hangs data way more than my GS3.
That's why I got on XDA tonight. To see if there were any new radios (as us HTC people call em) out and about. No luck thus far, but I wanted to share some knowledge with the community as to the cause of all this mess. Thanks a lot Apple!
Your over popular smartphone for dumb people is not only an over rated joke of a phone for sheeple, but its taking connectivity away from our awesome (slightly older 4G phones) that most likely won't be getting any more radio updates. This is probably why my GS3 isn't too bad right now (knock on wood) because of the newer modems still coming out.
Ever get double texts or have friends with really freaking slow 3G Droids??
We can thank the idont 4 and 4s for that as well. They over saturated the 3G market which Verizon is not putting another DIME into. So unfortunately Tbolt users and other "older pioneer 4G devices", looks like unless there are new radio leaks, we're kinda SOL.
So there you have it...
Now find that friend of yours that has an idont 5 and thank them for stepping on our toes and our precious 4G on the pioneer phones.
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The reason at&t dropped unlimited so fast is because they saturated the market with the iPhone3 and 3gs which destroyed their bandwidth. When the 4 and 4s came out it became even worse. I have tired calling Verizon almost since launch day only trying to get a new sim and I can't even get through.
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The reason at&t dropped unlimited so fast is because they saturated the market with the iPhone3 and 3gs which destroyed their bandwidth. When the 4 and 4s came out it became even worse. I have tired calling Verizon almost since launch day only trying to get a new sim and I can't even get through.
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New SIM won't help my friend
PM me if ya have any questions.
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The launch of the iPhone 5 was good for one thing...a plethora of Droid phones on eBay for cheap! Just got a razr for 200 bucks thanks isheep lol
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I remember reading that they only have a life of around 6 months which means I'm past due for a change out.
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I've been considering reactivating my Nexus One or G2 with T-Mobile now that they offer unlimited data too. I think its a blessing that they don't have the iPhone. Less phones means less stress on their network. At least most iPhone 5 users don't have unlimited data.
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I bet it won't be long before they get it too. Hell sprint almost bankrupted itself just to get it. They paid apple almost $2billion dollars to get it.
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dopediculous said:
Just a little insight from a VZW "Person"
Our Spotty 4G seems to be in a direct correlation with the iPhone/idont 5 coming out.
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Considering the drops occurred long before VZW had an LTE-capable iPhone, I'd be skeptical of any technical information you receive from this "person".
hallstevenson said:
Considering the drops occurred long before VZW had an LTE-capable iPhone, I'd be skeptical of any technical information you receive from this "person".
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I AM the "person" I wasnt trying to throw myself out there about such a hot/negative topic that involved my career. I'll just go with its "free speech" and I deal with this all day, everyday and explain this to my customers and clients faces all the time.
If you read the whole post, data drops did happen before the iPhone 5, but clearly since the launch, its gotten rediculous. The type of phone you have, your location and the amount of support the manufacturer puts out there with OTA radio updates etc.. greatly matters as well.
I'm not getting more in depth about this topic than I already have. The info is in the writing.
Just a little knowledge for the masses rather than me explaining this to about 7-12 people everyday I work.
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Where I live we have only had 4g for a few months and I have had my thunderbolt just as long. I have NEVER experienced any kind of data drop what so ever, EVER. I guess I'm just lucky
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I noticed today that I was going from 3g to 1x a lot!
I thought I was the only one having these problems
Well I was hoping it wasn't going to be this bad. I've been on deployment since May 2012 and I'm coming back to S.D for about 10 days, so I wonder how LTE fairing there.
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Well I was hoping it wasn't going to be this bad. I've been on deployment since May 2012 and I'm coming back to S.D for about 10 days, so I wonder how LTE fairing there.
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I hope LTE is alright for ya man. And thank you for your service. Real talk.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrpSrm1_-YE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This has been happening since June 2012 to both the Thunderbolts on my account. Sim cards have been replaced and one phone was replaced. Nothing has fixed it. There have been times in the past where i thought i fixed the issue, but those turned out to be only temporary. Verizon's network has become complete garbage IMO. I've had an open ticket for this issue for eight weeks now. Everytime I call I'm told I will just have to wait longer for it to be resolved. I'm seriously considering cancelling all six of my lines soon.
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Well I was hoping it wasn't going to be this bad. I've been on deployment since May 2012 and I'm coming back to S.D for about 10 days, so I wonder how LTE fairing there.
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Its great! I pull around 15 at the lowest 5
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