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Best rom and kernel for battery life?

which rom and kernel and you using and what type of battery life are you getting? im using faux 0.03 kernel on interactive setting and the senseless rom 1.3 and with heavy use im getting about 5 hrs, how about everyone else?

I tried InsertCoin and Revolution HD and the battery life was awful. Everyone said I needed to calibrate my battery, let it charge and die a few times but none of that worked. I went back to stock and I got over a day and a half
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I am using insert coin 2.2.2 and am getting about 2 -2.5 days with moderate use web browsing constant connection to the net for email ect but I have it under clocked to about 350mhz when the screen is off.

DeezNotes said:
I tried InsertCoin and Revolution HD and the battery life was awful. Everyone said I needed to calibrate my battery, let it charge and die a few times but none of that worked. I went back to stock and I got over a day and a half
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Same here! My battery life is so much better on stock. I also kept having data outages when I was using custom roms. I wasn't getting important calls and text messages. I went back to stock rom and everything is great again.

Fuse8499 said:
Same here! My battery life is so much better on stock. I also kept having data outages when I was using custom roms. I wasn't getting important calls and text messages. I went back to stock rom and everything is great again.
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Exactly my reason for avoiding ROMs. Its too bad people here get so pissy when you wont try their fav. ROM.
I am holding out for CM7. They have a GREAT reputation!
BTW-For all those that are using a min clock speed of 300+Mhz, I notice that my STOCK cpu min is 192Mhz. Try dropping your min speed down some, as that seems to be what the stock ROM uses...
Matt

mrg02d said:
Exactly my reason for avoiding ROMs...I am holding out for CM7.
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Umm yeah...just what do you think cm7 is? Smh

Behold_this said:
Umm yeah...just what do you think cm7 is? Smh
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Alright, I guess some things need to be SPELLED out for some here...
I meant to say, CUSTOM ROMS, as in, ROMS built by everyone and their grandma here.
Seems everyone has their own ROM these days...And I read a LOT of complaints about them. Please, dont go to bat for the ROMs. Everyone gets to have an opinion, let me have mine this time and back off. We have valid complaints.
Why is it that anytime someone here mentions anything slightly less than great about a ROM, someone with jungle fever has to step in and twist their nuts?
Matt

Wow! Dude cm7 IS a custom rom! Again smh

Behold_this said:
Wow! Dude cm7 IS a custom rom! Again smh
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FOR REAL?! Holy smokes! F CM7 then! Almost made a BIG mistake!
Try reading a bit more next time?! I anticipated an idiot comment so I defined it within the comment, so please read it as I spent a lot of brain cells coming up with it.
For real people, act like you will win a million bucks for figuring out what someone means before you go and flame them for something they said...Makes the world a better place!
Matt

Read your post again! You're the one still confused, lol. again smh. Btw saw in android forums you left xda! I was so excited, but now you're back after talking all that mess over there. You're a real class act!
http://androidforums.com/introductions/395957-transferring-over-xda.html#post3078246

Behold_this said:
Read your post again! You're the one still confused, lol. again smh. Btw saw in android forums you left xda! I was so excited, but now you're back after talking all that **** over there. You're a real class act!
http://androidforums.com/introductions/395957-transferring-over-xda.html#post3078246
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What he's saying is he's waiting for a custom ROM with no Sense and good reputation (i.e. CM7) to come along, then he'll flash that. He doesn't want to flash any custom ROM because he's heard bad things about some, which may or may not be true. You got a problem with that?
Personally, my favourite custom ROMs for the Sensation are InsertCoin 2.2 and Android Revolution HD. I'm not gonna flash any more ROMs until I can completely refresh my Sensation and put a clean, small ROM on it, without Sense. That ROM is CM7

Behold_this said:
Read your post again! You're the one still confused, lol. again smh. Btw saw in android forums you left xda! I was so excited, but now you're back after talking all that mess over there. You're a real class act!
http://androidforums.com/introductions/395957-transferring-over-xda.html#post3078246
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"They certainly have a reputation that they are trying to overcome that I have seen first-hand myself.
Thankfully, AndroidForums suffers from no such bad-rep, and we are all striving here to make sure that continues."
Looks like XDA has alot of work to do. Alot of people like you here. Who cares why I am still here? I am...Why do you care so much? I find it interesting that there are a handful of turds, including you, that go around making trouble for people. Are you THAT unhappy with life that you need to make others unhappy?
I believe most people here would agree that my point was made, correctly. Whats your age? I feel like I am arguing with a teenager that has yet to make it to Algebra 2. (No offense to those that HAVENT had Algebra 2...)
If you have zilch to say about what "WE" are all talking about, then why not go flash a ROM? Or better yet, have some lemonaide! :-D
Matt

Kurisu87 said:
I am using insert coin 2.2.2 and am getting about 2 -2.5 days with moderate use web browsing constant connection to the net for email ect but I have it under clocked to about 350mhz when the screen is off.
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What program are you using for UV?

DeezNotes said:
I tried InsertCoin and Revolution HD and the battery life was awful. Everyone said I needed to calibrate my battery, let it charge and die a few times but none of that worked. I went back to stock and I got over a day and a half
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After saying that my battery life on those ROMs was "awful" I feel the need to follow up. I posted a bit about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16852910#post16852910 but the short story is I'm now on Revolution HD 3.0.0 and after some research I found that the Facebook apps are doing something with the Calendar which was draining the battery. I'm only a few hours in, but so far so good with no account being added to either Facebook app.

[WARNING!]Confirmed that in htc ICS test builds has CIQ in!

Sorry for poor English
Lee said there was CIQ in ICS builds.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419278
We'll thank LeeDrOiD for his great discovery
I remembered htc has announce that they only adds CIQ in Sprint Phones,but we find that in STOCK Europe ICS Roms!
Dear HTC,what's wrong with you? Do you really want to lose your users?
If you don't believe me,you can decode ICS framework/services.jar
Here is where the CIQ is located.
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And here is that **** file
View attachment CiqAmsListener.zip
I made a Flashble Patch to remove CIQ(Only for ICS 3.06.401.101 Users!)
View attachment Remove_CIQ_From_ICS_3.06.401.101.zip
MD5: 13716AD9235415112FD79C0CB5F1D899
How can we Protect PRIVACY！

I ran the CarrierIQ detector and it says I don't have it. I'm using Virtuous Inquisition.

aNYthing24 said:
I ran the CarrierIQ detector and it says I don't have it. I'm using Virtuous Inquisition.
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It is in framework,CIQ detector only scans apks

Personally, couldn't care less. It's just for diagnostic purposes and frankly, read my text messages, I'm not hiding a thing. So what if some tech dude who works for CIQ knows that I went to get gas and will be back at the house in 15 minutes? Doesn't bother me, or the vast majority of their users. They're not going to lose anyone.

Well they are test builds so they should have every reason to be using CIQ as this isn't even meant for public use lol

Well, I tried flashing it and my phone won't get past the boot animation.

aNYthing24 said:
Well, I tried flashing it and my phone won't get past the boot animation.
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Your ROM is Virtuous Senseless,there may be something different from Senseless and stock one

jerrylzy said:
Your ROM is Virtuous Senseless,there may be something different from Senseless and stock one
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Haha I guess, thanks for the zip anyway.

What does that mean for us ? Is CarrierIQ really active or not ?

AleyKsi said:
What does that mean for us ? Is CarrierIQ really active or not ?
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Yes,if you are using Stock ICS (Devs have already remove it in their ROMs),CIQ is enabled by default as a htc logging service

jerrylzy said:
Your ROM is Virtuous Senseless,there may be something different from Senseless and stock one
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Isn't virtuous Senseless just the leaked rom with all the sense bits removed? It is still the same framework.

sshede said:
Personally, couldn't care less. It's just for diagnostic purposes and frankly, read my text messages, I'm not hiding a thing. So what if some tech dude who works for CIQ knows that I went to get gas and will be back at the house in 15 minutes? Doesn't bother me, or the vast majority of their users. They're not going to lose anyone.
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Lol no offense m8 but are you also that kind who do not care about video cams everywhere, that you need to be registered with your fingerprints to have passport soon to come DNA as well plus the same for driver license?
I mean sure you do not have anything to hide because you do not think you should have a private life where what you do is your own and you can think and say what you want?
I mean come on sure if this is only used for logging in case for diagnostic but it does not mean that even tho HTC uses it for that so does your phone company or your country, as long its there they can access it as well.
No offense but I have something to hide my pirvate life my right to have a life where i'm alone with my own thoughts and being me it seems your not.
A smart man once wrote:
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin
You are one of those who give up your essential liberty to get temporarly safety by accepting they do stuff like this heck just look at the laws passed since 9/11 for more of this.
Sorry for the rant but I do not stand for stuff like that no matter who does it sadly all companies today does it no matter who you look at.
It should be stopped.

thanks a lot for this patch.
After applying all apps have been optimized. is that correct?
Seems to work on both leaked ruu's.
Regards,
Mart
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I suppose no app on market is able to check for this type of implementation?

smithey253 said:
Isn't virtuous Senseless just the leaked rom with all the sense bits removed? It is still the same framework.
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I compared.It's almost the same but something different.
strumf666 said:
I suppose no app on market is able to check for this type of implementation?
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+1
May be HTC will remove it in public release

Well I flashed to arhd5.0.2 yday and I hope mike removed it No I just need to find out why my phone keeps restarting unless in aeroplane mode since the flash...
edit: I forgot to flash new firmware lol no problems since

Nimras186 said:
Lol no offense m8 but are you also that kind who do not care about video cams everywhere, that you need to be registered with your fingerprints to have passport soon to come DNA as well plus the same for driver license?
I mean sure you do not have anything to hide because you do not think you should have a private life where what you do is your own and you can think and say what you want?
I mean come on sure if this is only used for logging in case for diagnostic but it does not mean that even tho HTC uses it for that so does your phone company or your country, as long its there they can access it as well.
No offense but I have something to hide my pirvate life my right to have a life where i'm alone with my own thoughts and being me it seems your not.
A smart man once wrote:
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin
You are one of those who give up your essential liberty to get temporarly safety by accepting they do stuff like this heck just look at the laws passed since 9/11 for more of this.
Sorry for the rant but I do not stand for stuff like that no matter who does it sadly all companies today does it no matter who you look at.
It should be stopped.
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You assumed a lot about me just because of my view on CIQ. No, I'm not one of those people, its just that I understand carrier IQ is for diagnostic purposes thus I don't care if they have read any messages from me. A text message is a small part of my personal life. You think I'm 100% totally open about my life to everyone? Hell no, but text messages aren't somewhere I keep sensitive information.

There is no guarantee CIQ is/will be used only for carrier diagnostic purposes and since we have no control over it no matter how you look at it, it can't be good because and it can access almost everything on the phone. We bought ourselves a very intelligent tracker/spy device

Big brother is watching you! LOL

You've got nothing to fear, if you got nothing to hide. Simple as that.

Fed up with Android, lags, bugs, etc

I have a sensation which, spec-wise at least, should be a powerhouse, dual core, loads if ram, bla bla but i am FED UP WITH LAGS, CRASHES, BUGS, for a device with that much power i expect FLAWLESS performance, and not to f*cking crash!! Sense crashes constantly (i only get a week or two without crashes if i factory reset the phone, but i dont think that is the point of having such a powerhouse!)
Apps are buggy, there will always be something, im not saying it happens always but it IS HAPPENIG, today Gtalk wouldnt start, it kept returning to the menu (solution:close background data, open gtalk, it will prompt u sth, enable background and it works) but guys this stuff shouldnt be happening at all.
I am a DIE HARD iOs hater, but dammit, that thing newer has lags/crashes/bugs... It just... Works.. f*uck.. i hate to say that but its, true, it just works
(And the roms and stuff are great, but still there isnt any rom that is 110% working)
I hope things will change in the future, or i will start considering to shift to the Cupertino based company..
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It sounds like you have a faulty phone. Why dont you get it replaced under warrenty?

I've read posts here, and contacted support, they told me that sadly, that was normal. Here is the article on engadget regarding the topic (it is short and worth reading )
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/18/bugs-with-htc-sense-and-gingerbread/
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Flash a no-sense rom in that case or try an ICS rom with sense. ARHD seems to be a popular one. Just don't give up that quickly

artov said:
Just don't give up that quickly
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Ill give the stock ICS a go in a week/two, after that ill start flashing and hopefully it will be better..
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I'm with hungry81. Faulty phone. That is not normal and if support tells you that is normal, I say you tell them that if that is normal, it is unacceptable and you want your money back. My sensation does non of these things. It did shut off on me today, but I've had it since September, and this is the first time it's done that to me using stock ROM. It could be a corrupted memory card. I had my defy get real fussy like that, so a backed up and reformatted the sd card, then loaded everything back on, and have had no problems since.

How bout WP7
Well, if you don't get your problem dealt with, might I recommend a WP7 phone? Spec wise it is inferior to Android, but many ppl don't realize that a 1GHz single core is plenty of power to drive a WP7 phone. The GUI is as smooth as butter, no lags, crashes, etc. You should really try one of these phones and see what I'm talking about. And since it is being continually developed, it will probably catch up to iOS and Android in the specs department. But AGAIN, I stress that these phones don't need all that power. Try one out and you'll see what I mean

I think it might be that fual core chip, if I had to guess.
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I would try the non sense ROMs.

Yeah, your best bet is to ditch sense, and go with stock. Therefore your problem isn't actually android, but HTC..
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I have an epic 4g touch (samsung galaxy S II line)..and i've had none of the problems you've described.
Maybe you should try a non-HTC Sense phone before condemning the entire Android OS? It's not like it's HTC Sense or the highway. There's AOSP, Touchwiz, Motoblur, etc...lots of options.

machmanx said:
Well, if you don't get your problem dealt with, might I recommend a WP7 phone? Spec wise it is inferior to Android, but many ppl don't realize that a 1GHz single core is plenty of power to drive a WP7 phone. The GUI is as smooth as butter, no lags, crashes, etc. You should really try one of these phones and see what I'm talking about. And since it is being continually developed, it will probably catch up to iOS and Android in the specs department. But AGAIN, I stress that these phones don't need all that power. Try one out and you'll see what I mean
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Lol, epic post! Keep trying though.
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The saddest part is that I've bought the sensation MAINLY because of HTC sense.. it was the only reason I didn't go sgs2, so removing sense would be like, an uttermost humiliating defeat for me...
I will try all the stuff u said and keep u posted with the progress by updating this thread...
Oh and seriously guys u know what I was talking about, I am not criticising android, Iove it with all my heart, but iOS is the most stable thing I have ever seen. Did u ever hear of it crashing or lagging? No.. and that goes for ipads, macs, etc, again, as much as I hate apple and that scumbag Steve Mobs, I really envy that aspect they have... :/
machmanx said:
Well, if you don't get your problem dealt with, might I recommend a WP7 phone? Spec wise it is inferior to Android, but many ppl don't realize that a 1GHz single core is plenty of power to drive a WP7 phone. The GUI is as smooth as butter, no lags, crashes, etc. You should really try one of these phones and see what I'm talking about. And since it is being continually developed, it will probably catch up to iOS and Android in the specs department. But AGAIN, I stress that these phones don't need all that power. Try one out and you'll see what I mean
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As a matter of a fact, I really like the metro UI! and I have been with Nokia's forever LOL, at least the hardware is good (build quality) ^^
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Xxul said:
I have a sensation which, spec-wise at least, should be a powerhouse, dual core, loads if ram, bla bla but i am FED UP WITH LAGS, CRASHES, BUGS, for a device with that much power i expect FLAWLESS performance, and not to f*cking crash!! Sense crashes constantly (i only get a week or two without crashes if i factory reset the phone, but i dont think that is the point of having such a powerhouse!)
Apps are buggy, there will always be something, im not saying it happens always but it IS HAPPENIG, today Gtalk wouldnt start, it kept returning to the menu (solution:close background data, open gtalk, it will prompt u sth, enable background and it works) but guys this stuff shouldnt be happening at all.
I am a DIE HARD iOs hater, but dammit, that thing newer has lags/crashes/bugs... It just... Works.. f*uck.. i hate to say that but its, true, it just works
(And the roms and stuff are great, but still there isnt any rom that is 110% working)
I hope things will change in the future, or i will start considering to shift to the Cupertino based company..
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Xxul said:
Oh and seriously guys u know what I was talking about, I am not criticising android, Iove it with all my heart, but iOS is the most stable thing I have ever seen. Did u ever hear of it crashing or lagging? No.. and that goes for ipads, macs, etc, again, as much as I hate apple and that scumbag Steve Mobs, I really envy that aspect they have... :/
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Well actually...... YES.
http://www.macworld.com/article/133078/2008/04/tco_iphone_freeze.html
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1293076
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=454195
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=410646
http://ipod.about.com/od/iphonetroubleshooting/a/iphone_crashes.htm
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3127518?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2387605?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3374469?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3243698?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1731389?start=0&tstart=0
ETC and continues on for About 13,600,000 results, the same results can be found for ipads, ipods and anything apple
Apple products they DON'T just work. Now appologise and say sorry for propogating an annoying marketing myth, and never do it again.

hungry81 said:
Well actually...... YES.
http://www.macworld.com/article/133078/2008/04/tco_iphone_freeze.html
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1293076
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=454195
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=410646
http://ipod.about.com/od/iphonetroubleshooting/a/iphone_crashes.htm
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3127518?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2387605?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3374469?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3243698?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1731389?start=0&tstart=0
ETC and continues on for About 13,600,000 results, the same results can be found for ipads, ipods and anything apple
Apple products they DON'T just work. Now appologise and say sorry for propogating an annoying marketing myth, and never do it again.
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Post of the week
Onto the issue at hand, a lot of reviews for the Sensation report unexplained lag. Other dual core and similar spec'd phones don't lag like the Sensation does. If i had to guess it would be an improper build of HTC Sense.
Try a nonsense ROM can help. Get ADW launcher and beautiful widgets and you will hardly notice a difference. ICS should be able to offer other improvement. Most alpha builds reports night and day improvements with ICS.
If you don't want to use a ROM atm, avoid live wallpapers, turn off flash, avoid using too many widgets. Basically everything that makes an Android worth having, avoid until you can figure out the source of the lag.
Get a task manager and see if killing the tasks help, if it does then it is a memory issue either by a rouge app or (again) probably caused by the memory hog that is Sense.

My HTC Vivid on gingerbread + official sense 3.0 and unofficial sense 3.5 is buttery smooth. Just saying.
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No idea why everyone is saying use a Senseless ROM, Sense it at fault.
That's utter crap.
Try flashing a custom ROM, you'll find it makes a big improvement to speed and overall reliability

hungry81 said:
Now appologise and say sorry for propogating an annoying marketing myth, and never do it again.
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Are u out of your mind? Do us a favour and read posts with more attention
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iOS multitasking + other problems
Well, I read that iOS 5 drains a lot of battery for the simplest tasks. On top of that, there are other issues related to web browsing (like crashing browser) and other issues. I'd say look into this before setting your heart on iOS. I mean, it could take them a long time to fix it.
And yeah, a lot of ppl have love for Nokias since they were so good. I'm glad they're making phones with WP7. But for now I'll stick to my HD7
Rootin' for the underdog (WP7)

Recommend ICS update

Hi guys,
Do you recommend the update to ics ?
Im unsure whether it will worth or not.
In the costumer care they say that only recommend to advanced users, bcause internal memory stays very low and some apps may not run.
Can you tell me, please.
thanks

pedrovki said:
Hi guys,
Do you recommend the update to ics ?
Im unsure whether it will worth or not.
In the costumer care they say that only recommend to advanced users, bcause internal memory stays very low and some apps may not run.
Can you tell me, please.
thanks
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i've upgraded to ics fallout...however after 2 weeks revert back to endy....ics not as fast as endy....

pedrovki said:
Hi guys,
Do you recommend the update to ics ?
Im unsure whether it will worth or not.
In the costumer care they say that only recommend to advanced users, bcause internal memory stays very low and some apps may not run.
Can you tell me, please.
thanks
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I wouldn't recommend it for you as you are obviously incapable of searching or reading all the threads where people have discussed ICS, features, performance etc.
This mean that if you try upgrading you will probably come back here with hundreds of questions that you can't be bothered to search for either.

Fallout all the way!!!!
Fallout is a great rom which brings in many features, tweaks and mods.
With the latest kernel, it functions smoothly and without any lag.(At least for me )
I would say that the ICS update is totally worth it, as it brings in a bunch of improvements and features.
Also with Fallout v5.0 you get all the goodness of HTC Sense 4.0 which is otherwise not there in the official RUU.
Now all Im waiting for is a stable version of nk111's jelly bean port for the desire s as I'm literally in love with project butter
Ps: No issues with Fallout V5.0 whatsoever till date :victory:

SimonTS said:
I wouldn't recommend it for you as you are obviously incapable of searching or reading all the threads where people have discussed ICS, features, performance etc.
This mean that if you try upgrading you will probably come back here with hundreds of questions that you can't be bothered to search for either.
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Can you show me where that thread is, please ?
Thanks

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So much talk and no help... Whats the point ?!
Dont reply if u dont help

I believe the point that is being made, is that all the help and information is out there, just open your eyes, look at the other threads especially the sticky ones, use the xda search function, for a start read my signature....
Sywepd form my DsereiS

ben_pyett said:
I believe the point that is being made, is that all the help and information is out there, just open your eyes, look at the other threads especially the sticky ones, use the xda search function, for a start read my signature....
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Thanks Ben. I wouldn't mind getting treated like cr4p by the newcomers if we were being paid for tech-support. It's the fact that they come expecting to get an immediate answer and not have to do any work themselves that gets me worked up

nazri5363 said:
i've upgraded to ics fallout...however after 2 weeks revert back to endy....ics not as fast as endy....
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It took me a week to go back to Endy. Fallout started great at first, but after restoring all apps, settings, messages, etc. Laggy behavior started and the phone was really slow, sometimes responding to button presses after 10 seconds.
Endy 3.5 works great.
Any tips on where i can read up on the new kernel and its implications/benefits?
Thanks
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ICS way better than GB (JB > ICS > GB)
SimonTS said:
I wouldn't recommend it for you as you are obviously incapable of searching or reading all the threads where people have discussed ICS, features, performance etc.
This mean that if you try upgrading you will probably come back here with hundreds of questions that you can't be bothered to search for either.
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You are right, Simon.
Anyways, if you are looking for an upgrade from your old useless GB for your Desire S, you can download ICS RUU from HTC support site.
ICS version is always better than the GB ones. No more hanging and restarts. Very smooth UI and awesome UI layout. U will love it.
Once iCS, you crave for JB.
I am now using Paranoid Android v2.14. Rooted from my ICS RUU.
Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901739

pedrovki said:
Hi guys,
Do you recommend the update to ics ?
Im unsure whether it will worth or not.
In the costumer care they say that only recommend to advanced users, bcause internal memory stays very low and some apps may not run.
Can you tell me, please.
thanks
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Definitely yes!
I am on ICS maybe 1 and half month and when I have deleted not needed system apps, ICS is smooth like a butter...
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madzur said:
It took me a week to go back to Endy. Fallout started great at first, but after restoring all apps, settings, messages, etc. Laggy behavior started and the phone was really slow, sometimes responding to button presses after 10 seconds.
Endy 3.5 works great.
Any tips on where i can read up on the new kernel and its implications/benefits?
Thanks
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
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I hope you didn't restore the setting through Titanium backup... I think it is better to not mix settings of 3.5 with ICS.
It's my experince as unexperienced rooted user...
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aby2aby said:
You are right, Simon.
Anyways, if you are looking for an upgrade from your old useless GB for your Desire S, you can download ICS RUU from HTC support site.
ICS version is always better than the GB ones. No more hanging and restarts. Very smooth UI and awesome UI layout. U will love it.
Once iCS, you crave for JB.
I am now using Paranoid Android v2.14. Rooted from my ICS RUU.
Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901739
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Thanks ...
i like the part of "old useless" lol
Hug

SimonTS said:
Thanks Ben. I wouldn't mind getting treated like cr4p by the newcomers if we were being paid for tech-support. It's the fact that they come expecting to get an immediate answer and not have to do any work themselves that gets me worked up
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im not a newcomer ...
the thing is, i always used windows mobile and now i have a desire S with Gb... and the procedures are very different...
So then i am unsure about the upgrading...

[Q] Why flash custom ROM on SK4G?

First, I am very new at rooting and customizing Android and appreciate any help understanding. Please don't take my questions wrong, the screenshots on these ROMS look amazing and I know more than a few tons of hours went into developing and testing, it really is that I am not comprehending the differences I'm finding.
Thanks to the help of the great tutorials here, my SK4G is now successfully rooted! I've been looking at ROMS now for a very long time and found I am really leaning towards Glorious Overdose v5 or neXus JB.
What I'm wondering though, is why would I go through the trouble and risk of flashing if it is essentially still running froyo? Since it's rooted, could I simply uninstall the junkware and use Holo or ADW for a similar effect and virtually no risk? Of course I do see the difference in the kernal version, but as I said I am new to this and it's just my guess that kernal is even a big difference maker.
I am very obviously missing something here, and though I am searching I'm not quite finding what it is I'm not understanding. Otherwise as the video stated when I signed up... I'm a noob...

kelltech said:
First, I am very new at rooting and customizing Android and appreciate any help understanding. Please don't take my questions wrong, the screenshots on these ROMS look amazing and I know more than a few tons of hours went into developing and testing, it really is that I am not comprehending the differences I'm finding.
Thanks to the help of the great tutorials here, my SK4G is now successfully rooted! I've been looking at ROMS now for a very long time and found I am really leaning towards Glorious Overdose v5 or neXus JB.
What I'm wondering though, is why would I go through the trouble and risk of flashing if it is essentially still running froyo? Since it's rooted, could I simply uninstall the junkware and use Holo or ADW for a similar effect and virtually no risk? Of course I do see the difference in the kernal version, but as I said I am new to this and it's just my guess that kernal is even a big difference maker.
I am very obviously missing something here, and though I am searching I'm not quite finding what it is I'm not understanding. Otherwise as the video stated when I signed up... I'm a noob...
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I didn't read
Flashing a rom gives you more space / faster an more reliable
Glorious overdoes v5 is a bit buggy here an there an over all is the largest "rom" due to the aroma
I use nexus jb is slim fast reliable its really good the creator ric has made many roms each better then the last (theming wise) demkantor is really great dev only a few people here anymore an these two still make this phone amazing
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immorality said:
I didn't read
Flashing a rom gives you more space / faster an more reliable
Glorious overdoes v5 is a bit buggy here an there an over all is the largest "rom" due to the aroma
I use nexus jb is slim fast reliable its really good the creator ric has made many roms each better then the last (theming wise) demkantor is really great dev only a few people here anymore an these two still make this phone amazing
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Thanks for pointing out Overdose is buggy, I have that and nexus JB downloaded so perhaps I'll go with JB. Admittedly I'm a bit nervous to take that next step and flash. If I brick I have no backup phone, but it looks like the instructions here on this website are pretty clear and easy to follow. Plus, I'm a risk taker lol!

There are many reasons to flash a custom ROM, in addition to what Immortality said: you can flash one that looks and feels more like GingerBread, IceCreamSandwich, JellyBean, etc. You can pick one that isn't so bloated (although once you're rooted, you can pretty easily remove the bloat). I've tried a few, and here are my notes:
GOV33+LEAN-PERFORMANCE-RELEASE - Started out good, but over time SU stopped working, battery life degraded. Liked LauncherPro. Maybe it just needs to be reinstalled
neXus_JB_v1.2 - Colors hard to read (white on gray). Seems like too many unnecessary apps (live wallpapers, etc).
MeMoRy - Based on GOV3.3 Lean. Uses Lightning Launcher, which I didn't like at first, but it's very simple and presumably lightweight. However, the supplied Jelly Bean keyboard keeps crashing. I installed the ICS keyboard and removed the JB keyboard, and this is now the ROM I use.
Windxixi just posted about a new ROM that he says is based on GB and works: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42562471#post42562471. Might be worth following.

Windxixi just posted about a new ROM that he says is based on GB and works: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1#post42562471. Might be worth following.
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Thanks for your insight, very much appreciate it. I did see that GB post, looks really interesting. Once someone determines if it's actually upside down as in his pic or not I may just go with that one. Unless it really is upside down, that would seriously drive me nuts!

kelltech said:
Thanks for your insight, very much appreciate it. I did see that GB post, looks really interesting. Once someone determines if it's actually upside down as in his pic or not I may just go with that one. Unless it really is upside down, that would seriously drive me nuts!
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Should be fix-able but yes if you look at the track pad an the screen the settings is upside down an in chinese japanese
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immorality said:
Should be fix-able but yes if you look at the track pad an the screen the settings is upside down an in chinese japanese
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Sweet, definitely keeping my eyes open on that thread because I know for certain I cannot fix it! I haven't even had the guts to flash a new ROM yet or even delete bloatware, only froze it so far...

i like both gov2 and nexus jb.
both of them smooth like a charm

kelltech said:
Thanks for your insight, very much appreciate it. I did see that GB post, looks really interesting. Once someone determines if it's actually upside down as in his pic or not I may just go with that one. Unless it really is upside down, that would seriously drive me nuts!
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I can say that the ROM is not upside down:
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But I still wouldn't use it if this is your only phone. Keyboard does not work so you are stranded with a virtual keyboard. Battery life does not seem to be all that great. No buttons work on the actual phone except the power button, trackpad button, and the volume down button. The gyroscope does not work and I have not even set up my SIM on this so I don't know how it works with actual use.

shadowscott said:
I can say that the ROM is not upside down:
But I still wouldn't use it if this is your only phone. Keyboard does not work so you are stranded with a virtual keyboard. Battery life does not seem to be all that great. No buttons work on the actual phone except the power button, trackpad button, and the volume down button. The gyroscope does not work and I have not even set up my SIM on this so I don't know how it works with actual use.
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It is my only phone and doesn't look like I'll get to buy a new one any time soon. Thanks for the advice!

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