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[Q] Will the Nexus S have wifi calling?

As we all know the the Nexus S has VoIP/SIP support and can be turned into a wifi hotspot, does this mean it will also support wifi calling?

What exactly do you think voip/sip are!?
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I've heard about it but I'm not really sure what it does exactly, that I'm here asking.

i'd be sold if this was able to do a uma-like wifi calling.

it'll probably do UMA/t-mobile wi-fi calling once someone ports the app over.

Yes, it will support Wifi calling. I have been running a beta GV with the sip stacks for about a month and works great.

VOIP and UMA are NOT the same thing. One might use Google voice which is VOIP but not UMA. I could care less about Voip but if the Nexus S can't do UMA it is a deal breaker and will just pick up the Mytouch 4G. Already sad that the Nexus isn't 4G and doesn't have external storage but with no UMA support I will just get the Mytouch and wait for gingerbread to make its way to that.

UMA would be nice, but i'm good without it, but i seriously think it'll get ported somehow.

i think what the original poster is getting at, will it be able to use the tmobile wifi calling app.
i have a nexus one with it now so i can make phone calls. i am interested in this as well because i really don't want to pay another provider to make calls on top of what i am currently paying tmobile.

I'm wondering the same thing and this is actually the only feature that has me wanting this phone if it does in fact allow wifi calling.
My Nexus one has a broken usb port and i've been forced to swap batteries the last few months while waiting for the first gingerbread phone to arrive. I was already hoping for so much more like 720p display, dual core, new ui, because it barely feels like it's an upgrade over my N1 as is.
When the official specs were announced I almost considered going to the iphone4 or Samsung Focus but I just can't do AT&T, lol.

Pretty sure G-Voice via VOIP would be better than the original wifi-calling app, anyway. I wasn't all that impressed with the wifi-calling app on N1, honestly.

How so? The T-Mobile app is free and uses your minutes from the calling plan. Gvoice requires payment ontop of your calling plan. I don't want to pay twice for the same service.
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emctwo said:
VOIP and UMA are NOT the same thing. One might use Google voice which is VOIP but not UMA. I could care less about Voip but if the Nexus S can't do UMA it is a deal breaker and will just pick up the Mytouch 4G. Already sad that the Nexus isn't 4G and doesn't have external storage but with no UMA support I will just get the Mytouch and wait for gingerbread to make its way to that.
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If you want uma you will have to get a blackberry, currently the android devices just have gan.
makelegs said:
Pretty sure G-Voice via VOIP would be better than the original wifi-calling app, anyway. I wasn't all that impressed with the wifi-calling app on N1, honestly.
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Wifi calling sucked on the n1, the only device that was usable was the mt4g

robot_agenda said:
How so? The T-Mobile app is free and uses your minutes from the calling plan. Gvoice requires payment ontop of your calling plan. I don't want to pay twice for the same service.
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I've been using google voice for a year, and I've never paid a dime for anything. Unless you know something I don't know about some new service fee for g-voice when used in concert with VOIP, you may wanna re-assess g-voice altogether. It's flippin' AWESOME!.....
....AND FREE!!!
In all fairness, though.... call quality on the wifi app was poor for me. Volume was really low. Could be the fact that I was using an N1 hacked version, but I doubt it. If g-voice is only using the data you already paid for, then I don't see how it could cost anymore. Maybe I'm missing something though.

robot_agenda said:
How so? The T-Mobile app is free and uses your minutes from the calling plan. Gvoice requires payment ontop of your calling plan. I don't want to pay twice for the same service.
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GVoice doesn't require any payments. Calls to USA & Canada are free. Any other country have their rates, however. We still don't know how exactly is the VoIP implemented on the Nexus S, so can't say how it'll work as of now.

greenstuffs said:
If you want uma you will have to get a blackberry, currently the android devices just have gan.
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UMA and GAN are the same thing...in 2005 UMA specs were incorporated into the 3GPP rel. 6 specs and were renamed "Generic Access Network" or GAN.
The current list of phones that are UMA/GAN can be found here at
www .umatoday.com/smartphones.php
Currently the Nexus S is not there but that could just be because it is not out yet. Just have to see if after the release date if they update the list

Superfrag said:
GVoice doesn't require any payments. Calls to USA & Canada are free. Any other country have their rates, however. We still don't know how exactly is the VoIP implemented on the Nexus S, so can't say how it'll work as of now.
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If I was able to figure out how to use Google Voice to make calls over wireless LAN with mobile number, that will be a good alternative to wifi calling.

Wifi calling works fine on Vibrant

Blackberry supports wifi to cell handoff, Android handsets don't. Not sure whether Android is technically UMA or not. Either way the key is being able to receive calls over wifi. If you're stuck in the bowels of some massive office building and you have zero signal, being able to receive text messages and calls fluidly would be awesome. Especially if they're able to call or text to your regular number.

mingkee said:
If I was able to figure out how to use Google Voice to make calls over wireless LAN with mobile number, that will be a good alternative to wifi calling.
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GVoice on Android isn't VoIP, it just routes through your GVoice number. You need a SIP account like Gizmo5 etc to set it up. GVoice in GMail on your desktop IS VoIP. Hopefully they bring something like that soon..
As for how SIP/VoIP calling will work on the Nexus S, we'll just have to wait a few more days to find out, with concrete details.

What's the wifi calling feature US members talk about?

Hi,
I see that in the dev section, whenever there is an EU-based ROM thread, some US members ask for the wifi calling feature to be added.
But what is it?
I got a One S with the stock EU ROM (no carrier ROM) and there is also an "internet calling" option in the call settings. There, I can give the settings of a SIP account.
Is this the same thing, or do US ROMs have another additional feature?

i think its the same thing, but as far as i know its only tmobile US that supports it. it allows you to make calls via wifi in low signal areas

azzledazzle said:
i think its the same thing, but as far as i know its only tmobile US that supports it. it allows you to make calls via wifi in low signal areas
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You are correct, if I'm at home I do not have TMO coverage so I link to my WiFi and I can make calls w/o any issues. One really nice feature the TMO has!
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So why do people ask for it to be ADDED to EU ROMs? In my EU 1.78, the feature is also here. Same when I was with 1.53

Bricolo_fr said:
So why do people ask for it to be ADDED to EU ROMs? In my EU 1.78, the feature is also here. Same when I was with 1.53
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Probably so us Americans can try EU ROMs over here!!

Bricolo_fr said:
So why do people ask for it to be ADDED to EU ROMs? In my EU 1.78, the feature is also here. Same when I was with 1.53
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Probably because people do not realize wifi calling is potentially the same thing as your internet calling. Change scares people....

I don't think that it is exactly the same thing (even if it may accomplish the same thing). For TMO US folks you don't need to enter any sip info. You just enable it and choose wifi preferred, wifi only, or cellular preferred.

Yep. In fact it completely turns off your gsm radio and all calls and smses come through the WiFi. You are dialing out using your tmo number and everything. But instead using GSM towers you are using your WiFi.
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ok then this is obviously not the same as the sip one since it does not shut down the GSM radio and cannot send texts

Wifi calling on TMobile US has a couple additional benefits. First, you can add a free feature that makes it so the minutes used via Wifi calling do NOT count against your purchased minutes. Second, you can use Wifi calling when travelling outside of the US to call and text back to the US, or people in the US can call and text you. And if you have the free feature added, none of those minutes will count against your total purchased minutes either. I have used both of these benefits extensively and they are wonderful.

tylersnielsen said:
Wifi calling on TMobile US has a couple additional benefits. First, you can add a free feature that makes it so the minutes used via Wifi calling do NOT count against your purchased minutes. Second, you can use Wifi calling when travelling outside of the US to call and text back to the US, or people in the US can call and text you. And if you have the free feature added, none of those minutes will count against your total purchased minutes either. I have used both of these benefits extensively and they are wonderful.
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How do you get this free feature? I've always thought it was ludicrous that wifi calling counted against my minutes, but since I used so rarely back then I really didn't care, but recently at work I get no signal and have been using the wifi calling a lot more.
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Interesting to read about this feature.
Is it basically possible to connect to any wifi net ( usually there is a password protection) or do you basically need your providers ones?

If the WiFi is password protected, you need the credentials to establish a WiFi connection before using this feature.
*It is not restricted to provider-only networks. You can use any WiFi network you have access to, and that you phone can connect to.

Droidificator said:
How do you get this free feature? I've always thought it was ludicrous that wifi calling counted against my minutes, but since I used so rarely back then I really didn't care, but recently at work I get no signal and have been using the wifi calling a lot more.
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In your t-mobile account, you should have Wifi-calling as one of the free features. If it isn't there, add it manually or call them and add it. The minutes over wifi are still logged and counted, but don't count towards you package (so you can see how much you use wifi calling, but not pay for it).

WCCobra said:
If the WiFi is password protected, you need the credentials to establish a WiFi connection before using this feature.
*It is not restricted to provider-only networks. You can use any WiFi network you have access to, and that you phone can connect to.
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It seems to be comparable to the TMO "Hot-Spots" here in Germany in which you can log in for free by signing certain contracts or paying additional fee.
The other thing is connecting to WiFi resulting in a VOIP connection.
Ok, got that now. I didn't know that this feature is that popular in the States. As e.g. Germany geographically isn't a 'big' country we have a very good coverage with our big providers.
@home: I'll have to check my Fritz!Box. AVM offers an app for WiFi calling for mobiles. Interesting stuff.
Well, thanks so far for your answers and your time.

I have purchased the wifi 10.1, should I have gotten a carrier operated one?

Ok so Ive purchased the wifi operated one for my pops. Hes old and is always back and forth on his microsoft laptop so I figured this would make things a lot easier for him. He likes it so far. He currently has a verizon flip phone that is hooked up on Page Plus. Im not sure how the carrier operated ones work or what they do, can someone explain so I can have a better understanding so I then can figure out if I should return and get him the carrier operated one.
1) Im assuming you can pop a sim card in and pay for a plan but can you make phone calls like a cell phone?
2) is this wifi tablet that he currently have able to make wifi calls atleast?
3) I cant talk him into a smartphone so he will probably never make calls with a carrier based tablet, but he may want to have a data connection continuously when out and about. So im guessing getting a carrier based one would be necessary for this.
4) again, he has a verizon flip phone running on page plus which uses verizons towers, do they make a samsung verizon galaxy tab 2 or just sprint and at&t?
5) I was also considering the galaxy tablet note but baby steps for the old man lol....but I thought he might use the tv/tablet function.......but probably not, too much explaining lol
Any info to clear some things up would be great please.....I only have 15 days to return it.
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TheKid1 said:
Ok so Ive purchased the wifi operated one for my pops. Hes old and is always back and forth on his microsoft laptop so I figured this would make things a lot easier for him. He likes it so far. He currently has a verizon flip phone that is hooked up on Page Plus. Im not sure how the carrier operated ones work or what they do, can someone explain so I can have a better understanding so I then can figure out if I should return and get him the carrier operated one.
1) Im assuming you can pop a sim card in and pay for a plan but can you make phone calls like a cell phone?
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No, these are not phones, with a carrier operated on you can send text. But you can download a app called TextMe so send text free using wifi or data.
TheKid1 said:
2) is this wifi tablet that he currently have able to make wifi calls atleast?
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It could but it wasn't deigned for that, but at least the GT2 has front speakers. I did it once, but it was hard on the people I called to hear me.
TheKid1 said:
3) I cant talk him into a smartphone so he will probably never make calls with a carrier based tablet, but he may want to have a data connection continuously when out and about. So im guessing getting a carrier based one would be necessary for this.
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Yes it would, other wise he has to be close to a wifi to surf the web, but wifi is in a lot of places, it would depend how good is he at connecting to other wifi's.
TheKid1 said:
4) again, he has a verizon flip phone running on page plus which uses verizons towers, do they make a samsung verizon galaxy tab 2 or just sprint and at&t?l
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I believe Verizon has the GT2 too. I know they have the original because I just sold mine.
TheKid1 said:
5) I was also considering the galaxy tablet note but baby steps for the old man lol....but I thought he might use the tv/tablet function.......but probably not, too much explaining lol
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I love my GT2 10.1" It's connected to AT&T because that is my carrier. The Verizon one I have cost me $30 a month. (I think they got rid of the tab only plan and jammed shared data down their customers throat. So it cost $40 a month.
TheKid1 said:
Any info to clear some things up would be great please.....I only have 15 days to return it.
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Hope I was able to answer some questions for you.

Oditius said:
No, these are not phones, with a carrier operated on you can send text. But you can download a app called TextMe so send text free using wifi or data.
It could but it wasn't deigned for that, but at least the GT2 has front speakers. I did it once, but it was hard on the people I called to hear me.
Yes it would, other wise he has to be close to a wifi to surf the web, but wifi is in a lot of places, it would depend how good is he at connecting to other wifi's.
I believe Verizon has the GT2 too. I know they have the original because I just sold mine.
I love my GT2 10.1" It's connected to AT&T because that is my carrier. The Verizon one I have cost me $30 a month. (I think they got rid of the tab only plan and jammed shared data down their customers throat. So it cost $40 a month.
Hope I was able to answer some questions for you.
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Yea man, thanks a lot. So basically if I did decide to get the verizon one, he may be able to use his same plan for data?
And while we are on the subject, how the heck do I get his contact off his senior flip phone to a new google account? If he still had verizon, they woukd be synced with verizon and I can grab the .csv file from there site and import in google, but now that he has page plus(verizon towers still), im not sure if he can access the verizon backup site...is there another way without inputting manually?
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The international unlocked P3100 version has phone call feature. I'm debating getting this tablet for that feature since my Nexus 7 3G doesn't have it, but there's seems to be less development and the spec and screen resolution isn't as good. Although I do like having microSD slot since even the 32GB on the Nexus 7 isn't enough to hold my craps. People must like this thing a lot since I can't even find used ones for sale. Wouldn't mine more feedbacks from P3100 owners.
Also I'm confused about the carrier bands of this model, GSMArena posted:
HSDPA 900 / 2100 - GT-P3100
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - GT-P3105
However I read the contrary from Amazon reviews. Can someone confirm does the P3100 version work with ATT and/or TMobile 3G? Otherwise I'll have to pass on it.
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TheKid1 said:
Yea man, thanks a lot. So basically if I did decide to get the verizon one, he may be able to use his same plan for data?
And while we are on the subject, how the heck do I get his contact off his senior flip phone to a new google account? If he still had verizon, they woukd be synced with verizon and I can grab the .csv file from there site and import in google, but now that he has page plus(verizon towers still), im not sure if he can access the verizon backup site...is there another way without inputting manually?
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I don't know about Page Plus, and how they operate. Sounds like a prepaid account. I only use post paid, because even though prepaid my be cheap for the individual, it could get pricey for a family plan. Personally I think you should have him check out the Note 2. It is big, I owned it for a while, but if I wanted a big phone I could use as a tablet (It even comes with a S-Pen) I would use it. I am not sure how Verizon handles the contacts.

If the flip phone has something called send vcard you can do that with his contacts and then in his google account on a computer import the vcards to his contacts,I did it with my work phone they supplied me
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Oditius said:
I don't know about Page Plus, and how they operate. Sounds like a prepaid account. I only use post paid, because even though prepaid my be cheap for the individual, it could get pricey for a family plan. Personally I think you should have him check out the Note 2. It is big, I owned it for a while, but if I wanted a big phone I could use as a tablet (It even comes with a S-Pen) I would use it. I am not sure how Verizon handles the contacts.
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Yea maybe once he gets used to the way the android system works he will make the switch, but he may hate it cause of the battery on these smartphones.
mrkhigh said:
If the flip phone has something called send vcard you can do that with his contacts and then in his google account on a computer import the vcards to his contacts,I did it with my work phone they supplied me
Ok, ill check it out. Im not sure what vcard is. If I do find it in his phone, where woukd it be located? Is it software or is it an actual sd card or something. Once found do u need to plug the phone into a pc, not sure if he has data plan on his phone to send wirelessly. Thanks guys.
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Got it to work using blue tooth. Sent the contacts right to my phone, synced to google, then signed in to google on the tablet and it worked like a charm.....nice. Pops is chillen now. Oh and I got it to send and receive calls on wifi.....the speakers work pretty good when on a call and quality is reasonable on both ends of call.
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Verizon WiFi Calling

Here's some interesting news for those of us on Verizon. I wonder if this will be included in a future update from Motorola?
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/12/07/verizon-introduces-wifi-calling-tomorrow-to-the-galaxy-s6/

people on iphone for a while could use verizon messages to place wifi calls not sure about android you can try,and I would guess if verizon allows them then sure why not

what i would like to know if we are going to get it, seeing that we didn't get our phones from verizon.......

ct_tec313 said:
what i would like to know if we are going to get it, seeing that we didn't get our phones from verizon.......
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We may...T-Mobile users have WiFi calling on this phone, dont they?

brholt6 said:
We may...T-Mobile users have WiFi calling on this phone, dont they?
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Negative...
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Negative...
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Ah, damn. I was thinking they did for some reason. Is that supposed to come with the eventual Band 12 update (which sounds like it might be 6.0.1, at least for the 6P)?

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Ah, damn. I was thinking they did for some reason. Is that supposed to come with the eventual Band 12 update (which sounds like it might be 6.0.1, at least for the 6P)?
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Hope so, but I've not seen anything official from Motorola or T-Mobile.
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No reason for verizon to waste their time developing that for this phone when the have their own version of the phone to take care of.

Wifi calling is part of IMS, much like VoLTE. Doesn't really take much to go from VoLTE to Wifi calling. It just needs to be enabled. In some of the logs I have on 6.0, there are some IMS entries regarding VoLTE, VoWifi, ViLTE (Video over LTE), and ViWifi. Only VoLTE returns true back to the carrier.
Whether carriers will allow it is a different story altogether. Knowing Verizon, it'll be available only on Verizon branded devices (carrier variants). I wouldn't be surprised to see the Droid Turbo 2 getting VZW Wifi calling in 6.0.

I just got a cell signal booster from Verizon as my new house has little coverage. The rep informed me of WiFi calling coming but no exact time frame. So I had to spend $175 to purchase an already antiquated booster. Damn Verizon.

What's the difference between (carrier enabled) WiFi calling via the stock phone app versus calling someone via the Hangouts dialer app? Aren't they both essentially doing the same thing?
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EdCarden said:
What's the difference between (carrier enabled) WiFi calling via the stock phone app versus calling someone via the Hangouts dialer app? Aren't they both essentially doing the same thing?
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I have found the Hangouts Dialer to be unreliable. Sometimes it sounds like you are drowning under water to the other party. It also doesn't seem to ring on incoming calls due to an IPv6 bug with Android, that Google refuses to fix...unless you root and disable IPv6.

jmileti said:
I just got a cell signal booster from Verizon as my new house has little coverage. The rep informed me of WiFi calling coming but no exact time frame. So I had to spend $175 to purchase an already antiquated booster. Damn Verizon.
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I realize it's too late for you, but for others, if you're out of, or near the end of your contract, you can usually get them to send you a network extender for free. I called them a few years ago, and told them how my contract was almost up, and I was going to explore other providers, for better service. Once I said that, they offered to send me the extender at no charge.

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What's the difference between (carrier enabled) WiFi calling via the stock phone app versus calling someone via the Hangouts dialer app? Aren't they both essentially doing the same thing?
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Carrier Wifi calling extends the carrier network over Wifi, so you still receive calls/texts outside of your service area or deep underground. What they do is allow connections through untrusted Wifi APs and use a secure tunneling connection to their IMS framework via the internet. So, when someone calls your phone, it routes it back to your phone over the same connection and you get the call over Wifi.

whats the likelihood that we will get this working for us, any technical hurdles is this something once verizon gets to other phones will we be able to port it. just curious this will be the determining factor for me buying unlocked phones if verizon is going to screw us over i might just have to switch carriers.....

Advantages of 3G version other than standalone device?

I just bought the 3G version. I'm fine without having it connected if its only benefit is using it by itself if I want to leave the phone at home. Which I don't see happening.
Are there any other benefits? I have unlimited so I had to get a new line and am paying $45 for 3gb. Not sure if I even need that.
I don't want the non-3G version because I like the larger watch.

being able to receive / make calls in bt mode is nice. I have the wifi version, the wife has the 3g version, bought on swappa/ never activated.

3g version has speaker built-in, larger battery, ability to be stand alone device with separated number or remotely connected with call forwarding enabled. Im surprised that you had to take new $45 plan. I have smart watch plan for $5 a month. I dont think there is much data included in that plan but I dont use much data on watch itself ( data on phone it is a different story ). Even watching youtube on watch is a pain.

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3g version has speaker built-in, larger battery, ability to be stand alone device with separated number or remotely connected with call forwarding enabled. Im surprised that you had to take new $45 plan. I have smart watch plan for $5 a month. I dont think there is much data included in that plan but I dont use much data on watch itself ( data on phone it is a different story ). Even watching youtube on watch is a pain.
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I was looking to get one soon. So the WiFi version doesn't have a speaker?

That is my understanding that only 3g versions have speaker/microphone built-in. It is one of the reasons why they are thicker than Bluetooth/WiFi versions

Hawkhell said:
I was looking to get one soon. So the WiFi version doesn't have a speaker?
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Yea / One of the adv of the 3g is the speaker. My wife has the sport (AT&T off swappa)/ I have the BT/WiFi classic. Both are nice. Personally, I looked at the classic 3g version which I could get on swappa / but it was just too big, I talked to a guy @ ATT who let me try it on. IMHO the WiFi/BT version looks more legit to a true watch.

OK thanks. Yeah I would rather have a slimmer watch than have a speaker or 3g.

The 3g version is great for runners who want to leave their phone home.
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Im too lazy to run but quite often I talking to my wrist. It is very convenient for quick call while driving.

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The 3g version is great for runners who want to leave their phone home.
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Agree, and you can have some music along with you as well.
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