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UMA Wifi Calling

I hooked up my new MT4G to wifi and it prompted and notified me of wi-fi calling.
Take a look at the picture attached
Pretty sweet finally a android with wifi calling!!!
Edit: This is not uma

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excellent, wrong forum
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Wrong sub forum

I'm gonna go against the grain and say right forum.
Wrong descriptor though, it's not uma.

Technically it's not uma because it doesn't hand off to.and from the tower like blackberry... But I'm equally excited.. Tested and confirmed on mine as well
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motorjonny said:
Technically it's not uma because it doesn't hand off to.and from the tower like blackberry... But I'm equally excited.. Tested and confirmed on mine as well
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Sorry for the wrong sub forum post. OOPS I forgot where I was.
I was unsure of the cellular handoff. Has it been confirmed that it doesn't hand off?

stoute said:
Sorry for the wrong sub forum post. OOPS I forgot where I was.
I was unsure of the cellular handoff. Has it been confirmed that it doesn't hand off?
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Yes it has been. Can't find the source right now but Tmonews.com is where it was hottly discussed and proved to be right.

stoute said:
I hooked up my new MT4G to wifi and it prompted and notified me of wi-fi calling.
Take a look at the picture attached
Pretty sweet finally a android with UMA!!!
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Please stop calling this UMA. It's not the same thing at all.
Wi-fi calling is a clever way to push people on to their own wifi infrastructure. Rather than continue to use cell tower bandwidth, you use your own broadband connection for both data and voice traffic. The best part (for them) is you still use your minutes.
Most people never bother setting up wifi on their phone, because they simply don't have to. The mobile network is available 24x7, and wifi eats battery life. Now, get to charge you *and* get you off their network at the same time.
Brilliant strategy, but I'll pass - I'm not paying T-Mobile to use my own bandwidth.

You would if you were somewhere you didn't have coverage. Or even better if you were out of the country and wanted to call back to a US number and only use your normal minutes and not pay for international roaming.
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The app works great for me with crappy service in my house been waiting for it. Once you get close to the wifi range limit u get a pop-up warning you your call will be lost.

NexVision said:
The app works great for me with crappy service in my house been waiting for it. Once you get close to the wifi range limit u get a pop-up warning you your call will be lost.
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The only problem I had was whsn walking away from work or my house it would drop the call vs the hand off like the blackberrys uma calling feature.
I also think we are all aware this is not a true uma. I will try to edit my op to correct.
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Well if you do not want to use the service then dont or let me guess you are a Apple fanboy so will find something wrong with everything other than iPhone and ATT

I wonder if the txt messages will be routed via wifi as well ?

vikramdhani said:
I wonder if the txt messages will be routed via wifi as well ?
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i read through the frequent questions in the wifi calling app... Confirmed that it does send messages through wifi!

motorjonny said:
i read through the frequent questions in the wifi calling app... Confirmed that it does send messages through wifi!
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It is supposed to do mms sms calls as well as the usual internet and email.
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This is a great feature, i'm just confused why they wouldn't build it to allow it to seamlessly handoff to cell towers.

That would b a hardware requirement and raise the cost.
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dcam1075 said:
You would if you were somewhere you didn't have coverage. Or even better if you were out of the country and wanted to call back to a US number and only use your normal minutes and not pay for international roaming.
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I used WiFi overseas for calling on my BB, and TMo came after me with a bunch of international calling minutes anyway. So unless they have changed their policy - be careful.

gaww said:
I used WiFi overseas for calling on my BB, and TMo came after me with a bunch of international calling minutes anyway. So unless they have changed their policy - be careful.
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Were you calling US numbers?

gaww said:
I used WiFi overseas for calling on my BB, and TMo came after me with a bunch of international calling minutes anyway. So unless they have changed their policy - be careful.
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I used my BB overseas this summer, mobile network off, wifi on. No extra charges.

[Q] Will the Nexus S have wifi calling?

As we all know the the Nexus S has VoIP/SIP support and can be turned into a wifi hotspot, does this mean it will also support wifi calling?

What exactly do you think voip/sip are!?
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I've heard about it but I'm not really sure what it does exactly, that I'm here asking.

i'd be sold if this was able to do a uma-like wifi calling.

it'll probably do UMA/t-mobile wi-fi calling once someone ports the app over.

Yes, it will support Wifi calling. I have been running a beta GV with the sip stacks for about a month and works great.

VOIP and UMA are NOT the same thing. One might use Google voice which is VOIP but not UMA. I could care less about Voip but if the Nexus S can't do UMA it is a deal breaker and will just pick up the Mytouch 4G. Already sad that the Nexus isn't 4G and doesn't have external storage but with no UMA support I will just get the Mytouch and wait for gingerbread to make its way to that.

UMA would be nice, but i'm good without it, but i seriously think it'll get ported somehow.

i think what the original poster is getting at, will it be able to use the tmobile wifi calling app.
i have a nexus one with it now so i can make phone calls. i am interested in this as well because i really don't want to pay another provider to make calls on top of what i am currently paying tmobile.

I'm wondering the same thing and this is actually the only feature that has me wanting this phone if it does in fact allow wifi calling.
My Nexus one has a broken usb port and i've been forced to swap batteries the last few months while waiting for the first gingerbread phone to arrive. I was already hoping for so much more like 720p display, dual core, new ui, because it barely feels like it's an upgrade over my N1 as is.
When the official specs were announced I almost considered going to the iphone4 or Samsung Focus but I just can't do AT&T, lol.

Pretty sure G-Voice via VOIP would be better than the original wifi-calling app, anyway. I wasn't all that impressed with the wifi-calling app on N1, honestly.

How so? The T-Mobile app is free and uses your minutes from the calling plan. Gvoice requires payment ontop of your calling plan. I don't want to pay twice for the same service.
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emctwo said:
VOIP and UMA are NOT the same thing. One might use Google voice which is VOIP but not UMA. I could care less about Voip but if the Nexus S can't do UMA it is a deal breaker and will just pick up the Mytouch 4G. Already sad that the Nexus isn't 4G and doesn't have external storage but with no UMA support I will just get the Mytouch and wait for gingerbread to make its way to that.
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If you want uma you will have to get a blackberry, currently the android devices just have gan.
makelegs said:
Pretty sure G-Voice via VOIP would be better than the original wifi-calling app, anyway. I wasn't all that impressed with the wifi-calling app on N1, honestly.
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Wifi calling sucked on the n1, the only device that was usable was the mt4g

robot_agenda said:
How so? The T-Mobile app is free and uses your minutes from the calling plan. Gvoice requires payment ontop of your calling plan. I don't want to pay twice for the same service.
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I've been using google voice for a year, and I've never paid a dime for anything. Unless you know something I don't know about some new service fee for g-voice when used in concert with VOIP, you may wanna re-assess g-voice altogether. It's flippin' AWESOME!.....
....AND FREE!!!
In all fairness, though.... call quality on the wifi app was poor for me. Volume was really low. Could be the fact that I was using an N1 hacked version, but I doubt it. If g-voice is only using the data you already paid for, then I don't see how it could cost anymore. Maybe I'm missing something though.

robot_agenda said:
How so? The T-Mobile app is free and uses your minutes from the calling plan. Gvoice requires payment ontop of your calling plan. I don't want to pay twice for the same service.
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GVoice doesn't require any payments. Calls to USA & Canada are free. Any other country have their rates, however. We still don't know how exactly is the VoIP implemented on the Nexus S, so can't say how it'll work as of now.

greenstuffs said:
If you want uma you will have to get a blackberry, currently the android devices just have gan.
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UMA and GAN are the same thing...in 2005 UMA specs were incorporated into the 3GPP rel. 6 specs and were renamed "Generic Access Network" or GAN.
The current list of phones that are UMA/GAN can be found here at
www .umatoday.com/smartphones.php
Currently the Nexus S is not there but that could just be because it is not out yet. Just have to see if after the release date if they update the list

Superfrag said:
GVoice doesn't require any payments. Calls to USA & Canada are free. Any other country have their rates, however. We still don't know how exactly is the VoIP implemented on the Nexus S, so can't say how it'll work as of now.
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If I was able to figure out how to use Google Voice to make calls over wireless LAN with mobile number, that will be a good alternative to wifi calling.

Wifi calling works fine on Vibrant

Blackberry supports wifi to cell handoff, Android handsets don't. Not sure whether Android is technically UMA or not. Either way the key is being able to receive calls over wifi. If you're stuck in the bowels of some massive office building and you have zero signal, being able to receive text messages and calls fluidly would be awesome. Especially if they're able to call or text to your regular number.

mingkee said:
If I was able to figure out how to use Google Voice to make calls over wireless LAN with mobile number, that will be a good alternative to wifi calling.
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GVoice on Android isn't VoIP, it just routes through your GVoice number. You need a SIP account like Gizmo5 etc to set it up. GVoice in GMail on your desktop IS VoIP. Hopefully they bring something like that soon..
As for how SIP/VoIP calling will work on the Nexus S, we'll just have to wait a few more days to find out, with concrete details.

What's the wifi calling feature US members talk about?

Hi,
I see that in the dev section, whenever there is an EU-based ROM thread, some US members ask for the wifi calling feature to be added.
But what is it?
I got a One S with the stock EU ROM (no carrier ROM) and there is also an "internet calling" option in the call settings. There, I can give the settings of a SIP account.
Is this the same thing, or do US ROMs have another additional feature?

i think its the same thing, but as far as i know its only tmobile US that supports it. it allows you to make calls via wifi in low signal areas

azzledazzle said:
i think its the same thing, but as far as i know its only tmobile US that supports it. it allows you to make calls via wifi in low signal areas
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You are correct, if I'm at home I do not have TMO coverage so I link to my WiFi and I can make calls w/o any issues. One really nice feature the TMO has!
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So why do people ask for it to be ADDED to EU ROMs? In my EU 1.78, the feature is also here. Same when I was with 1.53

Bricolo_fr said:
So why do people ask for it to be ADDED to EU ROMs? In my EU 1.78, the feature is also here. Same when I was with 1.53
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Probably so us Americans can try EU ROMs over here!!

Bricolo_fr said:
So why do people ask for it to be ADDED to EU ROMs? In my EU 1.78, the feature is also here. Same when I was with 1.53
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Probably because people do not realize wifi calling is potentially the same thing as your internet calling. Change scares people....

I don't think that it is exactly the same thing (even if it may accomplish the same thing). For TMO US folks you don't need to enter any sip info. You just enable it and choose wifi preferred, wifi only, or cellular preferred.

Yep. In fact it completely turns off your gsm radio and all calls and smses come through the WiFi. You are dialing out using your tmo number and everything. But instead using GSM towers you are using your WiFi.
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ok then this is obviously not the same as the sip one since it does not shut down the GSM radio and cannot send texts

Wifi calling on TMobile US has a couple additional benefits. First, you can add a free feature that makes it so the minutes used via Wifi calling do NOT count against your purchased minutes. Second, you can use Wifi calling when travelling outside of the US to call and text back to the US, or people in the US can call and text you. And if you have the free feature added, none of those minutes will count against your total purchased minutes either. I have used both of these benefits extensively and they are wonderful.

tylersnielsen said:
Wifi calling on TMobile US has a couple additional benefits. First, you can add a free feature that makes it so the minutes used via Wifi calling do NOT count against your purchased minutes. Second, you can use Wifi calling when travelling outside of the US to call and text back to the US, or people in the US can call and text you. And if you have the free feature added, none of those minutes will count against your total purchased minutes either. I have used both of these benefits extensively and they are wonderful.
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How do you get this free feature? I've always thought it was ludicrous that wifi calling counted against my minutes, but since I used so rarely back then I really didn't care, but recently at work I get no signal and have been using the wifi calling a lot more.
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Interesting to read about this feature.
Is it basically possible to connect to any wifi net ( usually there is a password protection) or do you basically need your providers ones?

If the WiFi is password protected, you need the credentials to establish a WiFi connection before using this feature.
*It is not restricted to provider-only networks. You can use any WiFi network you have access to, and that you phone can connect to.

Droidificator said:
How do you get this free feature? I've always thought it was ludicrous that wifi calling counted against my minutes, but since I used so rarely back then I really didn't care, but recently at work I get no signal and have been using the wifi calling a lot more.
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In your t-mobile account, you should have Wifi-calling as one of the free features. If it isn't there, add it manually or call them and add it. The minutes over wifi are still logged and counted, but don't count towards you package (so you can see how much you use wifi calling, but not pay for it).

WCCobra said:
If the WiFi is password protected, you need the credentials to establish a WiFi connection before using this feature.
*It is not restricted to provider-only networks. You can use any WiFi network you have access to, and that you phone can connect to.
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It seems to be comparable to the TMO "Hot-Spots" here in Germany in which you can log in for free by signing certain contracts or paying additional fee.
The other thing is connecting to WiFi resulting in a VOIP connection.
Ok, got that now. I didn't know that this feature is that popular in the States. As e.g. Germany geographically isn't a 'big' country we have a very good coverage with our big providers.
@home: I'll have to check my Fritz!Box. AVM offers an app for WiFi calling for mobiles. Interesting stuff.
Well, thanks so far for your answers and your time.

WiFi calling

Has anyone gotten the T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling features to work on the moto x?
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Doubt it. There was a huge bounty for someone to get it working on the nexus 4. Never happened. Probably won't happen here either.

I'm on Republic Wireless, our moto x is a modded sprint phone. My WiFi calling works amazing.
PS I used to be on T-Mobile with my HTC One. I just couldn't resist the savings that RW gives me.
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EeyoreSyndrome said:
I'm on Republic Wireless, our moto x is a modded sprint phone. My WiFi calling works amazing.
PS I used to be on T-Mobile with my HTC One. I just couldn't resist the savings that RW gives me.
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How's sprint service? I'm tempted, but everything I hear about it is horrible. I had sprint before and it was bad, especially data.

I had sprint before actually. I had a GSII that I bought on contract 30 days before the GSIII announced and launched. So I was stuck with a 4G wimax phone in an area where we have no sort of 4G. And I was stuck paying for that useless 4G.
I'm happy with republic since with WiFi I don't worry about call reception. And it roams on Verizon if needed.
And for data plans I can pay and use 3G if I wanted to or 4G if it ever comes here. But I'm happy not having data when driving or shopping. And only paying $10 makes me happy with that decision.
But yes I won't lie. Sprints 3G is usually abysmal. My fiancée just got an iPhone 5S on sprints one up. Now he's paying $96/month for the same service I get on a ****ty iSheep device.
If I wanted to use 4G I'd only have to pay $40/month and thats comparable to T-Mobile pre and postpaid. And republic let's you switxh plans twice a month if you want. They are talking of simply selling buckets of data too for people like me that are happy with just cell calls And texts with WiFi only data, but occasionally wish we had a bit of mobile data.
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I have sprint, how do I use Wi-Fi calling?
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No input on Wi-Fi calling but I will chime in on Sprint services with the Moto X!
I am coming from and 18 month old Evo LTE, rooted to the Moto X with the Sprint SIM card installed (bought from MotoMaker Cyber Monday) Had to activate the phone through a chat conversation on the activation website.
-I will admit that I am now actually very pleased with Sprint service in my area....
-It actually connects really well to 4G and STAYS connected....
-It (usually) re-connects to 4G when in an area of 4G unlike with my Evo (meaning it would sometimes connect to 4G then the next day I wouldn't even be able to connect to force 4G in the same location)
-The Sprint 4G speeds SUCK at best though. Check Sensorly speeds in my 4G area..... you may see a 14mb but average would MAYBE be 6MB, me that's 3G speeds.
-I still am thinking of dropping Sprint. Sure it's unlimited but Sprint has taught me to rely on Wi-Fi.

Well doing some research I found that republic wireless uses sprint signal. Even doing a coverage check they say to look at sprints maps. So I also seen that bringing a sprint phone to republic wireless is not possible because of republics wifi calling or what they call hybrid calling has specific code baked into their phones Rom.
So with that info how hard would it be to extract that features code from their Roms for use on Sprint phone s? Or could a Sprint phone flash a republic rom and be able to use that wifi calling feature on Sprint.

Wifi Calling has always been closed source and will never be available on 3rd party ROM......If something change it would be #1 news on XDA

So just to put this out there. My cousin has a HTC one sprint phone and he was complaining how it kept popping up something about unable to connect to WiFi calling whenever he tried to call someone. I took a look at his phone and were settings in his phone related to WiFi calling. But it was wanting account information or a sip account. Thought that was interesting.
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dobbs3x said:
So just to put this out there. My cousin has a HTC one sprint phone and he was complaining how it kept popping up something about unable to connect to WiFi calling whenever he tried to call someone. I took a look at his phone and were settings in his phone related to WiFi calling. But it was wanting account information or a sip account. Thought that was interesting.
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What does that have to do with T-Mobile WiFi Calling?

dobbs3x said:
So just to put this out there. My cousin has a HTC one sprint phone and he was complaining how it kept popping up something about unable to connect to WiFi calling whenever he tried to call someone. I took a look at his phone and were settings in his phone related to WiFi calling. But it was wanting account information or a sip account. Thought that was interesting.
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I think the SIP internet calling options were added waaay back in GB?. Maybe it wasn't until ICS. OP wants native wifi calling. Google Voice + Groove IP is about as close as you can get for now.

Odd, I thought you could activate Internet Calling with a build.prop change & something in the permissions folder... Noticed I had it on my CM10.1.3 Galaxy Note.
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johnny grep said:
Odd, I thought you could activate Internet Calling with a build.prop change & something in the permissions folder... Noticed I had it on my CM10.1.3 Galaxy Note.
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"Tmobile WIFI Calling" is NOT the same as internet calling

kolyan said:
"Tmobile WIFI Calling" is NOT the same as internet calling
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I know...

[Q] Any N5 rom that has wifi calling ?

really considering jumping over since they pay the ETF
its not a mandatory feature but i safety cushion i know normally the wifi calling is only on t-mobile branded phones and wifi calling is not normally a part of the nexus line
so has any dev found a way to get this working on the n5

No. And if you go to T-mobile with the new deal, you have to turn in a phone and buy a new phone.

lowandbehold said:
No. And if you go to T-mobile with the new deal, you have to turn in a phone and buy a new phone.
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yes i have read all about it

lowandbehold said:
No. And if you go to T-mobile with the new deal, you have to turn in a phone and buy a new phone.
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T-Mobile n5 does not have WiFi calling
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seshaz said:
T-Mobile n5 does not have WiFi calling
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The first word of his post indicated that he knew that
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what is wifi calling?? i never had tmobile? i have sprint..

P.Mobile said:
what is wifi calling?? i never had tmobile? i have sprint..
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In short, T-Mobile is known to have spotty coverage so they have a proprietary software that allows you to leverage wifi connection to make phone calls. Pretty great actually if you have a phone that supports it.

skyo12 said:
In short, T-Mobile is known to have spotty coverage so they have a proprietary software that allows you to leverage wifi connection to make phone calls. Pretty great actually if you have a phone that supports it.
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and there's been a $1400+ bounty for wifi calling on nexus 4, no one's claimed it
so don't count on having wifi calling on nexus 5.
t-mobile do have femtocells (basically a small cell site inside your house), dunno the difficulty in getting one, or that you should even consider moving to t-mobile if your home reception is that bad.
also, t-mobile only sells the 16gb of n5.
I have a nexus 5, also have a really old froyo t-mobile android phone with wifi calling if I were to travel overseas

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and there's been a $1400+ bounty for wifi calling on nexus 4, no one's claimed it
so don't count on having wifi calling on nexus 5.
t-mobile do have femtocells (basically a small cell site inside your house), dunno the difficulty in getting one, or that you should even consider moving to t-mobile if your home reception is that bad.
also, t-mobile only sells the 16gb of n5.
I have a nexus 5, also have a really old froyo t-mobile android phone with wifi calling if I were to travel overseas
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T-Mobile does not have femtocells all they have is cell repeaters.