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HTC Desire S vs. LG Optimus 2X

Hi all, please help me decide if i should get the this or the lg 2x... Is this phone still good and powerful enough or should i be looking to the dual cores? This phone isnt a high end device anymore, so htc arent supporting it with updates (sense 3.0) that has really dissapoimted me as i was looking forward to the update and the hardware is capable of using it. Its just htcs scam to squeeze morr profits,,
Help please?
So is it worth it? Or should i get the lg2x... I heard it has some bugs though..
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olyloh6696 said:
Hi all, please help me decide if i should get the this or the lg 2x... Is this phone still good and powerful enough or should i be looking to the dual cores? This phone isnt a high end device anymore, so htc arent supporting it with updates (sense 3.0) that has really dissapoimted me as i was looking forward to the update and the hardware is capable of using it. Its just htcs scam to squeeze morr profits,,
Help please?
So is it worth it? Or should i get the lg2x... I heard it has some bugs though..
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i doubt the hardware of the DS is enough for sense 3.0 because on one of the videos that i saw of sense 3.0 the dual core seemed to lagg a bit (or it could be sense is still under development & needs works)
i saw a few threads about random reboot on lg 2x
but if you want a dual core why not consider htc sensation or evo 3d?

kartkk said:
i doubt the hardware of the DS is enough for sense 3.0 because on one of the videos that i saw of sense 3.0 the dual core seemed to lagg a bit (or it could be sense is still under development & needs works)
i saw a few threads about random reboot on lg 2x
but if you want a dual core why not consider htc sensation or evo 3d?
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Thanks for the speedy reply! There is some controversy over sense 3.0 requirements. Over at the dhd forums,they have a port of sense 3.0! It is apparently working smooth! So htc could have been lying! Of course i would want official updates rather than a custom ROM, therefore i hope htc will release sense 3.0.
I hope lg fix the random reboot problem. The lg has been known to have mAny bugs!
I cannot consider the evo, because 1) i live in uk
2) i dislike 3d screens!
The sensation looks good, but i cAnt afford it, therfore i wad looking for a cheap dual core altenative - lg 2x.
Ideally if i could have a dualcore, id like the sgs 2! Thanks for opinions, but would you recommend this phone?
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olyloh6696 said:
Thanks for the speedy reply! There is some controversy over sense 3.0 requirements. Over at the dhd forums,they have a port of sense 3.0! It is apparently working smooth! So htc could have been lying! Of course i would want official updates rather than a custom ROM, therefore i hope htc will release sense 3.0.
I hope lg fix the random reboot problem. The lg has been known to have mAny bugs!
I cannot consider the evo, because 1) i live in uk
2) i dislike 3d screens!
The sensation looks good, but i cAnt afford it, therfore i wad looking for a cheap dual core altenative - lg 2x.
Ideally if i could have a dualcore, id like the sgs 2! Thanks for opinions, but would you recommend this phone?
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i dont have the phone yet so i cant comment much about it...
but i think im still getting this phone because
1.i hate LG
2.i love htc sense (a custom rom is good enough actually its better for me)
3.LG service is VERY bad in my area (it gives me headaches)
4.i really dont need a dual core now as i am not going to play a lot of games & dont mind a little lag in videos
i am considering samsung galaxy s2 but wont be getting it if the price is a bit high...(cant push my budget beyond 550 USD)
i also found a post on lg otimus 2x forum saying that it gets stuck during playback (this probably will get fixed as it is a software issue)

kartkk said:
i dont have the phone yet so i cant comment much about it...
but i think im still getting this phone because
1.i hate LG
2.i love htc sense (a custom rom is good enough actually its better for me)
3.LG service is VERY bad in my area (it gives me headaches)
4.i really dont need a dual core now as i am not going to play a lot of games & dont mind a little lag in videos
i am considering samsung galaxy s2 but wont be getting it if the price is a bit high...(cant push my budget beyond 550 USD)
i also found a post on lg otimus 2x forum saying that it gets stuck during playback (this probably will get fixed as it is a software issue)
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Thanks! I have just been reading some threads here, and i may have changed my mind! The ds is quite good! There will be no real need of dual cores as many phones wont be supported yet with dual core. And the ds is cheap at o2 now (i suspect it will be even cheaper by summer!)
You say you like htc sense... But are you bothered about not getting the sense 3.0 update?
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olyloh6696 said:
Thanks! I have just been reading some threads here, and i may have changed my mind! The ds is quite good! There will be no real need of dual cores as many phones wont be supported yet with dual core. And the ds is cheap at o2 now (i suspect it will be even cheaper by summer!)
You say you like htc sense... But are you bothered about not getting the sense 3.0 update?
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yes i am bothered a bit
a custom sense 3.0 rom would be good
it is just that i dont consider the difference between sense 2.1 & sense 3.0 a dealbreaker (atleast for now from the engadget preview of sense 3.0)

kartkk said:
yes i am bothered a bit
a custom sense 3.0 rom would be good
it is just that i dont consider the difference between sense 2.1 & sense 3.0 a dealbreaker (atleast for now but htc will add more features)
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Yeh hopefully! My dilema is to boast that i have a dual core high end phone, thats buggy, or i have a great phone, but is standard mid range....
Decisions!
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olyloh6696 said:
Yeh hopefully! My dilema is to boast that i have a dual core high end phone, thats buggy, or i have a great phone, but is standard mid range....
Decisions!
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i think you should also consider the forum community
lg optimus 2x has quite a large community unlike the DS community(hope it gets bigger )

kartkk said:
i think you should also consider the forum community
lg optimus 2x has quite a large community unlike the DS community(hope it gets bigger )
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Yeh, i guess i hav to consider that! I just saw some comparison vids with the 2x and dhd (same specs at ds) and the dual core isnt really that benificial. It beats the dhd by 1-2 secs in web pages, not much at all!! I exoected much more! If thats the case, i'll settle for the ds!
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Actually realy considering thd phone now!! Watch all the phonearena vids, they are awesome and make you wamt the phone more!
Only concern is the small screen, coming from a 4.1 screen... And imo, the design isntas nice as the hd2 industrial square shape design!!
What do you guys think?
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i cant believe what im reading
at full usage a dual core is min. 2x as powerful as a single core
i didnt even start about graphics

mariu$ said:
i cant believe what im reading
at full usage a dual core is min. 2x as powerful as a single core
i didnt even start about graphics
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Hi! Sorry what exactly do you mean, can you pls explain it a little clearer?
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tegra 2 - x operations per second
snapdragon - y operations per second
x>2y
therefore if pages are stored on the phone, they will open 2 times faster

mariu$ said:
tegra 2 - x operations per second
snapdragon - y operations per second
x>2y
therefore if pages are stored on the phone, they will open 2 times faster
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thanks, but that is not the case! if you watch some vids speed test of tegra 2 vs snapdragon, the spees are both the same! the 2x occsionally beats the dhd (snapdragon) by only 1-2 secs, not alot faster!

Regarding the Sense 3.0 which says won't be porting to the old devices our at least to the newly released. Theres an article on techradar that HTC Taiwan had twitted that some elements of Sense 3.0 maybe ported to their old devices. We just have to wait and see.

@TS
If you feel that the LG 2X really do meet your requirement, then by all means get the 2X. Thinking that it will be getting a Gingerbread update soon and might fix all bugs and may improve performance.
But as for me...very satisfied with Desire S

olyloh6696 said:
Yeh, i guess i hav to consider that! I just saw some comparison vids with the 2x and dhd (same specs at ds) and the dual core isnt really that benificial. It beats the dhd by 1-2 secs in web pages, not much at all!! I exoected much more! If thats the case, i'll settle for the ds!
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that is because loading webpages is more dependent on connection speed than processing power
where the real difference comes in is during gaming & watching videos
so if these two are important you should get a dualcore phone
from the community at lg2x i think they will fix the video playback issue in their custom roms (if lg doesn't fix them sooner)

titus1 said:
Regarding the Sense 3.0 which says won't be porting to the old devices our at least to the newly released. Theres an article on techradar that HTC Taiwan had twitted that some elements of Sense 3.0 maybe ported to their old devices. We just have to wait and see.
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good news

kartkk said:
good news
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thanks titus + kartkk
tbh, i dont watch videos on my phone much! and i am quite already satisfied with the gaming performance on single core! and the battery on the lg is crap, the battery on the ds is known to be excellent.
So what other benifits does the dual core have?

olyloh6696 said:
thanks titus + kartkk
tbh, i dont watch videos on my phone much! and i am quite already satisfied with the gaming performance on single core! and the battery on the lg is crap, the battery on the ds is known to be excellent.
So what other benifits does the dual core have?
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it is only a matter of time before games which work only on the new dual core phones with super GPU are developed
another benefit of dual core is multi tasking is easier
(some people claim battery life is better but i dont know)

hopefully tmobile does get the exynos version

http://m.samsung.com/us/article/explore-the-galaxy-s-ii
Only phone that will make me jump ship.....maybe lol also if u read we are getting the monster 4.5 inch screen

Dog by the time it drops 1.5 ghz will be here.. Won't really be cutting edge any more.
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Yea true, but dude 1ghz and 1.5 ghz is only a little noticeably different, what I mean is g2x is sick quick how much faster can we get? lol ya know, still got some mean specs tho and I'm guessing cuz of the overseas version everything should be pretty easy to port over

To me we have reached the zenith of specs in the android world (albeit that will be for a short period of time). Will it have active development is the real issue to me. This phone has proven you can have killer specs yet little interest from the developer community. I wasn't here in the beginning but I have a feeling all the problems the first batch of this phone had scared everyone away and scared anyone wanting to get it away from doing so.
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I thought exnos doesn't support 42mbs which is what Tmo wants, so it'll be qualcomm...
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Just an odd question - Why so much discussion on the SGSII in the G2x forum?
Not that I'm not interested in that phone, just that it seems out of place.

phaet2112 said:
I thought exnos doesn't support 42mbs which is what Tmo wants, so it'll be qualcomm...
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Yep, T-Mobile wants to brag about speeds no one will get to use even if it means destroying beautiful hardware in the process. No wonder the company is struggling.
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phaet2112 said:
I thought exnos doesn't support 42mbs which is what Tmo wants, so it'll be qualcomm...
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Where did u hear that I'd like to see that and I'm sure that's something small they could change believe me, and jaiav just something to bull**** about man

How does this phone have no interest in the developer community lol. Do you not read the p999 specific commits in cm? We have mui builds, some of the most gifted kernel devs. Sensation has a bunch of similar roms with asthetic changes and no cm.
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sarni84 said:
Where did u hear that I'd like to see that and I'm sure that's something small they could change believe me, and jaiav just something to bull**** about man
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Here you go bro, these guys are legit.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4714/why-i-believe-tmobiles-galaxy-s-ii-uses-a-qualcomm-soc

phaet2112 said:
I thought exnos doesn't support 42mbs which is what Tmo wants, so it'll be qualcomm...
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The Exynos is the cpu. The speed of data is controlled by the baseband. You'll have to wait and see what baseband chip they use in it.

jboxer said:
The Exynos is the cpu. The speed of data is controlled by the baseband. You'll have to wait and see what baseband chip they use in it.
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The problem has something to do with the Exynos using the Intel modem which doesn't support 42Mbps.

mr mystery said:
The problem has something to do with the Exynos using the Intel modem which doesn't support 42Mbps.
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This is what I read. Probably easier to just swap in a different processor than to create a compatibility between Exynos and a new baseband chip.

There are no baseband chips that support 42Mbps. The fastest one that I know of is the Qualcomm baseband used in the G2X which support 21Mbps.

jboxer said:
There are no baseband chips that support 42Mbps. The fastest one that I know of is the Qualcomm baseband used in the G2X which support 21Mbps.
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The tmobile rocket modem supports 42.

KingDavid63 said:
Dog by the time it drops 1.5 ghz will be here.. Won't really be cutting edge any more.
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Just what I was thinking. It's tempting to get the phone, but Prime will come soon after.
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Unfortunately, if T-Mobile is really pushing the 42mbps feature on this phone, it'll be using some variant of the Qualcomm chip, either 1.2 ghz or 1.5 ghz dual-core (some folks at the Galaxy S4G forums allegedly was informed by a rep that it will be sporting a 1.5ghz chip from Qualcomm).
If it is indeed a Qualcomm chip, I strongly suggest you guys pass, cause I know I will. If I'm not mistaken, all these phone chips are all-in-one, meaning that the GPU on the T-Mobile variant will sport some form of Adreno, maybe the 220 as found in the Touchpad?
What made the european version of the GS2 a beast was the custom drivers written by Samsung for the Exynos and its GPU. GPU-acceleration! If they swap over to Qualcomm, I'm not holding my breath for Samsung to spend money writing a custom GPU driver to push for GPU acceleration under the Qualcomm framework. If anything, to compensate for the lack of GPU acceleration, they're likely to just chuck a 1.5 ghz Qualcomm chip in there (which lends some credit to what the other guys are saying at the Galaxy S4G forum).
Just some of my thoughts. It's looking like the T-Mobile variant of the GS2 might be the weakest of the lot this time around.
Exynos > Snapdragon any day, week, year.
P.S. I've also played with the European version of the GS2 for a couple of months and boy is that phone awesome.

PoisonWolf said:
Unfortunately, if T-Mobile is really pushing the 42mbps feature on this phone, it'll be using some variant of the Qualcomm chip, either 1.2 ghz or 1.5 ghz dual-core (some folks at the Galaxy S4G forums allegedly was informed by a rep that it will be sporting a 1.5ghz chip from Qualcomm).
If it is indeed a Qualcomm chip, I strongly suggest you guys pass, cause I know I will. If I'm not mistaken, all these phone chips are all-in-one, meaning that the GPU on the T-Mobile variant will sport some form of Adreno, maybe the 220 as found in the Touchpad?
What made the european version of the GS2 a beast was the custom drivers written by Samsung for the Exynos and its GPU. GPU-acceleration! If they swap over to Qualcomm, I'm not holding my breath for Samsung to spend money writing a custom GPU driver to push for GPU acceleration under the Qualcomm framework. If anything, to compensate for the lack of GPU acceleration, they're likely to just chuck a 1.5 ghz Qualcomm chip in there (which lends some credit to what the other guys are saying at the Galaxy S4G forum).
Just some of my thoughts. It's looking like the T-Mobile variant of the GS2 might be the weakest of the lot this time around.
Exynos > Snapdragon any day, week, year.
P.S. I've also played with the European version of the GS2 for a couple of months and boy is that phone awesome.
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I really hope if it is a Qualcomm crap CPU that the sales are extremely poor. Sadly though the general public knows squat and it will most likely still sell well with the galaxy name attached to it, even though it really doesn't deserve that title.
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If we get the **** one out if the batch I'm gonna be pissed. But it looks more and more like that's gonna be the case. I'm pissed.
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xsteven77x said:
If we get the **** one out if the batch I'm gonna be pissed. But it looks more and more like that's gonna be the case. I'm pissed.
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This is why T-Mobile is struggling and the reason only AT&T was willing to buy them. Management is pathetic.

What makes the g2x so special

I coming from htc g2 and all i got to say is that i am disappointed I though I was making a big jump changing to this phone but I was wrong.i was able to over clock my g2 to 1.8 ghz and have a very snappy phone with good battery life now with the g2x its the other way around I tried all the roms and theres always something or some kind of bug with them. Is there some thing special about tegra that I am missing out on!
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It sucks, you might as well leave now.
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Please do leave. Considering you have no concept of how a processor works. Our phone is DUAL CORE which means if we overclock to 1.55 (the highest we can go) it's basically 3 ghz and the g2 is 1.8 overclocked. This phone is actually 10x better than the g2 and is a worthy upgrade, but I don't think you're worthy...

You have Tegra 2 games advantage. Browser performance is probably little bit faster on G2X even though they both can probably only do 480p Adobe Flash at max.

It sucks, you might as well leave now.
I never said it sucked! All I am saying is if its one of the tegra phones why is is so buggy.
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Don't get me wrong and don't get mad I like the phone but there's something missing. You can't really tell the difference between this two I used to stream live TV on my g2 no problem and with the g2x it lags like crazy.
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nraudigy2 said:
You have Tegra 2 games advantage. Browser performance is probably little bit faster on G2X even though they both can probably only do 480p Adobe Flash at max.
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There is notqa huge selection of games that I can recall
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jonathann0222 said:
There is notqa huge selection of games that I can recall
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http://www.tegrazone.com/games
Now I'm planning on getting this phone and have heard some good things about its speed. I sold my MT4G not to long ago and I think any dual core phone if quicker than what I had, I doubt the G2X is so terrible on Ginger.

It would help if you told us the problems with ur phone so we can help to get it fixed.
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probably one of the best up to date phones that has vanilla android. cant stand sense that much

Well the G2 is a good solid phone. It's been out for much longer and is seasoned and tweaked to run well. I had a Nexus One and it worked pretty well.
One thing you have to realize is that Android doesn't even take advantage of dual cores yet, not until Ice Cream Sandwich. ICS also will bring (supposedly) whole UI graphic acceleration (like Win7 and iOS) for smooth transitions and fancy effects.
So while what you say is true, (My G2 was just as fast as the G2x), you are speaking in terms of NOW. But the G2x has some power under its hood. If Android can unlock the GPU for its UI, we'll definitely have the fastest phone out there.
As far as Streaming TV and video, that sounds like an app issue. You came from a second generation Snapdragon which was widely supported to a Tegra 2 which is new and fresh. Different apps run differently on different chipsets. If you use a Video player that properly utilizes the Tegra's, you'll have smooth playback. Bandwidth also comes into play. I stream Netflix all the time and have no issues, just depends on where you are. Hotels usually throttle network utilization so everyone can grab a piece of the pie, especially voice, video and P2P traffic. I typically have no issue at hotels either and I travel a LOT.
Perhaps it would be beneficial to tell us your setup. Rom, kernel, apps, etc.
I run MIUI 1.9.23 and no special kernel (ATM) or use Faux's 4.2 SV Kernel at normal speeds. I don't OC or UV or anything fancy. MIUI still has its issues but overall works great and is a joy to use.
MIUI, CM7, or Weapon is the best choices IMO. Weapon works VERY well but I think its butt ugly coming from MIUI or CM7 themes (no offense!). CM7 and MIUI work great but will probably never be perfect (because they are always changing and adding stuff) where Weapon is going after a stock-like perfection.
Also lots of the issues of the custom roms regarding WiFi Calling and APN issues are thought to be caused by the SIM card or related. I ordered a SUPER OLD never used SIM card off ebay, the old style, and will do some testing to see if I get any better results. Cost me $5.50 total and if it works, it will be money well spent. Good luck Jim.

i love the phone i used to have a Garminfone and this is 100 times better

Can't wait for this phone to show it's true power with ICS.

d12unk13astard said:
Can't wait for this phone to show it's true power with ICS.
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If the devs port ICS we will see it, LG won't be giving us anymore updates. G2X is dead to them.

Oh no doubt, my statement was based on the deb's porting it to all our devices. I know LG isn't gonna release any more updates or OTA cuz they suck. Without our devs our phones would never see ICS and therefore be obsolete long time ago.
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I know LG is probably not gonna have an icecream sandwich update for this phone but don't they have to update like legally? I could be wrong
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moeahmad1995 said:
I know LG is probably not gonna have an icecream sandwich update for this phone but don't they have to update like legally? I could be wrong
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There is no legal binding about the update. Even the GB update was to fix the issues they had and save their brand-name.
I remember how Samsung made us waiting for more than 6 months for 2.2 update for Vibrant.

Mister Hat said:
Please do leave. Considering you have no concept of how a processor works. Our phone is DUAL CORE which means if we overclock to 1.55 (the highest we can go) it's basically 3 ghz and the g2 is 1.8 overclocked. This phone is actually 10x better than the g2 and is a worthy upgrade, but I don't think you're worthy...
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Please do leave, You sir have no concept of how a processor works. If you over clock to 1.55 Its clocked at 1.55, Its not 3ghz because you can add both together. It just does not work like that, Tasks that are made to run on one core don't become suddenly faster because of the extra core helping out, The extra core hardly helps out at all. The only reason why the tegra 2 is Snappy is because of the CPU architecture and the gpu that's bolted in. Benchmarks don't mean a thing if a Snapdragon MSM8255 can run toe to toe with the Tegra 2 in applications.

The G2x is an awesome phone. I think that you just have not found a ROM that suites your needs. My wife has a G2 and she is all the time saying that she wants to switch phones because hers is so slow. Hers is rooted and overclocked to 1.5Ghz. Like someone said before tell us your problems and let us help you get your phone working right for you. Trust me people on this forum site can get your phone working properly for you.

x0xhellx0x said:
i love the phone i used to have a Garminfone and this is 100 times better
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I am so happy for you.....seriouslyI work for Garmin (@Headquarters) and I wouldn't dare buy a Garminfone

Just wanted to say....

Farewell to my Sky rocket community. Its has been fun I had this bad boy for 9 months the longest I ever hAD A PHONE..LOL. and the longest Ive been part of such a talented community i will miss reading those FLAMES and general rants and the occasional thefts... those who been around know..lol some of the sickest development I ever had the pleasure of tinkering with to make this phone a monster. hats off to the DEVS who are truly ANDROIDS!!
just sold this s o b for $250 and tomorrow its GS III time.. hope to see you guys over there... CHEERS!!

bori1030 said:
Farewell to my Sky rocket community. Its has been fun I had this bad boy for 9 months the longest I ever hAD A PHONE..LOL. and the longest Ive been part of such a talented community i will miss reading those FLAMES and general rants and the occasional thefts... those who been around know..lol some of the sickest development I ever had the pleasure of tinkering with to make this phone a monster. hats off to the DEVS who are truly ANDROIDS!!
just sold this s o b for $250 and tomorrow its GS III time.. hope to see you guys over there... CHEERS!!
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:'(..................................cya......................

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:'(..................................cya......................
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lol... hope to see you over there cooking one day

9 months >. > where do people go to piss money to buy new phones so often?
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dakpluto said:
9 months >. > where do people go to piss money to buy new phones so often?
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Buy/Sell, pay difference

dakpluto said:
9 months >. > where do people go to piss money to buy new phones so often?
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craigslist bro just sold my skyrocket for $250 there and Ive had an upgrade Ive been saving on my line for a while so i get the gs 3 for 199.99 when i got my skyrocket i used another line's upgrade back in nov.
its called phone flipping get on board my man..

but we are getting so shafted on the dual core T999... why you no buy international

JERM^ said:
but we are getting so shafted on the dual core T999... why you no buy international
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I wouldn't really say shafted, the dual core is faster and more power efficient than the previous S3 CPU and you get 2GB of ram rather than 1GB making multitasking much smoother. I've been hearing the Exynos quad to be a monster at eating battery if not tweaked (disable 2 cores etc...) and there are barely any apps/games that support more than 1 thread for phones aside from benchmarks. Thats pretty much like getting a 6 or 8 core CPU for PC yet the games/programs you use only use 2-4 cores and the only real benefit is if you use 3d programing/rendering/casting/encoding etc... but if you go to phone usage, doubt many utilize the full dual core.
So while the S4 only has 2 cores its still fast, if you have a quad core version of it you get this:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/24/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-pro-apq8064-benchmark/
And we know getting that type of benchmark wont really be battery friendly will it?

later man. enjoy the gs3.

Bros before phones?
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Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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sly-tendencies said:
Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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Not really but it's still nice
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orlandoxpolice said:
Not really but it's still nice
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I messed with one today, been trying to figure out where to get good $$$ for my skyrocket

sly-tendencies said:
Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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Two generations better CPU, a slightly better GPU, a higher resolution from 480x800 to 720x1280, longer battery life, more efficient LTE with better signal, better build, zero lag shutter camera...yes, its a big leap
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M0D1441 said:
Two generations better CPU, a slightly better GPU, a higher resolution from 480x800 to 720x1280, longer battery life, more efficient LTE with better signal, better build, zero lag shutter camera...yes, its a big leap
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Not big enough for me to take
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What exactly will a better CPU offer, at this moment. I mean that in the sense that I don't see where my experience would improve in any way. Perhaps SwiftKey won't have an occasional hick up but even that's no guarantee. Besides that there's nothing I can do on an S3 that won't operate with the same usability as it would on my S2.
Still, to each his own, for me the only improvement would be resolution which I would unfortunately ruin with the nice feel of a matte anti glare cover. What I want is an S3 with guaranteed software updates going forward. Meaning ill be waiting until the next Nexus.
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sly-tendencies said:
Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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If we take from a hardware standpoint here are the key differences:
CPU:
Snapdragon S3 MSM8260 45nm 1.5GHz (Dual Core)-> Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 28nm 1.5GHz (Dual Core)
(Here we see the die shrink, with die shrinks on new architecture you can see battery improvements, temperature improvements and clock per clock speeds its faster)
GPU:
Adreno 220 -> Adreno 225
RAM:
1GB Single Channel -> 2GB Dual Channel
Display:
480x800 -> 720x1280
Gorilla Glass 1 -> Gorilla Glass 2
Of course there is a lot of other features/hardware that are "better" such as camera and stock battery etc...
In terms of the phone itself, the SR is not lacking since its still a dual core phones while other phones are still single and working their way to dual core. Quad core are starting to arise but they wont be as efficient for a while since the games/apps we use will not take advantage of all the cores. That being said by the time we do utilize them most likely there will be a newer and better hardware. Also 720p may start becoming the next standard in display as "HD" is making its way onto phones. If you think about hardware difference, think of Samsung Galaxy S2 as 1, Skyrocket as 1.5 and Galaxy S3 as 2. S3 (North America) is still dual core but it is an efficient/fast CPU.
Good example of this is like PC specs:
Q6600 = Quad (65nm)
Q9550 = Quad (45nm)
i5 760 = Quad (45nm)
i5 2500K = Quad (32nm)
i5 3570K = Quad (28nm)
What I mean about that is the standard has started to become quad in the CPU/laptop world but the big difference is the efficiency(power consumption), speed (clock per clock) and maybe other supported hardware features.
So is it a big step up?.... Yes and no, yes because hardwarewise it is better but the SR isnt lacking to the point where ICS/JB lags on it or any other apps/games atm. Of course if you have insane graphical games maybe it will slug the SR in terms of performance but thats entirely on what you use it for. Ask the same question next year and you'll probably hear the same, the S3 is not lacking but xxx (S4 or whatever is "faster"). Technology will always get better its just whether you want to pay to get the latest and greatest or not.
I buy my gear based on my use. You wont see me buying computers that are 6-8 cores, Quad SLI/CFX video cards or whatever because I don't need them lol. My hardware is fully capable of playing the current games so thats what I usually upgrade for, my uses.
If you compare the SR to the S3 of course you will see a good difference but if you only use the phone for facebook, instagram, twitter, calling, texting, whatever, the SR can do those. Now if it can't do those and its slow and always dying on you and programs aren't working and super super sluggish then yeah those are the reasons for the upgrade.
Now if we go to the development side yes, phones like Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S2 (original) and Galaxy S3 will have big support as most people get them when they first come out so if you want to look for it in that view they have more popularity. Some people want to get the phones that everyones getting while others don't want the "same exact" one but on a similar page.

Way to go and spoon feed insane amount of info lol... Good stuff
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JERM^ said:
but we are getting so shafted on the dual core T999... why you no buy international
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international does not support LTE and these two are faster plus 2gb of RAM

M0D1441 said:
Two generations better CPU, a slightly better GPU, a higher resolution from 480x800 to 720x1280, longer battery life, more efficient LTE with better signal, better build, zero lag shutter camera...yes, its a big leap
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couldnt have said it better ..

im angry at asus, suggest another tablet?

im quite angry at asus for issues with my TF700, how they supply the tools to void your warranty on a bootloader thats unfixable with any means so that they can charge people to reflash the bootloaders... it makes me angry that theyd do this...
i really liked the features of this tablet.. 1080P+ screen, tegra 3 processor, great cameras with flash... but now im just really disappointed, and i want something thatll actually allow me to work with custom roms, i wanted to get all of the useless nonsense off my tablet, strip it down to the features i only cares about and not have tons of bloatware...
are there any tablets of equal performance and hardware features that is more friendly towards this?
the acer A700 looked nice but i really like the LED flash, makes great pictures even better, and i used it as a flashlight too
i see googles coming out with a nexus 10, but since these are made by asus i have a feeling theyre going to have the same problems, also, i dont believe its a tegra 3 processor?
what would your recommendations be?

Erm, maybe a Nexus 10?
Btw, someone is going to give you a link to this thread anyway, so I'll just save them the trouble: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
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actually.. i just read a nexus 10 is made by samsung, not asus... interesting... hmm, how does the nexus 10s processor stand up to a 1.6ghz tegra 3 though?

jason41987 said:
actually.. i just read a nexus 10 is made by samsung, not asus... interesting... hmm, how does the nexus 10s processor stand up to a 1.6ghz tegra 3 though?
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It has an Exynos 5250. Quad-Core 1.7 GHz ARM15 (!). Yes, ARM15. Total monster processor. No mobile CPU beats it
There's a catch. Cyanogenmod dropped official support for all Exynos CPUs, but that shouldn't be a problem because it's a Nexus device, so you should expect a ridiculous amount of development and plenty of unofficial CM
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gagdude said:
It has an Exynos 5250. Quad-Core 1.7 GHz ARM15 (!). Yes, ARM15. Total monster processor. No mobile CPU beats it
There's a catch. Cyanogenmod dropped official support for all Exynos CPUs, but that shouldn't be a problem because it's a Nexus device, so you should expect a ridiculous amount of development and plenty of unofficial CM
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so in short... the nexus 10 is the absolute beast of a tablet that puts all tablets its size to shame... with a higher resolution screen is it the true ipad killer people have been wanting?

jason41987 said:
so in short... the nexus 10 is the absolute beast of a tablet that puts all tablets its size to shame... with a higher resolution screen is it the true ipad killer people have been wanting?
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Oh heck yes baby!
Problem 1... damn hard to get one in the Nexus rush 32GBs out of stock and maybe 16GB too...? Have to wait a while, but that's a good thing to let them sort out any issues with the first batch sold
Btw typo, the CPU is dual core, the GPU is quad core
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