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I have been using Samsung Omnia i900 for last one year guys. Now i intend to get a new phone but there seem to be alot of options out there and it made me confuse. Everyone has an edge over the other in some regard.
I almost went to get an HD2 , My reason being that it can run BOTH OS, WinMo 6.5 and Thanks to dev at xda it can also run Android almost as well. And i am a freak in tryin all the new stuff related to diff OS, so that gives me an edge for HD2, however its touch screen although capacitative wasnt as impressive as iphone 3gs.
And i m not sure how good android is, would the phone still be upgraded.
Please vote for what you think is going to be overall a better choice to go for now with regards to,
OS
Apps
Hardware
Future Development
Regards

Please do also give ur reasons why u suggest a particular phone
Really need help deciding coz i m confused

I would go with the iPhone 4 simply because front facing camera, hd recording, super amoled screen, great gaming device, sleek new design, and the best new "feature" added.. THE DEATH GRIP!

tKoHaXoR said:
I would go with the iPhone 4 simply because front facing camera, hd recording, super amoled screen, great gaming device, sleek new design, and the best new "feature" added.. THE DEATH GRIP!
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the iphone 4 dosent have a super amoled screen, it has a ips lcd screen

AndroHero said:
the iphone 4 dosent have a super amoled screen, it has a ips lcd screen
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or what they call it "Retina display"
mate go for the Desire! amazing device!!

!PANDA said:
or what they call it "Retina display"
mate go for the Desire! amazing device!!
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i agree with ipanda, the hd2 is good but its excessively large screen mixed with the type of lcd it has means the colours are all washed out, the galaxy s has good multi touch and games but the gps is crap, the iphone cant get a signal and the nexus one is just a desire without the optical trackpad and less ram lol

umm Nexus One is also abit cheaper i guess.... Optical trackpad doesnt really matter i guess... but currently its official software doesnt support Multi-TOuch which Sux.
Galaxy doesnt have a Camera FLASH... HOW the hell can Samsung miss that ... LOL
I am tilted for Desire.. But tell me one thing. Is the Android stuff really cutomizable? How about apps like superb 3d games in iphone.. Does android market has similar stuff?
And the MAIN Qs for me...... Whats the future for Desire? I mean new ROMs and New Android OS v3.0 or so will be available for desire or atleast custom roms maybe ?
I heard Android 3.0 is comin after xmas... i really want a device which can be updated with time

Eh... uh.... HTC Desire HD

hey...
and HTC EVO 4G???
my vote is for HD2..

I see I will have to raise my voice a little, HTC DESIRE HD IS GOING TO BE ANNOUNCED 15TH SEPTEMBER, IT WILL HAVE 4X THE POWER OF HTC DESIRE AND 8MPX CAM WITH DUAL LED FLASH. ALSO IT WILL HAVE AN AMAZING 4.3 INCH SCREEN AND ANDROID 2.2
IT WILL BE MOST PROBABLY CHEAPER AND WILL HAVE BETTER BATTERY LIFE. AND AT LAST, HDMI AND KICKSTAND.
THANK YOU
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

HD2 has a massive following here. Im surprised by that!
SGS fo' sure!

Dany0 said:
I see I will have to raise my voice a little, HTC DESIRE HD IS GOING TO BE ANNOUNCED 15TH SEPTEMBER, IT WILL HAVE 4X THE POWER OF HTC DESIRE AND 8MPX CAM WITH DUAL LED FLASH. ALSO IT WILL HAVE AN AMAZING 4.3 INCH SCREEN AND ANDROID 2.2
IT WILL BE MOST PROBABLY CHEAPER AND WILL HAVE BETTER BATTERY LIFE. AND AT LAST, HDMI AND KICKSTAND.
THANK YOU
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Wow thats cool... I can wait a month or so anyhow... Lets just hope its price doesnt go to peaks :S
Can anyone still answer my Qs that ... Will Desire also receive future updates from Android like 3.0 Gingerbread or so?
Coz i want a phone i can update/modify ... So that excludes iphone frm ma list

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-epic-4g-review
Hopefully my link worked. If carriers are not a problem, then I think Sprint's Epic 4g is the best phone out right now. From what I have read there is no GPS problem. It also has a larger slide out QWERTY than Droid 2,it has camara flash, and 4g - if your in covrerage area. Lag problems are also gone. There is the ability to cut off touchwiz in favor of android launcher as well. On my Captivate, the camara takes great photos without flash so camara quality is superb. Plus it has about the most capable CPU you can find coupled with the best gpu available. I bought the iphone4 on day 1 and returned it on Captivates release day and have not regretted it. And yes, its very customizable. Just pick a carrier with options because you can always trade it out within 30 days.
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Azure100 said:
but currently its official software doesnt support Multi-TOuch which Sux.
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nope.
Android supports multitouch since 2.0, but the touchscreen sensor on nexus one is too bad to report multitouch.
Dany0 said:
I see I will have to raise my voice a little, HTC DESIRE HD IS GOING TO BE ANNOUNCED 15TH SEPTEMBER, IT WILL HAVE 4X THE POWER OF HTC DESIRE AND 8MPX CAM WITH DUAL LED FLASH. ALSO IT WILL HAVE AN AMAZING 4.3 INCH SCREEN AND ANDROID 2.2
IT WILL BE MOST PROBABLY CHEAPER AND WILL HAVE BETTER BATTERY LIFE. AND AT LAST, HDMI AND KICKSTAND.
THANK YOU
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Completely bull****.

No Evo 4G option? Now that the bugs have been worked out it's tits.
yeah my last phone was a vogue so I don't have much to compare it to, but there are already people saying they took back their epics after having AMOLED burn-in issues, bad buttons, no gps, etc.

Out of those phones, I think the HD2 has the best value considering its around $100 cheaper than the other ones, but with similar hardware specs. However, I've never owned any of those phones, so I could very well be wrong.
On a side note, if you are really into putting on different OS's and would like a change, you could take a look at the n900 (slower processor but could be overclocked) or even upcoming Nokia N9 (Though it seems like Nokia phones don't receive much love in this forum) . They're going to have the Meego OS, and developers have also ported Android 2.2 to run on the N900 aswell.

Seems like competetion here is between HD2 and Galaxy S, But there is a price difference of 200$ between these two phones, WHich is kinda alot
Extra 200$ for AMOLED 16 M screen, i guess thats the only hardware part where Galaxy/Desire are better than HD2. A small diff in RAM too, but otherwise all hardware specs are similar.

HD2 probably gets bad battery life with android and you could run into some weird bugs, they've done a great job with android, its what prolonged my touch diamonds life. Win mobile is dead, haven't looked back since I got my Evo. Best phone I've ever had, no regrets but there's always something new coming out.
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HD2. Got 4 microsd cards, 3 running different builds of android the other running win mo. Depending on my mood or need for a particualr app (sat nav/games etc..) I just boot into whatever suits, HTC & Microsoft pretty much ditched this phone after the US launch yet XDA have given it a fresh start and pushed it back to the top of the smartphone list IMO. If you like playing about with your phone then there is no other option, the others are just phones in comparison

I have been usin WinMo devices for last 2 years or so, but i guess WinMo is kinda dead end now. Even if i get HD2, i will like to use Android on it for a change, So why not just get an Android set with No bugs
Well i am still compiling up my money... got 400$ by now That shud suffice for HD2, but i guess i gotta wait and save some more for Galaxy or Desire.
Why are people voting Galaxy and Not Desire ? I mean its almost the same hardware.... and Desire has a bigger community here i guess.... Htc phones usualy get new updates while i m not sure samsung will keep up the updates for their phones :S

Is it a good phone?

Hi, just a curiosity. I came from the Desire HD (rooted and bla bla bla) and I'm wondering where is the difference between this Sensation and the DHD. I do not feel it really different... I tought it was double faster or something like that, but exept the resolution I cannot find great changes..

Build quality is better (for me, at least).
It's much more compact, easy to hold.
Sense 3.0!
Instant Capture on the camera
HTC Watch
It's dual core

Haven't got mine yet so I can't comment on it just yet, so let me just refer you to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110350

Trekest said:
Haven't got mine yet so I can't comment on it just yet, so let me just refer you to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110350
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Suggest to not upgrade... sorry.

redbullcat said:
Build quality is better (for me, at least).
It's much more compact, easy to hold.
Sense 3.0!
Instant Capture on the camera
HTC Watch
It's dual core
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Would like to respond to these:
1. Both are the same ssize screens.. so other then ergonomics..
2. Desire HD has sense 3.0
3. Instant cap will be ported
4. HTC will be ported..
5. Dual core.... sure? I guess?
Edit: Good phone. But good upgrade...?
I'd say no.
if you are coming from the Regular Desire then I'd say upgrade for sure. From Desire HD? No.

Use the topic above ..no need to create an extra topic and yes it is definetly worth an upgrade
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Maedhros said:
Would like to respond to these:
1. Both are the same ssize screens.. so other then ergonomics..
2. Desire HD has sense 3.0
3. Instant cap will be ported
4. HTC will be ported..
5. Dual core.... sure? I guess?
Edit: Good phone. But good upgrade...?
I'd say no.
if you are coming from the Regular Desire then I'd say upgrade for sure. From Desire HD? No.
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1. Screen size doesn't matter in this case. The Sensation is a lot more streamlined and it's thinner width ways than the DHD, due to 16:9 screen. The DHD is also much more rectangular than the Sensation; the Sensation has curved edges, like the Nexus One. Thus, the Sensation feels quite a bit smaller than the DHD.
2. DHD has Sense 3.0, but it's not official. It always feels better when it's official!
3. Don't know about Instant Capture being ported; it may be something to do with the hardware. I believe Instant Capture is done by continually auto focussing.
4. Like Google Movies, I don't know if Watch will work on a rooted device (due to copyright restrictions, etc) let alone on a device it wasn't made for, i.e. DHD.
5. Dual core is awesome

whats the battery life like on the sensation with daily use? Im thinking of upgrading from my hd2, i love the android roms for hd2 and how hackable it is, but battery life is crap and i dont want an ugly double size battery.
Thanks

geekyhawkes said:
whats the battery life like on the sensation with daily use? Im thinking of upgrading from my hd2, i love the android roms for hd2 and how hackable it is, but battery life is crap and i dont want an ugly double size battery.
Thanks
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I upgraded from the HD2 to the Sensation; albeit I was using a crappy Nokia for 3 weeks in between. My opinion is that the Sensation is better, battery feels like it lasts twice as long and once the small bugs are sorted (i.e phone restarting occasionally when using the camera and the flash is required) I cannot see a reason why anyone would not want to upgrade to this.
As for the camera flash causing the crash, I have uninstalled App Killer and it hasn't happened since so maybe a work around until an official update is released.

Thanks, im onto vodafone now, my hd2 has been ace but i cant live with the crap battery any longer. Here is hoping reception on the sensation is fixed as well. Vodafone had told me i would have to wait a month longer for an upgrade but im going to press hard and see how i get on!

Need an Advice

Hello Guys,
I'm new to this section here, maybe I'll also stay here.
I need an advice of you guys.
My current Smartphone is a HTC Legend, it's an older device and also a bit broken (battery hinge).
Today a friend offered me his HTC Sensation, he bought it about half year ago. He wants to switch to an iPhone (eeewww!).
There are a few scratches in the glass. You cannot see them while you are using the Device, but if you look closely in light you can see them.
On the side there are some scratches too (on the metal :S)
But he offered it to me for
250€!!!​Shall I take it or would you say I should wait for another device or even for a 4G Device.
I don't know a lot about the stability with Custom Roms (i love cyanogenmod) and about the upgrade availability with ICS for example.
And I loved to mod my HTC Legend, I had S-OFF, but then I had to return it to HTC to let them fix my Touchscreen and I had to remove S-OFF again. And with the current bootloader it's impossible to S-OFF it again
Maybe it would be nice to hear some Germans too, because I don't know much yet about the Plans of o2 for their 4G Network.
And I just have a Netzclub card (The old one with 200MB)
EDIT: At the moment a Electronic Discounter in Germany offers the EVO 3D for 269€ - would it be a better choice, its nearly the same, isnt it?

250 Euros isn't a bad price for it.
You could wait but IMO it would certainly be a big upgrade over the Legend. Maybe it's worth waiting till MWC to see if any new devices like the Ville are ideal for you.
The EVO 3D is similar except I think it's a bit bulkier with 3D and 1GB of RAM compared to the Sensation with an 8MP (EVO had 5MP IIRC), no 3D but is slimmer.

My Problem is that I'm just a Student and I don't have too much money...
The Camera wouldn't be a problem in my opinion...
Basically three options:
Wait, HTC Sensation, HTC Evo 3D

Ahh I see. If I were you I'd go with the EVO then if the Camera doesn't matter.
But if you're not in need of a new phone then it's probably advisable to wait till MWC IMO.

I say get the Sensation, its a great device with some flaws (nothing major tho) but Evo 3D is useless, that 3D stuff is just a gimmick. As for the waiting...well you said you're a poor student (just like me ) so I think it doesnt matter, whatever HTC shows at MWC wont be cheap

If you like cm you will only have cm7 for now. The AOSP ICS support for this rom is pretty lacking. If you want ICS you will have to settle for sense.

k0zmic said:
But if you're not in need of a new phone then it's probably advisable to wait till MWC IMO.
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The problem is that those prices are just offers with limited time.
And the Evo doesn't have that much Roms available :-(
Pikabat said:
I say get the Sensation, its a great device with some flaws (nothing major tho) but Evo 3D is useless, that 3D stuff is just a gimmick. As for the waiting...well you said you're a poor student (just like me ) so I think it doesnt matter, whatever HTC shows at MWC wont be cheap
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That's exactly what I'm thinking. Can you tell me more about the flaws?
sergeybrin said:
If you like cm you will only have cm7 for now. The AOSP ICS support for this rom is pretty lacking. If you want ICS you will have to settle for sense.
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Is there any hope for CM9 for the Sensation? And is it already confirmed that the Sensation gets ICS?
OH, just a quick thought, how much internal space does the data partition have? My legend has a 512 mb rom, so not much space left for apps (I'm using data2ext)
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i dont know if that is a good price since i am in the US but the biggest issue i have with my Sensation is AOSP/Cyanogen dev support. if I could go back I would probably go with a Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S 2 X (very similar specs to Sensation) since they have much better dev support

sensation is a great phone. I also own an evo3d. I prefer my sensation over my evo3d. Sensation has more devs and stuff going on than the evo. Though if you wait for the latest and greatest I am sure it will cost a pretty penny. Though another thought if you buy the phone from him and get service I believe you could get a new phone at your carrier but you would have to verifiy that with your carrier of choice.
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fabi280 said:
That's exactly what I'm thinking. Can you tell me more about the flaws?
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WiFi and signal reception can suffer death grip issues (easily fixed if you get a case ) , Sense sometimes crashes for no reason and you can notice that it slows down the phone from time to time, battery life is average. Again nothing serious but it can be frustrating , software problems are genrally fixed in custom roms if you're willing to root it
p.s it has been rumored that we will get ICS after MWC , probably in the first week of March

lg optimus 2x or htc desire HD?

Hey guys, just after some advice,
I need something to replace my HTC Tattoo, after a few weeks of trawling through video reviews like a monkey fossiking for nits, I've narrowed my choice to these two:
lg optimus 2x
htc desire HD
Any comments or advice to sway me in a particular direction?
Usage is: Browsing the net, emails, games, pretty much everything the phone can do.
I would most likely rip it's soul out and chuck a custom rom on it...
and i do have a budget so cant go any higher than these two really...
Thanks for any help!

Why don't you go for a newer device?
What country are you buying from and what's the budget?
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I'm in New Zealand, budget is around $450 max NZD, if there are any newer comparable phones close to this price then I'm open to ideas!
Thanks!

I would suggest a HTC One V (Link) It's a pretty decent device running android 4.0 for about $450

That actually looks like an awesome phone didn't even know it existed, thanks!
I was really after a 4inch screen, but looking at that I wonder if its worth compromising on size to get a solid newer phone with smaller screen than getting an older one with a bigger screen...
Especially running ics and sense 4.0
Do you think the desire HD would get the ics and sense 4.0 update? If it did it has a bigger screen and same 1ghz processor

wahsauce said:
That actually looks like an awesome phone didn't even know it existed, thanks!
I was really after a 4inch screen, but looking at that I wonder if its worth compromising on size to get a solid newer phone with smaller screen than getting an older one with a bigger screen...
Especially running ics and sense 4.0
Do you think the desire HD would get the ics and sense 4.0 update? If it did it has a bigger screen and same 1ghz processor
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The 2x is a great device for the price, really speedy

The One V is a 3.7' so it's pretty close to a 4' Also the DHD well i think it is slated to receive ICS but it would only get sense 3.6 and that would most likely be it's last update. The One V is brand new and would probably receive 5.0

The one v is tempting, but for roughly same price, I don't think i can pass up the 4.inch screen dual core O2x
Especially since it's getting the ICS update later this year, and I see the devs here are close to a fully working ics rom...
Thanks for the help guys

wahsauce said:
The one v is tempting, but for roughly same price, I don't think i can pass up the 4.inch screen dual core O2x
Especially since it's getting the ICS update later this year, and I see the devs here are close to a fully working ics rom...
Thanks for the help guys
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I 've had the Optimus 2X and I was kind of dissapointed. LG just didn't make a good phone. It's ok, but I think you could go better.
Have you looked at the Galaxy S Advance?

Try to get a htc sensation or sensation XE , these are now more afordable and still are great phones , put arhd 6.6.5 rom on it with leedroidteaks and your phone will fly !
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium

The advance looks like a nice phone, but it's about $100 out of my range, same with the sensation, guess I can try save a bit extra.
By the sounds of it I might stay away from the lg 2x, I'm glad I asked you guys now!

Optimus 2x
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wahsauce said:
Hey guys, just after some advice,
I need something to replace my HTC Tattoo, after a few weeks of trawling through video reviews like a monkey fossiking for nits, I've narrowed my choice to these two:
lg optimus 2x
htc desire HD
Any comments or advice to sway me in a particular direction?
Usage is: Browsing the net, emails, games, pretty much everything the phone can do.
I would most likely rip it's soul out and chuck a custom rom on it...
and i do have a budget so cant go any higher than these two really...
Thanks for any help!
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What Is Your Budget Btw?

AswinHof said:
Try to get a htc sensation or sensation XE , these are now more afordable and still are great phones , put arhd 6.6.5 rom on it with leedroidteaks and your phone will fly !
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium
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+1！

Lizman said:
Optimus 2x
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What Is Your Budget Btw?
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Sorry I didnt see your reply!
My budget is around $450
As a side note, had a look at the One V and Desire HD, they are identical hardware wise as far as I can see, but the desire has bigger screen and more ram, and with the rom the awesome Devs are porting, why wouldnt you get that instead?

wahsauce said:
Sorry I didnt see your reply!
My budget is around $450
As a side note, had a look at the One V and Desire HD, they are identical hardware wise as far as I can see, but the desire has bigger screen and more ram, and with the rom the awesome Devs are porting, why wouldnt you get that instead?
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Sony Xperia S
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Lizman said:
Sony Xperia S
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Nice, another phone I hadn't heard of, I like it very much..
whats the sony software like? I assume there are roms available for it...
Edit: Scratch that, I see the ICS update is out for it, even nicer!
Also(not sure if this is the right place to ask) but is there any difference between phones bought elsewhere, for example, can I buy a phone from Australia(off ebay) and use it here in NZ?
As far as I am aware as long as it is unlocked it should be fine?

wahsauce said:
Nice, another phone I hadn't heard of, I like it very much..
whats the sony software like? I assume there are roms available for it...
Edit: Scratch that, I see the ICS update is out for it, even nicer!
Also(not sure if this is the right place to ask) but is there any difference between phones bought elsewhere, for example, can I buy a phone from Australia(off ebay) and use it here in NZ?
As far as I am aware as long as it is unlocked it should be fine?
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You could get any phone and use it there. Most european carriers don't lock their phones, but some do, and it should be written on ebay.
As for old phones, you should know that the king of phones is Galaxy S II.
Xperia S is an ok phone, that had some problems and people overall were not satisfied. Something like the Lg 2X. Ok phones, but small problems that you can't tell from looking them on pictures but only by using them.
The sensation is a good phone but compared to Galaxy S II it's worst (i am comparing them since they are at the same price range)...

there's still a lot of better phone out there

HTC Desire HD
LG Phones are laggy
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Go for the htc desire HD or Sensation if possible. The developer community for these phones are great and there are stable ICS roms for both.

How much more can mobile hardware advance?

Ok guys,
I'm due an upgrade in August, but I don't know whether to pass out on it.
I currently have a Desire S. It's got quite old hardware, a single core chip. I'm a heavy user of my phone, so it has to do many things for me - web browsing, email, etc.
I can't afford a quad core highend phone. So I'm thinking of getting a One S. It's only dual core... But if I get it, it will have to last me at least 2 years. That's a big decision to make. I've only had my Desire S 11 months, and I already stayed feeling the need to upgrade.
I need a faster CPU to keep up with android demands, and a larger screen.
The thing is, if I get the One S, how outdated will it be?
From what I see, dual core has a huge advantage over single core.
But quad core not so much over dual core... (Or maybe android isn't making good use of it)
What's next for the move in smartphones? 8 cores seems unlikely... So what will be next? If nothing big comes along, will the One S and its dual core chip still be good enough to last me 2 years?
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I'd wait until HTC announces a new, better phone than the One series. Bit the Ones are great phones, you can't go wrong with them.
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invasion2 said:
I'd wait until HTC announces a new, better phone than the One series. Bit the Ones are great phones, you can't go wrong with them.
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Thanks, but what significant hardware improvements will HTC bring?
How will it differ greatly from the current range?
That leaves my other concern, is 10GB in the One S enough to last me 2 years? I've gotten by on a 8GB SD card on my Desire S...
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I would probably wait for a phone with 2GB or RAM such as the US version of the S3. Dual or quad core with 2gb or RAM should be good for at least 2 years.

lowandbehold said:
I would probably wait for a phone with 2GB or RAM such as the US version of the S3. Dual or quad core with 2gb or RAM should be good for at least 2 years.
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So you are saying RAM is gonna make a huge difference?
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olyloh6696 said:
It's got quite old hardware, a single core chip. I'm a heavy user of my phone, so it has to do many things for me - web browsing, email, etc.
I can't afford a quad core highend phone. So I'm thinking of getting a One S. It's only dual core...
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I use Windows Phone 7.5 so I don't have to OBSESS about cores. I don't need 4 cores to check email whether I check email once a day or once a minute. Sorry I can't help.

sitizenx said:
I use Windows Phone 7.5 so I don't have to OBSESS about cores. I don't need 4 cores to check email whether I check email once a day or once a minute. Sorry I can't help.
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Yeah, I see where u are coming from, but this isn't the case with android... It NEEDs the cores to have a smooth experience...
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olyloh6696 said:
So you are saying RAM is gonna make a huge difference?
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I think it will eventually. We are becoming more and more dependent on our phones. We want them to sync facebook, use GPS, listen to music and text at the same time. Once the software catches up to the hardware, there will only be more things to add to our multi tasking...more RAM is definitely the way to go.

Honestly, I'd say pick the one that has the best battery life, useability and moddability. Most of these smartphones nowadays are neck and neck imo. So you may as well get the one that you can customize the hell out of and will net you what you consider acceptable battery life.
If you want two cores you can probably score a deal on a Galaxy S II I saw "Fire-Sales" in London where they were going for £180 - £220. I recently picked up my Galaxy S I for £100 new in box. Also don't forget devices like the Optimus 2x or the Atrix 4G.

olyloh6696 said:
Yeah, I see where u are coming from, but this isn't the case with android... It NEEDs the cores to have a smooth experience...
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I would very strongly disagree with that. I'm using my HD2 which has hardware about a year and a half older than the Desire S (basically an older generation CPU and GPU, approximately 200Mb less RAM, Windows Mobile as stock) and it runs ICS (CM9) very smoothly. It's been three years since it's release and it's still going strong. There is a potential One V Alpha build and I think Jelly Bean (or whatever the next iteration of Android will be called) is quite possible for the HD2. I think that the One S is a poor choice, because you might as well just get a Sensation which has essentially the same hardware as the One S and has the added benefits of being cheaper, having a bigger developer base (I think) and having a menu button (which is a lot more useful than you'd think, the onscreen one is very ugly ). Whether or not this will last you 2 years on official software I don't know, but I reckon it'll last a good couple of years. The only problem is if the devs move off of the Sensation and on to a new phone.

lowandbehold said:
I think it will eventually. We are becoming more and more dependent on our phones. We want them to sync facebook, use GPS, listen to music and text at the same time. Once the software catches up to the hardware, there will only be more things to add to our multi tasking...more RAM is definitely the way to go.
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Thanks mate. I read that the SGS3 struggles with RAM (1GB version) as the new skin is so heavy, that the launcher constantly withdraws etc.
Imaginovskiy said:
Honestly, I'd say pick the one that has the best battery life, useability and moddability. Most of these smartphones nowadays are neck and neck imo. So you may as well get the one that you can customize the hell out of and will net you what you consider acceptable battery life.
If you want two cores you can probably score a deal on a Galaxy S II I saw "Fire-Sales" in London where they were going for £180 - £220. I recently picked up my Galaxy S I for £100 new in box. Also don't forget devices like the Optimus 2x or the Atrix 4G.
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Thanks man! Fire-sales - can you be more direct please? Are these brand new from retail shops? I had my eye on the SGS2 aswell...
Where can I look around?
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olyloh6696 said:
Thanks mate. I read that the SGS3 struggles with RAM (1GB version) as the new skin is so heavy, that the launcher constantly withdraws etc.
Thanks man! Fire-sales - can you be more direct please? Are these brand new from retail shops? I had my eye on the SGS2 aswell...
Where can I look around?
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Oh when I wrote my post (you probably missed it on the previous page) I was making the assume that you wanted to go HTC only. If you are willing to go for an SGS2, that would definitely beat a Sensation IMO.

Nigeldg said:
I would very strongly disagree with that. I'm using my HD2 which has hardware about a year and a half older than the Desire S (basically an older generation CPU and GPU, approximately 200Mb less RAM, Windows Mobile as stock) and it runs ICS (CM9) very smoothly. It's been three years since it's release and it's still going strong. There is a potential One V Alpha build and I think Jelly Bean (or whatever the next iteration of Android will be called) is quite possible for the HD2. I think that the One S is a poor choice, because you might as well just get a Sensation which has essentially the same hardware as the One S and has the added benefits of being cheaper, having a bigger developer base (I think) and having a menu button (which is a lot more useful than you'd think, the onscreen one is very ugly ). Whether or not this will last you 2 years on official software I don't know, but I reckon it'll last a good couple of years. The only problem is if the devs move off of the Sensation and on to a new phone.
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Well, I don't use AOSP ROMs. I use full Sense ROMs, so the phone is slower, I use it heavily for web browsing, and gaming etc. I've noticed the browser is never as smooth as a dual core phone. I use my phone extensively, therefore, I like fluid performance, and for me android on a single core doesn't satisfy MY needs.
Also you are slightly off... The One S is far ahead of the Sensation. It uses a S4 chip compared to the S3 in the Sensation with a much newer CPU and GPU, it's much much more efficient, and currently the best dual core chip... That's why I wanted to choose that...
Dev support Is decent for the One S.
I'm open to all android manufacturers. (Actually. Only Samsung or HTC)
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The specs for all flagship phones are all very good now, maybe a little saturated. The important thing is the advancement in software. There is still no LibreOffice or full Adobe Photoshop or AutoCAD for Android. Fanboys will get mad reading this, but Android needs vast improvement in interface speed, look at Windows Phone running on single core devices and their boot time.
Phones will keep getting better because it will be the main 'PC' for everyone in the future (if not already now). People will carry it with them then dock it to do more productive tasks. Which is what Ubuntu is trying to do with Android.
For me personally, the Nexus still gives me the most freedom and most up to date Android version, so no reason to buy anything else yet.
The best example of hardware ahead of software is the next iPhone, no matter how high res or fast it is, its still an iPhone running on closed source iOS, so I won't buy it.

Is cutting edge hardware really that necessary? If you noticed, Google is the responsible for pushing the envelope and forcing more powerful hardware with less battery life and so. Remeber what happened to Honeycomb? Running slow and sluggish even on the platform it was specifically made for. Or wondering why the old Tegra cpu has some lag on ICS when the most recent S4 and Exynos quad core doesn't? Is there a reason for a dual core smartphone (HTC One S) to score higher than a quad core(HTC One X)? Our modern cutting edge phones are bigger, with objectionable battery life and can barely fit in our pockets.
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Well, I don't use AOSP ROMs. I use full Sense ROMs, so the phone is slower, I use it heavily for web browsing, and gaming etc. I've noticed the browser is never as smooth as a dual core phone. I use my phone extensively, therefore, I like fluid performance, and for me android on a single core doesn't satisfy MY needs.
Also you are slightly off... The One S is far ahead of the Sensation. It uses a S4 chip compared to the S3 in the Sensation with a much newer CPU and GPU, it's much much more efficient, and currently the best dual core chip... That's why I wanted to choose that...
Dev support Is decent for the One S.
I'm open to all android manufacturers. (Actually. Only Samsung or HTC)
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Yeah, I don't use Sense for the reason that I find it sluggish. I've used my Mum's desire S now and again purely to see how good Sense is and whether or not to flash it, and it's always just seemed too slow for me, and since your hardware is of a newer generation I doubt my phone would cope well. However, with CM9 it genuinely is fast and smooth. The best performance improvement I've noticed over CM7/GB is in the browser, where I find the smoothness and the zooming comparable with an SGS3.
The One S is far ahead of the Sensation, you're right (actually it scores higher quadrant scores than a Sensation as well I think) but the only problem I'd have with a One S is simply that I don't know whether or not it's necessary to pay extra when you can pick up a Sensation relatively cheaply. In day-to-day performance I don't know whether or not you'll notice it tbh.
Perhaps an SGS2 would be better then, or maybe as suggested above a GNex.

eksasol said:
The specs for all flagship phones are all very good now, maybe a little saturated. The important thing is the advancement in software. There is still no LibreOffice or full Adobe Photoshop or AutoCAD for Android. Fanboys will get mad reading this, but Android needs vast improvement in interface speed, look at Windows Phone running on single core devices and their boot time.
Phones will keep getting better because it will be the main 'PC' for everyone in the future (if not already now). People will carry it with them then dock it to do more productive tasks. Which is what Ubuntu is trying to do with Android.
For me personally, the Nexus still gives me the most freedom and most up to date Android version, so no reason to buy anything else yet.
The best example of hardware ahead of software is the next iPhone, no matter how high res or fast it is, its still an iPhone running on closed source iOS, so I won't buy it.
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Yeah I agree with you. It's a shame OEMs don't provide software updates to the phones though, even though they are far capable. The One S is likely to receive Jellybean... But what about Key Lime Pie in the future?
That's where my problem lies. In 2 years, support will be dead. Also, I know you can use custom ROMs etc, but they are never perfect, as you need the official kernel source from HTC so the ROM cam be stable.
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Is cutting edge hardware really that necessary? If you noticed, Google is the responsible for pushing the envelope and forcing more powerful hardware with less battery life and so. Remeber what happened to Honeycomb? Running slow and sluggish even on the platform it was specifically made for. Or wondering why the old Tegra cpu has some lag on ICS when the most recent S4 and Exynos quad core doesn't? Is there a reason for a dual core smartphone (HTC One S) to score higher than a quad core(HTC One X)? Our modern cutting edge phones are bigger, with objectionable battery life and can barely fit in our pockets.
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Well, I don't like to be behind in technology. When I compare my Desire S to say, a SGS2, it makes me weep seeing how much faster the SGS is. That's why my question, will hardware improve much from quad core? For me, dual core to quad core is a much smaller jump, than single to dual.
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Yeah, I don't use Sense for the reason that I find it sluggish. I've used my Mum's desire S now and again purely to see how good Sense is and whether or not to flash it, and it's always just seemed too slow for me, and since your hardware is of a newer generation I doubt my phone would cope well. However, with CM9 it genuinely is fast and smooth. The best performance improvement I've noticed over CM7/GB is in the browser, where I find the smoothness and the zooming comparable with an SGS3.
The One S is far ahead of the Sensation, you're right (actually it scores higher quadrant scores than a Sensation as well I think) but the only problem I'd have with a One S is simply that I don't know whether or not it's necessary to pay extra when you can pick up a Sensation relatively cheaply. In day-to-day performance I don't know whether or not you'll notice it tbh.
Perhaps an SGS2 would be better then, or maybe as suggested above a GNex.
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Yeah, thanks for the suggestion, I was thinking of the SGS2, for me the browser is far from what the SGS2 offers. There's a good video on YouTube,
Desire S vs SGS2 web browsing... Just watch the difference and you will kno what I mean!
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I'm looking forward to see what Intel will do for mobile platforms now that they have joined in, they are new to mobile development but it seems like they are working on there hyper threading tech on there socs, sending 2 commands per core like there desktop PC chips (1 core processing the same amount of information that two cores would do). The next 24 months will be an exciting time for the mobile market!
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