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So best buy is telling me I need to sign a contract with at&t to get the phone wtf? He's on the phone with the manager now
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Lol, he probably needed more sleep. The guy I had first thought it was a Sprint phone because it was in the Sprint phone section of the cabinet. Other than that, he tried to sell me insurance. Good experience for me. Hope it didn't take you too long.
I brought this mytouch off Craigslist by trading with my G2. The phone is starting some problems as with not turning the screen on when after a phone call and I got the bad screen on it.
Now I don't know if this phone is stolen or not or the person got it from the insurance by claiming Its lost.
Now do you think T-Mobile will exchnage it? I can't deal with the screen not turning on anymore so yeah.
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I am sure this is the reason the owner sold it in first place, I bet the person gave you lame story about how he changed carrier or got it as gift or some BS and he already has something lol so he didn't need it.
This is why I warn folks about buying jack from eBay or Craigslist when first batch came out month ago that means alot of inferior device that shouldn't have passed QC got though. Your best bet is going via HTC device warranty as TMo itself will not honor yours as they have no proof of this device was valid transaction linked to your account. Also the remorse period is only though TMo not by 3rd party individuals.
Thanks for the reply Mr.HKM, He told me he had 2 of these and he wanted to get rid of it so I'm guessing he used the insurance company to get another by saying it was lost.
Is it worth a shot with T-Mobile? or Should I call up HTC tomrrow and see what they can do? The thing is, I don't want to be left phoneless though, that's the only thing that's going to be bad for me.
Would my best bet be selling it back on Craigslist and getting another one?
I bought my HD2 off craigslist and transfered my insurance to it by calling tmo and asking them if I could. It was originally the insurance I had on my touch pro 2. My nexus one was insured by that other company.
I never had to use it on the hd2 so I don't know how that would work. After I bought the MT4G I had the guy at the store transfer my insurance to it.
Its worth a shot calling tmo. From my experience they are wing willing to work with you.
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Maybe prick got it buy one get one free though adding family members with contract. Best place to buy it now is though TMo as like you I also considered buying it via CL/eBay but after I saw the rate of bad display, ffc, creaky buttons I decide it to just shall out the full $450 and get it without contract. Didn't want the hassle as I lost my HD2 and was left with dumbphone lol trust me its no fun.
Well this is what you can do just skip it all as TMo will not help you so just contact HTC rep and request RMA for it. While you are sending it go to local TMo store and get "loner" phone while its taken care of. You can contact the seller but I am sure the prick will ignore you as kid will be like its your problem now.
Update: Do as MvP77 said then first with TMo it won't hurt long as you get it taken care of if not then you become the prick and get it of your hand ASAP by selling it to someone else lol
Ugh I looked at T-Mobile website about device warranty under T-Mobile and it looks like you cannot transfer warranties from another customer. Pretty much bumed out at this point.
Should I post of on Craigslist asap and get rid of it and buy another one and risk getting a **** screen and or just keep this?
I flashed iced galicer on it and the screen comes on after a call so I'm just worried about the screen for now.
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I have known and helped people who bought through ebay or craigslist get a replacement through T-Mo. It's not a fool proof way but it has worked for some.
First thing is hopefully you are a T-Mo customer? Then don't use the online chat, call them on the phone. Just ask for Tech support. Here is what you are trying to accomplish, you need to get your IMEI # in their system to have a chance. So since this device came out with a OTA (Over the Air update) the same day it launched it is a plus for you. If your IMEI # is not in the system you will never get the update. So when you call and get to the rep just explain to him you are having some problems with very poor battery life and your video chat is not working properly, poor signal etc. Tell him you knew there was a OTA update but you have never received it, and you want to see if this will fix your problems first before deciding on a warranty replacement. If they ask you where you got it tell them you got it from a T-Mobile Store and you bought it full price. Whatever you do don't tell them craigslist. Stay firm on you buying it in a store no matter how many times they ask. Now the above might not even come up but be prepared in case. Noe tell the tech support rep could he please make sure that your IMEI number is correct in their system as you have never received the update. Your number might be in there and it might not. Likely it is not. I had one that was wrong for a whole month from when I changed from my G2. They will ask you for your number and give it to them. If they don't find it they will try to put it in. If the IMEI number is not in their database they will tell you also and ask where you bought it. Stick to the plan. Tell them you don't know why it's not in their system all you did is buy it in their store it should be in the system and you paid full price for it it better be in the system. now I have actually had this happen on one of my early replacements. And I really did get it from a store. They finally said they could manually enter it and override the system. Now if you get this done your almost there. Tell them thank you and you will be waiting for the update and hopefully it fixes the issues if not you will call back. Wait a day or two. The call back and when you here the automated attendant say cancel. This gets you to a higher level rep. Tell the about the problems and you are disappoint that you paid full price and now you have all these problems and the OTA update did not correct them. You are loosing data connection and they stay off for long periods of time. Tell them you have already been to a store and they changed your SIM card and that you have already talked to tech support and factory master reset with them twice and they said it is defective. You said you would give it another chance but it did not get any better. Now hopefully they will process you a exchange and send it to you and then you send yours back..
I hope this help and you get a good one. If all else fails go through HTC.
xdviper said:
I brought this mytouch off Craigslist by trading with my G2. The phone is starting some problems as with not turning the screen on when after a phone call and I got the bad screen on it.
Now I don't know if this phone is stolen or not or the person got it from the insurance by claiming Its lost.
Now do you think T-Mobile will exchnage it? I can't deal with the screen not turning on anymore so yeah.
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Sounds like a software bug. Try a factory reset before you do anything.
xdviper said:
I brought this mytouch off Craigslist by trading with my G2. The phone is starting some problems as with not turning the screen on when after a phone call and I got the bad screen on it.
Now I don't know if this phone is stolen or not or the person got it from the insurance by claiming Its lost.
Now do you think T-Mobile will exchnage it? I can't deal with the screen not turning on anymore so yeah.
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I've bought a few different phones off Craigslist and got them all exchanged through warranty. As long as its still under the manufacturers warranty they should exchange it. All they did was look up the imei to verify its still under warranty. This is my experience with T-Mob, so I don't see why you shouldn't be able to exchange it. Now, if its a stolen or lost phone, they might not. Let us know how it goes for you. Hope you get a good one.
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This is the kind of thing of why i dont want to buy one off ebay or cl, i dont mind but i know it will be a phone i will have for a long time so id rather buy it brand new.
Trust ME
as long as you have insurance which is 5.99 a month for the php bundle then it will cover the phone...just call in do troubleshooting and hey will replace it as long as there not liquid damage or physical damage....u dont pay anything not even shipping and hanlding
Alright, I'm going to give it a shot today.
This took ne at a surprise, I went and logged on to my T-Mobile and it shows the white mytouch as my phone... so I'm guessing they already know I have a mytouch?
so alright thanks for the replies everyone. I'll call in this afternoon and see what the deal is. Thanks.
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rodriguez27 said:
this is the kind of thing of why i dont want to buy one off ebay or cl, i dont mind but i know it will be a phone i will have for a long time so id rather buy it brand new.
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i agree with you 100%
bobsbbq THANK you soo much for that detailed post and everyone else.
I called and told them about the screen not turning back after a phone call, and they went ahead and replaced it for me. I hope I get a good screen and one that turns on after a phone call. Thanks everyone
Told ya. Tmo customer service is excellent. I even got a watered damage G1 replaced.
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I can't express how.much I wanna say thank you. I just hope it comes before this 3 day weekend and with the Sony screen. Thanks guys.
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insurance is crazy 6 bucks a month thats 72 bucks a year on a phone you paid 100 bucks for
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insurance is crazy 6 bucks a month thats 72 bucks a year on a phone you paid 100 bucks for
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For someone like me that switches phones alot and usually pays full or close to full price the insurance its nice. It would suck if it was like sprints insurance where you gotta pay a deductible.
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I think T-Mobile does also make you pay a deductible also. Not sure, but I do change phones a lot and not sure if insurance would cover non T-Mobile phones like the iPhone.
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Lockeskidney not everyone sells there soul by signing 2year contract and having to pay more than its actually worth. Now lets say this as I never considered insurance. I usually buy the device without contract at full price from valid vendor now if I lose it how much is the deductible? I am sure everyone ATM here some how doing insurance fraud false claiming it as lost.
literally, ive called best buy coporate every single day since last sunday when i preordered our two thunderbolts, every single time ive gotten a different person, every single time i get the exact answer....
BEST BUY will be releasing it on the 14th, that does not mean verizon stores or other retailers will release it, but best buy will 100% be releasing it the 14th
the price is 199 w 2 year, again confirmed everyday this week by different personal including supervisors at best buy corporate, and best buy corporate mobile consultants.
why is all the speculation floating around? call 1800best buy, ask to speak with a mobile consultant, tell them you preordered and you demand to know the release date, you will get the exact same answer every single time!!!!
again 100% release date the 14 of feb ONLY BEST BUY
price WILL BE $199 ONLY BEST BUY!!
no speculation or rumor, call and see!
I highly doubt that Verizon is going to allow their flagship 4G device to be sold at Best Buy before it is available in the Verizon stores. If Best Buy releases it on the 14th it will be in Verizon stores on the 14th.
Edit: Also it is not going to be 199.99 (can't post this as a link but you can go to the bellow site and see)
w ww.androidpolice.com/2011/02/10/htc-thunderbolt-listed-at-749-99-off-contract-in-best-buys-system-thats-almost-a-whole-xoom/
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I highly doubt that Verizon is going to allow their flagship 4G device to be sold at Best Buy before it is available in the Verizon stores. If Best Buy releases it on the 14th it will be in Verizon stores on the 14th.
Edit: Also it is not going to be 199.99 (can't post this as a link but you can go to the bellow site and see)
w ww.androidpolice.com/2011/02/10/htc-thunderbolt-listed-at-749-99-off-contract-in-best-buys-system-thats-almost-a-whole-xoom/
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somehow i doubt the 750 price mark
thats nuts for a phone, tablets are cheaper than that!
some part of the paper doesnt make sense too..
my local best buy told me it was 749 on the phone last week but then when I went in store to reserve mine, they didn't have a clue so who knows
I'm 100% positive Best Buy reps have as much knowledge of confirmed release dates as we do.
Signs are pointing to the 24th, imo.
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somehow i doubt the 750 price mark
thats nuts for a phone, tablets are cheaper than that!
some part of the paper doesnt make sense too..
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I'm not trusting that price mark either to tell you the truth, especialy since it seems to have changed in their system over night. However it isn't going to be 199.99 either
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/02/10/htc-thunderbolt-hitting-verizon-february-feb-24-confirmed/
hahah I don't think anything is "confirmed" at this point until it comes from verizon. This is starting to remind me of the college football expansion talk
Verizon is releasing 24th I too was told by best buy mobile the 14th absolutely they rnt on the same time frame as vzw ..HTC says the phone is ready and best buy is releasing it..I don't understand vzw waiting its rediculous to me..but vzw never worries abt taking care of their customers like ..well ..best buy does..
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Verizon is releasing 24th I too was told by best buy mobile the 14th absolutely they rnt on the same time frame as vzw ..HTC says the phone is ready and best buy is releasing it..I don't understand vzw waiting its rediculous to me..but vzw never worries abt taking care of their customers like ..well ..best buy does..
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Like I said I highly doubt Verizon will allow this, if Best Buy releases it before it is in VZW stores then VZW will simply not allow Best Buy to sell their phones. This is VZW's flagship 4G device there is not way that VZW is going to allow someone else to sell it first.
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Like I said I highly doubt Verizon will allow this, if Best Buy releases it before it is in VZW stores then VZW will simply not allow Best Buy to sell their phones. This is VZW's flagship 4G device there is not way that VZW is going to allow someone else to sell it first.
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It's highly possible still because they are independent stores and if they do sell early then Verizon can do jack about it
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who cares if you can pre order from best buy early. last year when the incredible came out you could pre order from best buy and guess what? best buy was only shipped 10 phones and all the other people that preorderd got theirs when verizon finally released it. i have been told by a few vrz reps 24 is the day.
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It's highly possible still because they are independent stores and if they do sell early then Verizon can do jack about it
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I understand what you are saying here, however those independent stores will find themselves unable to offer any contract pricing with VZW or have the ability to turn on the phone. So even if you got it from a Best Buy like that early you would still have to go to VZW to activate the phone.
Not to mention VZW would most certainly be able to tell the store that they can not sell a phone that has VZW branding all over it.
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I understand what you are saying here, however those independent stores will find themselves unable to offer any contract pricing with VZW or have the ability to turn on the phone. So even if you got it from a Best Buy like that early you would still have to go to VZW to activate the phone.
Not to mention VZW would most certainly be able to tell the store that they can not sell a phone that has VZW branding all over it.
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Not sure on that. The phone is HTC's property, not Verizon's. HTC can stop the release, not sure that Verizon would have the legal power to stop them. They could definitely throw threats out there, but not sure that it would do any good. They COULD decide to not activate any of the phones until their release date, which would still be pointless. What difference does it make what phone you are using? One other thing, if this delay was due to software problems, what was the point if you could push an update 10 days later?
The phone just got approved a couple of days ago by the FCC , one reason for a delay.
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From my experiences with Verizon they seem to have a history with releasing phones on Thursday, so I'm guessing we will see it released on the 24th
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That's correct.
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i just read on the android community forum that best buy pushed the date to the 24th so i called and they confirmed the 24th was now "probably" the earliest and that the 14th wasnt not happening most likely..cldnt give me anything definite tho..other than verizon is calling the shots
ska.t73 said:
I highly doubt that Verizon is going to allow their flagship 4G device to be sold at Best Buy before it is available in the Verizon stores. If Best Buy releases it on the 14th it will be in Verizon stores on the 14th.
Edit: Also it is not going to be 199.99 (can't post this as a link but you can go to the bellow site and see)
w ww.androidpolice.com/2011/02/10/htc-thunderbolt-listed-at-749-99-off-contract-in-best-buys-system-thats-almost-a-whole-xoom/
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Actually, It makes sense for Verizon to allow customers to buy the Bolt from Best Buy on Valentine's Day while they sell it at a later date because they can hustle customers into not cashing in their last NE2 credit in some cases and more importantly (for VZW), hustle more people into getting 2-year contracts with BB instead of 1-year contracts (or no contract) with them.
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jbh00jh said:
The phone just got approved a couple of days ago by the FCC , one reason for a delay.
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I've seen phones show up on the FCC site 2 weeks after it's release, Verizon dictates the date the phone shows up on that site not the FCC. The phone was reviewed and passed federal clearance weeks if not more than a month ago I'm sure.
Whatever , looks lile the 24th now.Just 2 more weeks.
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Ok - I tried Sprint, and the coverage is just too bad for me to tolerate... But I really want the Arrive. I do not want a phone without a keyboard, so the Trophy won't do it for me.
I'm going to end up going back to Verizon, but I want to know if I buy an Arrive without a plan, can it be made to work with Verizon, and what consequences there would be? Someone suggested on another thread that if I wanted to get my hands dirty, I could change the ESN. I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty, but I need someone to show me what I need to do. Also, as far as consequences, would an Arrive on Verizon get updates? If no, would I be able to get updates from someone on here doing something similar?
Thanks for any suggestions.
hopmedic said:
Ok - I tried Sprint, and the coverage is just too bad for me to tolerate... But I really want the Arrive. I do not want a phone without a keyboard, so the Trophy won't do it for me.
I'm going to end up going back to Verizon, but I want to know if I buy an Arrive without a plan, can it be made to work with Verizon, and what consequences there would be? Someone suggested on another thread that if I wanted to get my hands dirty, I could change the ESN. I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty, but I need someone to show me what I need to do. Also, as far as consequences, would an Arrive on Verizon get updates? If no, would I be able to get updates from someone on here doing something similar?
Thanks for any suggestions.
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AFAIK, changing the ESN is the only problem. I think you gotta have someone at Sprint/Verizon do it for you though. So hopefully that person owes you a favor
I also need to know if this would prevent me from unlocking the phone using the official dev channels. Thanks.
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AFAIK, changing the ESN is the only problem. I think you gotta have someone at Sprint/Verizon do it for you though. So hopefully that person owes you a favor
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Grrr... I don't know anyone at either place. Any way around that? I was hoping it would be as simple as unlock it, find the ESN, and change the ESN to match that of my Verizon Touch Pro 2. Not so simple?
While I can't help with the Sprint/Verizon transfer stuff, I can tell you that, no matter who your provider is, you will always be able to officially dev-unlock your phone. Also, you will get WP7 updates, but they will likely appear only when Sprint authorizes them even if you're on Verizon.
Thanks... Since I don't have a lot of money rolling around, I really can't afford to have a phone sitting here that I can't talk on, so I'm really interested in whether I'll be able to get both talk and data working on Verizon with the phone. Someone from Microsoft on the Windows Phone team suggested buying a phone from Zones, the official site for planless WP7 phones, saying that the people at Zones are pretty good about getting the unlock codes for the phones. Would this make a difference in getting it onto Verizon, or am I likely to still have a problem getting my phone onto their network?
I've done this before and in 2008 it was much easier than it was now (posting how to get the tp from sprint on vzw at ppcgeeks)
that said, its not as easy for a variety of reasons. Personally I haven't tried to hit up pst to see if it even works
Verizon did block the hole that was previously used in 2009, so the only way to do it is through esn hacking. And on many places, that can't be discussed.
With windows phone 7 I am unsure if the process is still the same or if sprint still used msl to lock pst on their windows phone devices. Personally I would sell the arrive, wait a few weeks, and then go to the htc mozart on vzw's network. I know it's just me, but I haven't really begun to look at a cdma htc arrive to see if an esn change/hack is even possible on this platform.
I know vzw's stance on adding esn - they won't do it no matter who you are. You can try to send the device to them, but that has a very low rate of acceptance. The vzw handset alliance is a joke imho, which leaves users frustrated and with very little options.
Fooling around with the htc arrive I have to say its quite different but not a bad different. It's a shame you may have to sell it because of verizon being verizon
I know some of the regional carriers will flash/alter the ESN for you, but Verizon is pretty staunchly against it. Good luck getting it to work.
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Flashing HTC Arrive
This is what i did to flash HTC Arrive using another CDMA operator (in this case, Smart Telecom Indonesia):
1. get the MSL/SPC of the phone. you can ask Sprint, or buy it from an unlock service provider (i bought it from nick flash cricket dot net)
2. put the phone in diag mode, using ##MFG#. i use winXP 32bit, and use this driver "HTC BMP USB Driver.zip"
3. connect to QPST. you can change the MSL, network code, IMSI, MDN, PRL, and auth HDR setting (evdo parameters)
4. connect to CDMA workshop to enter the AKEY
5. reboot.
now, my HTC arrive is with Smart Telecom. but alas, i can not unlock it to sideload apps
the 7 pro is rumored to be coming to verizon
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-7-pro-coming-to-verizon-as-htc-pro
deadwrong03 said:
the 7 pro is rumored to be coming to verizon
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-7-pro-coming-to-verizon-as-htc-pro
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You know how rumors, Windows Phone 7 and Verizon are..... a bunch of bull****... I'll believe it when I see an offical press statement. That phone is just another one of the "Arrive" phones that passed FCC, no other info, it could be going to all the small CDMA carriers for all we know.
To the OP, you said you can't afford to have a phone sitting around and not working. How do you feel about spending $500-600 on a phone off contract ? That would be about what they would want for one.
I'd be interested in getting this working and trash the ESN on my TP2 (with a cracked display) if this was possable (and getting everything working, internet, SMS, etc with no issues) but, I'm not willing to dump $500+ on a phone that I might have problems getting working...If I could get it for $150-200, I'd be all over it though..
Edit: Checked on ebay...brand new, no contract, there is a buyit now for $360, so cheaper than I thought
Latest word on VZW is May 5th...(Next Thursday), I'd wait for that point before even attempting this.
DavidinCT said:
You know how rumors, Windows Phone 7 and Verizon are..... a bunch of bull****... I'll believe it when I see an offical press statement. That phone is just another one of the "Arrive" phones that passed FCC, no other info, it could be going to all the small CDMA carriers for all we know.
To the OP, you said you can't afford to have a phone sitting around and not working. How do you feel about spending $500-600 on a phone off contract ? That would be about what they would want for one.
I'd be interested in getting this working and trash the ESN on my TP2 (with a cracked display) if this was possable (and getting everything working, internet, SMS, etc with no issues) but, I'm not willing to dump $500+ on a phone that I might have problems getting working...If I could get it for $150-200, I'd be all over it though..
Edit: Checked on ebay...brand new, no contract, there is a buyit now for $360, so cheaper than I thought
Latest word on VZW is May 5th...(Next Thursday), I'd wait for that point before even attempting this.
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Yeah, I saw the rumor of 7 Pro coming to Verizon (posted a link to it on another thread yesterday), and I have just about as much faith as you do. I'm unemployed, so no, I really don't want to spend $500 on a phone, but if I had to, I could, but only if it is going to actually work. And yes, I've already been looking on ebay. For the moment, I'm waiting on my refund from Sprint for the two Arrives that my wife and I had, and then I'll decide if I'm going to try it, or if it looks like VZW might actually DO something.
I'm growing more disgruntled with Verizon with every passing day, but unfortunately, they may as well be considered a monopoly where I live. I switched to Sprint for the Arrive, but had to switch back. I can look out my window, across the parking lot, and often see my pastor standing outside the church so he can talk on his ATT phone, and I'm just not willing to do that. So I guess I'm stuck with waiting until VZW gets over its grudge against MS for the Kin debacle. It's just ridiculous.
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This is what i did to flash HTC Arrive using another CDMA operator (in this case, Smart Telecom Indonesia):
1. get the MSL/SPC of the phone. you can ask Sprint, or buy it from an unlock service provider (i bought it from nick flash cricket dot net)
2. put the phone in diag mode, using ##MFG#. i use winXP 32bit, and use this driver "HTC BMP USB Driver.zip"
3. connect to QPST. you can change the MSL, network code, IMSI, MDN, PRL, and auth HDR setting (evdo parameters)
4. connect to CDMA workshop to enter the AKEY
5. reboot.
now, my HTC arrive is with Smart Telecom. but alas, i can not unlock it to sideload apps
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The only problem is that may not work for verizon because the esn needs to be added and it won't
hopmedic said:
Yeah, I saw the rumor of 7 Pro coming to Verizon (posted a link to it on another thread yesterday), and I have just about as much faith as you do. I'm unemployed, so no, I really don't want to spend $500 on a phone, but if I had to, I could, but only if it is going to actually work. And yes, I've already been looking on ebay. For the moment, I'm waiting on my refund from Sprint for the two Arrives that my wife and I had, and then I'll decide if I'm going to try it, or if it looks like VZW might actually DO something.
I'm growing more disgruntled with Verizon with every passing day, but unfortunately, they may as well be considered a monopoly where I live. I switched to Sprint for the Arrive, but had to switch back. I can look out my window, across the parking lot, and often see my pastor standing outside the church so he can talk on his ATT phone, and I'm just not willing to do that. So I guess I'm stuck with waiting until VZW gets over its grudge against MS for the Kin debacle. It's just ridiculous.
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wp7 on verizon is pretty much fact theres test trophy devices with the verizon logo on them its just a matter of when they are going to release it
Can you, as in physically? Yes. Will they add the ESN for you? No. I read about the process and it has to be done by some really high-up tech guys. They'd lose their job doing it.
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The only problem is that may not work for verizon because the esn needs to be added and it won't
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i don't know about verizon's policy. if they won't put a non verizon esn in their system, then HTC arrive on Verizon will never gonna happen, unless you can change the esn (i heard it's illegal in there).
AFAIK, in Indonesia, cdma operators will be happy to insert as many as possible other operator devices, to increase their ARPU. Competition is very tight in here, so flexibility and new technology adoption are very important. We are expecting evdo rev. B available to public in June
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wp7 on verizon is pretty much fact theres test trophy devices with the verizon logo on them its just a matter of when they are going to release it
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Yep and with the Microsoft eployee poster, it's been coming from mid Jan...We are talking almost 5 months of waiting for a phone to be released. You can show me 10,000 pictures of some phone that could of been photoshopped with a VZW logo (I do think its real tho) but, till we have a press release, it does not matter.
Verizon could wait till June 30th (as some have claimed) are you willing to wait that long ??? I know I'm not.
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Yeah, I saw the rumor of 7 Pro coming to Verizon (posted a link to it on another thread yesterday), and I have just about as much faith as you do. I'm unemployed, so no, I really don't want to spend $500 on a phone, but if I had to, I could, but only if it is going to actually work. And yes, I've already been looking on ebay. For the moment, I'm waiting on my refund from Sprint for the two Arrives that my wife and I had, and then I'll decide if I'm going to try it, or if it looks like VZW might actually DO something.
I'm growing more disgruntled with Verizon with every passing day,..... It's just ridiculous.
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I agree 100%..
I'll tell you what, If we don't have at least a press statement by May 15th, I'll work with you to figure this one out. I'll call and pester tech support to get someone who will activate one (and share it with ya, if possble).
If that won't work, I'll figure out the...ugh...ESN cloning thing and use it from my TP2. I'm serious, you can PM me here or on PPCgeeks under the same user name.
I want this quest to end, if this is what I have to do, I am willing to do it... I'm tired of waiting for VZW to get off their ass and get us paying customers what we want.
I'm so pissed about it, I am seriously looking into going to AT&T and they are ok in my area but, not great. I can always go back within 15 days if I had to
DavidinCT said:
Yep and with the Microsoft eployee poster, it's been coming from mid Jan...We are talking almost 5 months of waiting for a phone to be released. You can show me 10,000 pictures of some phone that could of been photoshopped with a VZW logo (I do think its real tho) but, till we have a press release, it does not matter.
Verizon could wait till June 30th (as some have claimed) are you willing to wait that long ??? I know I'm not.
I agree 100%..
I'll tell you what, If we don't have at least a press statement by May 15th, I'll work with you to figure this one out. I'll call and pester tech support to get someone who will activate one (and share it with ya, if possble).
If that won't work, I'll figure out the...ugh...ESN cloning thing and use it from my TP2. I'm serious, you can PM me here or on PPCgeeks under the same user name.
I want this quest to end, if this is what I have to do, I am willing to do it... I'm tired of waiting for VZW to get off their ass and get us paying customers what we want.
I'm so pissed about it, I am seriously looking into going to AT&T and they are ok in my area but, not great. I can always go back within 15 days if I had to
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Yeah... We know that at least the poster is official, so the Trophy WILL come to VZW. The question is how long they're going to jerk their paying customers around before it does.
As far as getting an Arrive to work on VZW, it would be so much easier if the new 7 Pro rumor is true AND happens sometime before Jesus comes back. But if you get an Arrive working on VZW, I will definitely be with you. I'm unemployed, so I can't afford to buy a phone if it's going to end up bricked because I did something wrong, and as far as programming, I'm just your basic .NET/SQL programmer without much experience, because at the manufacturing plant I worked at, I was the only IT guy, so I had to do it all, therefore didn't have time to specialize in anything (which is why I'm having so much trouble finding a job). And as far as whether it's legal or not to clone an ESN? Frankly, I don't care. It'd be my phone, so I really don't care what they say I can and cannot do with it.
I really want a phone, though, because I'm planning for this to make me some money, selling in marketplace. I've already paid for my developer account, and had my Sprint phone unlocked the official way, but had to send it back, since I went back to VZW. But that means my dev account is sitting there not making me any money, while the expiration date creeps closer. Also, I signed up for the MS App Garage event in Atlanta next month, so it would be great to have a phone by then. Hopefully we'll know something OFFICIAL soon. I'm so ticked at VZW.....
still would like to know if it's possable to use a ESN from my TP2 and put it on a Arrive...but, if someone could get QPST to work with it and save settings for Verizon, it should work but, it's just getting them to enable the ESN or,,,<G> clone it
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still would like to know if it's possable to use a ESN from my TP2 and put it on a Arrive...but, if someone could get QPST to work with it and save settings for Verizon, it should work but, it's just getting them to enable the ESN or,,,<G> clone it
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probably using cdma workshop yes
but again highly illegal considering vzw won't add ESNs of any kind. Heck even if you say that you got your device from HTC themselves, the ESN won't be added
So I wired my younger brother the money to pick up my phone in the US and send it back with my grandparents who are there visiting... He went to AT&T today and they denied him the ability to purchase me the phone off contract. He said he tried for a little, but they kept saying that they would not sell it to him off contract. I told him to try and go back if he can, but he might not be able to due to work and my grandparents leaving soon.
Can AT&T actually deny selling the phone off contract? I told him that if he is able to go back, to tell them that it is being sold from AT&T stores for $549.00 and to ask how it is possible for them to deny the sale.
I understand that they dont make money selling phones, but rather the service, but to just deny him is crazy...
Thoughts? Opinions? Suggestions?
Thanks everyone! Have been at this android thing for almost a year and I am still without one...
I have never heard of them denying someone to purchase a phone off contract. Tell him to go to Target or Wal Mart they sell att phones off contract.
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I'm not sure if there is one near him unfortunately... I guess I should mention he lives in Boston at the moment, not cool on the part of the AT&T he went to.
Do you happen to know how much Walmart and Target are selling them for?
they can deny anything to anyone. but you can buy it on there website. they dont want to run out and are hoping that this will attract many new contracts so they prefer to sell to new subscribers. my att reps dont care either way and i had the option to buy outright, i shoulda taken that option but it is too late now. im not sure if i can cancel an early upgrade in the first month like a new contract.
Heuser1 said:
I'm not sure if there is one near him unfortunately... I guess I should mention he lives in Boston at the moment, not cool on the part of the AT&T he went to.
Do you happen to know how much Walmart and Target are selling them for?
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about $50-$100 more as far as i can tell but some regions are jacking up the price even in the at store. i think it is $579 on att's website. my store is $549 but some stores may be $600 or more
Is he a ATT customer. It is true they wont sell to non customers and they dont have to.
Crazy how some places jack up the price like that. The reason I cannot order it online is because I would have to pay a 16% tax for it to get through customs here in the Dominican Republic. So i have been trying to coordinate with friends and family that have been in the US and this was my big chance so say.
Pretty annoyed about this, seems like everytime I try to get a phone i am unsuccesful for one reason or another. Already had the issue with the G2X not being quad-band.
I hope he was able to go back this evening and get it... Not sure what to do next if that doesn't work out.
Ya. Inspire was $399 off contract at att. Went to buy at best buy because I had a 10% coupon and they wanted $599 for the thing! No.thanks! I'd call corporate and complain about the store. Either way its bad customer service for them to turn you down like that. "Can I give you $550 for this item" rep "no" ... "only $199" doesn't make sense. I'd raise hell. I realize they make money off the data plans and.contracts and how att works but either way you look at it that's poor customer relations and incorrect information directly from a.corporate store.
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Best buy will always price match. I have done it with many off contract phones there.
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Ya. Inspire was $399 off contract at att. Went to buy at best buy because I had a 10% coupon and they wanted $599 for the thing! No.thanks! I'd call corporate and complain about the store. Either way its bad customer service for them to turn you down like that. "Can I give you $550 for this item" rep "no" ... "only $199" doesn't make sense. I'd raise hell. I realize they make money off the data plans and.contracts and how att works but either way you look at it that's poor customer relations and incorrect information directly from a.corporate store.
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I don't think the infuse is only 399 off contract anywhere. I just looked online on att.com and its 550. If you can show me where to get it for 400 bucks I'm buying right now.
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Off topic - I hate you because you have a Transformer and I don't.
I'm not sure I'd plunk down that much for the infuse anyway. It has the same gps issues as the captivate and nexus s phone. To me I'd buy an iPhone and have your brother send it along with your grandparents or even an atrix. I like my phones to work right.
galaxyjeff said:
I'm not sure I'd plunk down that much for the infuse anyway. It has the same gps issues as the captivate and nexus s phone. To me I'd buy an iPhone and have your brother send it along with your grandparents or even an atrix. I like my phones to work right.
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the gps if far better than the galaxy s phones. trust me on that. it can use altered settings as it has quirks but the gps is not the same hardware or drivers and is by far improved
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I don't think the infuse is only 399 off contract anywhere. I just looked online on att.com and its 550. If you can show me where to get it for 400 bucks I'm buying right now.
The inspire not infuse
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Was at at&t store and thought I remember seeing off contract price of $549.00 I am in KC, Mo.
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As long as you have a active account with AT&T then they will sell you a phone out of contract or no commitment pricing. If you don't have a account they don't have to sell it to you
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Dani897 said:
they can deny anything to anyone. but you can buy it on there website. they dont want to run out and are hoping that this will attract many new contracts so they prefer to sell to new subscribers. my att reps dont care either way and i had the option to buy outright, i shoulda taken that option but it is too late now. im not sure if i can cancel an early upgrade in the first month like a new contract.
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+++ Inventory is thin right now. They would rather sell that phone with a contract, which they probably did short after. Or if not, at least sell to a current customer.
Heuser1 said:
I'm not sure if there is one near him unfortunately... I guess I should mention he lives in Boston at the moment, not cool on the part of the AT&T he went to.
Do you happen to know how much Walmart and Target are selling them for?
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Do you happen to know what store in Boston he went to? I live in Boston and was able to buy one from the Downtown Crossing store with no issues. Just be nice to the AT&T reps and don't look/act like a grey market reseller
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So I wired my younger brother the money to pick up my phone in the US and send it back with my grandparents who are there visiting... He went to AT&T today and they denied him the ability to purchase me the phone off contract. He said he tried for a little, but they kept saying that they would not sell it to him off contract. I told him to try and go back if he can, but he might not be able to due to work and my grandparents leaving soon.
Can AT&T actually deny selling the phone off contract? I told him that if he is able to go back, to tell them that it is being sold from AT&T stores for $549.00 and to ask how it is possible for them to deny the sale.
I understand that they dont make money selling phones, but rather the service, but to just deny him is crazy...
Thoughts? Opinions? Suggestions?
Thanks everyone! Have been at this android thing for almost a year and I am still without one...
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Yes, AT&T rep told me that first couple of weeks no AT&T store will sell a new phone without contract.
You have to go to bestbuy for that. I bought mine there for $599 without contract.
Another option is online purchase from AT&T's website for $549 without contract, but there may be some issues with that.
Heuser1 said:
So I wired my younger brother the money to pick up my phone in the US and send it back with my grandparents who are there visiting... He went to AT&T today and they denied him the ability to purchase me the phone off contract. He said he tried for a little, but they kept saying that they would not sell it to him off contract. I told him to try and go back if he can, but he might not be able to due to work and my grandparents leaving soon.
Can AT&T actually deny selling the phone off contract? I told him that if he is able to go back, to tell them that it is being sold from AT&T stores for $549.00 and to ask how it is possible for them to deny the sale.
I understand that they dont make money selling phones, but rather the service, but to just deny him is crazy...
Thoughts? Opinions? Suggestions?
Thanks everyone! Have been at this android thing for almost a year and I am still without one...
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Just happened to me today as i got my Infuse...
ATT store said that they do not sell new phones off contract for the first month after release....
I had to go to Radio Shack to buy the phone...