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I'm running cognition 2.4.1 on my captivate and it's great unless my memory is low and then it's laggy and slow. 304mb of available ram for this phone is a joke so i need a way to manage my memory so that i have at least 100mb of ram free always or else it slows down. Does anyone know of an app that does that? i don't want a task killer. I'm getting sick of having to always use level 2 ram clear on the integrated froyo task manager. Also, I'm running launcher pro.
Android. You don't need to manage your memory; Android does this effectively and efficiently. Google the topic and you'll find a lot of information.
Get one of the i9000 roms with the setiron kernel, it has 343mb of memory available.
peachpuff said:
Get one of the i9000 roms with the setiron kernel, it has 343mb of memory available.
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Oh i see. Is it as fast as cognition 2.4.1 and has ext4 lag fix imbedded? Can you give me the link please?
skinien said:
Android. You don't need to manage your memory; Android does this effectively and efficiently. Google the topic and you'll find a lot of information.
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Obviously it doesn't because I always have to click the level 2 ram clear or else it runs like a htc hero. I don't want it to use more than the amount i specify. If my phone had 512mb of ram than this wouldn't be an issue, mine shows 304mb free. What a mess.
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Oh i see. Is it as fast as cognition 2.4.1 and has ext4 lag fix imbedded? Can you give me the link please?
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Faster than cognition, it has universal lagfix included. Take your pick...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818030
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829500
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829245
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831542
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821323
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803569
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Faster than cognition, it has universal lagfix included. Take your pick...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818030
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829500
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829245
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831542
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821323
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803569
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Wow! Thank you so much! This phone is amazingly stable and fast now, the extra 36mb of ram helps a lot.
Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery level. these were the apps that i downloaded just before the raam went low. oh and i only have 4 widgets running on my screen. (google search widget, power control widget (the one with options to toggle wifi, bluetooth etc etc on and off), a go taskmanager widget to show me how much ram i have and a music app widget) BTW im rooted running stock 2.1. Hope someone can help me!
If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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DarkMD said:
If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?
androidlover123 said:
oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?
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must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.
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must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.
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oh ya i forgot to mention i have already been using autokiller memory optimizer at strict level for a month already. yesterday i changed it to aggressive hoping that my ram would increase but to no avail.
then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?
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then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?
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huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)
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huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)
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Try to clean cache frequently, that help to
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My suggestion would be to flash the stock Cincinnati bell sbf. I did that recently it is the most updated one from Motorola and is set at 720 MHz by default. I don't use anything and my ram is around 55-60. Smooth as hell. I use launcherpro. Its prettier, you can choose the keep in memory option which stops it from redrawing the screen. Mine is rooted. I get a day and half of battery life with wifi and autosync in 100% of the time, an hour of GPS, 1 hour gaming, one hour music and the odd texts or calls. Hope that helps. Nothing in my opinion beats stock 2.1
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I use CyanogenMod 6 and its pretty nice... i have around 70-80 mb of ram free... btw i have about 25 apps instaled...
Overclock at: 1.1ghz @ 70vsel
Sorry for my bad english jaja
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androidlover123 said:
Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery......
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If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....
Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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I agree..... but there are still several issues to fix.... I'm waiting for the final product..... Great work by Mioze.
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If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....
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Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.
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Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.
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if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?
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if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?
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ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!
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ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!
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If you are going to do it from scratch, I suggest you use the cincinnati bell sbf. I have had a very good experience with that. Root with universal androot 1.6.2 beta. After that install open recovery and youre set.
i have about 60 applications installed and here a screen shot of a very comon amount of ram i have in mafia wars when done any were from 95 to 110 i have availble for use.
It looks like KJ3 ROM on captivate uses more RAM that KH3. To confirm this can I reuest guys to post their RAM usage for KH, KI and all KJ versions. Please use TaskManager to clear memory and note the base RAM......it may not be accurate but will give an idea. In my experience KH3 runs around 170 MB and KJ3 is at 230 MB.
Thanks for any input
im on a kj3 rom using about 230 myself.
RAM in android is SUPPOSED to be used... free RAM is wasted RAM.
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RAM in android is SUPPOSED to be used... free RAM is wasted RAM.
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only true if the ram is taken by cache not some unknow process/bloatware.
erbsmokah said:
im on a kj3 rom using about 230 myself.
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Thanks, erbsmokah for your input.
studacris said:
RAM in android is SUPPOSED to be used... free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Yes, but if you follow peoples comments on KJ3, like I am doing, KJ3 is using a much larger RAM amount, AND when further customized by adding apps, live wallpapers etc, is actually SLOWING the phone considerably. This making the phone real sluggish........which is new for a android ROM......??
EDIT: would you mind sharing your ROM and RAM?
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only true if the ram is taken by cache not some unknow process/bloatware.
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I agree with this especially on the KJ3......Something is different in what is running in the background, and I hope I can investigate if this turns out to be true for other people.
I agree and went back to fatsy ki rom and it stays faster longer without lag.
I also monitor free ram and once it gets below 40, it lags badly, over 50 it flies.
I think this phone really needed 1 gig like the gs2
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electroau said:
I think this phone really needed 1 gig like the gs2
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+1, if the captivate had more ram, I'd still be using it.
Simba501 said:
+1, if the captivate had more ram, I'd still be using it.
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+1 I myself am willing to agree..........if this RAM usage is a consensus on KJ3 then maybe the cappy is reaching its last usable ROM update? This is important to know......
EDIT: Of course, since this a leak release, then ATT/Samsung are fooling around with this build........., and maybe come back to normal on next leak ?? As a captivate owner, I would like to know what life my phone has as a "advanced" device........
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Yes, but if you follow peoples comments on KJ3, like I am doing, KJ3 is using a much larger RAM amount, AND when further customized by adding apps, live wallpapers etc, is actually SLOWING the phone considerably. This making the phone real sluggish........which is new for a android ROM......??
EDIT: would you mind sharing your ROM and RAM?
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Fusion x beta kj3 267mb Ram used ATM. But no lag whatsoever.
If you find that the ram does get bogged down just on this firmware version then perhaps the lmk settings in the kernel aren't as aggressive, which would be easily fixed by SOURCE CODE.
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Fusion x beta kj3 267mb Ram used ATM. But no lag whatsoever.
If you find that the ram does get bogged down just on this firmware version then perhaps the lmk settings in the kernel aren't as aggressive, which would be easily fixed by SOURCE CODE.
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Point well taken........
But due you expect LMK to let ~100 MB slip by? It seems a little too much, since the limit on cappy is about 370 (usable). I would think we so much consumption LMK would kick in earlier?????
My KJ3 is using 227 MB. Free memory is ~50 MB. It lags significantly at times. However, I used Auto Memory Manager and set the Android internal task killer to "aggressive" and it keeps ~100 MB free an there is not lag at all now. I haven't noticed (yet) that apps get killed prematurely, which could be an issue with this setting. I'm using the Samurai 1.2 kernel overclocked to 1.252 GHz (no Voodoo lag fix). Other than the occasional black screen on the Gallery, my Captivate has been running pretty fast and seems to have as good a battery life as I remember ever having.
Edit #1: I don't think Auto Memory Manager is needed with Samurai 1.2. This kernel is tweaked already. I set Auto Memory Manager back to default settings, uninstalled it, then re-installed the kernel.
Here's another tip, move all of your apps from the internal SD card to phone memory. Having them on the SD card cause significant lag, crashing, and rebooting for me.
Edit #2: I switched to Pinnacle 1.3 with the latest Boog's kernel, and my KH3 is using 329 MB (the same as KJ3 I was using before (I must have made a typo above when I claimed 227 MB on KJ3 (I verified this before I switched to KH3/Pinnacle)). What governs how much RAM is used? Does it really make any difference? Free memory makes a huge difference in lag, however.
On latest MIUI and i have ~200 MBs of free memory!
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Surely not that much... M on miui too n the lowest I get is 80,otherwise I am up there at 130ish... But then I have a crapload of services in the background. But yes, I do get 200 when I clear memory.
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Hi everyone,
I notice my TOTAL RAM (not used RAM) is gradually decreasing. For example, my total RAM started at 1.79, then went to 1.69, not at 1.59. Is this normal? Why is it decreasing? What can I do to increase to total RAM back to out of box (or close thereto) of 1.79?
Thanks for your help.
Uhhh I just checked mine and I have 1.56 wtf. I swore it was 1.79 before I switched to jb tw.
Actual ram available on this device is 1.6gb on touchwiz...aosp roms might be slightly more.
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Uhhh I just checked mine and I have 1.56 wtf. I swore it was 1.79 before I switched to jb tw.
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Exactly. I know my S3 started at 1.79 out the box. Now at 1.59. Although I've rooted my phone previously, I unrooted my phone and am now back o stock. Any help to get total RAM back up is appreciated.
kdubs71 said:
Exactly. I know my S3 started at 1.79 out the box. Now at 1.59. Although I've rooted my phone previously, I unrooted my phone and am now back o stock. Any help to get total RAM back up is appreciated.
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Haven't you accepted OTA's since you first had this phone? The small difference in ram missing is likely because of newer firmware updates similar to, for example, the missing internal storage of your 16GB or 32 GB that is dedicated to TW. Couldn't the same hold true for ram since we don't get a full 2 GB out of the box? If you've used Odin to return to stock and your available ram hasn't changed to what you remember it was at, there's likely no getting that back.
My max has been at/around 1.62 GB of ram FWIW.
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Mine is also 1.59. If everyone the same it being used by new OS/firmware. If you are even close to using it all need to kill some apps running apps.. I have 200+ apps on mine and still only using half of it.
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Haven't you accepted OTA's since you first had this phone? The small difference in ram missing is likely because of newer firmware updates similar to, for example, the missing internal storage of your 16GB or 32 GB that is dedicated to TW. Couldn't the same hold true for ram since we don't get a full 2 GB out of the box? If you've used Odin to return to stock and your available ram hasn't changed to what you remember it was at, there's likely no getting that back.
My max has been at/around 1.62 GB of ram FWIW.
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Yes I've accepted OTAs. Currently on VRLHE. Not sure what happened to RAM. Just don't like to see it going down like this. maybe future OTAs will help.
They are obviously reallocating it somewhere, maybe the gpu?
1630 ram here on AOSP.
Couple things, touchwiz hogs up a lot of ram, so if you are on a touchwiz rom you WILL have less ram. AOSP roms use far less ram, so if your on AOSP you'll have a lot more (hence me having 1630). Free ram is wasted ram as well, if its not being used then its being wasted. And finally as updates come things can be relocated to other places, just because you can't see it doesn't mean its not there and not doing something helpful
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Hi everyone,
I notice my TOTAL RAM (not used RAM) is gradually decreasing. For example, my total RAM started at 1.79, then went to 1.69, not at 1.59. Is this normal? Why is it decreasing? What can I do to increase to total RAM back to out of box (or close thereto) of 1.79?
Thanks for your help.
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I think I have noticed the same thing efore
Just a question, why are we concerned with "only" having 1.59gb of ram? Is that not enough to run with? I mean damn most phone that come out the same time had 1gb. I see wanting to know whats using it but I wouldn't be worried about running out. Haha
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droidx2.3.3 said:
Just a question, why are we concerned with "only" having 1.59gb of ram? Is that not enough to run with? I mean damn most phone that come out the same time had 1gb. I see wanting to know whats using it but I wouldn't be worried about running out. Haha
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Agreed. 2 gigs of ram (1.6x actual ram) is more than enough ram. The reason why so many phones now that have 1gig of ram run slow is because so much of that ram is used by Sense, touchwiz, motoblur, etc which slows everything down. That's why AOSP is nice to have as an option because you get so much more actual ram to use thats not being sucked up by manufacturer skins. Getting 2gigs is a huge plus solely because of the touchwiz UI, because if we only had 1gig like the international version we'd be stuck with things appearing to run slower than they should.
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Agreed. 2 gigs of ram (1.6x actual ram) is more than enough ram. The reason why so many phones now that have 1gig of ram run slow is because so much of that ram is used by Sense, touchwiz, motoblur, etc which slows everything down. That's why AOSP is nice to have as an option because you get so much more actual ram to use thats not being sucked up by manufacturer skins. Getting 2gigs is a huge plus solely because of the touchwiz UI, because if we only had 1gig like the international version we'd be stuck with things appearing to run slower than they should.
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I know the feeling about the laggy feel of not enough ram. I came from a droid x with only 512mb. Most times it wad bearable but others it was an annoyance.
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I wondered this same thing, but with no other phones to compare to. But yes, I'm down to 1.59GB as well
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Right now i have AOKP on my nexus 10 which has 2gb of ram, and usually aokp and nova launcher along with the other random apps running takes up atleast, if not just less than a gb of ram. And i really only have 1.6 gb of ram......so what should i do?
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Vman4 said:
Right now i have AOKP on my nexus 10 which has 2gb of ram, and usually aokp and nova launcher along with the other random apps running takes up atleast, if not just less than a gb of ram. And i really only have 1.6 gb of ram......so what should i do?
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Well if you could be specific on those random apps it would help
Make sure you read through the entire thread of the rom that you like and see if anyone has commented on its performance battery etc. before picking it.
2 gb ram should not run out too fast, to my knowledge, as my phone has only 256 mb ram (140 mb available for applications and data) and I don't find such issues. ( I cannot describe all that I do to keep my phone running fast as I don't want the post to be cluttered)
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ttp://lifehacker.com/5596108/how-to-choose-the-right-android-rom-for-you
That link should help you decide on which rom suits you best.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/cwovf/in_light_of_all_the_discussions_right_now_about/
This will help you set up your phone in order to keep it specific to your needs
Hope i helped
Vman4 said:
Right now i have AOKP on my nexus 10 which has 2gb of ram, and usually aokp and nova launcher along with the other random apps running takes up atleast, if not just less than a gb of ram. And i really only have 1.6 gb of ram......so what should i do?
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what are these 'random' apps you speak of?
Android likes to make use of as much ram as it can, to keep everything running well and to allow switching between apps quick, if you start to run out of ram android will kill a few unused apps to allow more space.
So unless you device is really lagging there is no issue
There more lag than other should be, but when I clear the apps, and the only thing running is the ROM and nova launcher, it says .70 GB of 1.60 is used or whatever
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Vman4 said:
There more lag than other should be, but when I clear the apps, and the only thing running is the ROM and nova launcher, it says .70 GB of 1.60 is used or whatever
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I had a similar problem on my stock rom (lg p350) if i remember correctly. I would recommend using Autostarts and Autokiller(not a task manager)
as you can get rid of unnecessary applications that keep running after startup and optimize your android os to kill apps more aggressively.
Check my previous post for the link (the reddit one)