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[Q] Low RAM?

Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery level. these were the apps that i downloaded just before the raam went low. oh and i only have 4 widgets running on my screen. (google search widget, power control widget (the one with options to toggle wifi, bluetooth etc etc on and off), a go taskmanager widget to show me how much ram i have and a music app widget) BTW im rooted running stock 2.1. Hope someone can help me!

If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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DarkMD said:
If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?

androidlover123 said:
oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?
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must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.

eejin2 said:
must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.
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oh ya i forgot to mention i have already been using autokiller memory optimizer at strict level for a month already. yesterday i changed it to aggressive hoping that my ram would increase but to no avail.

then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?

eejin2 said:
then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?
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huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)

androidlover123 said:
huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)
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Try to clean cache frequently, that help to
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My suggestion would be to flash the stock Cincinnati bell sbf. I did that recently it is the most updated one from Motorola and is set at 720 MHz by default. I don't use anything and my ram is around 55-60. Smooth as hell. I use launcherpro. Its prettier, you can choose the keep in memory option which stops it from redrawing the screen. Mine is rooted. I get a day and half of battery life with wifi and autosync in 100% of the time, an hour of GPS, 1 hour gaming, one hour music and the odd texts or calls. Hope that helps. Nothing in my opinion beats stock 2.1
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I use CyanogenMod 6 and its pretty nice... i have around 70-80 mb of ram free... btw i have about 25 apps instaled...
Overclock at: 1.1ghz @ 70vsel
Sorry for my bad english jaja
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androidlover123 said:
Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery......
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If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....

Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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spectacle said:
Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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I agree..... but there are still several issues to fix.... I'm waiting for the final product..... Great work by Mioze.

abet1017 said:
If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....
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Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.

androidlover123 said:
Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.
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if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?

eejin2 said:
if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?
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ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!

androidlover123 said:
ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!
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If you are going to do it from scratch, I suggest you use the cincinnati bell sbf. I have had a very good experience with that. Root with universal androot 1.6.2 beta. After that install open recovery and youre set.

i have about 60 applications installed and here a screen shot of a very comon amount of ram i have in mafia wars when done any were from 95 to 110 i have availble for use.

[POLL] RAM consumption test request

It looks like KJ3 ROM on captivate uses more RAM that KH3. To confirm this can I reuest guys to post their RAM usage for KH, KI and all KJ versions. Please use TaskManager to clear memory and note the base RAM......it may not be accurate but will give an idea. In my experience KH3 runs around 170 MB and KJ3 is at 230 MB.
Thanks for any input

im on a kj3 rom using about 230 myself.

RAM in android is SUPPOSED to be used... free RAM is wasted RAM.

studacris said:
RAM in android is SUPPOSED to be used... free RAM is wasted RAM.
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only true if the ram is taken by cache not some unknow process/bloatware.

erbsmokah said:
im on a kj3 rom using about 230 myself.
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Thanks, erbsmokah for your input.

studacris said:
RAM in android is SUPPOSED to be used... free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Yes, but if you follow peoples comments on KJ3, like I am doing, KJ3 is using a much larger RAM amount, AND when further customized by adding apps, live wallpapers etc, is actually SLOWING the phone considerably. This making the phone real sluggish........which is new for a android ROM......??
EDIT: would you mind sharing your ROM and RAM?

arda99 said:
only true if the ram is taken by cache not some unknow process/bloatware.
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I agree with this especially on the KJ3......Something is different in what is running in the background, and I hope I can investigate if this turns out to be true for other people.

I agree and went back to fatsy ki rom and it stays faster longer without lag.
I also monitor free ram and once it gets below 40, it lags badly, over 50 it flies.
I think this phone really needed 1 gig like the gs2
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electroau said:
I think this phone really needed 1 gig like the gs2
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+1, if the captivate had more ram, I'd still be using it.

Simba501 said:
+1, if the captivate had more ram, I'd still be using it.
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+1 I myself am willing to agree..........if this RAM usage is a consensus on KJ3 then maybe the cappy is reaching its last usable ROM update? This is important to know......
EDIT: Of course, since this a leak release, then ATT/Samsung are fooling around with this build........., and maybe come back to normal on next leak ?? As a captivate owner, I would like to know what life my phone has as a "advanced" device........

chappatti said:
Yes, but if you follow peoples comments on KJ3, like I am doing, KJ3 is using a much larger RAM amount, AND when further customized by adding apps, live wallpapers etc, is actually SLOWING the phone considerably. This making the phone real sluggish........which is new for a android ROM......??
EDIT: would you mind sharing your ROM and RAM?
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Fusion x beta kj3 267mb Ram used ATM. But no lag whatsoever.
If you find that the ram does get bogged down just on this firmware version then perhaps the lmk settings in the kernel aren't as aggressive, which would be easily fixed by SOURCE CODE.

studacris said:
Fusion x beta kj3 267mb Ram used ATM. But no lag whatsoever.
If you find that the ram does get bogged down just on this firmware version then perhaps the lmk settings in the kernel aren't as aggressive, which would be easily fixed by SOURCE CODE.
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Point well taken........
But due you expect LMK to let ~100 MB slip by? It seems a little too much, since the limit on cappy is about 370 (usable). I would think we so much consumption LMK would kick in earlier?????

My KJ3 is using 227 MB. Free memory is ~50 MB. It lags significantly at times. However, I used Auto Memory Manager and set the Android internal task killer to "aggressive" and it keeps ~100 MB free an there is not lag at all now. I haven't noticed (yet) that apps get killed prematurely, which could be an issue with this setting. I'm using the Samurai 1.2 kernel overclocked to 1.252 GHz (no Voodoo lag fix). Other than the occasional black screen on the Gallery, my Captivate has been running pretty fast and seems to have as good a battery life as I remember ever having.
Edit #1: I don't think Auto Memory Manager is needed with Samurai 1.2. This kernel is tweaked already. I set Auto Memory Manager back to default settings, uninstalled it, then re-installed the kernel.
Here's another tip, move all of your apps from the internal SD card to phone memory. Having them on the SD card cause significant lag, crashing, and rebooting for me.
Edit #2: I switched to Pinnacle 1.3 with the latest Boog's kernel, and my KH3 is using 329 MB (the same as KJ3 I was using before (I must have made a typo above when I claimed 227 MB on KJ3 (I verified this before I switched to KH3/Pinnacle)). What governs how much RAM is used? Does it really make any difference? Free memory makes a huge difference in lag, however.

On latest MIUI and i have ~200 MBs of free memory!
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Surely not that much... M on miui too n the lowest I get is 80,otherwise I am up there at 130ish... But then I have a crapload of services in the background. But yes, I do get 200 when I clear memory.
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[Q] How much available RAM is usable?

if you enable the Task Manager widget how much RAM do you have when your not running any Apps, how much Ram is available on average with no apps running

well i have from 200 to 250 free ram with nothing running but i striped my phone right down to just the apps and stuff i use it took a bit of trial and error but runs awsome now.

xstokerx said:
well i have from 200 to 250 free ram with nothing running but i striped my phone right down to just the apps and stuff i use it took a bit of trial and error but runs awsome now.
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Same here. Never seen it go above 248. I still have some tweaking to do so that might change.
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wow what the hell mine is always at 130mb with no apps running, i have an INternational version of the O3D, anny suggestions?

No apps running 300-322 mb!!! Cm7
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xtian63 said:
wow what the hell mine is always at 130mb with no apps running, i have an INternational version of the O3D, anny suggestions?
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With everything stock, the RAM is 130MB or even less. In normal use, the RAM management of the stock ROMs is very bad. I get down to 50-70MB before it starts killing apps which results to lag.
The solution is simple but it involves rooting and/or installing custom ROMs. With the stock ROM just remove apps you don't need (there is a full list of the apps in a dedicated thread here). Or install a custom ROM (best for RAM management is CM7 but you will lose most of the 3D functionality).

botson71 said:
With everything stock, the RAM is 130MB or even less. In normal use, the RAM management of the stock ROMs is very bad. I get down to 50-70MB before it starts killing apps which results to lag.
The solution is simple but it involves rooting and/or installing custom ROMs. With the stock ROM just remove apps you don't need (there is a full list of the apps in a dedicated thread here). Or install a custom ROM (best for RAM management is CM7 but you will lose most of the 3D functionality).
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wow thanks atleast i know my O3D has no problems with ram, well its normal so time to root and manage apps

Mine around 200-240mb but above 120mb there is no lagg at all. fast reboot is really doing its job well

mines 130~140 with 3 screens full of widgets all teh way from showing cpu clock, ram, internal sd, external sd, weather, text time app folders etc to xboxlive stats, facebook, opera favorites etc. Since it's o/c'd to 1.3ghz on acura v21D it's still quite fast.

Draegloth said:
Mine around 200-240mb but above 120mb there is no lagg at all. fast reboot is really doing its job well
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200-240MB with the stock ROMs or with a custom ROM?

[Q] Ram issues withICS

After updating from GB to ICS 4.0.4 using the official update my nexus has slowed down.Earlier available free RAM always used to be above 180 mb.
But now it is always less than 130 mb.
As a result the experience has become really sluggish..

Hi...
Maybe u have to many app running in backround...
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i checked on the running apps also
even if i close all the apps (except android keyboard which is taking 11mb) available free memory is 130-140 mb only.

That seems about right. I have about 140 free once everything has been set up(google voice always running). But you said the phone was running sluggishly. Have you installed any other apps that weren't on your phone before the update? My phone got the official OTA and was pretty fast even before I rooted it again. Last resort would be a factory reset.

sdutta said:
After updating from GB to ICS 4.0.4 using the official update my nexus has slowed down.Earlier available free RAM always used to be above 180 mb.
But now it is always less than 130 mb.
As a result the experience has become really sluggish..
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How is it sluggish with 130mb free
Got to be something else causing this
With ram script I don't go under 90 and still really quick snappy

chronophase1 said:
That seems about right. I have about 140 free once everything has been set up(google voice always running). But you said the phone was running sluggishly. Have you installed any other apps that weren't on your phone before the update? My phone got the official OTA and was pretty fast even before I rooted it again. Last resort would be a factory reset.
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I hav removed the 3-4 apps dat i installed after the update.But still no improvement.
For the people who have updated to ICS on nexus can u plz tell wat is the avg. available free RAM for you

sdutta said:
For the people who have updated to ICS on nexus can u plz tell wat is the avg. available free RAM for you
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I came from GB 2.3.6 and upgraded to ICS 4.0.3. (no root/mods)
With ICS 4.0.3 the average free RAM was around 70-90 MB. After demanding programs everything felt a little sluggish for a few moments. The biggest problem was the launcher (Nova) that often would redraw all the icons.
With the 4.0.4 (also stock) i had 80-90 MB free and everything ran noticeably smoother.
Then i rooted and flashed the Matr1x kernel. Now i typically got around 120-150 MB free.

stock rom are bad... i tip to flash mod rom... the best i think is cyberGR rom....

can anyone suggest some ways to free up more RAM to atleast 180-190mb

Get a ROM and kernel with bigmem support? I just flashed the latest matr1x kernel and constantly have over 180mb free. I don't really need all the extra RAM as my phone has never really bogged down.

130? I'm lucky to stay above 60mb free. No sluggishness though, and I use the stock launcher, and it doesn't redraw.
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sdutta said:
can anyone suggest some ways to free up more RAM to atleast 180-190mb
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You need a custom rom. CM9 V6 works the best for this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399035
Basically when you install this. It just installs a new system which basically wipes all the useless crap you dont need on the stock rom. Also if that doesnt help. Try the free astro manager and its modules. It basically allows you to enter your phone data and SD card. And research on what to wipe and not to wipe.
Also if you dont mind. Wipe dalvik cache. It wipes your application data. I highly recommend you to research on wipe dalvik cache and cache.

is it possible that available free ram is less bcoz of cached apps.
GB didnt use cached apps unlike ICS

It is not particularly wise to draw far-reaching conclusions from the size of free RAM, in particular on Linux based systems.
Some used RAM can be anytime freed if necessary (cached/buffered/shared), otherwise it will enhance the general responsiveness of the system.
The Linux kernel manages RAM great, so you shouldn't worry about free RAM, unlike on Windows systems. If the system needs more RAM, Android will find the best possible way to produce it through removing really unneeded processes and services from RAM.
It can happen, that it seems you've got no free RAM, still the system is pretty responsive.

sdutta said:
After updating from GB to ICS 4.0.4 using the official update my nexus has slowed down.Earlier available free RAM always used to be above 180 mb.
But now it is always less than 130 mb.
As a result the experience has become really sluggish..
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Having greater than 100 MB free is enough to create a smooth experience. Actually the more RAM your phone is using for recent apps, the better the experience is since your phone doesn't have to keep loading all of the app data into RAM. On the contrary, I would think the more RAM is used the less loading and therefore quicker app launching.
More RAM does not equate to a faster phone.

anglergab said:
It is not particularly wise to draw far-reaching conclusions from the size of free RAM, in particular on Linux based systems.
Some used RAM can be anytime freed if necessary (cached/buffered/shared), otherwise it will enhance the general responsiveness of the system.
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That said, if you're looking at the memory display in "Running processes" in the Android settings, memory used for file cache or by cached background processes counts as "free".
In my experience, ICS does tend to use more memory than Gingerbread, but not so much so that it's a problem. I do run with 64 MB swap, which makes no appreciable difference to speed either way, but reduces the number of launcher restarts.

I usually have 50 to 60 MB free. My phone is very smooth at all times.
Eat at Joe's

tooy and then under the development section is the stock rooted tom that has a performance mod to ti. I would then save that to the phone and then in clock work mod do a factory reset three times and then install the performance mod and it will be alot better.

[Q] Paranoid Android Rom / RAM amount

Coming from Leedroid ROM to Paranoid Android ROM
Really like the ROM
I use Go Launcher as my launcher
When in Go Launchers app drawer you can use its built in app killer on the "running" tab.
When on that tab it shows ram usage and total ram available.
Mine shows a total of 685mb available and anywhere from approx 425-550mb used .
Is this normal?
Do cm10 based ROMs leave you with less available ram?
I swear it showed more available on Leedroid ROM...like 950+mb.
Any help?
Thanks all!

ROMROMROM73 said:
Coming from Leedroid ROM to Paranoid Android ROM
Really like the ROM
I use Go Launcher as my launcher
When in Go Launchers app drawer you can use its built in app killer on the "running" tab.
When on that tab it shows ram usage and total ram available.
Mine shows a total of 685mb available and anywhere from approx 425-550mb used .
Is this normal?
Do cm10 based ROMs leave you with less available ram?
I swear it showed more available on Leedroid ROM...like 950+mb.
Any help?
Thanks all!
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Yes it is normal the apps open one another so its gonna take up space and use up some ram, as for cm10 based roms idk how much it gives you, but as for leedroid it either was really slimmed down in order to give you that much free ram or you exaggerated that, I doubt any rom would give you that much free space of ram at most I've seen free was 715 mb and that was on a senseless based rom totally stripped down bare. So yea that should be general info on that but if it is incorrect please feel free to correct me..hopefully I cleared up somethings for you
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