[Q] Paranoid Android Rom / RAM amount - HTC One S

Coming from Leedroid ROM to Paranoid Android ROM
Really like the ROM
I use Go Launcher as my launcher
When in Go Launchers app drawer you can use its built in app killer on the "running" tab.
When on that tab it shows ram usage and total ram available.
Mine shows a total of 685mb available and anywhere from approx 425-550mb used .
Is this normal?
Do cm10 based ROMs leave you with less available ram?
I swear it showed more available on Leedroid ROM...like 950+mb.
Any help?
Thanks all!

ROMROMROM73 said:
Coming from Leedroid ROM to Paranoid Android ROM
Really like the ROM
I use Go Launcher as my launcher
When in Go Launchers app drawer you can use its built in app killer on the "running" tab.
When on that tab it shows ram usage and total ram available.
Mine shows a total of 685mb available and anywhere from approx 425-550mb used .
Is this normal?
Do cm10 based ROMs leave you with less available ram?
I swear it showed more available on Leedroid ROM...like 950+mb.
Any help?
Thanks all!
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Yes it is normal the apps open one another so its gonna take up space and use up some ram, as for cm10 based roms idk how much it gives you, but as for leedroid it either was really slimmed down in order to give you that much free ram or you exaggerated that, I doubt any rom would give you that much free space of ram at most I've seen free was 715 mb and that was on a senseless based rom totally stripped down bare. So yea that should be general info on that but if it is incorrect please feel free to correct me..hopefully I cleared up somethings for you
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[Q]How much ram you have available?

On my phone i can get at least 175mb of ram free. For some weird reason my phone says in total of ram i have 576mb. But the specs online says its 768mb of ram. My gf myTouch 4g (non-slide) has more ram available than my slide. I will like to know your phone's ram? how much you have free?
Mine says the same thing. My guess is it has dedicated some ram as video memory.
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tevroc said:
Mine says the same thing. My guess is it has dedicated some ram as video memory.
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Yes
sonicjam said:
On my phone i can get at least 175mb of ram free. For some weird reason my phone says in total of ram i have 576mb. But the specs online says its 768mb of ram. My gf myTouch 4g (non-slide) has more ram available than my slide. I will like to know your phone's ram? how much you have free?
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The OS itself reserves RAM for the GPU/Camera/Driver files like radio/cell/etc...
On Sense 3.0 a lot of RAM is used for sense to function since it has extended features compared to Stock/vanilla. You can use the task manager in the status/notification bar to close some apps but not all will be closed...There are background services and some apps that stay in RAM so that they can open faster later on...If you're phone is rooted then you can use the supercharger link in my sig to at least help with the available RAM issue and gain speed if that's an issue. I have a MT4G and I get more Free Ram than you when using the MT4GS's ROM or even the sensation's ROM too. Mines is normally around 200+. Please go in to settings->Manage apps->And look at running services
Yeah this is my 1st Android and I'm learning a lot about it. I am wondering if anyone else has the same space of ram. Man I wished it was 1gb of ram that would be awesome.
Sent from my myTouch 4g Slide.
sonicjam said:
Yeah this is my 1st Android and I'm learning a lot about it. I am wondering if anyone else has the same space of ram. Man I wished it was 1gb of ram that would be awesome.
Sent from my myTouch 4g Slide.
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Low Ram is not a bad thing, this means android is caching files for faster access things later, this way that RAM is being used up. Most android phones have 512MB or less, imagine if you had that much on this phone, the EVO3D doesn't have as much as you would think available, as you know it also has Sense 3.0 . Your RAM issue can be addressed by closing active apps via the task manager as I had said before, or going directly into settings-->manage apps-->services or the options mentioning running apps.
I see what you mean it makes sense to me. So i'm good then.
It sucks!!
I hard reset my phone because my nephews install too much crap on it...and all i have free ram is 180-183....??? Is that what everyone gets??
For some reason, my friend's 4g Slide (khaki color) has more ram when I do a hard reset....
I have 177mb free with no applications running. 575mb total
The phone as shipped runs way to many background programs. I was never over 200mb free. I rooted my phone and have stripped out a ton of useless apps. I now see 400mb free when the phone starts but it usually ends up with ~350mb free.
If I kill EVERYTHING except a couple of processes (weather, beautiful widgets, wpclock, sense) i can get 235mb of free ram.
It honestly doesn't matter, the phone still performs great with less than 100mb free ram.
Edit: The HTC task manager says 174mb free, w/no apps running. ATK on the other hand, shows a tons of things that are running that don't need to be
My Account
Amazon Appstore
Google+
GMail
Elixir
Maps
Music
Notes
Video Chat
Twitter
I kill everything and get 220mb free ram.
raduque said:
If I kill EVERYTHING except a couple of processes (weather, beautiful widgets, wpclock, sense) i can get 235mb of free ram.
It honestly doesn't matter, the phone still performs great with less than 100mb free ram.
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If you think it runs great now try running it with the useless junk stripped out. It is easily 30-50% faster.
banzairx7 said:
If you think it runs great now try running it with the useless junk stripped out. It is easily 30-50% faster.
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I have deleted most everything that it came with (except a few things I would use anyway) and it really didn't change much except that I get more unused ram when I hit "kill selected apps" in ATK

[Q] How much available RAM is usable?

if you enable the Task Manager widget how much RAM do you have when your not running any Apps, how much Ram is available on average with no apps running
well i have from 200 to 250 free ram with nothing running but i striped my phone right down to just the apps and stuff i use it took a bit of trial and error but runs awsome now.
xstokerx said:
well i have from 200 to 250 free ram with nothing running but i striped my phone right down to just the apps and stuff i use it took a bit of trial and error but runs awsome now.
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Same here. Never seen it go above 248. I still have some tweaking to do so that might change.
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wow what the hell mine is always at 130mb with no apps running, i have an INternational version of the O3D, anny suggestions?
No apps running 300-322 mb!!! Cm7
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xtian63 said:
wow what the hell mine is always at 130mb with no apps running, i have an INternational version of the O3D, anny suggestions?
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With everything stock, the RAM is 130MB or even less. In normal use, the RAM management of the stock ROMs is very bad. I get down to 50-70MB before it starts killing apps which results to lag.
The solution is simple but it involves rooting and/or installing custom ROMs. With the stock ROM just remove apps you don't need (there is a full list of the apps in a dedicated thread here). Or install a custom ROM (best for RAM management is CM7 but you will lose most of the 3D functionality).
botson71 said:
With everything stock, the RAM is 130MB or even less. In normal use, the RAM management of the stock ROMs is very bad. I get down to 50-70MB before it starts killing apps which results to lag.
The solution is simple but it involves rooting and/or installing custom ROMs. With the stock ROM just remove apps you don't need (there is a full list of the apps in a dedicated thread here). Or install a custom ROM (best for RAM management is CM7 but you will lose most of the 3D functionality).
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wow thanks atleast i know my O3D has no problems with ram, well its normal so time to root and manage apps
Mine around 200-240mb but above 120mb there is no lagg at all. fast reboot is really doing its job well
mines 130~140 with 3 screens full of widgets all teh way from showing cpu clock, ram, internal sd, external sd, weather, text time app folders etc to xboxlive stats, facebook, opera favorites etc. Since it's o/c'd to 1.3ghz on acura v21D it's still quite fast.
Draegloth said:
Mine around 200-240mb but above 120mb there is no lagg at all. fast reboot is really doing its job well
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200-240MB with the stock ROMs or with a custom ROM?

[Q] Ram issues withICS

After updating from GB to ICS 4.0.4 using the official update my nexus has slowed down.Earlier available free RAM always used to be above 180 mb.
But now it is always less than 130 mb.
As a result the experience has become really sluggish..
Hi...
Maybe u have to many app running in backround...
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i checked on the running apps also
even if i close all the apps (except android keyboard which is taking 11mb) available free memory is 130-140 mb only.
That seems about right. I have about 140 free once everything has been set up(google voice always running). But you said the phone was running sluggishly. Have you installed any other apps that weren't on your phone before the update? My phone got the official OTA and was pretty fast even before I rooted it again. Last resort would be a factory reset.
sdutta said:
After updating from GB to ICS 4.0.4 using the official update my nexus has slowed down.Earlier available free RAM always used to be above 180 mb.
But now it is always less than 130 mb.
As a result the experience has become really sluggish..
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How is it sluggish with 130mb free
Got to be something else causing this
With ram script I don't go under 90 and still really quick snappy
chronophase1 said:
That seems about right. I have about 140 free once everything has been set up(google voice always running). But you said the phone was running sluggishly. Have you installed any other apps that weren't on your phone before the update? My phone got the official OTA and was pretty fast even before I rooted it again. Last resort would be a factory reset.
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I hav removed the 3-4 apps dat i installed after the update.But still no improvement.
For the people who have updated to ICS on nexus can u plz tell wat is the avg. available free RAM for you
sdutta said:
For the people who have updated to ICS on nexus can u plz tell wat is the avg. available free RAM for you
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I came from GB 2.3.6 and upgraded to ICS 4.0.3. (no root/mods)
With ICS 4.0.3 the average free RAM was around 70-90 MB. After demanding programs everything felt a little sluggish for a few moments. The biggest problem was the launcher (Nova) that often would redraw all the icons.
With the 4.0.4 (also stock) i had 80-90 MB free and everything ran noticeably smoother.
Then i rooted and flashed the Matr1x kernel. Now i typically got around 120-150 MB free.
stock rom are bad... i tip to flash mod rom... the best i think is cyberGR rom....
can anyone suggest some ways to free up more RAM to atleast 180-190mb
Get a ROM and kernel with bigmem support? I just flashed the latest matr1x kernel and constantly have over 180mb free. I don't really need all the extra RAM as my phone has never really bogged down.
130? I'm lucky to stay above 60mb free. No sluggishness though, and I use the stock launcher, and it doesn't redraw.
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sdutta said:
can anyone suggest some ways to free up more RAM to atleast 180-190mb
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You need a custom rom. CM9 V6 works the best for this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399035
Basically when you install this. It just installs a new system which basically wipes all the useless crap you dont need on the stock rom. Also if that doesnt help. Try the free astro manager and its modules. It basically allows you to enter your phone data and SD card. And research on what to wipe and not to wipe.
Also if you dont mind. Wipe dalvik cache. It wipes your application data. I highly recommend you to research on wipe dalvik cache and cache.
is it possible that available free ram is less bcoz of cached apps.
GB didnt use cached apps unlike ICS
It is not particularly wise to draw far-reaching conclusions from the size of free RAM, in particular on Linux based systems.
Some used RAM can be anytime freed if necessary (cached/buffered/shared), otherwise it will enhance the general responsiveness of the system.
The Linux kernel manages RAM great, so you shouldn't worry about free RAM, unlike on Windows systems. If the system needs more RAM, Android will find the best possible way to produce it through removing really unneeded processes and services from RAM.
It can happen, that it seems you've got no free RAM, still the system is pretty responsive.
sdutta said:
After updating from GB to ICS 4.0.4 using the official update my nexus has slowed down.Earlier available free RAM always used to be above 180 mb.
But now it is always less than 130 mb.
As a result the experience has become really sluggish..
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Having greater than 100 MB free is enough to create a smooth experience. Actually the more RAM your phone is using for recent apps, the better the experience is since your phone doesn't have to keep loading all of the app data into RAM. On the contrary, I would think the more RAM is used the less loading and therefore quicker app launching.
More RAM does not equate to a faster phone.
anglergab said:
It is not particularly wise to draw far-reaching conclusions from the size of free RAM, in particular on Linux based systems.
Some used RAM can be anytime freed if necessary (cached/buffered/shared), otherwise it will enhance the general responsiveness of the system.
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That said, if you're looking at the memory display in "Running processes" in the Android settings, memory used for file cache or by cached background processes counts as "free".
In my experience, ICS does tend to use more memory than Gingerbread, but not so much so that it's a problem. I do run with 64 MB swap, which makes no appreciable difference to speed either way, but reduces the number of launcher restarts.
I usually have 50 to 60 MB free. My phone is very smooth at all times.
Eat at Joe's
tooy and then under the development section is the stock rooted tom that has a performance mod to ti. I would then save that to the phone and then in clock work mod do a factory reset three times and then install the performance mod and it will be alot better.

Infuse ram

is there a way to increase the infuse ram?
well no and yes. you can't physically add ram very easily and i doubt the board has space for it even if you did have the specialized soldering equipment.
but there is a big ram mod on the galaxy s that was attempted on the infuse but was buggy that makes use of ram that was allocated for something else. if someone wants to do the kernel work i think something like 20-30 mb more could be available. i'm not really sure of the details but a stock galaxy s has like 300-315 mb available and most custom kernels make 335-345 available out of 384 physical (128 is video ram and i'm not counting that). the infuse physically has 512 mb so maybe we could use up to 470 if some work was done in that area. not really a big deal though, i dont have any lag associated with programs being dumped from ram and restarting. the 440 mbs that i have available now is plenty for a nice clean aosp rom.
if you really need more ram maybe swap space (the linux equivalent of a page file/virtual memory) could be setup on the sdcard. but that wont make the phone any faster, it would just give the cpu more work to do. it would strictly help with a situation where things were getting wiped from ram too often when ram was low.
Jack it up and park a SGS3 under it. :silly:
Dani897 said:
well no and yes. you can't physically add ram very easily and i doubt the board has space for it even if you did have the specialized soldering equipment.
but there is a big ram mod on the galaxy s that was attempted on the infuse but was buggy that makes use of ram that was allocated for something else. if someone wants to do the kernel work i think something like 20-30 mb more could be available. i'm not really sure of the details but a stock galaxy s has like 300-315 mb available and most custom kernels make 335-345 available out of 384 physical (128 is video ram and i'm not counting that). the infuse physically has 512 mb so maybe we could use up to 470 if some work was done in that area. not really a big deal though, i dont have any lag associated with programs being dumped from ram and restarting. the 440 mbs that i have available now is plenty for a nice clean aosp rom.
if you really need more ram maybe swap space (the linux equivalent of a page file/virtual memory) could be setup on the sdcard. but that wont make the phone any faster, it would just give the cpu more work to do. it would strictly help with a situation where things were getting wiped from ram too often when ram was low.
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what rom and what launcher are you using becuase im experiencing abit of lag and i want it gone!!
Yoshiikim said:
what rom and what launcher are you using becuase im experiencing abit of lag and i want it gone!!
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run this kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134995
with this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100625
^^^ lol. that kernel might have access to more ram but it's froyo. i doubt the lag the op is experienceing is ram related. but he can try it with it's misreported clock speeds and all.
my best experience with touchwiz roms is a stock debloated rom, odex, not deodex. and there is an overclock kernel around somewhere. the tw4 launcher works best for me, but of course that needs framework mods to run, the tw4.5 launcher in the market will work but some features don't work too well on the infuse. turn off auto rotate. the sony arc launcher and the latest tw3 launcher with looped scrolling are also nice. but i like tw4 for it's improved widget picker. the stock android widget picker is so slow.
best rom now is aosp. i'm running entropy's ics build but also enjoyed rem-ics. either the trebuchet launcher or the sgs3 launcher should be fine. i like folders in the app drawer on sgs3. but i keep my phone pretty clean, if you do a clean install with either a stock unmodified rom and custom kernel or a clean aosp rom and you still feel lag then you might want to invest in an sgs3.
If you got the knowledge you can rewright the code to use ram differently as noted earlier...but no amount of software hacking will actually get you more ram...I know linux has a thing called swap which is similar to ram but is its own partion of the HDD...if someone had the knowledge they could possibly create a partion of it and add some kernel hacks to utilize it...
But as far as actually adding more ram-impossible as far as I know...there is no chip on the mother board to add ram.like in a desktop or laptop...I believe its built into the motherboard so your stuck with what's on it
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[Q] Do Roms usually take up a lot of ram

Right now i have AOKP on my nexus 10 which has 2gb of ram, and usually aokp and nova launcher along with the other random apps running takes up atleast, if not just less than a gb of ram. And i really only have 1.6 gb of ram......so what should i do?
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Vman4 said:
Right now i have AOKP on my nexus 10 which has 2gb of ram, and usually aokp and nova launcher along with the other random apps running takes up atleast, if not just less than a gb of ram. And i really only have 1.6 gb of ram......so what should i do?
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Well if you could be specific on those random apps it would help
Make sure you read through the entire thread of the rom that you like and see if anyone has commented on its performance battery etc. before picking it.
2 gb ram should not run out too fast, to my knowledge, as my phone has only 256 mb ram (140 mb available for applications and data) and I don't find such issues. ( I cannot describe all that I do to keep my phone running fast as I don't want the post to be cluttered)
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ttp://lifehacker.com/5596108/how-to-choose-the-right-android-rom-for-you
That link should help you decide on which rom suits you best.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/cwovf/in_light_of_all_the_discussions_right_now_about/
This will help you set up your phone in order to keep it specific to your needs
Hope i helped
Vman4 said:
Right now i have AOKP on my nexus 10 which has 2gb of ram, and usually aokp and nova launcher along with the other random apps running takes up atleast, if not just less than a gb of ram. And i really only have 1.6 gb of ram......so what should i do?
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what are these 'random' apps you speak of?
Android likes to make use of as much ram as it can, to keep everything running well and to allow switching between apps quick, if you start to run out of ram android will kill a few unused apps to allow more space.
So unless you device is really lagging there is no issue
There more lag than other should be, but when I clear the apps, and the only thing running is the ROM and nova launcher, it says .70 GB of 1.60 is used or whatever
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Vman4 said:
There more lag than other should be, but when I clear the apps, and the only thing running is the ROM and nova launcher, it says .70 GB of 1.60 is used or whatever
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I had a similar problem on my stock rom (lg p350) if i remember correctly. I would recommend using Autostarts and Autokiller(not a task manager)
as you can get rid of unnecessary applications that keep running after startup and optimize your android os to kill apps more aggressively.
Check my previous post for the link (the reddit one)

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