Is any one interested in setting up a bounty for the dev or devs that achieve unlocked bootloader or s-off.
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I've searched around, and you're right, there is seems to be no bounty yet for unlocked bootloader and/or S-Off on the AT&T One X. There is a bounty in the international version forum (up to $1700), but its specifically for S-Off. As we all know, the international and Rogers versions can have their bootloaders unlocked via HTCDev. Since unlocked bootloader and S-Off are distinctly separate issues, it would seem to me that a separate bounty would be worthwhile. Especially since there seem to be different players involved that are working specifically on the AT&T version (and therefore deserve a separate bounty).
I'd definitely be willing to pledge money to a bounty. I'd also be willing to setup a thread, and maintain it, in order to track the users that have pledged, amounts, and running total.
This is provided you folks feel this is a worthwhile pursuit. Let me know.
I'd also like thoughts on how the bounty should be setup (if we are going to do it). A bounty of unlocked bootloader is a no-brainer. But should we have a separate bounty for S-Off on the AT&T (and probably Rogers)? Would this be redundant to the one going on in the international forum (is an S-Off solution for that version likely to also work on the AT&T version?)?
Yeah that sounds like a plan. We need it..It should bring a little more attention to our cause from devs who normally wouldnt have cared.. Who doesnt need an extra grand or two? I'd b willing to pledge $50 to the cause..
I'll be willing to pledge $20.
Please don't make pledges here. I'll make a seperate thread, so I can maintain it, and name it accordingly as [BOUNTY].
I'll still post the above pledges on the bounty thread, once I start it. But are these pledges explicitly for unlocked bootloader, and not S-Off (or both)?
I'd also like to get opinions on what would be done if AT&T ever allows the bootloader to be unlocked via HTCDev. Are people going to ditch out on their bounty pledges? Should we make some conditions, or keep a separate total for people who only will pay for a dev solution if AT&T doesn't unlock the bootloader?
and if At&t decides to unlock it? Where does the bounty money go. Do we keep it? lol
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and if At&t decides to unlock it? Where does the bounty money go. Do we keep it? lol
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That's a question I just posed above. I think many of us will still want a bootloader unlock solution that does not void your warranty (or at least not explicitly notify HTC that it was unlocked). But it would be good to know when pledging, if the person pledging is still willing to pay or not if AT&T unlocks it.
It would be great if you would set up a thread. And I agree with the unlock method that would not void our warranty. I'll keep a lookout for your new thread and post what my pledge will be.
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firstly, i think the bounty should be toward Bootloader unlock only for now as it is the most important, then if AT&T and HTC decides to unlock it for us before a dev can we can move the amount of money towards a bounty for the S-Off just my personal opinion!
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firstly, i think the bounty should be toward Bootloader unlock only for now as it is the most important, then if AT&T and HTC decides to unlock it for us before a dev can we can move the amount of money towards a bounty for the S-Off just my personal opinion!
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Not a bad idea. But even if AT&T unlocks the bootloader, I'd probably still be willing to give my money to a dev that comes up with a method to unlock the bootloader without HTC being notified. If a dev puts a lot of work into it, and does do it successfully, it would suck to see his reward go down the drain.
And this is one of the reasons I bring up the question. Some people are going to still want an dev produced bootloader unlock solution, and willing to pay even if AT&T unlocks it; while other may not share that same feeling.
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I've started a new thread to track the bounty pledges:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26259949
Please make your pledges there, and there only. I've tracked the pledges already noted above, but I do not intend on regularly checking this thread for pledges.
Mods, I suggest closing this thread to avoid any confusion of people posting their pledges here. But just a suggestion.
Thanks to the OP for getting the ball rolling on this.
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Okay folks, I figured I could either hang back and wait for a root / Cyanogenmod ROM for the DoubleShot and cross my fingers, or I could put my money where my mouth is.
I've got $25 (via PayPal) waiting for the first person to sort me out with a way to get permanent root status on my S-ON doubleshot, and another $25 for the first Cyanogenmod ROM I can download with a better pixel density and none of the T-Mobile crap. I also offer myself as a beta tester.
$25 for so much work isn't very much, but if we can get some more folks to pledge some cash, then there could be a nice wee incentive for devs to get this thing rolling nice and fast.
Anybody else?
EDIT: $150 pledged already! This is great! Keep it coming! Our beloved devs work hard so that we can have the best and most awesome phones; let's sweeten the deal for them.
If you want some guarantee that I'm gonna stick my fifty in ($25 for S-Off and another $25 for the first CyanogenMod ROM that works), well, I've got six thousand players on improbableisland.com who'll be extremely disillusioned if their admin caveman didn't hold up to a promise.
EDIT EDIT: Root Achieved! Donate here:
http://revolutionary.io/doubleshot
For reference, I rounded up to eighteen Euros, which works out to $26.29 as of the time of this edit.
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Okay folks, I figured I could either hang back and wait for a root / Cyanogenmod ROM for the DoubleShot and cross my fingers, or I could put my money where my mouth is.
I've got $25 (via PayPal) waiting for the first person to sort me out with a way to get permanent root status on my S-ON doubleshot, and another $25 for the first Cyanogenmod ROM I can download with a better pixel density and none of the T-Mobile crap. I also offer myself as a beta tester.
$25 for so much work isn't very much, but if we can get some more folks to pledge some cash, then there could be a nice wee incentive for devs to get this thing rolling nice and fast.
Anybody else?
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S-OFF (and consequently root) is in the works. I'll let you know when I have more info.
I'm sure AlphaRev and unrevoked can use their exploit to S-off the myTouch Slide 4G.
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I'm sure AlphaRev and unrevoked can use their exploit to S-off the myTouch Slide 4G.
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Yes and no. Again, I'll let you know when I have more.
Keep us posted with updates. S-On, the locked bootloader, and no root are what's keeping me from buying this device.
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Keep us posted with updates. S-On, the locked bootloader, and no root are what's keeping me from buying this device.
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The appropriate parties are working various attack vectors and we're hoping to have something to show for it soon.
I'm in for $25...
Okay folks, I figured I could either hang back and wait for a root / Cyanogenmod ROM for the DoubleShot and cross my fingers, or I could put my money where my mouth is.
I've got $25 (via PayPal) waiting for the first person to sort me out with a way to get permanent root status on my S-ON doubleshot, and another $25 for the first Cyanogenmod ROM I can download with a better pixel density and none of the T-Mobile crap. I also offer myself as a beta tester.
$25 for so much work isn't very much, but if we can get some more folks to pledge some cash, then there could be a nice wee incentive for devs to get this thing rolling nice and fast.
Anybody else?
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Keep us posted with updates. S-On, the locked bootloader, and no root are what's keeping me from buying this device.
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With the perma-temp root, you can do root. You just have to re-run a script after a reboot... not ideal, but at least we can do root stuff while we wait.
kinger2011 said:
Okay folks, I figured I could either hang back and wait for a root / Cyanogenmod ROM for the DoubleShot and cross my fingers, or I could put my money where my mouth is.
I've got $25 (via PayPal) waiting for the first person to sort me out with a way to get permanent root status on my S-ON doubleshot, and another $25 for the first Cyanogenmod ROM I can download with a better pixel density and none of the T-Mobile crap. I also offer myself as a beta tester.
$25 for so much work isn't very much, but if we can get some more folks to pledge some cash, then there could be a nice wee incentive for devs to get this thing rolling nice and fast.
Anybody else?
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I'd be in for $25 as well, but I'm not sure if the group doing the exploit have a way to receive these funds as a collective. I'll investigate that later today.
EDIT: nevermind. They do. Lets see who else we can get together for a fund! $75 so far.
I'm in for $25 too, the MT4GS needs S-OFF and Root like Pearl Harbor needed a better plot (and that's an awful lot).
New total = $100
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I'm in for $25 too, the MT4GS needs S-OFF and Root like Pearl Harbor needed a better plot (and that's an awful lot).
New total = $100
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I'm in for $25. Diddnt care about S-OFF or Root on my G2, but **** all this bloatware on the MT4GS.
New Total = $125
I'd be in but only for an exploit that doesn't involve 18000 steps, scripting and downloading tons of large installs. Why can't be as easy to root as my A500!?!?!?!
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I'd be in but only for an exploit that doesn't involve 18000 steps, scripting and downloading tons of large installs. Why can't be as easy to root as my A500!?!?!?!
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It will be streamlined.
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I'd be in but only for an exploit that doesn't involve 18000 steps, scripting and downloading tons of large installs. Why can't be as easy to root as my A500!?!?!?!
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If you've owned a G1, you'd know that various root processes that involve that many steps ARE streamlined (the root process, A2SD, DeathSPL, CyanogenMod after 4.1.11.1, etc. involved over 9000 steps that weren't feasible on a Windows machine).
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I'd be in for $25 as well, but I'm not sure if the group doing the exploit have a way to receive these funds as a collective. I'll investigate that later today.
EDIT: nevermind. They do. Lets see who else we can get together for a fund! $75 so far.
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Nbetcher, are you one of the developers in one of those teams that make unlock tools?
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Nbetcher, are you one of the developers in one of those teams that make unlock tools?
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Not really. Lets just say I'm "consulting" for them for our device. I have direct contacts though.
since the MT4GS is so closely related to the E3D and the Sensation, shouldn't this be a piece of cake?? I've never done any work on exploits, so I'm not sure exactly what goes into it. just curious.. with $125 on the table I'm tempted to dig into it myself.
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since the MT4GS is so closely related to the E3D and the Sensation, shouldn't this be a piece of cake?? I've never done any work on exploits, so I'm not sure exactly what goes into it. just curious.. with $125 on the table I'm tempted to dig into it myself.
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Yes, it is similar hence the hope that it can be accomplished. The notable difference is that the Evo 3D ("Shooter") is HBOOT 1.40 and ours' is HBOOT 1.44. The Sensation (Pyramid) is even older than Shooter. Point being? We have a newer HBOOT, so things may take more time, plus I'm not sure if the appropriate party received my message that there's $125 on the line.
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with $125 on the table I'm tempted to dig into it myself.
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Good luck. Unrevoked went to a lot of work to prevent reverse engineering and now that AlphaRev and Unrevoked are a team ('Revolutionary'), the Pyramid and Shooter S-OFF release is likely just as closed as Unrevoked releases.
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Good luck. Unrevoked went to a lot of work to prevent reverse engineering and now that AlphaRev and Unrevoked are a team ('Revolutionary'), the Pyramid and Shooter S-OFF release is likely just as closed as Unrevoked releases.
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yes, I see that digging into the pyramid release. oh well. I respect that it's their work and I'm not about to waste hours upon hours of my time trying to figure that mess out.
I contacted HTC requesting help (considering they're finally starting to get the ball rolling on unlocking bootloaders), but I'm not really holding out much hope there.
did you let the team know that the MT4GS guys have put $150 (I'm adding $25 to the fund as well) on the table for the first team/person to get the doubleshot s-off'd?
I was on the fence as to where to post this. If it needs to be moved its cool
We should all pester Verizon about giving customers the option of unlocking our phones with the agreement that we void our warranty on flashing issues.. Non-defect issues. It will save them some returns. Make it easy for us.. and we can flash new roms.. They sold us the Galaxy S3 and we expect the full Galaxy S3 experience.. as they did not note changes that our phones have on their site at this time or our time of purchase.
Same thoughts exactly. I just sent them an Email. I LOVE how they then give us the option to buy a unlockable dev phone for six hundred bucks. Screw that. Ill take my 600 and use it for early termination. This has to change.
This should probably be moved to the general forum, but anyways I highly doubt Verizon would do such a thing, but it wouldn't hurt to ask. Let us know what you hear back
Let's take a stroll over to thy general section gentlemen.
How do I move this thread? Or delete this one?
The Evita has been available for nearly 3 months now. Is AT&T going to allow sanctioned bootloader unlocking? Was there any indication that after a period of time, the phone would be unlock able via HTC Dev? I'm considering selling my One X and never buying an At&T subsidized phone again, You are trying to come across as development friendly, but alas your flagship device sold in the United States is not unlock able.
Please advise without a canned response about carrier restrictions. I know all about that answer, I'd like a straight yes or no on this question please.
Lets see what I get in response
knowing the good folks at HTC you'll get the carrier crap...
heres to hoping tho
here's an idea, which is always fun. play the carrier against the manufacturer.
when they say its the carrier, go to the carrier and ask them, when each other blames it on each other, show them that's what going on. they hate.
Back when the phone launched I,along with a few other people filed complaints against AT&T with the BBB they went nowhere.
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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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Oh I did
I can per persistent as hell.
I just hate the thought of this awesome phone's dev community getting screwed without the benefit of even a reach around.
I'm in a very pissy mood today.
They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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I will say thanks for taking the plunge first ....I know I'm better off because of it ....
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They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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The a$$holes quit responding to me as well... I feel you gunny. I'm a lil worried about all this WP added everywhere .. they are sealing all our holes..
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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That is the truth. It's AT&T's fault. Start emailing them.
When I first got my phone and they gave me the generic customer satisfaction text I left negative feedback. If you leave below a certain score they will ask you why you wouldn't recommend the phone. I mentioned the bootloader and bloatware, as well as lack of Wallet support.
Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.
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Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.
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There may be more of us than you think. AT&T is about to give up on the added tethering plans for certain users. The new shared data family plans include tethering. You just pick your data cap and go.
Even though I've got grandfathered unlimited data, I may go for this when it's available. Adding up data totals for the three smartphones I'm paying for, we'll still save some money and get "free" tethering.
I feel the exact same way Gunny. My Nexus One was my first smart phone, and obviously, my first HTC. I had such a good experience, I went straight back to HTC for my next phone (this one) but it's clear now that the Nexus One was an anomaly in HTC's history. I'm thinking its going to be Nexus or Samsung devices only for me from now on. Not sure how much longer I can hold out with this device. If the damn camera wasn't so awesome I would have sold it months ago. =(
Billy
HTC can't do anything, it's not their fault. You should be contacting AT&T, not HTC.
im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?
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im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?
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I have no idea. Either way it does affect yor warranty, so I'm not sure why others dont use the CID mod to unlock.
We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update
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We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update
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The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.
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The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.
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Exactly
This is for any Verizon device, not just the Samsung Galaxy S5. Please spread this to other device forums!
Recently, I came up with an idea of a developer program. What this program would do is allow people to pay a fee to have their bootloaders unlocked, regardless of the device. This would allow people the freedom to modify their device or develop for it without any issues. I did a little research and could not find anything similar to this (besides developer edition devices). So, with this idea in mind, I sent an email to the Executive VP of Verizon. Twenty minutes later, I received a phone call from his office. Long story short (there was a lot of talk about rooting and unlocking), the guy who called me put my idea through to marketing. However, since only about 1% of customers root their devices, there is concern of the interest in this.
What this thread is for is to see how many people would be interested in this program.
What would you be willing to pay to customer service to have your bootloader unlocked?
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$5
$25
$50
$100
Please use only one of those five prices, and no other prices.
You may discuss this in further detail in this thread. However, arguing, trolling, slandering, bickering, and anything else that will clutter this thread and overwork the moderators WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. This thread is not the thread to argue with others over the details since the idea is already in marketing. If you wish to argue or troll, please take it somewhere else. And, as always, please follow the forum rules. Thank you for looking at this thread.
For those who are concerned with the warranty, please read this. Huge thanks to @shootind5nukes for this info.
Just so everyone knows the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act prevents someone from totally VOIDING a warranty. Verizon/Samsung could only deny to warranty something if they can prove something you did cause the issue. Anything that has nothing to do with what you did still has to be under warranty. If you LCD started to lose color or get dead pixels that would still have to be covered because that has nothing to do with bootloaders and flashing ROMS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act
"The federal minimum standards for full warranties are waived if the warrantor can show that the problem associated with a warranted consumer product was caused by damage while in the possession of the consumer, or by unreasonable use, including a failure to provide reasonable and necessary maintenance."
I learned about this when I was going to get my truck lifted. I was told if I did it would VOID my truck's warranty. After looking into it further it didn't actually VOID anything. But for example if I went in to get my suspension fixed because it broke they could argue that the lift kit put stress on the suspension and that's why it failed so they would not have to cover it. But if my motor exploded because it was made out of cheese it would still be under warranty, the entire warranty can never be voided. Only damage caused by what you did. Food for thought guys.
If anyone has anything to add please do.
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Here is the email of the VP I emailed if you want to email him about the developer program. Again, thank you @shootind5nukes for this idea.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/aboutus/leadership/executive/profiles/david-small.html
IF YOU DO EMAIL HIM, BE POLITE AND RESPECTFUL PLEASE.
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$0. I am a firm believer that the devices I purchase should be fully open for customization.
At this point I would be willing to pay a one time fee of $25. It makes sense it would be a charge since the dev edition has to be bought at full price.
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Verizon has alot of customers 1% is alot of people.
Great program, if implemented. Kudos for the idea AND getting a response! I would pay up to a hundred bucks for an official unlock like this, but I have ATT...
25 is fair, but I'd pay up to 50, if it included some insurance for the device. Is also say, that as an ATT customer, a service like this would tempt me to switch to Verizon
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I'm on ATT as well but would pay upto $50. But my question is if they give a way to unlock it, it would be universal thru all phones. So why wouldn't i just tell my friend. If they would do this why wouldn't they just charge an extra $50 on every phone and have every phone unlocked. No more hassle. Why are they so greedy? If it's only 1% that care about there freedom what would they loose? They would make tons more money.....
http://i.imgur.com/0OBoXTC.jpg
I agree w/ @Cat McGowan, devices should be open for development. And therefore would like to pay $0, but a $5 fee isn't too bad...
According to this there are 107.7 million Verizon wireless customers. So if 1.077 Million people (1%) root there devices on Verizon Wireless and are willing to pay $5 for a bootloader unlock, If everybody pays $5 to unlock there device Verizon would make 5.385 Million Dollars
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I voted for $50 because that seems reasonable but at this point ive been looking to buy a $200 device that is unlockable so i would really probably pay more for a clean, official unlock. I agree that the spirit of Android should be open and therefore unlocked for free but its obvious that OEMs dont feel this way and Google isnt likely to "pull an Apple" so to speak and tell OEMs to leave their devices unlocked.
How wonderful would it be to not have to risk bricking devices and staying one step ahead to keep root and ROM?!
If Big Red is talking about this then its a milestone indeed. For so long the official position has been to shut it down. Maybe all of our annoying voices are finally breaking through?
I for one, constantly post on their facebook page, email and frequently call just to bug em about this. Keep it up and step it up! Maybe we can get somewhere?
Edit: Which VP did you email? haha. Seems like everyone on their site is a VP of something or another. Maybe we could all make our voices heard together?
I'd pay $100 if i had to, but $50 is more realistic. If it was $100 i feel like that would dissuade enough people from spending that type of money to the point where community development is lacking , just like it is for locked down devices with only DevEd's as an option.
I really really hope something comes from this. TMo is just looking too good these days but i don't want to give up this network.
I would be comfortable with $25.00.
I'm with big blue, would pay 25 bucks in a heartbeat. 50... ehh, I'd be hesitant. This is the first device I've owned where I wasn't hellbent on unlocking the bootloader
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joshuabg said:
According to this there are 107.7 million Verizon wireless customers. So if 1.077 Million people (1%) root there devices on Verizon Wireless and are willing to pay $5 for a bootloader unlock, If everybody pays $5 to unlock there device Verizon would make 5.385 Million Dollars
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I voted for $100, but all of these choices seem reasonable to me. Obviously being able to do it for free would be optimal.
The quote above really isn't a great way of looking at it. Sure, $5M sounds like a lot, but taken in context it is a rounding error at a place like Verizon. That $5M isn't enough to move top line revenue by a single basis point, and therefore wouldn't be enough incentive to the bottom line. Even $100 for the 1.077M people would only add 10 basis points to top line revenue.
All that said, money can't be the sole factor for getting them to let us unlock the bootloaders. They would have to look at the goodwill it would create, and the new customers, as evidenced above, that they could steal away from the other carriers.
Personally I believe we should pay $0 as I paid for the device and should be allowed to do as I please with it. Realistically tho $5-$10 wouldnt be terrible
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I'd be willing to pay up to $50. I would think Verizon could easily steal some customers away from other carriers by offering something like this. However, I don't see any carrier offering any kind of warranty on a device that has had its bootloader modified. It would be very easy for a newb like myself to brick my device and then try to get another under warranty...
$25
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$0. I am a firm believer that the devices I purchase should be fully open for customization.
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This. All of this.
$25
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Ok, as of 4.4.x The device was unlock-able unless you pay some money to a Chinese website.
WARNING: You must legally own the device off contract for this to work!
Here are a few steps to try
1) https COLON SLASH SLASH motorola-global-portal DOT custhelp DOT com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Go through the sign in process, and follow the instructions it is very straight forward. IF This does not work, which it did not for me, move onto step 2.
2) Call Verizon Wireless 1 (800) 922-0204. Provide them with your IEMI AND OEM Boot Unlock Code, found by following steps in step 1. The process of unlocking the device from VZW contract status can take up to 48 hours. Once done, go to the step 1 and go through the process of getting your unlock code.
They lock the devices because people who usually purchase these phones get them on contract and it breaks the ToS to do this.
That's it! Don't pay a Chinese website to do what you can do for free WITH YOUR LEGALLY OWNED DEVICE. I cannot stress enough how this WILL void, contract, warranties, etc... even any insurance you buy on the device. Water insurance is voided by doing this. If you are on contract they will deny you access if you still owe money on the device. It needs a clean IEMI for this to work!
Any mod wanna sticky this? Any mod want to fix the link please, this is not spam in any way.
Hi
I will have your thread moved to your device section. And threads must mature before being considered for a sticky.
Good luck!
Is this for real? This is how i unlocked my moto x back when it first came out didnt know this was an option...
Pls put the direct link pls
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Pls put the direct link pls
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Is the Verizon portion automated? This could be great news for a lot of people. Me, not so much since I upgraded to the Maxx back in Sept of this year. Lol
Proof that this worked?
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I think this only works on developer edition phone but I could be wrong as I have not tried yet.
Verizon does not unlock non Dev phones period. If they did everyone would be doing it. If you could buy a standard maxx and unlock what would be the point of a Dev edition.
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Verizon does not unlock non Dev phones period. If they did everyone would be doing it. If you could buy a standard maxx and unlock what would be the point of a Dev edition.
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True, the thing that threw me off is that his procedure includes calling Verizon which is unnecessary with the DE and the fact he says it only works with a phone that is not on contract. So he is implying that Verizon is willing to let the phone be unlocked under that condition which I also seriously doubt because Verizon doesn't want unlocked phones on their network period, if they can have it their way. I screwed up and now I'm using a Moto X DE as the daily driver and the Maxx as a backup. I almost want to buy a motherboard with 4.4 on it so I can unlock it but the seller on eBay knows this is doubled the price. Bastard.
Did somebody here buy that motherboard? Damnit!! I was waiting for the guy to lower the price. Lol. Oh well, I'm using the Maxx today and it is not bad. All I'm missing is WiFi tether but my iPad is the 4G version so I can just pull the Sim out of this phone and stick it in there and use all the data I want. Also found out that Verizon doesn't block the tethering capability of the iPad so I can setup a WiFi hotspot easily for the laptop without having to jailbreak, even though my iPad is jail broken... Currently blocking ads using Adguard which doesn't require root. All is good!
So, what exactly do you ask Verizon for? They can't supply the unlock code, that's from the Motorola site.
This guy started this thread 5 days ago and hasn't been back since to answer any ? I hate that don't start a thread with a ludicrous claim then abandon it. That's bull**** why start it at all.
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This guy started this thread 5 days ago and hasn't been back since to answer any ? I hate that don't start a thread with a ludicrous claim then abandon it. That's bull**** why start it at all.
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Thank you @bigv5150 , I totally agree with you and sure quite a few others do. There are a lot of people that depend on XDA for the newest info and break through. Yes some things don't end up being the "Holy Grail" or even usable solution, however there bits of that information end up inspiring some one to find that solution.
But this thread was like a 5 year old getting a huge beautifully wrapped box under the tree only to find out it was just a wrapped empty box, a gag gift. How cruel!
Agreed. This why I love XDA! Always looking for that next update is addicting, lol!
I agree the op is most likely a true troll & post is nonsense as well (but).
Has anyone tried out the OPs suggestion with Vzw?
My phone is still in the Edge plan.
My 4.4.4 Maxx is off contract, and I went through step one but of course being a non-dev version my "device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking".
But I'm with everyone else...what exactly do I ask Verizon tech support to do? How does one even hope to accurately dictate a 131 character code? Seems farfetched to think that Verizon has access to modify the Motorola databases...
Probably an idiot for going this far, don't want to look like a bigger idiot by calling Verizon. But damn, I'd love to unlock and root this thing.
I called to check with Verizon(Why not?), and according to level 2 tech support, they will not assist in bootloader unlocking or anything related to rooting. This is true even though my phone is entirely off contract(no edge either). So while there is a chance that asking the right way might have them help you, I highly doubt it. I got some sort of lecture about the fact that they are a reseller of phones, and that this would somehow kill their deals with phone manufacturers.
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I called to check with Verizon(Why not?), and according to level 2 tech support, they will not assist in bootloader unlocking or anything related to rooting. This is true even though my phone is entirely off contract(no edge either). So while there is a chance that asking the right way might have them help you, I highly doubt it. I got some sort of lecture about the fact that they are a reseller of phones, and that this would somehow kill their deals with phone manufacturers.
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That's funny because they are the ones forcing the manufacturers to lock the bootloader.
The truth is, that they make money from bloatware developers, and do not want to allow the ability to uninstall those apps. If they did, it would devalue the cost they charge for bloatware.