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Hi,
Spoke to HTC support today regarding this software release to unlock the bootloader.
The guy on the phone was pretty honest with me & said don’t expect it any time soon. They’ve released a software update recently & they need to wait & fix any bugs that may come out of that, once that’s finished, those changes will be added to the next software update (which will include the unlock). He advised, this could be a while.
Anyone know of anyone who provides XTC Clip service in the South Wales area?
Im a bit dubious about doing this as I’ve only just got the phone… What you guys think?

stanny2k said:
Hi,
Spoke to HTC support today regarding this software release to unlock the bootloader.
The guy on the phone was pretty honest with me & said don’t expect it any time soon. They’ve released a software update recently & they need to wait & fix any bugs that may come out of that, once that’s finished, those changes will be added to the next software update (which will include the unlock). He advised, this could be a while.
Anyone know of anyone who provides XTC Clip service in the South Wales area?
Im a bit dubious about doing this as I’ve only just got the phone… What you guys think?
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As someone who went the XTC route myself, I've never looked back since , but at the same time, I'm not going to advise you to do it....it's whether you're willing to take the risk....and it is a risk, worst case scenario can you afford a new device if you encounter a fatal hardware failure during year one after you've XTC'd it and have no means of warranty?
See this post for XTC clips around the globe: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042997
It appears that progress has been made recently with regards the software only S-OFF for the IS see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115210 Although still no release date. But, I somehow reckon that they'll achieve this before HTC manages to roll out an OTA unlock for us!
Good luck with your decision!

ben_pyett said:
As someone who went the XTC route myself, I've never looked back since , but at the same time, I'm not going to advise you to do it....it's whether you're willing to take the risk....and it is a risk, worst case scenario can you afford a new device if you encounter a fatal hardware failure during year one after you've XTC'd it and have no means of warranty?
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Well buying a new phone isnt really a problem, not sure if I wanna spend the next year wondering whether my phones gonna go pop or not mind! Especially if it dies on me whilst I actually need it, which in my line of work could be quite tragic!
ben_pyett said:
See this post for XTC clips around the globe: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042997
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thanks for this link!
ben_pyett said:
It appears that progress has been made recently with regards the software only S-OFF for the IS see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115210 Although still no release date. But, I somehow reckon that they'll achieve this before HTC manages to roll out an OTA unlock for us!
Good luck with your decision!
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Now, this is very interesting. Isn't the IS the same as the DS? Think I'm just gonna wait for this! Yeah your right, I dont think HTC will be releasing anything anytime soon. Not a good thing considering I'm probably gonna be getting a Sensation when that gets released.

Can't wait to root my Desire S
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Can't wait to find my local XTC device guy here in Cork, Ireland, need to get my wife's phone rooted to get gtalk and cut out all the HTC bullsh%t.
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give a shout if you find one

Valwit said:
give a shout if you find one
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why triple post???
can't you just use the edit feature??

Mac boy, GTalk is native app, you don't need root to use it...
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For anyone in UK who doesn't want to wait for soft s-off, I am still offering my loan out xtc clip by post service to established UK XDA members. So far my clip has been posted out and returned 4 times with 100% success. For details go to http://www.wix.com/guypennington/xtc-clip-for-loan

[Q] exchanging phone @ AT&T hoping to get one without 1.85; any experience with this?

[Q] exchanging phone @ AT&T hoping to get one without 1.85; any experience with this?
Like an idiot I jumped the gun and updated to 1.85 without changing CID. I went to the store and they obviously didn't have any in stock but they would call me as soon as they got a shipment in/acquired one from another store even if it is past my 30 days.
Does anyone have any recent experience with this? Does it have an earlier version? Or will I be stuck with another 1.85 device?

1.85 hasn't been released... can't see how you'd end up with one.

So you know the risks of using a leaked ruu. Why not just wait for root for 1.85 or a official update ruu?
Nothing is wrong with your device

Why would you need to return it? If being on 1.85 is the only issue, why not wait it out? I can't see why this is a problem that would require an exchange...

If you are not experiencing any problems other than being on 1.85 I would suggest u keep the phone. There is a very good possibility you could end up with a phone that has issues like the one I have and several others have had. Not only that but u flashed it to your phone so why make the carrier pay for something u did.
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meccanikal said:
Like an idiot I jumped the gun and updated to 1.85 without changing CID. I went to the store and they obviously didn't have any in stock but they would call me as soon as they got a shipment in/acquired one from another store even if it is past my 30 days.
Does anyone have any recent experience with this? Does it have an earlier version? Or will I be stuck with another 1.85 device?
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I'm stuck on 1.85 also. The phone runs fine and I can wait for the root.
I'm just curious, what were you going to tell them to convince them to exchange your phone with 1.85 for a stock phone?
Mike

I just took mine to the AT&T store half an hour ago. Since it was finally released from customs they said it should be in stock this week. They let me hold onto the phone and said even if I have to keep it past the 30 days they'll replace it anyway. They said there's a possibility of it being in stock tomorrow, so if I replace it then, I'll let you know.

I swear this forum needs to take a harder stance on threads like these. Suggesting that you're taking the phone back for exchange because you knowingly flashed a software version that is not carrier supported is shameful. These threads should be treated like Warez posts and deleted or locked.
Come on people, these things cost money! HTC and AT&T may make a lot of money, but every time someone does something like this it cuts into their bottom line and you're just driving up costs for the rest of us.
sassafras

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I swear this forum needs to take a harder stance on threads like these. Suggesting that you're taking the phone back for exchange because you knowingly flashed a software version that is not carrier supported is shameful. These threads should be treated like Warez posts and deleted or locked.
Come on people, these things cost money! HTC and AT&T may make a lot of money, but every time someone does something like this it cuts into their bottom line and you're just driving up costs for the rest of us.
sassafras
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My my my someone is feeling self righteous. I'm sure your message/guilt trip is going to be absorbed by the denizens of a modding forum. Friendly reminder AT&T is the one getting in the way of letting you do what you want with your device and usage of data in the first place.

sassafras_ said:
I swear this forum needs to take a harder stance on threads like these. Suggesting that you're taking the phone back for exchange because you knowingly flashed a software version that is not carrier supported is shameful. These threads should be treated like Warez posts and deleted or locked.
Come on people, these things cost money! HTC and AT&T may make a lot of money, but every time someone does something like this it cuts into their bottom line and you're just driving up costs for the rest of us.
sassafras
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Agreed.
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Zabalba said:
My my my someone is feeling self righteous. I'm sure your message/guilt trip is going to be absorbed by the denizens of a modding forum. Friendly reminder AT&T is the one getting in the way of letting you do what you want with your device and usage of data in the first place.
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Your ad hominem attack doesn't do anything to make my point less valid. There is a difference between AT&T locking out things like data tethering (which is stupid) and HTC voiding warranties for bootloader unlocking, which is their prerogative. As an electronics manufacturer who incurs cost every time they accept a warranty return, it makes perfect sense to have a system which allows them to track who has unlocked the bootloader.
As a community of modders, I like to think that we all can accept that we are taking the warranty into our own hands when we modify the device in ways it was not intended to be used.
sassafras

I've been trying for a couple weeks to get mine swapped, both because of 1.85 and because of connection problems.. I just called a store and they said to call tomorrow (31st day since purchase) to see if they have any, and that they would be willing to work with the circumstances... But if you are swapping for no other issue I'm not sure how they'll like that.
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Lets get together and buy Erikmm a Blaze.

He's a great dev that's done some superb blind work for us but he needs a phone.
If we can raise enough it would greatly help this community. I would be happy to start the ball rolling with $30.
Update:
It's been decided to send Erik the money directly via PayPal. His address is [email protected]
We can then copy proof of payment to this tread.

Flowbyte said:
He's a great dev that's done some superb blind work for us but he needs a phone.
If we can raise enough it would greatly help this community. I would be happy to start the ball rolling with $30.
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I'll throw in $20

Great guy to work with and I can say I have learned a ton in a few short weeks. Lets get him a phone so can make this phone even better and I will take a case of red bull for the late night testing. Lol seriously if you get something together , I'm in for $20
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Thanks guys
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40 for me, wers the paypal link?

@the thread if you guys are donating and want to make sure funds are properly used
have someone get the money together and buy the phone and ship it to me...just so you
guys don't think i will take the money and use it on something else.
Edit: just saying this because most of you guys don't know me personally nor have used my prior rom for sgs4g.

I can do 10 now another 10 next paycheck. But how are we going to do this? The only way I actually think will work is sending erikmm the money and trust him to buy the blaze. Or if he came out with another badass update. And he wouldn't release download link unless donated first.
So I guess we would have to take a poll for who would donate for update download link. After poll we can figure out how much each person. Would have to pitch in for erikmm to collect $580 (that's how much I paid after tax) to buy the blaze. What does everyone think? How about you erikmm?

trevor7428 said:
I can do 10 now another 10 next paycheck. But how are we going to do this? The only way I actually think will work is sending erikmm the money and trust him to buy the blaze. Or if he came out with another badass update. And he wouldn't release download link unless donated first.
So I guess we would have to take a poll for who would donate for update download link. After poll we can figure out how much each person. Would have to pitch in for erikmm to collect $580 (that's how much I paid after tax) to buy the blaze. What does everyone think? How about you erikmm?
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Erikmm is correct that we should nominate someone to handle it. as to $580, we can probably do better.
http://us.webuy.com/product.php?sku=SSAMT769TMOC
granted it's C quality, but what does one really need in a dev phone?

Brand new Galaxy S Blaze 4G is sold at $349 on eBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BOX-Sam...0732617648?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item43b103afb0
It's even cheaper for a used one in great condition, around $240 on Craigslist.

As long as the phone is fully functional so I can test everything then the phone can be used...just make sure it isn't blacklisted so I can fix wifi calling and the apn issue.
I have an s2 for personal use so this phone would be a dev phone
Last time I got a phone donated the users sent me the money bc I had a deal with another user to buy his phone it was all done publicly so the community can see. I say the cheapest/safest way to get it would be ebay because it has some guarantee that if the product doesn't work then you can open a case with PayPal
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So whos going to collect the funds. Paypal ready
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badboy68 said:
So whos going to collect the funds. Paypal ready
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See that the #1 question. I have PayPal and have no problem doing so, but sure other people do to. Its either gunna have to be someone with the most posts and thanked (which isn't me)
But me personally I would feel most comfretable with erikmm doing it. But if he doesn't want to or if you guys don't trust him why would you trust someone else?
Either way were gunna have to do a tally for who is willing to pitch in and how much. Just don't be shaddy and back out cause that will get us nowhere
+1 $20 trevor7428
(I think would be less confusing if each person can copy name above and add there name under instead of a bunch of +1s everywhere. Would add people above but don't no if there still in)

trevor7428 said:
See that the #1 question. I have PayPal and have no problem doing so, but sure other people do to. Its either gunna have to be someone with the most posts and thanked (which isn't me)
But me personally I would feel most comfretable with erikmm doing it. But if he doesn't want to or if you guys don't trust him why would you trust someone else?
Either way were gunna have to do a tally for who is willing to pitch in and how much. Just don't be shaddy and back out cause that will get us nowhere
+1 $20 trevor7428
(I think would be less confusing if each person can copy name above and add there name under instead of a bunch of +1s everywhere. Would add people above but don't no if there still in)
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i would do it you guys can look thru my threads on xda and see i got one donated *granted it was only $70 but still*
my idea would be you guys send me the paypal donation and paste you transaction id with quantity here? that way it's public and i'll look/we can all look for a cheap one on ebay?
once we hit that point then i'll buy it and have at it? lol

Router for erikmm?
Erikmm,
Not sure if this helps you, but I have a Netgear WNDR3700 router which I don't need. I could ship to you and you could sell on ebay or something and use the proceeds towards the phone.
Or I could ship to someone else who is willing to list it and sell it and them give you the proceeds.
I think its worth around $70 or so.
I just don't have the time to list it and sell it and do all that stuff... but I cold easily just ship it. Thoughts?

meonline01 said:
Erikmm,
Not sure if this helps you, but I have a Netgear WNDR3700 router which I don't need. I could ship to you and you could sell on ebay or something and use the proceeds towards the phone.
Or I could ship to someone else who is willing to list it and sell it and them give you the proceeds.
I think its worth around $70 or so.
I just don't have the time to list it and sell it and do all that stuff... but I cold easily just ship it. Thoughts?
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lol if I had cash i'd buy the router from you cus mine is ****ting out lol.
but sounds great if someone could put it up, I've been looking for work lately and school those two things take up my time and free time goes to deving thanks man hopefully we get an awesome guy willing to put it for sale

I really like the work erikmm has done for our phone. I dont think anyone else has made an actual working rom with such few issues for our phone. I think getting him a phone so he can help our community would be a huge asset, and im willing to donate also. I dont want to see this phone get left behind, and I do miss flashing different roms like I did with my Vibrant.

erikmm said:
lol if I had cash i'd buy the router from you cus mine is ****ting out lol.
but sounds great if someone could put it up, I've been looking for work lately and school those two things take up my time and free time goes to deving thanks man hopefully we get an awesome guy willing to put it for sale
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Since you need the router, and I don't, and I have been using your ROM... how about you just PM me your address and I'll send it to you. Just promise to keep the Blaze work going as much as you can!

meonline01 said:
Since you need the router, and I don't, and I have been using your ROM... how about you just PM me your address and I'll send it to you. Just promise to keep the Blaze work going as much as you can!
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Very awesome yea dude I actually haven't stopped ask flyers I've even tried to port a rom so I can test on my end but yea blindly is complicated. Lol
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meonline01 said:
Since you need the router, and I don't, and I have been using your ROM... how about you just PM me your address and I'll send it to you. Just promise to keep the Blaze work going as much as you can!
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Trust me the work has not stopped. We have been trying various ports over the last few weeks. Erikm and I have been trying but without the phone his efforts are limited. Hopefully he gets the device and then things will start rolling
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OK. I guess sending Erik the cash via PayPal and posting proof of it here is the way. Let's get rolling Erik what's your PayPal address?
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[Q] Htc one S 1.84 RUU Tmobile

Really Need the Tmobile Htc one S 1.84 Ruu. Am getting error 155 with the 1.53 ruu since the bootloader was upgraded withe the 1.84 ota. Phone is bricked right now

If you p/m football he has it. It will require a donation though.
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Not to be a poor sport but I would think maybe HTC and Google would have a problem with someone wanting a "donation" for their RUU. That's also not very XDA friendly.

I don't think a donation is required (but good if you can spare a few $ for any devs)

I was told by football that it would cost. I am having a problem with my volume keys sticking and can't exchange the phone till I go back to stock. Looking each day with no luck so far. Been checking random One S forums on the net, no luck yet. Will post it if I find it.
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Simco80 said:
I was told by football that it would cost. I am having a problem with my volume keys sticking and can't exchange the phone till I go back to stock. Looking each day with no luck so far. Been checking random One S forums on the net, no luck yet. Will post it if I find it.
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The 1.53 RUU is in the forum under stock roms...

thuddome said:
The 1.53 RUU is in the forum under stock roms...
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Looking for 1.84.

Zolor23 said:
Looking for 1.84.
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Yeah me too and don't want to pay for it. I've been having Wifi and Bluetooth Issues with 1.53. TMO said I should get the update and it's been a week and it still hasn't showed up. If a dev works on a ROM that's one thing and I've contributed to devs in the past but to charge for the RUU I just don't think is right.

thuddome said:
Yeah me too and don't want to pay for it. I've been having Wifi and Bluetooth Issues with 1.53. TMO said I should get the update and it's been a week and it still hasn't showed up. If a dev works on a ROM that's one thing and I've contributed to devs in the past but to charge for the RUU I just don't think is right.
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Here's the thing, he can get it, you can't, it is what it is. He's taking legal risk by distributing proprietary, closed source software, owned solely by HTC. If you want that risk to be worth it to him you gotta make it worth his while. I don't like it either, but I understand. I mean we all know HTC has no problem with c&d letters, legal threats, and possibly even actions.

If he is worried about prosecution, he shouldn't do it. And if he needs the money to defend himself, he won't make enough this way to be worth it. This is more like trying to make a fast buck off something he has that no one else has yet.

davedsone said:
If he is worried about prosecution, he shouldn't do it. And if he needs the money to defend himself, he won't make enough this way to be worth it. This is more like trying to make a fast buck off something he has that no one else has yet.
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How is that any different from those who obtain new devices early and sell them on eBay for $1000? I don't see many people complaining about that, in fact, those over priced devices almost always sell! Those people didn't do anything special either, besides get a product no one else has but many want. No different here! That's life. HTC wouldn't provide it to you at all! People, in general, shouldn't always feel so entitled to things.

Behold_this said:
How is that any different from those who obtain new devices early and sell them on eBay for $1000? I don't see many people complaining about that, in fact, those over priced devices almost always sell! Those people didn't do anything special either, besides get a product no one else has but many want. No different here! That's life. HTC wouldn't provide it to you at all! People, in general, shouldn't always feel so entitled to things.
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Because in the case of a phone you have to buy the phone, it's your property then and you can sell it. With an RUU it is open source and belongs to HTC or T-Mobile, to sell that is violating open source regulations. He can do what he likes, just not very fan friendly.

thuddome said:
Because in the case of a phone you have to buy the phone, it's your property then and you can sell it. With an RUU it is open source and belongs to HTC or T-Mobile, to sell that is violating open source regulations. He can do what he likes, just not very fan friendly.
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Don't think he cares about being "fan friendly." It is what it is, and incidentally, I agree with your opinion. However, that's all it is...opinion.
BTW people that have pre-release phones DID NOT buy them, lol, so your argument doesn't have very much to do with the example I gave.

Behold_this said:
Don't think he cares about being "fan friendly." It is what it is, and incidentally, I agree with your opinion. However, that's all it is...opinion.
BTW people that have pre-release phones DID NOT buy them, lol, so your argument doesn't have very much to do with the example I gave.
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Your example doesn't compare, you are talking an actual phone versus a patch to some software. With physical property, possession is important, with intellectual property it's not. You can't say, just because I have software on my computer that it belongs to me. Whereas you can say, this phone is in my possession, therefore it belongs to me. So just because I have a copy of some software (i.e. RUU) doesn't make it my possession and definitely doesn't mean I can sell it. And going under the "donation" speak doesn't hold water either. Nuff said, he can do what he wants, I have 1.84 now so no worries.
I've supported this community for a long time and just want to protect it from things that can get us a bad reputation.

thuddome said:
Your example doesn't compare, you are talking an actual phone versus a patch to some software. With physical property, possession is important, with intellectual property it's not. You can't say, just because I have software on my computer that it belongs to me. Whereas you can say, this phone is in my possession, therefore it belongs to me. So just because I have a copy of some software (i.e. RUU) doesn't make it my possession and definitely doesn't mean I can sell it. And going under the "donation" speak doesn't hold water either. Nuff said, he can do what he wants, I have 1.84 now so no worries.
I've supported this community for a long time and just want to protect it from things that can get us a bad reputation.
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I doubt you have the RUU, if you did you would do what you claim is so virtuous and SHARE it with the community. If not you are worse than the user you are complaining about. I have the update zip too, it's widely available, but if you want the RUU, stop your whining and just pay for it! You aren't going to change his mind complaining about him. Let it go

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Seems to be pretty clear that you are just *****ing and morning and no you don't have the RUU, if you did you would do what you claim is so virtuous and SHARE it with the community, but you haven't, and you won't. I have the update zip too, so congrats, but if you want the RU, stop your whining and just pay for it! You aren't going to change his mind complaining about him. Let it go
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Thanks dad...

thuddome said:
Thanks dad...
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Most welcome, son.

Zolor23 said:
Looking for 1.84.
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I just loaded Axiom's Rom which is 1.84, working good so far. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709379

well u will be glad that Football has uploaded the 1.84 ruu for tmobile. i am downloading it now. but its gonna take 3 hours which sucks since i dont have an account with filefactory.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/cf061f69b5bf7878/
Edit: i finally got the 1.84 ruu after 3 hours lol.

s10shane said:
well u will be glad that Football has uploaded the 1.84 ruu for tmobile. i am downloading it now. but its gonna take 3 hours which sucks since i dont have an account with filefactory.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/cf061f69b5bf7878/
Edit: i finally got the 1.84 ruu after 3 hours lol.
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well thats good, but errr failfactory...never seem to have slots for free users...lol

Comment I left for HTC regarding the boot loader

The Evita has been available for nearly 3 months now. Is AT&T going to allow sanctioned bootloader unlocking? Was there any indication that after a period of time, the phone would be unlock able via HTC Dev? I'm considering selling my One X and never buying an At&T subsidized phone again, You are trying to come across as development friendly, but alas your flagship device sold in the United States is not unlock able.
Please advise without a canned response about carrier restrictions. I know all about that answer, I'd like a straight yes or no on this question please.
Lets see what I get in response

knowing the good folks at HTC you'll get the carrier crap...
heres to hoping tho

here's an idea, which is always fun. play the carrier against the manufacturer.
when they say its the carrier, go to the carrier and ask them, when each other blames it on each other, show them that's what going on. they hate.

Back when the phone launched I,along with a few other people filed complaints against AT&T with the BBB they went nowhere.

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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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gunnyman said:
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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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Oh I did
I can per persistent as hell.
I just hate the thought of this awesome phone's dev community getting screwed without the benefit of even a reach around.
I'm in a very pissy mood today.

They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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I will say thanks for taking the plunge first ....I know I'm better off because of it ....
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mounttimp said:
They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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The a$$holes quit responding to me as well... I feel you gunny. I'm a lil worried about all this WP added everywhere .. they are sealing all our holes..
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SkizzMcNizz said:
So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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That is the truth. It's AT&T's fault. Start emailing them.
When I first got my phone and they gave me the generic customer satisfaction text I left negative feedback. If you leave below a certain score they will ask you why you wouldn't recommend the phone. I mentioned the bootloader and bloatware, as well as lack of Wallet support.

Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.

ComposMentis said:
Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.
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There may be more of us than you think. AT&T is about to give up on the added tethering plans for certain users. The new shared data family plans include tethering. You just pick your data cap and go.
Even though I've got grandfathered unlimited data, I may go for this when it's available. Adding up data totals for the three smartphones I'm paying for, we'll still save some money and get "free" tethering.

I feel the exact same way Gunny. My Nexus One was my first smart phone, and obviously, my first HTC. I had such a good experience, I went straight back to HTC for my next phone (this one) but it's clear now that the Nexus One was an anomaly in HTC's history. I'm thinking its going to be Nexus or Samsung devices only for me from now on. Not sure how much longer I can hold out with this device. If the damn camera wasn't so awesome I would have sold it months ago. =(
Billy

HTC can't do anything, it's not their fault. You should be contacting AT&T, not HTC.

im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?

blessedswine said:
im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?
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I have no idea. Either way it does affect yor warranty, so I'm not sure why others dont use the CID mod to unlock.

We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update

gunnyman said:
We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update
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The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.

SkizzMcNizz said:
The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.
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Exactly