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i may sound stupid but i was wondering...
i am using T-Mobiles 2.26 Rom and tmobile has horrible reception @ my work and house i was justing wondering i flash my phone with a cingular rom and than to flash to any other rom like XDA M63 will i have any better reception??? and if so does anyone know where i can download the latest and best cingular rom??
You can find the latest OFFICIAL Cingular ROM on HTC's website. However, you will need to unlock your phone (if it isn't already) in order to flash another Carrier's ROM.
You might just want to try some different radios on the phone and check your reception before flashing a whole different ROM, though. Those can be found in the ftp section.
but in theory would it work?? i dnt want to have to flash me fone for no reason.. u know?? would i be able to use my tmobile service with cingular reception??
smileyaj2005 said:
but in theory would it work?? i dnt want to have to flash me fone for no reason.. u know?? would i be able to use my tmobile service with cingular reception??
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I believe what you WANT to be asking is can I flash a cingular RADIO only rom so I can get better reception while using my tmobile rom or XM6R3...the answer is yes..radio rom's are not provider dependent.
I don't think you'd want to run an actual cingular rom on your phone and then use it with tmobile...I suppose you could but you'd have to manually configure your gprs...mms etc.
mfrazzz explains the flashing process in his first post pretty well for XM6r3 but to recap. Flash Tmobile 2.26...flash whatever radio only rom you want..then flash XM6R3.
famewolf said:
mfrazzz explains the flashing process in his first post pretty well for XM6r3 but to recap. Flash Tmobile 2.26...flash whatever radio only rom you want..then flash XM6R3.
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Just to clarify, you can flash the Radio after you have installed a custom rom like XM6r3 (you don't have to do it in that exact order). I've changed radios numerous times without reflashing the entire rom with no problems (as long as its a radio only rom).
just one more thing.. where can i find cingular radio only roms?? and is there anywhere i can look to see the differnece??
smileyaj2005 said:
just one more thing.. where can i find cingular radio only roms?? and is there anywhere i can look to see the differnece??
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You can find several radio only rom's in mfrazzz's first post (notice how I keep pointing you back to that OVER and OVER?)...you can do a search on XDA to find the difference's in the various rom's but most of the results will be suibjective depending on carrier (tmobile, cingular) and location..your best bet is to try them and see which one works best in your particular situation.
hey, i got a question, where i work i get no reception but a friend with tmobile has full reception, he has a wing on wm6 and i have a hermes. is there anyway to get into the tmobile reception while im at work? like a progrtam?
Why don't you go and ask him what radio rom he's using.
It should show up in the 'device information' area of your settings folder.
takashikastl said:
hey, i got a question, where i work i get no reception but a friend with tmobile has full reception, he has a wing on wm6 and i have a hermes. is there anyway to get into the tmobile reception while im at work? like a progrtam?
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Lets not forget that tower location for each carrier will play a big part in how good your signal is. Where you work there may be a T-Mo tower fairly close by giving your friend a great signal but on the edge of the coverage area for your carrier which is why you have no reception. You can change radio roms all day long and maybe see a little improvement, but it won't put you onto the T-Mo network (unless you can configure your phone to roam on the T-Mo network). I've got the reverse situation where I work; T-Mo gets no signal but US Cellular and Verizon both get decent strength.
I'm using the default 25.32 radio that came with my FUZE and my reception inside my condo is worse then it was with my Tilt. I'm wondering if there are any other radios that may be better (that are worth testing) on AT&T's US network.
I've seen a few radio threads but they seem to deal mostly with networks outside of the US which isn't very helpful. The radio needs to support 3G, GPS, and AT&T based roms like NATF's ROM.
Are there any radios other then the stock radio that may be better for reception (and heck... even battery life)?
Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439566
All of the radios will work with AT&T, but every radio is different depending on carrier an location. Even though I have AT&T, the radio that works best where I live may not be the best for you.
If you're security unlocked (or don't mind paying the $20 to get unlocked), then you can try any of the Diamond radios or the Blackstone radio in that thread.
I've tried about 5 different radios from that thread and so far the Blackstone radio seems to have the best signal for me and the clearest calls. It gives me about 1 bar more than any other radio I've tried.
I was having connect issues, along with others. I switched to the Diamond Radio 1.09.25.23. I have a better reception and also switched to NATF's 2.1
Sorry for the newby post: checked your link first, but still asking:
Are these ROMs that replace the F/W on the "cell-phone radio" transmitter/receiver, or have something to do with the FM Tuner (FM Radio)? I assume it's the former, and if so, what's the advantage to trying the F/Ws of different carriers?
oh, and is there anyway to get around teh $20 unlock fee?
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Sorry for the newby post: checked your link first, but still asking:
Are these ROMs that replace the F/W on the "cell-phone radio" transmitter/receiver, or have something to do with the FM Tuner (FM Radio)? I assume it's the former, and if so, what's the advantage to trying the F/Ws of different carriers?
oh, and is there anyway to get around teh $20 unlock fee?
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These ROMs replace the radio firmware for cell signal, wifi, bt, gps, etc, not anything with the FM tuner.
The advantage is that different radios have different settings and some work better than others for certain people. While the AT&T .32 radio was ok with me, I find the Blackstone radio better.
For the unlock fee, there's no way around it, but you don't need to be security unlocked if you use one of the HTC Raphael radios. If you want to try a Diamond or Blackstone radio, then you need to be security unlocked.
So you could try all of the Raphael radios and see which one of those works better for you.
Thread closed per XDA Bylaw 8675309.
Please head over to the Raphael Radio thread to continue this discussion.
Story: we all have HTC's at work. My service manager with the Touch Diamond (Verizon) is running a radio to use Sprint cell towers in our area (which outnumbers all others). I was wondering if that was possible for the G1. He's running WM 6.5 and Android on it.
No,there is not one for the g1...yet. But even if there was...i think it would require extra hardware
i was thinking to flash the radio he used the same way i did when i updated to the rc33 radio. i believe he has the latest radios for att, verizon, and sprint. that's why I decided to ask just in case.
thanks
Hey, if you have hardspl installed,and the rc29 DREAIMG.NBH on your sdcard,you can give it a shot and see and give us results(i need sprint even tho i have tmobile,only 3g in area is spring)
I'll give it a try on Tuesday. That was my main purpose in inquiring. Seeming as to how Sprint had like more cell towers than all others combined. And he's been using it with much satisfaction.
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Hey, if you have hardspl installed,and the rc29 DREAIMG.NBH on your sdcard,you can give it a shot and see and give us results(i need sprint even tho i have tmobile,only 3g in area is spring)
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in this works i might have a heart attack, i really would love to get on the att towers for 3G
Sprint & Verizon use CDMA, T-Mobile & AT&T use GSM.
This, unfortunately, is not possible.
i just put a radio that was used for the Kaiser onto my dream and immediately i noticed a difference in the camera speed. almost as soon as i pressed the camera button it took the picture. i used radio 1.71.09.01 all you need to do is extract the .zip from the download, and open the .nbh in a hex editor. then i saved it as radio.img and placed it in the update.zip that contains the latest radio for the g1. then i resigned it and flashed it and voila i have a new faster radio on my phone. over the next few days i will run some speed tests on the local edge network and different radios to see which one works best in the stl area. but i am freaking excited to see that i tried something and it worked.
When I get to work I'll ask if he tried the ATT radio yet.
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Sprint & Verizon use CDMA, T-Mobile & AT&T use GSM.
This, unfortunately, is not possible.
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i just put a radio that was used for the Kaiser onto my dream and immediately i noticed a difference in the camera speed. almost as soon as i pressed the camera button it took the picture. i used radio 1.71.09.01 all you need to do is extract the .zip from the download, and open the .nbh in a hex editor. then i saved it as radio.img and placed it in the update.zip that contains the latest radio for the g1. then i resigned it and flashed it and voila i have a new faster radio on my phone. over the next few days i will run some speed tests on the local edge network and different radios to see which one works best in the stl area. but i am freaking excited to see that i tried something and it worked.
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Mind sharing the update.zip? i have edge and 3g towers in my area and would be glad to test.
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Mind sharing the update.zip? i have edge and 3g towers in my area and would be glad to test.
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unfortunately we can't get 3G from at&t as they run 3g on the 850 & 1900 mhz range, and the G1 only gets edge in that range. the G1 is set to recieve hsdpa(3G) in the 1700 and 2100 range. kinda sucks but if at&t rolls out into the 1700(download) and 2100(upload) then we can steal 3G since t-mo has failed me in getting 3G into my area.
on a side note anybody have an updated roll out schedule for 3G in 2009 for t-mo?
apparently since i am using my phone as a tether right now i can't upload my update.zip. but following the steps above should work. or PM me your email and i should be able to send it to you that way
go to Kaiser ROM development and search for "ultimate radio thread" and you will find a list of all the radios that work on the kaiser, each of them are mirrored to an external site, and you can download from there
just installed the radio you sent me,internet on edge and gprs is faster,but drains battery quicker.... But now i have another reason to get a extra battery!
I'm not testing the battery life of the phone each time, just speed testing right after flash and taking a pic to test the lag on that. Those that wanna try new radios be warned I can't tell you what radio will work best for you, I can only tell you what works for me. All problems that you come across after flashing are your faukt. I do not want 100 PMs from people asking how to fix it just cause I tried it
would one be able to extract the radio from the iphone 3g if one had the latest firmware? i have much time, and don't mind give it a try. battery life isn't a problem. have a 1600mAH for lounge nights and the 2600 for wtf (work time fun!)
if you wanted to try it it couldn't hurt to see, we aren't going to get 3G unless we have t-mo 3G in the area. but i am curious to know what the radio from the iphone would do on this phone. try it oud and look for speed test in the market and use that to test the download and upload speed. it's what i have been using, and that way we get one program doing all the tests for us and so we should all have the same margin of error
I took a look at the iphone firmare, looks like you need a Mac. Most of the files that look like ones to use are in .dmg format, here's the link to the newest firmware http://www.iphonefirmware.com/firmwares-download/ to extract the files, just download the file, and change the extension to .zip
CDMA is much different as it uses a PRL, or Preferred Roaming List to decide what towers to connect to based on roaming agreements that carriers make. I remember when I was with Verizon, you could dial *226 SEND and it would connect you to a system that would download the latest PRL to your device. Sometimes it would result in better service, other times not. The equivalent to a PRL in GSM is stored in what I believe is a write-protected area of the SIM Card.
Sadley I have to agree with you Datruesurfer, but if I may the code for vzw, I worked there till Jan of this yr, is *228. Unfortunately you have read correctly, I did some research on this a while back when I bought my sim reader. All the info for the towers are stored on the sim for GSM/3G as some like to use, although part of the info is stored in the phone as part of the firmware, this I figured out, because I see 2 not one AT&T in my net ops at all times, and my sim is a brand new 3G compatible sim. The reason for this is one of them is for Edge/GPRS, and the Other has 3G also incorporated. Unfortunately as of the moment I can only connect to the one that is Edge/GPRS.
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I took a look at the iphone firmare, looks like you need a Mac. Most of the files that look like ones to use are in .dmg format, here's the link to the newest firmware http://www.iphonefirmware.com/firmwares-download/ to extract the files, just download the file, and change the extension to .zip
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if i go out tomorrow i will get better internet(only option at home is to use my phone as a tether), and i will download and convert the .dmg to a .iso and have a look see. to be honest i don't know what to look for but i certainly wanna look around. this is the most work i have ever done with a phone. when i had my kaiser everyone else seemed to know a whole lot more than me and i felt left out and i never could help anyone, here in the dream forums i feel like i accomplish something every day
Well, I'm going to a 3g area today with the krazer radio...will report back results.
Before(from memory): download was about the same as edge...upload....well...you cant test that on a g1.
After: 149kb/s download
Edit: i also have a new sim card that customer care says its "made for 3g"...I guess we will see.
Hello guys, I just bought a Fuze on ebay, locked to AT&T of course. But I have T-Mobile. I have already payed the person who will unlock it for me. But if I then install a new ROM will it still work with T-Mo? and what is a Radio? I saw it has been mentioned here quite often.
Sorry for being a noob
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Hello guys, I just bought a Fuze on ebay, locked to AT&T of course. But I have T-Mobile. I have already payed the person who will unlock it for me. But if I then install a new ROM will it still work with T-Mo? and what is a Radio? I saw it has been mentioned here quite often.
Sorry for being a noob
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go there :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
about Radio most roms comes with one installed already i suggest to get use to flashing new roms and from there you will understand more about Radio.Good luck.
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Yes U can I flash several times a week using a T-mobile USA phone plan and so far Radio wise I get the best performance from 1.12.25.19. The latest one isn't bad either it depends where you live and some other stuff I can't really explain. I stay in Houston area incase that helps. Radio as to do with how your phone handles signal like gps etc. I suggest you read allot of threads to understand more things, be confident with what your doing before you flash
Hi Ali
As suggested by gguy- the radio is the part of the phone that communicates with the mobile phone network (and gps satelites). It is not a direct reference to the FM radio function.
Try to find a new radio based upon recommendations from others on the same carrier as you.
The quality of signal strength varies from one radio to another, what suits me might not suit you. It is worth noting that the radio will also have an impact on battery life as a weak signal will drain the battery faster.
On a locked phone you will only be able to use rapheal radios, if you unlock your phone you will be free to use the radios from some other phones.
Updating the radio leaves the rom as is and thus will not delete your files.
OKAY so I decided to update this thread:
There are two versions of the One X. One with aws bands and one without. I have a device without AWS (I am about 80 % sure). There are reports of people getting 4g on AWS with the Rogers Version as of now, and more testers need to check it out as it could still be possible on ATT.
This flash here theoretically could enable the One X radio to lach onto AWS (The radios here are for the One S Ville.)
http://ville.giev.de/?page_id=42
I have flashed all three, and although I did not get 4g, I got faster ping and a near immediate connection onto T-mobile. To all the people saying this will "brick" the phone, it does not and you have nothing to worry. But as always make sure to do a backup. The radio hacks for the Skyrocket/Note were also based on flashing the Galaxy S2 radio directly on top. This should work the same.
I'm interested in this as well. What does is involved and the risk? I don't have warranty on my phone, so I'm a little bit leery in being first.
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I'm interested in this as well. What does is involved and the risk? I don't have warranty on my phone, so I'm a little bit leery in being first.
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if your rooted ull should be fine just make a back up of ur current set up. this is just a clockwork flash, it may not even flash, but if it does then there's a high chance of 4g.
i've done radio hacks before for the droid 3/skyrocket/note all from a similar concept. ex. flashing the t-mobile galaxy s2 radio on the note, to enable 4g.
if anyone could provide me with a better solution for an unlock i am sure i can get this to work. seems that the htc unlocker server is down right now
it's the same thing as flashing different radios via clockwork posted in the One X android dev forum
I'll give it a try, hopefully it won't mess anything up. So I just flash the radio in recovery. If no good, I just flash the correct radio again?
There is a one click no HTC Dev bootloader unlock in the Dev forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734558
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I flashed:
Radio from RUU_Ville_U_HTC_Europe_1.78.401.2 [Recommended] (update by rhcp)
0.16.31501S.17_2_10.23.31501S.10L
From your link. It flashed correctly. The phone on data and voice still works. I confirmed the version in Settings is not my original:
0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08L
I'm still on Edge, but I'm in a crappy cell area, so still not certain if radio or my area. I might give the:
Radio from Stock T-Mobile US (update by rhcp)
0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L
Radio a try too.
good to hear no negative results got my phone unlocked so i will be testing tonight. also do u guys have the newer sims or older ones?
I have an older sim I believe. It is one that came from an activation kit I bought off ebay. I tried the T-Mobile radio and same results, still on Edge, but still could be my location.
What in gods name are you guys doing! ? Are you trying to brick your phones? It's already been confirmed that the hardware on this phone does not support the proper bands for T-Mobile 3g!
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What in gods name are you guys doing! ? Are you trying to brick your phones? It's already been confirmed that the hardware on this phone does not support the proper bands for T-Mobile 3g!
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Prove it. Why would the phone soc be any different than the one s one.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
ECEXCURSION said:
Prove it. Why would the phone soc be any different than the one s one.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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It's not just the SOC that determines hardware compatibility. There are various radio amplifiers and filters which are tuned to the specific frequencies that the phone is likely to encounter. If a phone is going to be sold in multiple markets, sometimes the hardware filters are set up for all frequencies and some are disabled via software, but often times this is not the case.
It's not impossible that a radio reflash can make it work, though highly improbable.
sassafras
Interested in this. There might be better luck flashing the tmo radio since I don't think any European operators use AWS bands, correct me if I'm wrong.
Can anyone explain why flashing this radio from a different device won't brick our phones?
tspx23 said:
good to hear no negative results got my phone unlocked so i will be testing tonight. also do u guys have the newer sims or older ones?
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I have a tmobile one s, but i also have the one from att and i am so interested on using this phone over tmobile 4g let me know if i can of help. I am using my micro sim that came with the one s and i am getting edge (asume its the latest from tmobbile 4g mucro sim. I am on 1.85 rooted but i did not unlock. though i am sure we can flash through CWM. any ways i am sure there is a way out to get 3g or 4g on the one x on tmobile did not find the way yet.
flashed both of the t-mobile modems no luck for me either, although my ping is significantly higher and connects to t-mobile a LOT quicker.
does anyone know how to edit the LTE settings. it is odd but for most ATT LTE phones they have the 1700mhz frequency i think it would be a matter of just defaulting that....
the radios also show up in my baseband so i have successful flashes
EDIT: one more thing, before i was not able to use data at all considering i had the newer t-mobile sims but now data works but on edge speed.
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Interested in this. There might be better luck flashing the tmo radio since I don't think any European operators use AWS bands, correct me if I'm wrong.
Can anyone explain why flashing this radio from a different device won't brick our phones?
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it's just a file in your system. it could potentially brick your phone but you can always get into recovery and restore. which is why i stated you should create a back up of your device before trying it out.
however, i was fairly certain it wouldn't do that because the internals of the One S/One X are nearly identical, they both share the same processor and most likely similar (if not same, radios).
either way, the the radios work, getting me higher ping, and working data without having to switch out my sim for an older one, hope there is a way to activate the 1700 band !
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_at&t-4614.php
EDIT 2: apparently there are two models of the ATT One X/XL one with the 1700 band and one without
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flashed both of the t-mobile modems no luck for me either, although my ping is significantly higher and connects to t-mobile a LOT quicker.
does anyone know how to edit the LTE settings. it is odd but for most ATT LTE phones they have the 1700mhz frequency i think it would be a matter of just defaulting that....
the radios also show up in my baseband so i have successful flashes
EDIT: one more thing, before i was not able to use data at all considering i had the newer t-mobile sims but now data works but on edge speed.
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Likely the software has been changed to support T-Mobile, but the hardware (filters, amplifiers, etc) are non-existent, so you'll never get actual 1700 MHz AWS support.
Of course, this is just a 50,000 foot view perspective without actually trying it myself.
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Likely the software has been changed to support T-Mobile, but the hardware (filters, amplifiers, etc) are non-existent, so you'll never get actual 1700 MHz AWS support.
Of course, this is just a 50,000 foot view perspective without actually trying it myself.
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you might be right about this one but there are certain One X/XL's that do have the 1700 band found out through some searching and trying to figure out the reason behind it.
If that's correct.... the people with the 1700 band would have 4g when they flash this radio! also use *#*#4636#*#* to change network type to lte/gsm
--- for other phones though like the Skyrocket/Note they were directly compatible with T-mobile radios.
Okay, I flashed the Tmo One S radio and did not receive a brick. What I did receive is a not-so-good connection that will switch between HSPA+ and 3G quite often.
I don't have a WIND sim to test with, but I tried running AT commands on my phone and they don't seem to be working. I tried doing a network scan with AT+COPS=? waited forever and had nothing displayed.
Strange...
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Rebooted and ran the commands again. Still don't see any AWS carriers.
uid=0 [email protected]:/ # +COPS: (1,"CAN Rogers Wireless Inc.","ROGERS","302720",7
),(2,"ROGERS","","302720",2),(1,"CAN Rogers Wireless Inc.","ROGERS","302720",0),
(1,"","","302220",2),(1,"","","302610",2),(1,"","","302610",7),(1,"","","302220"
,7),,(0,1,2,3,4),(0,1,2)
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Okay, I flashed the Tmo One S radio and did not receive a brick. What I did receive is a not-so-good connection that will switch between HSPA+ and 3G quite often.
I don't have a WIND sim to test with, but I tried running AT commands on my phone and they don't seem to be working. I tried doing a network scan with AT+COPS=? waited forever and had nothing displayed.
Strange...
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Rebooted and ran the commands again. Still don't see any AWS carriers.
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Don't you need a wind sim to connect im pretty sure the Canadian version will work on aws
Confirmed on my end that even with the T-Mobile radio, I'm not getting HSPA+. Even when I drove by the Moscone center where 1900Mhz was refarmed during Apple's WWDC (maybe it was just that day?). I was hoping this would be like the Note and Rocket where I can flash different radios.
Any other new phone capable of this? The S III? If not, I may have to either wait for 1900MHz refarm or switch to Straight Talk.
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Confirmed on my end that even with the T-Mobile radio, I'm not getting HSPA+. Even when I drove by the Moscone center where 1900Mhz was refarmed during Apple's WWDC (maybe it was just that day?). I was hoping this would be like the Note and Rocket where I can flash different radios.
Any other new phone capable of this? The S III? If not, I may have to either wait for 1900MHz refarm or switch to Straight Talk.
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Picking up an att s3 today to test it out. Most likely there's two versions of one x one with aws and one without. I know mine doesn't though.
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Don't you need a wind sim to connect im pretty sure the Canadian version will work on aws
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I'm not exactly sure of this one.
If someone is willing to let me cut up their WIND sim (or lend me their WIND microsim), I'll re-flash the tmo radio and meet you somewhere to test it (Toronto, please).
~dan
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Just popped in an old WIND sim that I used to test AWS connectivity at first. Saw WIND Away with the standard radio, and after flashing the Tmo radio I see WIND Away and AT&T (AT+COPS=? shows Rogers, ATT, Telus, Bell).
I live by the lake, that would explain why ATT shows up.
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Check this out http://imgur.com/Nb984,rUvM6. Not using the One S radio...