T-Mobile Rom or Cingular Rom?? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development

i may sound stupid but i was wondering...
i am using T-Mobiles 2.26 Rom and tmobile has horrible reception @ my work and house i was justing wondering i flash my phone with a cingular rom and than to flash to any other rom like XDA M63 will i have any better reception??? and if so does anyone know where i can download the latest and best cingular rom??

You can find the latest OFFICIAL Cingular ROM on HTC's website. However, you will need to unlock your phone (if it isn't already) in order to flash another Carrier's ROM.
You might just want to try some different radios on the phone and check your reception before flashing a whole different ROM, though. Those can be found in the ftp section.

but in theory would it work?? i dnt want to have to flash me fone for no reason.. u know?? would i be able to use my tmobile service with cingular reception??

smileyaj2005 said:
but in theory would it work?? i dnt want to have to flash me fone for no reason.. u know?? would i be able to use my tmobile service with cingular reception??
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I believe what you WANT to be asking is can I flash a cingular RADIO only rom so I can get better reception while using my tmobile rom or XM6R3...the answer is yes..radio rom's are not provider dependent.
I don't think you'd want to run an actual cingular rom on your phone and then use it with tmobile...I suppose you could but you'd have to manually configure your gprs...mms etc.
mfrazzz explains the flashing process in his first post pretty well for XM6r3 but to recap. Flash Tmobile 2.26...flash whatever radio only rom you want..then flash XM6R3.

famewolf said:
mfrazzz explains the flashing process in his first post pretty well for XM6r3 but to recap. Flash Tmobile 2.26...flash whatever radio only rom you want..then flash XM6R3.
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Just to clarify, you can flash the Radio after you have installed a custom rom like XM6r3 (you don't have to do it in that exact order). I've changed radios numerous times without reflashing the entire rom with no problems (as long as its a radio only rom).

just one more thing.. where can i find cingular radio only roms?? and is there anywhere i can look to see the differnece??

smileyaj2005 said:
just one more thing.. where can i find cingular radio only roms?? and is there anywhere i can look to see the differnece??
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You can find several radio only rom's in mfrazzz's first post (notice how I keep pointing you back to that OVER and OVER?)...you can do a search on XDA to find the difference's in the various rom's but most of the results will be suibjective depending on carrier (tmobile, cingular) and location..your best bet is to try them and see which one works best in your particular situation.

hey, i got a question, where i work i get no reception but a friend with tmobile has full reception, he has a wing on wm6 and i have a hermes. is there anyway to get into the tmobile reception while im at work? like a progrtam?

Why don't you go and ask him what radio rom he's using.
It should show up in the 'device information' area of your settings folder.

takashikastl said:
hey, i got a question, where i work i get no reception but a friend with tmobile has full reception, he has a wing on wm6 and i have a hermes. is there anyway to get into the tmobile reception while im at work? like a progrtam?
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Lets not forget that tower location for each carrier will play a big part in how good your signal is. Where you work there may be a T-Mo tower fairly close by giving your friend a great signal but on the edge of the coverage area for your carrier which is why you have no reception. You can change radio roms all day long and maybe see a little improvement, but it won't put you onto the T-Mo network (unless you can configure your phone to roam on the T-Mo network). I've got the reverse situation where I work; T-Mo gets no signal but US Cellular and Verizon both get decent strength.

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Best radio rom for T-Mobile USA

What is the best radio rom to T-mobile USA which will eliminate missed and dropped calls and provide better call reception?
2.26.11 T-mbile radio rom
02.19.11 UK w/XDA Cingular WM6 Radio Fix2.cab
Additionally, can you flash either rom after installing TNT 5.0 Touchflo outright?
Can somebody post the roms for each radio listed above on this thread?
Thanks.....
I use 2.69.11. You can flash it after TNT5.0 as the flash only modifies the radio rom.
The installer is on the xda FTP site under /Wizard/Radio_Roms/ as "faria 02.69.11.rar"
radio rom question
technobluff--
You will probably need to experiment to see which radio will offer you the best reception, no-missed-calls, etc.
Yes, you can flash the radio rom of your choice after flashing your PPC with whatever flavor of WM6.
Mfrazzz has all of the radio roms that you asked for here in post #2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324632
2.26 should be best
reynavictor said:
technobluff--
You will probably need to experiment to see which radio will offer you the best reception, no-missed-calls, etc.
Yes, you can flash the radio rom of your choice after flashing your PPC with whatever flavor of WM6.
Mfrazzz has all of the radio roms that you asked for here in post #2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324632
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Is the Cingular 2.25.11 radio in the above post the same as the US T-Mo 2.25.11? I want to try at that 2.69 radio but want to make sure I can easily get back to my T-Mo 2.25.11 if start having problems with it.
I Did Try 2.69 But It Eating Your Battery Very Fast , 2.6.11 The Best For What I Seen , Been Using It For 6 Months
Anybody has the link to the 2.26 radio rom for tmobile?
cgigate said:
2.26 should be best
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I would think so too???
Why use the UK 2.19?
so we run the flash for radio, and then the radio fix?
Or other way around.
technobuff said:
Anybody has the link to the 2.26 radio rom for tmobile?
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it is still on T-mobile web site
OCGuy said:
I use 2.69.11. You can flash it after TNT5.0 as the flash only modifies the radio rom.
The installer is on the xda FTP site under /Wizard/Radio_Roms/ as "faria 02.69.11.rar"
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Not a bad radio but I experience missed calls and there are no notifications at all letting you know there were calls or messages or voicemail at all.
I reccomend T-Mobile 2.19.11 UK Radio with cingular radio fix 2 patch.
tmobile site
Thats for the entire rom. I was also looking for just the radio rom portion
Anybody running the 2.61 radio rom for Tmobile? What is your experience on missed calls and reception?
technobuff said:
Anybody has the link to the 2.26 radio rom for tmobile?
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I'm tellin you, you want to use the 2.19.11 UK radio plus the cingular radio fix2. I have tried every radio mentioned in this thread in the pursuit of resolution to the missed call and bad reception problems and finally found it with the 2.19.11 radio.
I have attached the radio and the patch.
You should give it a try.(IMHO)
Instructions:
create new folder and extract both zips to that folder
Run RUU and phone will reboot itself
You now have 2.19.11 UK Radio
Now copy the attached cab to your device and install the cab.
Soft reset and youre good to go.
thank you for the straight up install answer.
I went ahead and did it.
I am soft resetting as we speak
how can I confirm that it worked?
Thnx!!
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settings
system
device information
radio version, 02.19.11
Thanks, Dharvery4561
I am flashing it right now and will report back with results.
FiReBReTHa said:
thank you for the straight up install answer.
I went ahead and did it.
I am soft resetting as we speak
how can I confirm that it worked?
Thnx!!
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settings
system
device information
radio version, 02.19.11
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You will just notice a considerable spike in your reception where you already had decent reception and also places where you had no service before, you see that you have enough of a signal to make a phone call or send a text.
For example, when I am at home, I always have reception with the original radio, but with the 2.19.11 radio I have full signal in my basement.
When I would go to my girlfriend's friends house out in the middle of nowhere, I had no signal at all with any other radio, but with the 2.19.11 radio, I have 2 bars and can still call and text freely. It's funny because my girlfriend who also has t-mobile has no signal at all on her razr out there... lol
dharvey4651 said:
You will just notice a considerable spike in your reception where you already had decent reception and also places where you had no service before, you see that you have enough of a signal to make a phone call or send a text.
For example, when I am at home, I always have reception with the original radio, but with the 2.19.11 radio I have full signal in my basement.
When I would go to my girlfriend's friends house out in the middle of nowhere, I had no signal at all with any other radio, but with the 2.19.11 radio, I have 2 bars and can still call and text freely. It's funny because my girlfriend who also has t-mobile has no signal at all on her razr out there... lol
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holy crackpot!
I read your thread.... my eyes went wide and my brain goes, "nooo...."
(grabs phone)
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instead of 0-1 bars (under central beam in house)
I am at three bars. wow man... I cant wait to see how things go tomorrow!
FiReBReTHa said:
holy crackpot!
I read your thread.... my eyes went wide and my brain goes, "nooo...."
(grabs phone)
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instead of 0-1 bars (under central beam in house)
I am at three bars. wow man... I cant wait to see how things go tomorrow!
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no problem. ive been using this radio for months and wouldnt trade it for anything.
nevermind please disregard this post. it was an accidental double post.
so i've been out of the wizard game for a little over a year. I'm using the t-mobile usa mda and have really bad service and would like to try this. so if someone can help me out i would really appreciate it. i take it i have to first upgrade to wm6 for this to work? yes?

another radio question

Story: we all have HTC's at work. My service manager with the Touch Diamond (Verizon) is running a radio to use Sprint cell towers in our area (which outnumbers all others). I was wondering if that was possible for the G1. He's running WM 6.5 and Android on it.
No,there is not one for the g1...yet. But even if there was...i think it would require extra hardware
i was thinking to flash the radio he used the same way i did when i updated to the rc33 radio. i believe he has the latest radios for att, verizon, and sprint. that's why I decided to ask just in case.
thanks
Hey, if you have hardspl installed,and the rc29 DREAIMG.NBH on your sdcard,you can give it a shot and see and give us results(i need sprint even tho i have tmobile,only 3g in area is spring)
I'll give it a try on Tuesday. That was my main purpose in inquiring. Seeming as to how Sprint had like more cell towers than all others combined. And he's been using it with much satisfaction.
otto888 said:
Hey, if you have hardspl installed,and the rc29 DREAIMG.NBH on your sdcard,you can give it a shot and see and give us results(i need sprint even tho i have tmobile,only 3g in area is spring)
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in this works i might have a heart attack, i really would love to get on the att towers for 3G
Sprint & Verizon use CDMA, T-Mobile & AT&T use GSM.
This, unfortunately, is not possible.
i just put a radio that was used for the Kaiser onto my dream and immediately i noticed a difference in the camera speed. almost as soon as i pressed the camera button it took the picture. i used radio 1.71.09.01 all you need to do is extract the .zip from the download, and open the .nbh in a hex editor. then i saved it as radio.img and placed it in the update.zip that contains the latest radio for the g1. then i resigned it and flashed it and voila i have a new faster radio on my phone. over the next few days i will run some speed tests on the local edge network and different radios to see which one works best in the stl area. but i am freaking excited to see that i tried something and it worked.
When I get to work I'll ask if he tried the ATT radio yet.
Manacit said:
Sprint & Verizon use CDMA, T-Mobile & AT&T use GSM.
This, unfortunately, is not possible.
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tubaking182 said:
i just put a radio that was used for the Kaiser onto my dream and immediately i noticed a difference in the camera speed. almost as soon as i pressed the camera button it took the picture. i used radio 1.71.09.01 all you need to do is extract the .zip from the download, and open the .nbh in a hex editor. then i saved it as radio.img and placed it in the update.zip that contains the latest radio for the g1. then i resigned it and flashed it and voila i have a new faster radio on my phone. over the next few days i will run some speed tests on the local edge network and different radios to see which one works best in the stl area. but i am freaking excited to see that i tried something and it worked.
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Mind sharing the update.zip? i have edge and 3g towers in my area and would be glad to test.
otto888 said:
Mind sharing the update.zip? i have edge and 3g towers in my area and would be glad to test.
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unfortunately we can't get 3G from at&t as they run 3g on the 850 & 1900 mhz range, and the G1 only gets edge in that range. the G1 is set to recieve hsdpa(3G) in the 1700 and 2100 range. kinda sucks but if at&t rolls out into the 1700(download) and 2100(upload) then we can steal 3G since t-mo has failed me in getting 3G into my area.
on a side note anybody have an updated roll out schedule for 3G in 2009 for t-mo?
apparently since i am using my phone as a tether right now i can't upload my update.zip. but following the steps above should work. or PM me your email and i should be able to send it to you that way
go to Kaiser ROM development and search for "ultimate radio thread" and you will find a list of all the radios that work on the kaiser, each of them are mirrored to an external site, and you can download from there
just installed the radio you sent me,internet on edge and gprs is faster,but drains battery quicker.... But now i have another reason to get a extra battery!
I'm not testing the battery life of the phone each time, just speed testing right after flash and taking a pic to test the lag on that. Those that wanna try new radios be warned I can't tell you what radio will work best for you, I can only tell you what works for me. All problems that you come across after flashing are your faukt. I do not want 100 PMs from people asking how to fix it just cause I tried it
would one be able to extract the radio from the iphone 3g if one had the latest firmware? i have much time, and don't mind give it a try. battery life isn't a problem. have a 1600mAH for lounge nights and the 2600 for wtf (work time fun!)
if you wanted to try it it couldn't hurt to see, we aren't going to get 3G unless we have t-mo 3G in the area. but i am curious to know what the radio from the iphone would do on this phone. try it oud and look for speed test in the market and use that to test the download and upload speed. it's what i have been using, and that way we get one program doing all the tests for us and so we should all have the same margin of error
I took a look at the iphone firmare, looks like you need a Mac. Most of the files that look like ones to use are in .dmg format, here's the link to the newest firmware http://www.iphonefirmware.com/firmwares-download/ to extract the files, just download the file, and change the extension to .zip
CDMA is much different as it uses a PRL, or Preferred Roaming List to decide what towers to connect to based on roaming agreements that carriers make. I remember when I was with Verizon, you could dial *226 SEND and it would connect you to a system that would download the latest PRL to your device. Sometimes it would result in better service, other times not. The equivalent to a PRL in GSM is stored in what I believe is a write-protected area of the SIM Card.
Sadley I have to agree with you Datruesurfer, but if I may the code for vzw, I worked there till Jan of this yr, is *228. Unfortunately you have read correctly, I did some research on this a while back when I bought my sim reader. All the info for the towers are stored on the sim for GSM/3G as some like to use, although part of the info is stored in the phone as part of the firmware, this I figured out, because I see 2 not one AT&T in my net ops at all times, and my sim is a brand new 3G compatible sim. The reason for this is one of them is for Edge/GPRS, and the Other has 3G also incorporated. Unfortunately as of the moment I can only connect to the one that is Edge/GPRS.
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I took a look at the iphone firmare, looks like you need a Mac. Most of the files that look like ones to use are in .dmg format, here's the link to the newest firmware http://www.iphonefirmware.com/firmwares-download/ to extract the files, just download the file, and change the extension to .zip
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if i go out tomorrow i will get better internet(only option at home is to use my phone as a tether), and i will download and convert the .dmg to a .iso and have a look see. to be honest i don't know what to look for but i certainly wanna look around. this is the most work i have ever done with a phone. when i had my kaiser everyone else seemed to know a whole lot more than me and i felt left out and i never could help anyone, here in the dream forums i feel like i accomplish something every day
Well, I'm going to a 3g area today with the krazer radio...will report back results.
Before(from memory): download was about the same as edge...upload....well...you cant test that on a g1.
After: 149kb/s download
Edit: i also have a new sim card that customer care says its "made for 3g"...I guess we will see.

Wierd kaiser radio issue

I have been experimenting with various kaiser radios recently. I have had good success with almost every radio I try BUT about every 45 minutes I will no longer be able to send/receive text messages, make or receive phone calls... In order to re-establish connectivity I must pull the battery, but it back in. power the phone back up, I will be told I have no service. Then I must once again pull the battery and try again. Usually on the second try I will get a signal. At that point its anything but reliable, it will drop connectivity, but still report a signal anywhere form 5-30 minutes after.
Currently Im running the official 3.34.721.2 WWE rom, 1.65.21.18 radio, and SPL-1.0.OliPof. I have a kaiser 130, unbranded, and my carrier is AT&T.
The issue existed with pdacorner v18, and every 1.7x.xx.xx I tried.
What am I missing?
My first guess would be your SPL, it's hella old. Try upgrading that to one from here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420683
3.29 is most recommended one for newer roms
ok, flashed 3.29 hard2, i will have a status report in 30 (ish) minutes
Ok I tested the SIM in another phone, just for quality control. I no longer even get a signal. I tried both the 1.65.21.18 and the 1.71.09.01 radios. I also hard reset just for good measure for both radios. is there some kind of master-reset for the radio? i am going to leave the battery out for the rest of the evening.
After leaving the kaiser with the battery out for 6 hours, I still have the same issues. It plain doesn't make sense. Does anyone have any ideas?
reflash the stock at&t wm6.0 rom let it go threw its set up and all, then reflash the stock att 6.1 rom! i had similar issue with my phone at one time and just reflashing att 6.1 didnt fix it, had to do att6.0 then att6.1 then i was back up and running
Ok, I flashed the oldest wm6 wwe rom I could find. The problem did not get any better, I can no longer use wifi. What is the cause of this nonsense!!
similar problem here, but I had not updated the phone at all at this point. This week I've now tried AT&Ts official 6.1, HTC 3.34.721.2 with radio 1.70.19.09, nothing works.
Where about in the country are you guys located? Also, we should take this discussion to the radio thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
Please answer these for us:
Location!!!! Be specific, ie Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
Also, what is the exact current state of your phone? ROM info, Radio info, Hard SPL info.
As well, what phone were you using previous to the Tilt, or is it a problem that just surfaced? I know that if you don't have an AT&T 3G SIM card, it will have major issues if you try to use it with a 3G phone.
the0ne.john said:
Ok, I flashed the oldest wm6 wwe rom I could find. The problem did not get any better, I can no longer use wifi. What is the cause of this nonsense!!
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Sell your Tilt and but a Tracfone. J/K
Same Issues
I'm having the same issues as the OP. I'm in Dallas, TX and I've tried different radios on several ROMs.
Currently I'm using radio 1.65.24.36. I've tried 1.71.09.01 and 1.65.16.25 also.
I'm attempting to flash back to an ATT OEM ROM, but judging from the OPs posts it seems like it might be a waste of time. My sim card is 3G and the phone was purchased in November. I might try getting the sim replaced and see what that does.
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I'm having the same issues as the OP. I'm in Dallas, TX
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It is a known problem with AT&T 3G services in cebteral Texas... it is a bit of an insider's secret. There is an excellent thread on www.phonescoop.com where AT&T emoyees discuss the matter. It is also prevalent in other areas of the country, and is a result of the switching boards for the 3G service not talking with one another properly.
Finding the right radio does make a difference, but it wil not be miraculous in it's improvement. I will post a link to the thread when i get a chance tomorrow afternoon, but if you go to phonescoop on your own, do a search of the forum for AT&T centeral texas and itshould bring it up in the first couple of results.
Here is the direct link for the thread talking about this:
http://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&ff=4&fi=2015964

Can I get this to work on T-Mobile?

Hello guys, I just bought a Fuze on ebay, locked to AT&T of course. But I have T-Mobile. I have already payed the person who will unlock it for me. But if I then install a new ROM will it still work with T-Mo? and what is a Radio? I saw it has been mentioned here quite often.
Sorry for being a noob
Ali_Shaikh said:
Hello guys, I just bought a Fuze on ebay, locked to AT&T of course. But I have T-Mobile. I have already payed the person who will unlock it for me. But if I then install a new ROM will it still work with T-Mo? and what is a Radio? I saw it has been mentioned here quite often.
Sorry for being a noob
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go there :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
about Radio most roms comes with one installed already i suggest to get use to flashing new roms and from there you will understand more about Radio.Good luck.
Yes
Yes U can I flash several times a week using a T-mobile USA phone plan and so far Radio wise I get the best performance from 1.12.25.19. The latest one isn't bad either it depends where you live and some other stuff I can't really explain. I stay in Houston area incase that helps. Radio as to do with how your phone handles signal like gps etc. I suggest you read allot of threads to understand more things, be confident with what your doing before you flash
Hi Ali
As suggested by gguy- the radio is the part of the phone that communicates with the mobile phone network (and gps satelites). It is not a direct reference to the FM radio function.
Try to find a new radio based upon recommendations from others on the same carrier as you.
The quality of signal strength varies from one radio to another, what suits me might not suit you. It is worth noting that the radio will also have an impact on battery life as a weak signal will drain the battery faster.
On a locked phone you will only be able to use rapheal radios, if you unlock your phone you will be free to use the radios from some other phones.
Updating the radio leaves the rom as is and thus will not delete your files.

What radio to use

Hiya peeps well i am new at this so am not a out blown expert i did a lot of research and i could not find some answer to some wanted question on radio and stuff like that now where i should start
ok i had my treo 750 to att 2.25 and wm 6.1 and i wanted it unbranded to 2.27 so i followed the instruction and i tried to do the radio up date using cheetah but i most have did something not right, for this part i got one question
using a sim card in the network setting for band should it work on auto or its normal that i need to specified what band am using? or i did something to my radio? (and not talking what tower it should connect to that automatic am talking between gsm and umts since am on telus that uses bell/telus shared tower that on UMTS 850 / UMTS 1900 network code of 302880 since i did that at lease it said the right provider and its no longer disconnecting me or saying no service)
if i update my radio should i use from this site?
www crc.id.au/files/xda/Radio_Roms
if yes what version that is safely work with unbranded 2.27 and wm 6.1
if no then where i can find the right radio rom i can grab for my treo 750 and instruction how to install it lol
am trying to understand how the phone should be setup while using a sim card without any disconnection by the phone also gime ability of roaming as well since i like my phone to be able too for future use
anyway thanks for reading and really do hope someone reply
also P.S: about the roaming icon any solution to that?
When you flash an OS ROM, it doesn't change the radio ROM. You have to flash it seperately.
I would suggest you only use the most recent radio ROM for your provider.
I have used 1.54.07 and 1.54.27 on my AT&T Treo 750 with success.
The Treo uses Hermes ROM's ... here is the repository.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
Do not install 1.54.30.10 ... it's not a great radio from many accounts and once flashed, you will be stuck with it. You can't flash a new radio over the top of it.
ok now the radio is updated and it work i used the 1.54.07.00 so now am happy for that part but i got 1 more treo 750 i could not updated the radio due to there spl is 0.25 then 1.40 like my main one i normally test on them other treo so if they turn into a brick i would not care lol
is there a way to update a bootloader or i miss something somewhere?
Sounds like you need to Hard SPL the second phone.
well that what am trying to do when i do try with the hard spl v7 it does not work it goes blank so am trying to see if i can find a bootloader that 1.40 so i can so the same thing on the second phone to test radios and other kinky stuff
also on the side spot i notice that my phone fails to auto detect its band and the only way i can make it work is to select the right band for my provider is it coz i didn;t completely unlock my radio or i did something that bad? or re-flash the phone?
Anyone tried the 1.48 Radio ROM. Some are claiming better battery life than the 1.54.
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well that what am trying to do when i do try with the hard spl v7 it does not work it goes blank so am trying to see if i can find a bootloader that 1.40 so i can so the same thing on the second phone to test radios and other kinky stuff
also on the side spot i notice that my phone fails to auto detect its band and the only way i can make it work is to select the right band for my provider is it coz i didn;t completely unlock my radio or i did something that bad? or re-flash the phone?
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I wasn't aware there was a v7 to Hard SPL, I just used the version in the first post of the HardSPL sticky here in the Treo 750 forum. It's worked on both Treo's I have tried it on. I would say re-download and re-format the SD card and try again?
As for having to select bands on your phone, my guess is whatever ROM you have flashed might not have the carrier information for your provider included, or your radio might not support the proper bands. Telus doesn't use the same 3G bands as AT&T, but Rogers does. Depending on which version of the phone you have, that could be the issue.
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Anyone tried the 1.48 Radio ROM. Some are claiming better battery life than the 1.54.
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I tried it on AT&T and both the 1.54.07 and 1.54.27 ROMS were far better in terms of reception for me. Can't remember on the battery life since it's been awhile, but have to believe at the time if it was an issue I would have made the change back.
startngate said:
I tried it on AT&T and both the 1.54.07 and 1.54.27 ROMS were far better in terms of reception for me. Can't remember on the battery life since it's been awhile, but have to believe at the time if it was an issue I would have made the change back.
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Okay - mine has 1.54.27 on it so I'll leave well enough alone. I just got this off of eBay (non camera version so I can take it to certain places at work) so I'm not sure what to expect for performance. The orginal battery lasted about 1/2 day so I just got a new OEM original battery and still burning it in.
Thanks for the tip.
rdecker692000 said:
Okay - mine has 1.54.27 on it so I'll leave well enough alone. I just got this off of eBay (non camera version so I can take it to certain places at work) so I'm not sure what to expect for performance. The orginal battery lasted about 1/2 day so I just got a new OEM original battery and still burning it in.
Thanks for the tip.
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I've always been able to get through the day without issue, but can't say I'm a heavy user.
The stock battery is 1200mAh, but Innocell makes a 1600 mAh battery that fits in the OEM space if you need more juice.
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/basi16tr680s.htm
startngate said:
I wasn't aware there was a v7 to Hard SPL, I just used the version in the first post of the HardSPL sticky here in the Treo 750 forum. It's worked on both Treo's I have tried it on. I would say re-download and re-format the SD card and try again?
As for having to select bands on your phone, my guess is whatever ROM you have flashed might not have the carrier information for your provider included, or your radio might not support the proper bands. Telus doesn't use the same 3G bands as AT&T, but Rogers does. Depending on which version of the phone you have, that could be the issue.
I tried it on AT&T and both the 1.54.07 and 1.54.27 ROMS were far better in terms of reception for me. Can't remember on the battery life since it's been awhile, but have to believe at the time if it was an issue I would have made the change back.
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well can ya link me the right hardspl
for my band selection problem is it the OS rom or the Radio rom and if there is one for my carrier where i can find it?
xmadragex said:
well can ya link me the right hardspl
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It's the first 'sticky' thread in this forum as I previously mentioned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334100
xmadragex said:
for my band selection problem is it the OS rom or the Radio rom and if there is one for my carrier where i can find it?
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It's likely not the OS ROM causing it. Assuming you have other phones that lock onto a signal properly in the same locations, then it's probably the radio ROM. However, if the Treo in question was not originally sold for your carrier (which I assume is Telus) then it's possible that the phone is trying to find a frequency for 3G that is not supported by Telus. For example, AT&T shares the same 3G frequencies with Rogers, which are different from Telus'. If you have a Rogers or AT&T version of the Treo, you would probably be better off just locking the phone down to GSM only.
As for finding the proper radio, you would need to try to find any Telus radio ROM that you can. Have no idea what that would be, or where to find it. If you have the original WM5 or WM6 official Telus installer package it would likely be included there. Otherwise you are just going to have to scour the net in seach of it.
Hmm, in my tests it is the OS that handles the Band selection only, what bands the Treo supports is up to the Radio firmware. You can flash a radio that, say, doesn't support UMTS 850, and yet it's possible to write a code to have it selectable.
And a word of advice. If you flash any of those Hermes ROM's, there's no taking it out. No overwriting. So, say if your wireless carrier upgrades their network like mine did, there's no going back to any of the suitable Radios that you can find.
And, just to be helpful, I'll write down which Official Treo Radio can be found in where(the ones I have):
CNG 1.16 (Cingular WM5) with Radio 1.12c [no HSDPA enabled by default]
VFU/VFE 2.18 (Vodafone UK and EU WM6) 2.18 with radio 1.47.02.00 [fast HSPDA on UMTS 2100 band]
H3E 2.19 (H3E Australia WM6) with radio 1.52.30.00 [no GSM locking, AUS band]
ROW 2.23 (WWE Generic WM6) with radio 1.54.00.00 [equal performance on all bands]
ATT/CNG 2.25 (AT&T WM6) with radio 1.54.27.00[Optimized for 1900/850 UMTS bands]
TEL 2.26 (Telstra WM6) with radio 1.54.31.00 [Extra band locking to single UMTS band (850)]
ROG/ROW 2.27 (Rogers and WWE WM6) with radio 1.54.01.00 [Slight performance increase over ROW 2.23]
VFE 2.30 (Vodafone New Zealand WM6) with radio 1.54.02.00 [bug fixes and improvements over ROG/ROW 2.27]
All personally flashed and extensively tested by me on two wireless carriers testing all bands.
mangatron said:
Hmm, in my tests it is the OS that handles the Band selection only, what bands the Treo supports is up to the Radio firmware. You can flash a radio that, say, doesn't support UMTS 850, and yet it's possible to write a code to have it selectable.
And a word of advice. If you flash any of those Hermes ROM's, there's no taking it out. No overwriting. So, say if your wireless carrier upgrades their network like mine did, there's no going back to any of the suitable Radios that you can find.
And, just to be helpful, I'll write down which Official Treo Radio can be found in where(the ones I have):
CNG 1.16 (Cingular WM5) with Radio 1.12c [no HSDPA enabled by default]
VFU/VFE 2.18 (Vodafone UK and EU WM6) 2.18 with radio 1.47.02.00 [fast HSPDA on UMTS 2100 band]
H3E 2.19 (H3E Australia WM6) with radio 1.52.30.00 [no GSM locking, AUS band]
ROW 2.23 (WWE Generic WM6) with radio 1.54.00.00 [equal performance on all bands]
ATT/CNG 2.25 (AT&T WM6) with radio 1.54.27.00[Optimized for 1900/850 UMTS bands]
TEL 2.26 (Telstra WM6) with radio 1.54.31.00 [Extra band locking to single UMTS band (850)]
ROG/ROW 2.27 (Rogers and WWE WM6) with radio 1.54.01.00 [Slight performance increase over ROW 2.23]
VFE 2.30 (Vodafone New Zealand WM6) with radio 1.54.02.00 [bug fixes and improvements over ROG/ROW 2.27]
All personally flashed and extensively tested by me on two wireless carriers testing all bands.
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I guess we have different experiences then. I have had improvements in my phone locking onto a signal by changing radio ROMs without changing the OS ROM. I also have also used several of the Hermes radio ROM's and have been able to flash new radios without issue. The only exception I have ever seen is the 1.54.30.10 ROM which was widely reported to be impossible to flash over once installed (which for that reason I never tried).
I took from the OP that he was having trouble with his phone locking onto a signal and it was showing up as roaming a lot. I guess my thought was that perhaps he had a phone that wasn't originally sold for his network and it was trying to lock onto a band his carrier didn't support. Logically it seems like that might cause his problem, but I'm not well versed enough to know for sure.
As I mentioned, I am on AT&T and am using the 1.54.27 radio you report. It's the best of the radio ROMs I have tried. The Hermes 1.54.07 was the second best I tried. Thanks for the list, I'm sure it will help a lot of people. Of course you will now start getting requests to post them ...
Heh, when I said it's the OS that controls th selection, I mean just that, basically the drop-down menu in Band Selection. I too know that one can flash new radio's without changing OS's (you don't even have to Clear Data to use the new radio, just edit your choice of Data Connection setting, save, and your phone will automatically re-list your internet setup for use), and that's the thing. The OS will retain the Drop-down menu selection of bands, as it is tied to the OS (or both .pxp packages), an example is several tests I tried, for example the H3E ROM, does not have a selection for "GSM only" in the network type list. Say, if you flashed the ATT radio only then it will still retain the lack of GSM, because it is tied to the OS.
And yeah, I'm sure there would be at least one request. The problem is, I lost my source of instructions for ripping the Radio Firmware from the .nbh files and I do not want people having bricked Treo's all because I didn't follow instructions [I don't have]. Other course of action is to share th ROM itself, but that's large and I don't have an always on connection (this here Treo is my only source for internet, tether and built-in browser)
By the way, there are a lot of others who could not flash over other Hermes Radios, not that .10 one. I myself have 2 AT&T Treo's, and I flashed radio 1.50.00.00 and it remained no matter what I used to flash over it. I eventually gave away that half past dead Treo :/
well it used to be on auto with my telus card and it works on 3g network, the problem happend when i updated my treo 750 to 2.27 from 2.25 with wm6.1 am starting to think i mightn eed to reflash the rom it self
ok my wife as a fido sim card indeed i think its telus sim card the problem i have to use selective band it didn't needed that before i turn the phone from 2.25 ATT to 2.27 rwe the fido card work with the last radio version and i finally updated the bootloader
telus work with selective band >.>
now to know why fido card work auto but not telus
what does the radio do?
i got radio 1.54 .and i got two battery indicator when i installed HTC home (six tabs)
one bat is full and the other is like by bar. i want to remove the two battery because i got some newer/cooler battery indicator.
and i search some radios (idk why) so i try to installed other radios. and my phone stucks at the three colors.
and something pops up to my mind. i use cheetah unlocker. it got
FLASH SPL
RADIO.
idk the one.
so i flash spl and till i get to radio. it automatically updates to 1.1six some other icons on task bar changes.
but what does the radio do? and i dont know.
-sorry for the Six. because my Sixth button on keyboard is broken.

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