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T-Mobile Rom or Cingular Rom??

i may sound stupid but i was wondering...
i am using T-Mobiles 2.26 Rom and tmobile has horrible reception @ my work and house i was justing wondering i flash my phone with a cingular rom and than to flash to any other rom like XDA M63 will i have any better reception??? and if so does anyone know where i can download the latest and best cingular rom??

You can find the latest OFFICIAL Cingular ROM on HTC's website. However, you will need to unlock your phone (if it isn't already) in order to flash another Carrier's ROM.
You might just want to try some different radios on the phone and check your reception before flashing a whole different ROM, though. Those can be found in the ftp section.

but in theory would it work?? i dnt want to have to flash me fone for no reason.. u know?? would i be able to use my tmobile service with cingular reception??

smileyaj2005 said:
but in theory would it work?? i dnt want to have to flash me fone for no reason.. u know?? would i be able to use my tmobile service with cingular reception??
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I believe what you WANT to be asking is can I flash a cingular RADIO only rom so I can get better reception while using my tmobile rom or XM6R3...the answer is yes..radio rom's are not provider dependent.
I don't think you'd want to run an actual cingular rom on your phone and then use it with tmobile...I suppose you could but you'd have to manually configure your gprs...mms etc.
mfrazzz explains the flashing process in his first post pretty well for XM6r3 but to recap. Flash Tmobile 2.26...flash whatever radio only rom you want..then flash XM6R3.

famewolf said:
mfrazzz explains the flashing process in his first post pretty well for XM6r3 but to recap. Flash Tmobile 2.26...flash whatever radio only rom you want..then flash XM6R3.
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Just to clarify, you can flash the Radio after you have installed a custom rom like XM6r3 (you don't have to do it in that exact order). I've changed radios numerous times without reflashing the entire rom with no problems (as long as its a radio only rom).

just one more thing.. where can i find cingular radio only roms?? and is there anywhere i can look to see the differnece??

smileyaj2005 said:
just one more thing.. where can i find cingular radio only roms?? and is there anywhere i can look to see the differnece??
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You can find several radio only rom's in mfrazzz's first post (notice how I keep pointing you back to that OVER and OVER?)...you can do a search on XDA to find the difference's in the various rom's but most of the results will be suibjective depending on carrier (tmobile, cingular) and location..your best bet is to try them and see which one works best in your particular situation.

hey, i got a question, where i work i get no reception but a friend with tmobile has full reception, he has a wing on wm6 and i have a hermes. is there anyway to get into the tmobile reception while im at work? like a progrtam?

Why don't you go and ask him what radio rom he's using.
It should show up in the 'device information' area of your settings folder.

takashikastl said:
hey, i got a question, where i work i get no reception but a friend with tmobile has full reception, he has a wing on wm6 and i have a hermes. is there anyway to get into the tmobile reception while im at work? like a progrtam?
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Lets not forget that tower location for each carrier will play a big part in how good your signal is. Where you work there may be a T-Mo tower fairly close by giving your friend a great signal but on the edge of the coverage area for your carrier which is why you have no reception. You can change radio roms all day long and maybe see a little improvement, but it won't put you onto the T-Mo network (unless you can configure your phone to roam on the T-Mo network). I've got the reverse situation where I work; T-Mo gets no signal but US Cellular and Verizon both get decent strength.

HTC Touch Pro/AT&T Fuze with Fido

Hey everyone,
I got an AT&T Fuze (Touch Pro) and Im using it on Fido in Canada. My data is working perfectly fine, my only issue is that my phone keeps switching from 3G to H every once in a while, I was just wondering why and whats the reason for that?
Also, I have a little exclamation mark (in a yellow triangle) in the top right hand corner right beside the 3G/H/E Icon. I don't know why thats there?
Thanks to all for the help!

No, that's neither yours nor your phone issues. Once you' re in the better speed coverage, the phone will jump to H or your phone is accessing the internet.
"little exclamation mark" is a "roaming" indicator.

Heres the thing, it jumps back and forth while even accessing/using data.
Is there anyway to get rid of the exclamation mark?

have you flashed the rom?

I would be interested in how to get rid of the roaming icon too.
I have tried all the registry changes to no avail. The icon, and roaming warnings for things like the weather app, remain. It's about the last thing I need to fix but I seem to be stuck.

Im using RRE's ROM. So far it seems to have fixed itself, but now Im having more issues. I wonder if I should flash to a different ROM.

Hi guys,
I have a somewhat related problem and I hope someone can help me out. I just recently bought an unlocked HTC Touch Pro (not the Fuze version) and I am using it with my Fido sim card. Everything works and I was able to setup EDGE on it, but what bothers me is it keeps saying that I am roaming (for example when I access the Weather app). I am wondering if this is just some sort of a glitch due to the phone being unlocked or am I really roaming? I also get that roaming icon at the top. I am located in Vancouver so I am not out of town or anything. I just want to make sure so I don't end up having a crazy invoice by the end of the month. Thanks very much in advance.

mu061686 said:
Hi guys,
I have a somewhat related problem and I hope someone can help me out. I just recently bought an unlocked HTC Touch Pro (not the Fuze version) and I am using it with my Fido sim card. Everything works and I was able to setup EDGE on it, but what bothers me is it keeps saying that I am roaming (for example when I access the Weather app). I am wondering if this is just some sort of a glitch due to the phone being unlocked or am I really roaming? I also get that roaming icon at the top. I am located in Vancouver so I am not out of town or anything. I just want to make sure so I don't end up having a crazy invoice by the end of the month. Thanks very much in advance.
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It's because Fido uses Roger's towers now, but the companies are still identified separately and therefore it thinks you're roaming. As long as you have a data plan, you should be ok.
PS. Depending where in Vancouver you are, you should be getting at least 3G (3G), or hopefully HSDPA (H), vs Edge (E).

xda_fanboy said:
It's because Fido uses Roger's towers now, but the companies are still identified separately and therefore it thinks you're roaming. As long as you have a data plan, you should be ok.
PS. Depending where in Vancouver you are, you should be getting at least 3G (3G), or hopefully HSDPA (H), vs Edge (E).
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xda_fanboy, thank you very much for the helpful information. I can finally stop worrying. I do have a data plan with Fido so that should do. However, this is the second day of using the Touch Pro and the only data network I get is Edge. The only setup I did to my phone is what is listed in http://www.iday.ca/2008/11/how-to-setup-rogers-or-fido.html, under the Fido section. Would you mind taking a look and see if that is all that I need to do? I really appreciate all your help. Thanks again.

mu061686 said:
xda_fanboy, thank you very much for the helpful information. I can finally stop worrying. I do have a data plan with Fido so that should do. However, this is the second day of using the Touch Pro and the only data network I get is Edge. The only setup I did to my phone is what is listed in http://www.iday.ca/2008/11/how-to-setup-rogers-or-fido.html, under the Fido section. Would you mind taking a look and see if that is all that I need to do? I really appreciate all your help. Thanks again.
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Please see my post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3192894&postcount=3 and see if it helps. I believe you also need to go into Settings>Connections>Advanced Network and enable HSDPA/HSUPA to get the full benefit.

mu061686 said:
xda_fanboy, thank you very much for the helpful information. I can finally stop worrying. I do have a data plan with Fido so that should do. However, this is the second day of using the Touch Pro and the only data network I get is Edge. The only setup I did to my phone is what is listed in http://www.iday.ca/2008/11/how-to-setup-rogers-or-fido.html, under the Fido section. Would you mind taking a look and see if that is all that I need to do? I really appreciate all your help. Thanks again.
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I also have this phone and live in Vancouver on Fido. I don't think it will work on 3G, or so it seems. Mine is not the ATT version either, just the stock HTC. Currently it runs fine on the standard network, although as mentioned i have not been able to get rid of the roaming icon, but have never been charged extra. Its too bad we can't use it on 3G, and if any can find a way, that would be awesome, id love to be using the full potential of this phone.
I think we are stuck with no 3G, unless there are any suggestions?

If your not using the AT&T Fuze, then you won't have 3G in North America. Don't worry about the roaming icon. Since the phone (or is it the software?) has no idea that Fido uses Rogers' towers, it thinks your roaming. I have the roaming icon as well, had it on many non-branded Fido phones.
I turned off 3G because I hate seeing my icon go to 3G then H at random times besides when Im using actual data and it seems that with 3G, I get worse reception! Makes no sense I know, I've tried 3 different radio's and all have the same issue. Im thinking if an HTC Touch Diamond Rogers branded Radio will work, then that would probably work the best. Anybody know if/where I can get it?

Professional Help PLEASSSE!!!! HTC TOUCH PRO Rogers wireless!!
I Cant get my phone to use HSPDA or 3G high speed internet. Its only working with EDGE.
Now ive been reading these forums, but i have no clue how to get the correct rom for my device, nor do i know how toeven install it or set it up if i did.
I know people are busy these days but if SOMEONE OUT THERE can please walk me through it step by step...ill marry you (only if ur a chick i dont swing those ways!!!!)
Id love to get the full potential out of my phone please help me...
HTC TOUCH PRO
ROGERS WIRELESS

Speng2 said:
I Cant get my phone to use HSPDA or 3G high speed internet. Its only working with EDGE.
Now ive been reading these forums, but i have no clue how to get the correct rom for my device, nor do i know how toeven install it or set it up if i did.
I know people are busy these days but if SOMEONE OUT THERE can please walk me through it step by step...ill marry you (only if ur a chick i dont swing those ways!!!!)
Id love to get the full potential out of my phone please help me...
HTC TOUCH PRO
ROGERS WIRELESS
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If you bought a stock HTC Touch Pro (non-ATT, non-North American) then you won't have the NA 3G radio frequency and you're stuck with Edge.
Regarding a ROM, head over to the ROM sub-forum. There's a step-by-step guide on flashing your first ROM. As far as which ROM is best, it depends entirely on what you want from it, and even then varies by personal choice from person to person. There is no 1 "best" ROM. Check out all the ROM threads (there's a Roger's specific ROM available FYI) and pick one based on what you like.

xda_fanboy said:
If you bought a stock HTC Touch Pro (non-ATT, non-North American) then you won't have the NA 3G radio frequency and you're stuck with Edge.
Regarding a ROM, head over to the ROM sub-forum. There's a step-by-step guide on flashing your first ROM. As far as which ROM is best, it depends entirely on what you want from it, and even then varies by personal choice from person to person. There is no 1 "best" ROM. Check out all the ROM threads (there's a Roger's specific ROM available FYI) and pick one based on what you like.
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I have a similar problem as Speng2, but I have the HTC Fuze which is the american ATT branded one. I unlocked it, flashed the NATF 4.7 rom and tried many diff radios and can never get more than EDGE. I used to have 3g when it was stock. I live in Los Angeles which is a 3g area. I get full edge signal but no 3g or HSPDA. I have a feeling it has to do with a setting. Pls help.

ipisbored said:
I have a similar problem as Speng2, but I have the HTC Fuze which is the american ATT branded one. I unlocked it, flashed the NATF 4.7 rom and tried many diff radios and can never get more than EDGE. I used to have 3g when it was stock. I live in Los Angeles which is a 3g area. I get full edge signal but no 3g or HSPDA. I have a feeling it has to do with a setting. Pls help.
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This thread was specifically for Fido, a Canadian carrier. I have no knowledge of the settings you will require for your carrier in LA, which is the most likely reason you are not getting 3G. I would try contacting them if you haven't already. Otherwise try and find a thread for your carrier, or perhaps check HF (not sure if we can post URL's to other sites). Good luck!

What if you dont have a data plan
xda_fanboy said:
It's because Fido uses Roger's towers now, but the companies are still identified separately and therefore it thinks you're roaming. As long as you have a data plan, you should be ok.
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What if you don't have a data plan? It seems that sypod has not been charged extra for Roaming... Does anyone know how Roaming works with FIDO? I just got the HTC FUZE and I don't want to have to pay outrageous Roaming charges. Any Ideas?

New ADP 1.5 Radio

Anyone having great gains with this radio? I am gettin better reception in my office (any) where I used to get none!

Had it on for about an hour now, not seen it drop below 2 bars yet. Usually I lose service quite often. Looking forward to trying it at work tomorrow where I get extremely poor signal.
Still flickers between G and 3G though.

makethetick said:
Had it on for about an hour now, not seen it drop below 2 bars yet. Usually I lose service quite often. Looking forward to trying it at work tomorrow where I get extremely poor signal.
Still flickers between G and 3G though.
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You can use anycut or bettercut to set up a shortcut for 3G only.
Instructions: New Shortcut- Activity- Phone Info.

im on at&t, so i dont hit 3g at all. But getting edge in the office.

Gimpeh said:
You can use anycut or bettercut to set up a shortcut for 3G only.
Instructions: New Shortcut- Activity- Phone Info.
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Cheers, I'm going to keep both enabled though, reception is poor at the best of times so I like the idea of keeping my options open

froggymike911 said:
im on at&t, so i dont hit 3g at all. But getting edge in the office.
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dude you will not get 3G on at&t on the g1. research the phone hardware man... tmobile uses 1700 and or 2100 band for 3g access at&t uses a different band... as to all other wireless carriers or there would be a network clash...

clevetbs said:
dude you will not get 3G on at&t on the g1. research the phone hardware man... tmobile uses 1700 and or 2100 band for 3g access at&t uses a different band... as to all other wireless carriers or there would be a network clash...
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before you insult people use your eyes and read
"im on at&t, so i DONT hit 3g at all. But getting edge in the office."
unnecessary rudeness never helped anyone

Anybody extract it yet? I'd like to give it a test.

if by extracted, you mean seperated from the rest of 1.5, yes, i got it that way on haykuro's google code page.
ESKIMOn00b - thanks for havin my back

froggymike911 said:
if by extracted, you mean seperated from the rest of 1.5, yes, i got it that way on haykuro's google code page.
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Extract: 1. To draw out or forth; to pull out; to remove forcibly from a fixed position, as by traction or suction, etc.; as, to extract a tooth from its socket, a stump from the earth, a splinter from the finger.
LOL!!! I'm not messing with you. I just couldn't help myself!!! Thanks for the info.
Edit: I think I was getting better reception with the 2.22.19.23 radio. I'll test this one for a couple of days to see whats what.

froggymike911 said:
if by extracted, you mean seperated from the rest of 1.5, yes, i got it that way on haykuro's google code page.
ESKIMOn00b - thanks for havin my back
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yup!
and to stay on topic, ive got and flashed the new radio yet but havent really noticed any improvements, might just have to go swing by my buddys apartment, never get service in there. must be lined with lead or some $%!^...

Tested out this version the day it came out and i must say the sapphire radio is much better in many ways. Not only does it extend your battery life way more than the ota radio, it also has great service. The ota radio says your on 3g like 90 percent of the time even though you're running on edge, so i guess this might be a bug in that radio. All in all the sapphire radio is the best way to go.

I also think i am getting better reception with the new radio. However my battery life has gotten much worse. I dont even make it a full day without charging and was getting at least 1.5 days before. If it is not the radio causing this the only other possible cause is the calendar widget being on the home page.

Olinex Hard-spl : the good, the bad...

First off, this is a complaint post. I truley grateful for you cooks, and programmers at this site. The following is just my observations (for better and for worse) on how this hard-spl affected me. The rhodium is my fourth smartphone that ive owned and unlocked from this site, so i slightly experineced with the unlock proccess (the mda, g1, and the kaiser). Although with this device, however the results of this hspl crack is most intriguing.
Lets start with..
The Good - For the most part its free. This means the gift of being able to try out other peoples roms is something anyone can enjoy. This is what xda is all about, or atleast this is what we cherish the most.
The Bad - Right after I installed oplix hspl and flashed my new rom, the camera doesnt want to load. It either the "data frame" message or the "driver" error. I trying everything except "relock" the hspl (flashed stock rom, stock radio, hard resets, that mitty wipe, camera cabs, registry edits,) . Im no expert, but some thing tells me its that Olinix. Does anybody know if this could be one of those "know issues" that sometimes happen with the verizon version?
The Ugly? -
Well, uglys not really the best word... atleast not yet. You see I realized just today, every since I sim-unlocked my phone (although not CID unlock) I discovered the most suprising thing, Free Data access! And no im not refering to Opera mini, im talkin about pocket twitter, facebook, youtube (low quality only), opera mobile, PIE, htc weather, the whole enchilada.
Now for all you people thinking this sounds too good to be true, well your right. There is one major flaw with the data stream, which i will get to later. First let me describe my exact circumstance to achive this oddity.
My rhodium is verizon. Its sim unlocked (but not security unlocked!), and im using a Tmobile prepaid sim with the sidekick plan. There is a balance of 0$ on my account, and it hasnt been active for a couple months. I have oplix hspl and a Mighty Rom installed. I deleted the verizon apn from connection settings and made a new one with the T-mobile apn, but i still named it Verizon anyways cuz im weird like that... After experimentation, i found out that it only works with the radio in Global mode. Good thing with a US sim inserted, the phone always defaults to GSM mode anyways... or atleast it does for me Under these conditions, I still get data access despite the fact that the sidekick plan doesnt include data access, and also the fact that THERES NO MONEY in my prepaid account.
Ok now to the ugly: The Catch. As i said before there is a catch to the "free data". That is its nowhere near 3g speeds, even for tmobile standards. Its like 8mbs/hr download speeds (using IE, not Opera mini). I know that seems horrid but theres a lot of things on you phone that requires a data plan (if no wifi available) thats very low bandwitdh. That social app updates, email sync, weather update, casual browsing, low quality youtube stream if desperate enough. Lets face it, we cant be surrounded by wifi all the time; so even getting dail-up_ish data access for free could be use be nice.
Just for the heck of it, heres my theroy why the bandwitdh is so slow. It seems to me that its due to constant interruption. For expamle when i go to google from IE, the web page seems to load a bit then stop 1/3 of the way. This Tmobiles server restricting access, and usually the browser would just quit after a couple of seconds. But for some reason it looks like the phones radio "reboots" just before the browser would normally time-out, and therefore able to "steal" another 1/3 of web page from the apn again and again. This play between APN and radio isnt too obvious and some may just pass it off as just a really low bandwitdh service.
This is very freaky behavior. Ever since Tmobile "secured" their sidekick prepaid data access to only sidekicks, i have not been able (with the exception of opera mini) access data from tmobiles hiptop APN. I wonder what make this device so special? Is because its a world phone? or are the newer radio patches able to reconnect faster? Well anyways am i the only one who noticed this, or am I losing it?

you're blaming the wrong people, t-mobile and at&t run on different gsm bands here in the states. you'll get 3g speeds in any country but not north america.

Not a single one of your complaints has anything to do with the Hard SPL. The camera access is determined by the software drivers in the ROM. Ask about it in the thread of whatever ROM you are using.
The 3G access for T-Mobile(1700/2100) is on a completely different frequency than your Verizon(800/1900) device. This is defined by the hardware, not the software. There is no "radio patch" to allow such a thing. You will never get more than EDGE speeds on the Verizon TP2 on T-Mobile's network. Just enjoy your free data access.

cajunflavoredbob said:
Not a single one of your complaints has anything to do with the Hard SPL. The camera access is determined by the software drivers in the ROM. Ask about it in the thread of whatever ROM you are using.
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Im not too sure about that because I havent been able to get the camera working with ANY rom - and i tried a dozen already, even stock. I guess the only way for me to rule out my theroy, would be to take out hspl and reload official rom and radio. Im a little hesitant about that since you only get one free unlock from olinex, so im on the fence still.
cajunflavoredbob said:
The 3G access for T-Mobile(1700/2100) is on a completely different frequency than your Verizon(800/1900) device. This is defined by the hardware, not the software. There is no "radio patch" to allow such a thing. You will never get more than EDGE speeds on the Verizon TP2 on T-Mobile's network. Just enjoy your free data access.
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Well, the icon at top is "E" symbol which i assume is for edge, because while commuting it would change to the "G" which i presume is a step below edge. Is this just a glitch in the WM OS?

maxinf said:
Im not too sure about that because I havent been able to get the camera working with ANY rom - and i tried a dozen already, even stock. I guess the only way for me to rule out my theroy, would be to take out hspl and reload official rom and radio. Im a little hesitant about that since you only get one free unlock from olinex, so im on the fence still.
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If it isn't working on the stock ROM, then you've very likely got a defective device. Hard SPL has nothing to do with the camera. Set it back to stock everything and do a warranty exchange/repair if you still have time. Check with HTC to see when it will expire if it hasn't already. You normally get 15 months from HTC on a brand new device.
Well, the icon at top is "E" symbol which i assume is for edge, because while commuting it would change to the "G" which i presume is a step below edge. Is this just a glitch in the WM OS?
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Why would that be a glitch? The service is determined by whatever the tower has. If the tower you're connected to has EDGE service, it will say EDGE. If it has only GPRS, then it will say GPRS. You will never be able to 3G from T-Mobile on the Verizon model. The hardware does not have the capability.

cajunflavoredbob said:
Not a single one of your complaints has anything to do with the Hard SPL. The camera access is determined by the software drivers in the ROM. Ask about it in the thread of whatever ROM you are using.
The 3G access for T-Mobile(1700/2100) is on a completely different frequency than your Verizon(800/1900) device. This is defined by the hardware, not the software. There is no "radio patch" to allow such a thing. You will never get more than EDGE speeds on the Verizon TP2 on T-Mobile's network. Just enjoy your free data access.
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Agh, I cant take it anymore. Im gotta rule out the possiblity once and for all. Im going to revert hspl, radio, rom back to stock. Ill report back with the results... crossing my fingers!

T-mobile 4g Radio

OKAY so I decided to update this thread:
There are two versions of the One X. One with aws bands and one without. I have a device without AWS (I am about 80 % sure). There are reports of people getting 4g on AWS with the Rogers Version as of now, and more testers need to check it out as it could still be possible on ATT.
This flash here theoretically could enable the One X radio to lach onto AWS (The radios here are for the One S Ville.)
http://ville.giev.de/?page_id=42
I have flashed all three, and although I did not get 4g, I got faster ping and a near immediate connection onto T-mobile. To all the people saying this will "brick" the phone, it does not and you have nothing to worry. But as always make sure to do a backup. The radio hacks for the Skyrocket/Note were also based on flashing the Galaxy S2 radio directly on top. This should work the same.

I'm interested in this as well. What does is involved and the risk? I don't have warranty on my phone, so I'm a little bit leery in being first.

ver2go said:
I'm interested in this as well. What does is involved and the risk? I don't have warranty on my phone, so I'm a little bit leery in being first.
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if your rooted ull should be fine just make a back up of ur current set up. this is just a clockwork flash, it may not even flash, but if it does then there's a high chance of 4g.
i've done radio hacks before for the droid 3/skyrocket/note all from a similar concept. ex. flashing the t-mobile galaxy s2 radio on the note, to enable 4g.
if anyone could provide me with a better solution for an unlock i am sure i can get this to work. seems that the htc unlocker server is down right now
it's the same thing as flashing different radios via clockwork posted in the One X android dev forum

I'll give it a try, hopefully it won't mess anything up. So I just flash the radio in recovery. If no good, I just flash the correct radio again?
There is a one click no HTC Dev bootloader unlock in the Dev forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734558
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I flashed:
Radio from RUU_Ville_U_HTC_Europe_1.78.401.2 [Recommended] (update by rhcp)
0.16.31501S.17_2_10.23.31501S.10L
From your link. It flashed correctly. The phone on data and voice still works. I confirmed the version in Settings is not my original:
0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08L
I'm still on Edge, but I'm in a crappy cell area, so still not certain if radio or my area. I might give the:
Radio from Stock T-Mobile US (update by rhcp)
0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L
Radio a try too.

good to hear no negative results got my phone unlocked so i will be testing tonight. also do u guys have the newer sims or older ones?

I have an older sim I believe. It is one that came from an activation kit I bought off ebay. I tried the T-Mobile radio and same results, still on Edge, but still could be my location.

What in gods name are you guys doing! ? Are you trying to brick your phones? It's already been confirmed that the hardware on this phone does not support the proper bands for T-Mobile 3g!

seh6183 said:
What in gods name are you guys doing! ? Are you trying to brick your phones? It's already been confirmed that the hardware on this phone does not support the proper bands for T-Mobile 3g!
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Prove it. Why would the phone soc be any different than the one s one.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

ECEXCURSION said:
Prove it. Why would the phone soc be any different than the one s one.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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It's not just the SOC that determines hardware compatibility. There are various radio amplifiers and filters which are tuned to the specific frequencies that the phone is likely to encounter. If a phone is going to be sold in multiple markets, sometimes the hardware filters are set up for all frequencies and some are disabled via software, but often times this is not the case.
It's not impossible that a radio reflash can make it work, though highly improbable.
sassafras

Interested in this. There might be better luck flashing the tmo radio since I don't think any European operators use AWS bands, correct me if I'm wrong.
Can anyone explain why flashing this radio from a different device won't brick our phones?

tspx23 said:
good to hear no negative results got my phone unlocked so i will be testing tonight. also do u guys have the newer sims or older ones?
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I have a tmobile one s, but i also have the one from att and i am so interested on using this phone over tmobile 4g let me know if i can of help. I am using my micro sim that came with the one s and i am getting edge (asume its the latest from tmobbile 4g mucro sim. I am on 1.85 rooted but i did not unlock. though i am sure we can flash through CWM. any ways i am sure there is a way out to get 3g or 4g on the one x on tmobile did not find the way yet.

flashed both of the t-mobile modems no luck for me either, although my ping is significantly higher and connects to t-mobile a LOT quicker.
does anyone know how to edit the LTE settings. it is odd but for most ATT LTE phones they have the 1700mhz frequency i think it would be a matter of just defaulting that....
the radios also show up in my baseband so i have successful flashes
EDIT: one more thing, before i was not able to use data at all considering i had the newer t-mobile sims but now data works but on edge speed.

danada said:
Interested in this. There might be better luck flashing the tmo radio since I don't think any European operators use AWS bands, correct me if I'm wrong.
Can anyone explain why flashing this radio from a different device won't brick our phones?
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it's just a file in your system. it could potentially brick your phone but you can always get into recovery and restore. which is why i stated you should create a back up of your device before trying it out.
however, i was fairly certain it wouldn't do that because the internals of the One S/One X are nearly identical, they both share the same processor and most likely similar (if not same, radios).
either way, the the radios work, getting me higher ping, and working data without having to switch out my sim for an older one, hope there is a way to activate the 1700 band !
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_at&t-4614.php
EDIT 2: apparently there are two models of the ATT One X/XL one with the 1700 band and one without

tspx23 said:
flashed both of the t-mobile modems no luck for me either, although my ping is significantly higher and connects to t-mobile a LOT quicker.
does anyone know how to edit the LTE settings. it is odd but for most ATT LTE phones they have the 1700mhz frequency i think it would be a matter of just defaulting that....
the radios also show up in my baseband so i have successful flashes
EDIT: one more thing, before i was not able to use data at all considering i had the newer t-mobile sims but now data works but on edge speed.
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Likely the software has been changed to support T-Mobile, but the hardware (filters, amplifiers, etc) are non-existent, so you'll never get actual 1700 MHz AWS support.
Of course, this is just a 50,000 foot view perspective without actually trying it myself.
sassafras

sassafras_ said:
Likely the software has been changed to support T-Mobile, but the hardware (filters, amplifiers, etc) are non-existent, so you'll never get actual 1700 MHz AWS support.
Of course, this is just a 50,000 foot view perspective without actually trying it myself.
sassafras
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you might be right about this one but there are certain One X/XL's that do have the 1700 band found out through some searching and trying to figure out the reason behind it.
If that's correct.... the people with the 1700 band would have 4g when they flash this radio! also use *#*#4636#*#* to change network type to lte/gsm
--- for other phones though like the Skyrocket/Note they were directly compatible with T-mobile radios.

Okay, I flashed the Tmo One S radio and did not receive a brick. What I did receive is a not-so-good connection that will switch between HSPA+ and 3G quite often.
I don't have a WIND sim to test with, but I tried running AT commands on my phone and they don't seem to be working. I tried doing a network scan with AT+COPS=? waited forever and had nothing displayed.
Strange...
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Rebooted and ran the commands again. Still don't see any AWS carriers.
uid=0 [email protected]:/ # +COPS: (1,"CAN Rogers Wireless Inc.","ROGERS","302720",7
),(2,"ROGERS","","302720",2),(1,"CAN Rogers Wireless Inc.","ROGERS","302720",0),
(1,"","","302220",2),(1,"","","302610",2),(1,"","","302610",7),(1,"","","302220"
,7),,(0,1,2,3,4),(0,1,2)
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danada said:
Okay, I flashed the Tmo One S radio and did not receive a brick. What I did receive is a not-so-good connection that will switch between HSPA+ and 3G quite often.
I don't have a WIND sim to test with, but I tried running AT commands on my phone and they don't seem to be working. I tried doing a network scan with AT+COPS=? waited forever and had nothing displayed.
Strange...
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Rebooted and ran the commands again. Still don't see any AWS carriers.
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Don't you need a wind sim to connect im pretty sure the Canadian version will work on aws

Confirmed on my end that even with the T-Mobile radio, I'm not getting HSPA+. Even when I drove by the Moscone center where 1900Mhz was refarmed during Apple's WWDC (maybe it was just that day?). I was hoping this would be like the Note and Rocket where I can flash different radios.
Any other new phone capable of this? The S III? If not, I may have to either wait for 1900MHz refarm or switch to Straight Talk.

ver2go said:
Confirmed on my end that even with the T-Mobile radio, I'm not getting HSPA+. Even when I drove by the Moscone center where 1900Mhz was refarmed during Apple's WWDC (maybe it was just that day?). I was hoping this would be like the Note and Rocket where I can flash different radios.
Any other new phone capable of this? The S III? If not, I may have to either wait for 1900MHz refarm or switch to Straight Talk.
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Picking up an att s3 today to test it out. Most likely there's two versions of one x one with aws and one without. I know mine doesn't though.

tspx23 said:
Don't you need a wind sim to connect im pretty sure the Canadian version will work on aws
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I'm not exactly sure of this one.
If someone is willing to let me cut up their WIND sim (or lend me their WIND microsim), I'll re-flash the tmo radio and meet you somewhere to test it (Toronto, please).
~dan
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Just popped in an old WIND sim that I used to test AWS connectivity at first. Saw WIND Away with the standard radio, and after flashing the Tmo radio I see WIND Away and AT&T (AT+COPS=? shows Rogers, ATT, Telus, Bell).
I live by the lake, that would explain why ATT shows up.
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Check this out http://imgur.com/Nb984,rUvM6. Not using the One S radio...