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ATT Fuze ROM Questions

All,
I currently have an unbranded/unlocked HTC Tilt that I imported from the UK when they first came out about a year ago, well before ATT started selling their version of the Tilt. Mine has the front camera, etc.
As I understand it, ATT must have made some sort of deal with HTC on the Raphael (Fuze) because the Touch Pro I bought (and have since returned) would not support all of the 3G bands here in the states. I could only get EDGE.
I really want to get the new Fuze, but I am concerned about the limitations ATT is going to introduce on the ROM of this device, and I wouldn't buy the ATT version if there was another way to get the device with the appropriate US 3G band support.
So, my questions are:
1. Proxy Server settings: Is this available on the Fuze ROM? The Tilt I have now allows me to uncheck the "use proxy server" on my MediaNet connection profile. This is an important setting for me to have, as without it I can't get my Slingbox client and Newsbreak to work properly if it is enabled or not available to disable.
2. Internet sharing: Are the rumors of this being removed true? I hear that they pulled it. ATT is starting to look like Verizon with their ROM limitations. If they did pull the internet sharing app, can you copy it from another device or will applications like PDANet or WMWiFiRouter work in it's absence?
I think that is all I need to know for now. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
-Rob

robroy90 said:
All,
I currently have an unbranded/unlocked HTC Tilt that I imported from the UK when they first came out about a year ago, well before ATT started selling their version of the Tilt. Mine has the front camera, etc.
As I understand it, ATT must have made some sort of deal with HTC on the Raphael (Fuze) because the Touch Pro I bought (and have since returned) would not support all of the 3G bands here in the states. I could only get EDGE.
I really want to get the new Fuze, but I am concerned about the limitations ATT is going to introduce on the ROM of this device, and I wouldn't buy the ATT version if there was another way to get the device with the appropriate US 3G band support.
So, my questions are:
1. Proxy Server settings: Is this available on the Fuze ROM? The Tilt I have now allows me to uncheck the "use proxy server" on my MediaNet connection profile. This is an important setting for me to have, as without it I can't get my Slingbox client and Newsbreak to work properly if it is enabled or not available to disable.
2. Internet sharing: Are the rumors of this being removed true? I hear that they pulled it. ATT is starting to look like Verizon with their ROM limitations. If they did pull the internet sharing app, can you copy it from another device or will applications like PDANet or WMWiFiRouter work in it's absence?
I think that is all I need to know for now. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
-Rob
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why dont you just flash a new rom to it?
internet sharing is there you just have to open from file explorer
and the NA touch pro will be available after the fuze with 3G

I thought about that...
Ok, I had considered that, but if I do flash a ROM, which one?
If I flash it, will it have the appropriate application/registry entries to support the bands for proper 3G operation here in the States?
GRRRRR.... why do they pull this crap? Apparently it is too much to ask to get a true "world" phone with all the bands in hardware and software!
-Rob

well i work for at&t and i was given the fuze as a demo device about a month ago and have since decided to keep it (kind of a nice thing). you can do what i just did to mine. I flashed it with HTC firmware, then flashed the at&t radio's onto it. I was also given a link to a cab file that switches the keyboard to the at&t layout (my only gripe change).
The onlything i see intresting is the Fuze's we got in last week, when i booted one up and played with it for a customer, i noticed they have a 1.95 SPL they are shipping with. wonder if that will effect flashing to the unsigned spl. And i will say, They didnt trim much out from original software, however they gave it the good ole' at&t bloatware.

waterhurley said:
well i work for at&t and i was given the fuze as a demo device about a month ago and have since decided to keep it (kind of a nice thing). you can do what i just did to mine. I flashed it with HTC firmware, then flashed the at&t radio's onto it. I was also given a link to a cab file that switches the keyboard to the at&t layout (my only gripe change).
The onlything i see intresting is the Fuze's we got in last week, when i booted one up and played with it for a customer, i noticed they have a 1.95 SPL they are shipping with. wonder if that will effect flashing to the unsigned spl. And i will say, They didnt trim much out from original software, however they gave it the good ole' at&t bloatware.
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your store got multiple fuzes in??
and heres a question about bloatware on the fuze
with my 8525 whenever i hard reset i let it do the first customization to set the device up but i soft reset when it begins the 2nd since that is when att crap is loaded. does the fuze have a similar setup? or all at once

lbhocky19 said:
your store got multiple fuzes in??
and heres a question about bloatware on the fuze
with my 8525 whenever i hard reset i let it do the first customization to set the device up but i soft reset when it begins the 2nd since that is when att crap is loaded. does the fuze have a similar setup? or all at once
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All the configuration is done during one customization screen. A soft reset to kill the bloat must be done before you see the "3...2...1..." countdown.

NotATreoFan said:
All the configuration is done during one customization screen. A soft reset to kill the bloat must be done before you see the "3...2...1..." countdown.
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thank you
now with my 8525 i found if i cancelled the first one it messed up stuff and the phone didnt work right
if i cancel it on the fuze does everything still work and simply get rid of the att crap?

robroy90 said:
All,
I currently have an unbranded/unlocked HTC Tilt that I imported from the UK when they first came out about a year ago, well before ATT started selling their version of the Tilt. Mine has the front camera, etc.
As I understand it, ATT must have made some sort of deal with HTC on the Raphael (Fuze) because the Touch Pro I bought (and have since returned) would not support all of the 3G bands here in the states. I could only get EDGE.
I really want to get the new Fuze, but I am concerned about the limitations ATT is going to introduce on the ROM of this device, and I wouldn't buy the ATT version if there was another way to get the device with the appropriate US 3G band support.
So, my questions are:
1. Proxy Server settings: Is this available on the Fuze ROM? The Tilt I have now allows me to uncheck the "use proxy server" on my MediaNet connection profile. This is an important setting for me to have, as without it I can't get my Slingbox client and Newsbreak to work properly if it is enabled or not available to disable.
2. Internet sharing: Are the rumors of this being removed true? I hear that they pulled it. ATT is starting to look like Verizon with their ROM limitations. If they did pull the internet sharing app, can you copy it from another device or will applications like PDANet or WMWiFiRouter work in it's absence?
I think that is all I need to know for now. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
-Rob
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Rob-
I bought my Fuze off eBay so I can't swear that it is the same version as what will ship but I'm pretty sure that it is.
On mine, you can check or uncheck "use proxy server" in the Media Net settings just like on your Tilt. Also, mine DOES include the Internet Sharing. I haven't had a chance to test it out yet, but since it's there I'm guessing it works.

Internet Sharing is in the official AT&T ROM. As a matter of fact, when you connect the USB cable, you get 2 choices: Activesync or Internet Sharing. No Wireless Modem crap on the Fuze.

lbhocky19 said:
why dont you just flash a new rom to it?
internet sharing is there you just have to open from file explorer
and the NA touch pro will be available after the fuze with 3G
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Where did you find out that there will be a NA Touch Pro after the Fuze is released?

HTC Touch Pro/AT&T Fuze with Fido

Hey everyone,
I got an AT&T Fuze (Touch Pro) and Im using it on Fido in Canada. My data is working perfectly fine, my only issue is that my phone keeps switching from 3G to H every once in a while, I was just wondering why and whats the reason for that?
Also, I have a little exclamation mark (in a yellow triangle) in the top right hand corner right beside the 3G/H/E Icon. I don't know why thats there?
Thanks to all for the help!

No, that's neither yours nor your phone issues. Once you' re in the better speed coverage, the phone will jump to H or your phone is accessing the internet.
"little exclamation mark" is a "roaming" indicator.

Heres the thing, it jumps back and forth while even accessing/using data.
Is there anyway to get rid of the exclamation mark?

have you flashed the rom?

I would be interested in how to get rid of the roaming icon too.
I have tried all the registry changes to no avail. The icon, and roaming warnings for things like the weather app, remain. It's about the last thing I need to fix but I seem to be stuck.

Im using RRE's ROM. So far it seems to have fixed itself, but now Im having more issues. I wonder if I should flash to a different ROM.

Hi guys,
I have a somewhat related problem and I hope someone can help me out. I just recently bought an unlocked HTC Touch Pro (not the Fuze version) and I am using it with my Fido sim card. Everything works and I was able to setup EDGE on it, but what bothers me is it keeps saying that I am roaming (for example when I access the Weather app). I am wondering if this is just some sort of a glitch due to the phone being unlocked or am I really roaming? I also get that roaming icon at the top. I am located in Vancouver so I am not out of town or anything. I just want to make sure so I don't end up having a crazy invoice by the end of the month. Thanks very much in advance.

mu061686 said:
Hi guys,
I have a somewhat related problem and I hope someone can help me out. I just recently bought an unlocked HTC Touch Pro (not the Fuze version) and I am using it with my Fido sim card. Everything works and I was able to setup EDGE on it, but what bothers me is it keeps saying that I am roaming (for example when I access the Weather app). I am wondering if this is just some sort of a glitch due to the phone being unlocked or am I really roaming? I also get that roaming icon at the top. I am located in Vancouver so I am not out of town or anything. I just want to make sure so I don't end up having a crazy invoice by the end of the month. Thanks very much in advance.
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It's because Fido uses Roger's towers now, but the companies are still identified separately and therefore it thinks you're roaming. As long as you have a data plan, you should be ok.
PS. Depending where in Vancouver you are, you should be getting at least 3G (3G), or hopefully HSDPA (H), vs Edge (E).

xda_fanboy said:
It's because Fido uses Roger's towers now, but the companies are still identified separately and therefore it thinks you're roaming. As long as you have a data plan, you should be ok.
PS. Depending where in Vancouver you are, you should be getting at least 3G (3G), or hopefully HSDPA (H), vs Edge (E).
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xda_fanboy, thank you very much for the helpful information. I can finally stop worrying. I do have a data plan with Fido so that should do. However, this is the second day of using the Touch Pro and the only data network I get is Edge. The only setup I did to my phone is what is listed in http://www.iday.ca/2008/11/how-to-setup-rogers-or-fido.html, under the Fido section. Would you mind taking a look and see if that is all that I need to do? I really appreciate all your help. Thanks again.

mu061686 said:
xda_fanboy, thank you very much for the helpful information. I can finally stop worrying. I do have a data plan with Fido so that should do. However, this is the second day of using the Touch Pro and the only data network I get is Edge. The only setup I did to my phone is what is listed in http://www.iday.ca/2008/11/how-to-setup-rogers-or-fido.html, under the Fido section. Would you mind taking a look and see if that is all that I need to do? I really appreciate all your help. Thanks again.
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Please see my post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3192894&postcount=3 and see if it helps. I believe you also need to go into Settings>Connections>Advanced Network and enable HSDPA/HSUPA to get the full benefit.

mu061686 said:
xda_fanboy, thank you very much for the helpful information. I can finally stop worrying. I do have a data plan with Fido so that should do. However, this is the second day of using the Touch Pro and the only data network I get is Edge. The only setup I did to my phone is what is listed in http://www.iday.ca/2008/11/how-to-setup-rogers-or-fido.html, under the Fido section. Would you mind taking a look and see if that is all that I need to do? I really appreciate all your help. Thanks again.
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I also have this phone and live in Vancouver on Fido. I don't think it will work on 3G, or so it seems. Mine is not the ATT version either, just the stock HTC. Currently it runs fine on the standard network, although as mentioned i have not been able to get rid of the roaming icon, but have never been charged extra. Its too bad we can't use it on 3G, and if any can find a way, that would be awesome, id love to be using the full potential of this phone.
I think we are stuck with no 3G, unless there are any suggestions?

If your not using the AT&T Fuze, then you won't have 3G in North America. Don't worry about the roaming icon. Since the phone (or is it the software?) has no idea that Fido uses Rogers' towers, it thinks your roaming. I have the roaming icon as well, had it on many non-branded Fido phones.
I turned off 3G because I hate seeing my icon go to 3G then H at random times besides when Im using actual data and it seems that with 3G, I get worse reception! Makes no sense I know, I've tried 3 different radio's and all have the same issue. Im thinking if an HTC Touch Diamond Rogers branded Radio will work, then that would probably work the best. Anybody know if/where I can get it?

Professional Help PLEASSSE!!!! HTC TOUCH PRO Rogers wireless!!
I Cant get my phone to use HSPDA or 3G high speed internet. Its only working with EDGE.
Now ive been reading these forums, but i have no clue how to get the correct rom for my device, nor do i know how toeven install it or set it up if i did.
I know people are busy these days but if SOMEONE OUT THERE can please walk me through it step by step...ill marry you (only if ur a chick i dont swing those ways!!!!)
Id love to get the full potential out of my phone please help me...
HTC TOUCH PRO
ROGERS WIRELESS

Speng2 said:
I Cant get my phone to use HSPDA or 3G high speed internet. Its only working with EDGE.
Now ive been reading these forums, but i have no clue how to get the correct rom for my device, nor do i know how toeven install it or set it up if i did.
I know people are busy these days but if SOMEONE OUT THERE can please walk me through it step by step...ill marry you (only if ur a chick i dont swing those ways!!!!)
Id love to get the full potential out of my phone please help me...
HTC TOUCH PRO
ROGERS WIRELESS
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If you bought a stock HTC Touch Pro (non-ATT, non-North American) then you won't have the NA 3G radio frequency and you're stuck with Edge.
Regarding a ROM, head over to the ROM sub-forum. There's a step-by-step guide on flashing your first ROM. As far as which ROM is best, it depends entirely on what you want from it, and even then varies by personal choice from person to person. There is no 1 "best" ROM. Check out all the ROM threads (there's a Roger's specific ROM available FYI) and pick one based on what you like.

xda_fanboy said:
If you bought a stock HTC Touch Pro (non-ATT, non-North American) then you won't have the NA 3G radio frequency and you're stuck with Edge.
Regarding a ROM, head over to the ROM sub-forum. There's a step-by-step guide on flashing your first ROM. As far as which ROM is best, it depends entirely on what you want from it, and even then varies by personal choice from person to person. There is no 1 "best" ROM. Check out all the ROM threads (there's a Roger's specific ROM available FYI) and pick one based on what you like.
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I have a similar problem as Speng2, but I have the HTC Fuze which is the american ATT branded one. I unlocked it, flashed the NATF 4.7 rom and tried many diff radios and can never get more than EDGE. I used to have 3g when it was stock. I live in Los Angeles which is a 3g area. I get full edge signal but no 3g or HSPDA. I have a feeling it has to do with a setting. Pls help.

ipisbored said:
I have a similar problem as Speng2, but I have the HTC Fuze which is the american ATT branded one. I unlocked it, flashed the NATF 4.7 rom and tried many diff radios and can never get more than EDGE. I used to have 3g when it was stock. I live in Los Angeles which is a 3g area. I get full edge signal but no 3g or HSPDA. I have a feeling it has to do with a setting. Pls help.
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This thread was specifically for Fido, a Canadian carrier. I have no knowledge of the settings you will require for your carrier in LA, which is the most likely reason you are not getting 3G. I would try contacting them if you haven't already. Otherwise try and find a thread for your carrier, or perhaps check HF (not sure if we can post URL's to other sites). Good luck!

What if you dont have a data plan
xda_fanboy said:
It's because Fido uses Roger's towers now, but the companies are still identified separately and therefore it thinks you're roaming. As long as you have a data plan, you should be ok.
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What if you don't have a data plan? It seems that sypod has not been charged extra for Roaming... Does anyone know how Roaming works with FIDO? I just got the HTC FUZE and I don't want to have to pay outrageous Roaming charges. Any Ideas?

another radio question

Story: we all have HTC's at work. My service manager with the Touch Diamond (Verizon) is running a radio to use Sprint cell towers in our area (which outnumbers all others). I was wondering if that was possible for the G1. He's running WM 6.5 and Android on it.

No,there is not one for the g1...yet. But even if there was...i think it would require extra hardware

i was thinking to flash the radio he used the same way i did when i updated to the rc33 radio. i believe he has the latest radios for att, verizon, and sprint. that's why I decided to ask just in case.
thanks

Hey, if you have hardspl installed,and the rc29 DREAIMG.NBH on your sdcard,you can give it a shot and see and give us results(i need sprint even tho i have tmobile,only 3g in area is spring)

I'll give it a try on Tuesday. That was my main purpose in inquiring. Seeming as to how Sprint had like more cell towers than all others combined. And he's been using it with much satisfaction.
otto888 said:
Hey, if you have hardspl installed,and the rc29 DREAIMG.NBH on your sdcard,you can give it a shot and see and give us results(i need sprint even tho i have tmobile,only 3g in area is spring)
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in this works i might have a heart attack, i really would love to get on the att towers for 3G

Sprint & Verizon use CDMA, T-Mobile & AT&T use GSM.
This, unfortunately, is not possible.

i just put a radio that was used for the Kaiser onto my dream and immediately i noticed a difference in the camera speed. almost as soon as i pressed the camera button it took the picture. i used radio 1.71.09.01 all you need to do is extract the .zip from the download, and open the .nbh in a hex editor. then i saved it as radio.img and placed it in the update.zip that contains the latest radio for the g1. then i resigned it and flashed it and voila i have a new faster radio on my phone. over the next few days i will run some speed tests on the local edge network and different radios to see which one works best in the stl area. but i am freaking excited to see that i tried something and it worked.

When I get to work I'll ask if he tried the ATT radio yet.
Manacit said:
Sprint & Verizon use CDMA, T-Mobile & AT&T use GSM.
This, unfortunately, is not possible.
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tubaking182 said:
i just put a radio that was used for the Kaiser onto my dream and immediately i noticed a difference in the camera speed. almost as soon as i pressed the camera button it took the picture. i used radio 1.71.09.01 all you need to do is extract the .zip from the download, and open the .nbh in a hex editor. then i saved it as radio.img and placed it in the update.zip that contains the latest radio for the g1. then i resigned it and flashed it and voila i have a new faster radio on my phone. over the next few days i will run some speed tests on the local edge network and different radios to see which one works best in the stl area. but i am freaking excited to see that i tried something and it worked.
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Mind sharing the update.zip? i have edge and 3g towers in my area and would be glad to test.

otto888 said:
Mind sharing the update.zip? i have edge and 3g towers in my area and would be glad to test.
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unfortunately we can't get 3G from at&t as they run 3g on the 850 & 1900 mhz range, and the G1 only gets edge in that range. the G1 is set to recieve hsdpa(3G) in the 1700 and 2100 range. kinda sucks but if at&t rolls out into the 1700(download) and 2100(upload) then we can steal 3G since t-mo has failed me in getting 3G into my area.
on a side note anybody have an updated roll out schedule for 3G in 2009 for t-mo?
apparently since i am using my phone as a tether right now i can't upload my update.zip. but following the steps above should work. or PM me your email and i should be able to send it to you that way
go to Kaiser ROM development and search for "ultimate radio thread" and you will find a list of all the radios that work on the kaiser, each of them are mirrored to an external site, and you can download from there

just installed the radio you sent me,internet on edge and gprs is faster,but drains battery quicker.... But now i have another reason to get a extra battery!

I'm not testing the battery life of the phone each time, just speed testing right after flash and taking a pic to test the lag on that. Those that wanna try new radios be warned I can't tell you what radio will work best for you, I can only tell you what works for me. All problems that you come across after flashing are your faukt. I do not want 100 PMs from people asking how to fix it just cause I tried it

would one be able to extract the radio from the iphone 3g if one had the latest firmware? i have much time, and don't mind give it a try. battery life isn't a problem. have a 1600mAH for lounge nights and the 2600 for wtf (work time fun!)

if you wanted to try it it couldn't hurt to see, we aren't going to get 3G unless we have t-mo 3G in the area. but i am curious to know what the radio from the iphone would do on this phone. try it oud and look for speed test in the market and use that to test the download and upload speed. it's what i have been using, and that way we get one program doing all the tests for us and so we should all have the same margin of error

I took a look at the iphone firmare, looks like you need a Mac. Most of the files that look like ones to use are in .dmg format, here's the link to the newest firmware http://www.iphonefirmware.com/firmwares-download/ to extract the files, just download the file, and change the extension to .zip

CDMA is much different as it uses a PRL, or Preferred Roaming List to decide what towers to connect to based on roaming agreements that carriers make. I remember when I was with Verizon, you could dial *226 SEND and it would connect you to a system that would download the latest PRL to your device. Sometimes it would result in better service, other times not. The equivalent to a PRL in GSM is stored in what I believe is a write-protected area of the SIM Card.

Sadley I have to agree with you Datruesurfer, but if I may the code for vzw, I worked there till Jan of this yr, is *228. Unfortunately you have read correctly, I did some research on this a while back when I bought my sim reader. All the info for the towers are stored on the sim for GSM/3G as some like to use, although part of the info is stored in the phone as part of the firmware, this I figured out, because I see 2 not one AT&T in my net ops at all times, and my sim is a brand new 3G compatible sim. The reason for this is one of them is for Edge/GPRS, and the Other has 3G also incorporated. Unfortunately as of the moment I can only connect to the one that is Edge/GPRS.

card13 said:
I took a look at the iphone firmare, looks like you need a Mac. Most of the files that look like ones to use are in .dmg format, here's the link to the newest firmware http://www.iphonefirmware.com/firmwares-download/ to extract the files, just download the file, and change the extension to .zip
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if i go out tomorrow i will get better internet(only option at home is to use my phone as a tether), and i will download and convert the .dmg to a .iso and have a look see. to be honest i don't know what to look for but i certainly wanna look around. this is the most work i have ever done with a phone. when i had my kaiser everyone else seemed to know a whole lot more than me and i felt left out and i never could help anyone, here in the dream forums i feel like i accomplish something every day

Well, I'm going to a 3g area today with the krazer radio...will report back results.
Before(from memory): download was about the same as edge...upload....well...you cant test that on a g1.
After: 149kb/s download
Edit: i also have a new sim card that customer care says its "made for 3g"...I guess we will see.

[DEV QUESTION] Modify Radio Version (in Radio.img)

As the latest rogers EBI1 radio that is required so they do not kill your 3g connection sucks terribly (requires daily restarts so you don't drop your network connection). I'm curious if it would be possible to modify the radio.img to present whatever version to the network you wanted. This way for example you would take the latest t-mobile radio and modify it to the rogers version #.
1) Would this work?
2) If you flash via fastboot is this safe?
3) Is there some way to peak inside this .img file? Is it a file system?
Thanks!
(For the record i've been fighting with them for days to sign the waiver but my IMEI isn't recognized for some reason)

Id be wary of flashing a radio.img that has been modified, it interfaces with all the hardware and source will never be available for it... its obvious that breaking it could result in a brick. I'm normally not reluctant to flash anything, but f*cking this up would require a jtag... probably not worth doing. Not impossible though.

*CAN*, but not advisable.
Replacing the actual version string in the file is basically trivial. The problem is in determining what kind of security there exists to protect the device from someone tampering with the radio image. It is very likely that there are a whole bunch of checksums protecting the thing, and possibly a HARD BRICK will be triggered by having a checksum off.
And note that the existing common bricks I would refer to as SOFT bricks since they are basically failed recovery boots.
By HARD BRICK, I mean something like blowing a fuse that will prevent even JTAG from working.
ALSO NOTE: even withOUT having such a self-protection mechanism, we don't have the knowledge required to be able to deal with a dead radio. The current use of JTAG is just in manipulating a WORKING radio in order to disable some security (no, disabling this security wont help here....) If you kill your radio, you are basically dead.
Also important to note:
Robbers has a 911 opt-out form. 911 service will still work, but it basically says that you won't hold them responsible if you dial 911 and your phone suddenly reboots rather than dialing. Because of this, there is really NO REASON to bother with such a modification. Just run through the opt-out form and install 2.22.19.26.

Jugstah said:
This way for example you would take the latest t-mobile radio and modify it to the rogers version #.
1) Would this work?
2) If you flash via fastboot is this safe?
3) Is there some way to peak inside this .img file? Is it a file system?
Thanks!
(For the record i've been fighting with them for days to sign the waiver but my IMEI isn't recognized for some reason)
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The radio is signed and checked by the radio on flash; (The SPL does not flash it directly)
Also it is not a nand dump but a full firmware image for the radio side of the device; spread across multiple radio partitions;
With JTAG it may be possible to load an unsigned radio (certainly there seems to be some code to load unsigned radios if something is unlocked) but its reading this separate from the other locks .. Without a exploit however we will not be able to force this w/o JTAG.
Also you ought to note I find CM much more tolerant to the drops then the official rogers firmware (which dropped much more frequently)
Also usually turning airplane mode on.. then off returns the phone to normal operation.......

Thanks for the info, I guess its not worth it/not something we know much/anything about. The reason I was asking was due to the frustration of dealing with rogers over the last few days. I would happily sign the HTC waiver however it won't accept my IMEI for some reason. I've supposedly got a ticket in level 2 regarding this issue now and I was just promised it would be fixed by tomorrow morning so we shall see.
Regarding the 3.XX radio firmware, it does work for me of course but it tends to get into its confused state often, usually once a day or more, at this point the phone thinks its happily connected with 3-4 bars but try to call the phone and it goes to voicemail. I think the radio issue has something to do with switching towers/weak signals, it always seems to happen to me when i'm moving from one area to another (driving) or when i'm an area where service is available but weak (eg in my office @ work). This results in people complaining they can't reach me etc, and while yes it is easy enough to just airplane mode or use 2g/3g flag to fix it, if my phone is in my pocket and I don't know that's not much help. With the latest 2.XX version radio I've had no issues with dropping reception at all the only problem of course is that my data has been dead since about 6hours after I flashed the radio.
I am for the record running CM.

Interesting. I'm glad you posted this, I don't know if this applies to others as well but lately, I've noticed my signal sucking horribly. I rarely (almost never) have a full bar of signal anymore and sometimes, people call me and directly hit voicemail (I'm outside in the open, in the city where it SHOULD WORK FINE). The thing that pisses me off most, is when I'm trying to surf the net and sometimes, it lags or shows 1 bar and is really slow. Most of the time now, it shows 2-3 bars which is lame. I'm using the 3.22 instead of the 6.35 on the magic. Perhaps I'll give 6.35 a try again.. but I already signed the waiver so I don't want to now! ughh
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at this point the phone thinks its happily connected with 3-4 bars but try to call the phone and it goes to voicemail.
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Happens to me often as well. Fortunately though, I've only had a call drop once so far

A friend of mine w/ a 3GS has complained about the same problem. For reference we are in ottawa.

Does the magic radio work on the dream?

Jugstah said:
Does the magic radio work on the dream?
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Um.. probably but who knows if any kernel/rom/recovery is prepared for a dream with a hero radio. . And we do have some reports of issues of magic owners downgrading back to the ebi1 kernel.
The other question is it actually the new 3x radio that is less stable or is it related to something on the rogers network since the 911 patch enforcement. Since as I said the official firmware also drops regularly. (More than the custom rom on the same phone)

I definitively would not rule out rogers as a problem given as i reported a friend of mine with a 3GS is complaining of the same odd issues. That said, i have no issues with the 2.xx firmware. Coincidentally, if i set the 3.x firmware to 2G only, the issue does not seem to happen either.

Oh I know this is irrelevant but I hate rogers.

Rogers/Fido is the only provider has 2G service in Canada...
I tried Bell/Telus and 3G drops even worse than Rogers...
EDGE is much more stable for IM chatting
Every single time when I across DVP/404 3G will drop for sure but EDGE doesnt...
Although Wind Mobile singal is really bad but they never drop if you have strong signal!

FYI still fighting w/ rogers to fix their waiver so i can sign it.

[Q] HTC One S, CM11, and poor data/cell signal (if any)

Hey everybody:
This is kind of a last gasp for me. My HTC One S suffers from the usual that you read about - "Preparing SIM" messages, constant error reports on bootup, random reboots. I honestly hate the phone.
So I installed a custom ROM. I unlocked the bootloader via HTCDEV, then I used the 12/20/13 CM11 (KitKat 4.4.2) with the 12/15 GAPPS.
The phone worked OK except now I was able to see what I've read about, and probably unknowingly experienced with the stock ROM, and that is the phone constantly flipping between Edge, 2g, HSPA, HSPA+, etc.
So, I decided to try a new radio. Did it a million times on my old G2. In order to get S-OFF to update it, I used the RLL to bring it back to stock Jelly Bean, then Moonshine to set S-OFF, SuperCID'd, and restored it with CWM. Then I installed the 1.20.x radio and at that point, all heck breaks lose with the data network connectivity and even cell signal. I might have no cell or data signal. I might have a cell signal with Edge. If I get up and move, it might go to HSPA, then I might lose everything again. This is much more pronounced than what I witnessed when I first installed the CM11 ROM.
I've tried reflashing the original 1.13 radio and it's no better. I went back to the 1.20 radio and even wiped and reflashed CM11 and GAPPS from scratch. Still very inconsistent data connectivity, so I'm not necessarily convinced it's the version of the radio because they're both pretty darned bad including the original version.
Has anybody been through this and gotten it straightened out? This is strange that even going back to the old 1.13 radio doesn't seem to help.
Thanks for any ideas...
Type: HTC One S, S4, S-OFF, SUPERCID
HBOOT: 2.15.4444 (Moonshined)
Image: CM11 (12/20/13 - 4.4.2)
Radio: 1.20.50.05.16_10.31.50.08L

Who is your carrier? If it is TMOUS you will probably need to make some adjustments to your /system/build.prop file. When I flash a new ROM I have to make the following additions/changes before my data connectivity is stable:
Code:
pm.sleep_mode=1
ro.ril.hsdpa.category = 24
ro.ril.hsupa.category = 6
ro.ril.hsxpa = 4
ro.ril.radio.svn=19
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.rule = 0
The setting "ro.ril.fast.dormancy.rule=1" probably already exists in the file, so it will either need to be edited or removed. The other settings should not exist.
The changes that actually allow the phone to maintain a data connection (as I recall) are "ro.ril.radio.svn=19" and "ro.ril.fast.dormancy.rule = 0". "pm.sleep_mode=1" allows the CPU to completely power off, and the "ro.ril.h*" settings set max speeds for different data connections. I'm going off of what I've culled from various posts and forums, so I may be off the mark on some of my descriptions.
Here's one post briefly talking about these settings:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48276115#post48276115
You will need root access and your /system partition will need to be remounted as read-write to make the changes. Ask or search if you need help with those. Of course if you're not on TMOUS, then I have no idea...

Yes, T-Mobile US is my carrier. There's another thing I found. If it go into the phone's testing facility (*#*#4636*#*#), I notice that it's set to WCDMA preferred. If I set it to WCDMA Only and give it a few, it does go to an HSPA/HSPA+ connection. However, that setting appears to be lost between restarts.
What I don't get is that when I first flashed the CM11 ROM, I at least had the intermittent E/2g/3g/HSPA connections. How, if I go into that testing facility, it is stuck on Edge (and more consistent since my last flash). I will read the thread you provided a URL to. Thanks very much!
benyto said:
Who is your carrier? If it is TMOUS you will probably need to make some adjustments to your /system/build.prop file. When I flash a new ROM I have to make the following additions/changes before my data connectivity is stable:
Code:
pm.sleep_mode=1
ro.ril.hsdpa.category = 24
ro.ril.hsupa.category = 6
ro.ril.hsxpa = 4
ro.ril.radio.svn=19
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.rule = 0
The setting "ro.ril.fast.dormancy.rule=1" probably already exists in the file, so it will either need to be edited or removed. The other settings should not exist.
The changes that actually allow the phone to maintain a data connection (as I recall) are "ro.ril.radio.svn=19" and "ro.ril.fast.dormancy.rule = 0". "pm.sleep_mode=1" allows the CPU to completely power off, and the "ro.ril.h*" settings set max speeds for different data connections. I'm going off of what I've culled from various posts and forums, so I may be off the mark on some of my descriptions.
Here's one post briefly talking about these settings:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48276115#post48276115
You will need root access and your /system partition will need to be remounted as read-write to make the changes. Ask or search if you need help with those. Of course if you're not on TMOUS, then I have no idea...
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OK, I did these build.prop edits. Unfortunately, they've gotten me nothing. Then I went and investigated them a bit more and tried two other minor changes to build.prop (one of your parameters and added another). I'm still stuck on the Edge network. If you do a lookup, you'll see plenty of others. I think this phone is pretty much worthless - as it's been from day one. It will be my last HTC phone. By contrast, my old G1 and G2 are still working. There are tons of reports about One S phones suffering serious issues like this.
I appreciate your help and certainly, if anybody has a eureka moment, I'd love to hear about it. For the time being, I'll most likely see about getting my old G2 reactivated. Others have reported that the only way they've gotten this fixed is sending it back to HTC under warranty. Mine is out of warranty, which is the only reason I decided I'd do it. It was such a bad phone, I had nothing to lose. The next one I buy will most likely be the Moto X.
Thanks again for the help. I absolutely appreciate it.
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Yes, T-Mobile US is my carrier. There's another thing I found. If I go into the phone's testing facility (*#*#4636#*#*), I notice that it's set to WCDMA preferred. If I set it to WCDMA Only and give it a few, it does go to an HSPA/HSPA+ connection. However, that setting appears to be lost between restarts.
What I don't get is that when I first flashed the CM11 ROM, I at least had the intermittent E/2g/3g/HSPA connections. How, if I go into that testing facility, it is stuck on Edge (and more consistent since my last flash). I will read the thread you provided a URL to. Thanks very much!
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Sorry I can't be of more help. I'm still fairly new to this phone, but I quite like it. I suppose I've been more fortunate than others in that I haven't had any real problems with it.

It's not a problem and I'm grateful for you trying. The information you provided was also interesting from a learning perspective.
I reran the RUU on it, just to see if it would make any difference. This made it so I USUALLY have 2g connectivity, but that's as far as it goes and it's not good enough. I have lost that at times, but for the main part, it's consistent with 2g.
T-Mobile is sending me a new SIM to get my old G2 reactivated. While it's only about a quarter of the One S speed, it'll suffice. Unfortunately, the SIM it had couldn't be used because too much time had elapsed since the phones last use. That should be here Monday and that particular phone was WAY more tolerant of different images and radios (knock on wood!). It's currently running a Jelly Belly image of Android 4.2.2 (if I remember), so this should be interesting.
As for my HTC One S, I'll most likely give it to my son to use for games and media. With nothing more than 2g speeds, it's worthless to me. This phone has been a complete and utter piece of garbage since the day I got it. It's funny that my excellent experience with the T-Mobile G1 and G2 by HTC was my reason for buying the One S over a Samsung model. Now that phone is the reason I won't be getting another HTC. Strange how that works.
Again, thanks VERY much for the help!
benyto said:
Sorry I can't be of more help. I'm still fairly new to this phone, but I quite like it. I suppose I've been more fortunate than others in that I haven't had any real problems with it.
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Weird, I had a desire z (same phone as g2) and it had really bad reception while holding it. Would lose all signal in the house. All my other phones used have been fine and pretty well equal - nexus one, desire hd, one s, my girlfriend's iPhone are all about the same.
This summer at a cottage my sister gs3 had no service all week, same network and the one s and iPhone
4s both could squeak some signal if you didn't touch them. A slight edge going to the iPhone most of the time I think.
Probably either a radio issue with that phone on your provider or defective hardware?
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It's not the provider (T-Mobile). My wife's Samsung has 4g here in the house - no issues. I took the One S out and had 2g everywhere. It's the phone.
I'm also guessing it's most likely the radio, as in a bad chip. Once you try to burn a new firmware into it, it finishes it off. Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly no engineer. It may or may not be that, or may be WAY more involved. Some people said the only way they got it fixed was by HTC replacing the main board.
The phone was a POS even before installing a custom ROM. Random reboots, constant startups with messages asking if I wanted to report the errors to HTC, random instances of NO data connectivity and then a message saying the phone is "Preparing the SIM card". I finally realize now that the occasional drops I would get while working remotely in Mexico (using a Movistar SIM) were most likely a result of this thing losing it's data connectivity while "Preparing the SIM card." The issues with this phone and the fact that it was out of warranty were the only reasons I took a chance on installing a custom ROM.
I'm sorry that I most likely sound like I'm ranting. However, I've searched all over and found SO MANY issues with this phone, that there's no way they should NOT have been recalled. Even T-Mobile told me there were many reported issues with these things. Both companies failed their customers.
350Rocket said:
Weird, I had a desire z (same phone as g2) and it had really bad reception while holding it. Would lose all signal in the house. All my other phones used have been fine and pretty well equal - nexus one, desire hd, one s, my girlfriend's iPhone are all about the same.
This summer at a cottage my sister gs3 had no service all week, same network and the one s and iPhone
4s both could squeak some signal if you didn't touch them. A slight edge going to the iPhone most of the time I think.
Probably either a radio issue with that phone on your provider or defective hardware?
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Here in Canada we don't even have 2g on Telus, Bell, virgin mobile and koodo (I am on Telus), so the several phones that seem to have network problems on 2g or switching back And forth only have those issues on Rogers/fido or the small carriers like wind.
A guy I knew from highschool years ago works at fido and I remember him telling me last year this phone had some reception issues.
When telus had this phone on their website still they had pretty well all 5 star reviews. So my phone would probably be a piece of **** on a 2g/3g network too luckily they work perfectly on hspa only.
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Interesting. It's nice to have the option in the case of there ONLY being Edge/2g/3g service available, but not to be stuck on it when HSPA is there.
350Rocket said:
Here in Canada we don't even have 2g on Telus, Bell, virgin mobile and koodo (I am on Telus), so the several phones that seem to have network problems on 2g or switching back And forth only have those issues on Rogers/fido or the small carriers like wind.
A guy I knew from highschool years ago works at fido and I remember him telling me last year this phone had some reception issues.
When telus had this phone on their website still they had pretty well all 5 star reviews. So my phone would probably be a piece of **** on a 2g/3g network too luckily they work perfectly on hspa only.
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True, at least around here though the amount of area without service for Telus/bell or Rogers seems to be pretty equal. So I'm happy not to have the issues with switching between 2g, 3g and LTE. It's hspa or hspa I guess.
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