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Hey everyone,
I got an AT&T Fuze (Touch Pro) and Im using it on Fido in Canada. My data is working perfectly fine, my only issue is that my phone keeps switching from 3G to H every once in a while, I was just wondering why and whats the reason for that?
Also, I have a little exclamation mark (in a yellow triangle) in the top right hand corner right beside the 3G/H/E Icon. I don't know why thats there?
Thanks to all for the help!
No, that's neither yours nor your phone issues. Once you' re in the better speed coverage, the phone will jump to H or your phone is accessing the internet.
"little exclamation mark" is a "roaming" indicator.
Heres the thing, it jumps back and forth while even accessing/using data.
Is there anyway to get rid of the exclamation mark?
have you flashed the rom?
I would be interested in how to get rid of the roaming icon too.
I have tried all the registry changes to no avail. The icon, and roaming warnings for things like the weather app, remain. It's about the last thing I need to fix but I seem to be stuck.
Im using RRE's ROM. So far it seems to have fixed itself, but now Im having more issues. I wonder if I should flash to a different ROM.
Hi guys,
I have a somewhat related problem and I hope someone can help me out. I just recently bought an unlocked HTC Touch Pro (not the Fuze version) and I am using it with my Fido sim card. Everything works and I was able to setup EDGE on it, but what bothers me is it keeps saying that I am roaming (for example when I access the Weather app). I am wondering if this is just some sort of a glitch due to the phone being unlocked or am I really roaming? I also get that roaming icon at the top. I am located in Vancouver so I am not out of town or anything. I just want to make sure so I don't end up having a crazy invoice by the end of the month. Thanks very much in advance.
mu061686 said:
Hi guys,
I have a somewhat related problem and I hope someone can help me out. I just recently bought an unlocked HTC Touch Pro (not the Fuze version) and I am using it with my Fido sim card. Everything works and I was able to setup EDGE on it, but what bothers me is it keeps saying that I am roaming (for example when I access the Weather app). I am wondering if this is just some sort of a glitch due to the phone being unlocked or am I really roaming? I also get that roaming icon at the top. I am located in Vancouver so I am not out of town or anything. I just want to make sure so I don't end up having a crazy invoice by the end of the month. Thanks very much in advance.
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It's because Fido uses Roger's towers now, but the companies are still identified separately and therefore it thinks you're roaming. As long as you have a data plan, you should be ok.
PS. Depending where in Vancouver you are, you should be getting at least 3G (3G), or hopefully HSDPA (H), vs Edge (E).
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It's because Fido uses Roger's towers now, but the companies are still identified separately and therefore it thinks you're roaming. As long as you have a data plan, you should be ok.
PS. Depending where in Vancouver you are, you should be getting at least 3G (3G), or hopefully HSDPA (H), vs Edge (E).
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xda_fanboy, thank you very much for the helpful information. I can finally stop worrying. I do have a data plan with Fido so that should do. However, this is the second day of using the Touch Pro and the only data network I get is Edge. The only setup I did to my phone is what is listed in http://www.iday.ca/2008/11/how-to-setup-rogers-or-fido.html, under the Fido section. Would you mind taking a look and see if that is all that I need to do? I really appreciate all your help. Thanks again.
mu061686 said:
xda_fanboy, thank you very much for the helpful information. I can finally stop worrying. I do have a data plan with Fido so that should do. However, this is the second day of using the Touch Pro and the only data network I get is Edge. The only setup I did to my phone is what is listed in http://www.iday.ca/2008/11/how-to-setup-rogers-or-fido.html, under the Fido section. Would you mind taking a look and see if that is all that I need to do? I really appreciate all your help. Thanks again.
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Please see my post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3192894&postcount=3 and see if it helps. I believe you also need to go into Settings>Connections>Advanced Network and enable HSDPA/HSUPA to get the full benefit.
mu061686 said:
xda_fanboy, thank you very much for the helpful information. I can finally stop worrying. I do have a data plan with Fido so that should do. However, this is the second day of using the Touch Pro and the only data network I get is Edge. The only setup I did to my phone is what is listed in http://www.iday.ca/2008/11/how-to-setup-rogers-or-fido.html, under the Fido section. Would you mind taking a look and see if that is all that I need to do? I really appreciate all your help. Thanks again.
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I also have this phone and live in Vancouver on Fido. I don't think it will work on 3G, or so it seems. Mine is not the ATT version either, just the stock HTC. Currently it runs fine on the standard network, although as mentioned i have not been able to get rid of the roaming icon, but have never been charged extra. Its too bad we can't use it on 3G, and if any can find a way, that would be awesome, id love to be using the full potential of this phone.
I think we are stuck with no 3G, unless there are any suggestions?
If your not using the AT&T Fuze, then you won't have 3G in North America. Don't worry about the roaming icon. Since the phone (or is it the software?) has no idea that Fido uses Rogers' towers, it thinks your roaming. I have the roaming icon as well, had it on many non-branded Fido phones.
I turned off 3G because I hate seeing my icon go to 3G then H at random times besides when Im using actual data and it seems that with 3G, I get worse reception! Makes no sense I know, I've tried 3 different radio's and all have the same issue. Im thinking if an HTC Touch Diamond Rogers branded Radio will work, then that would probably work the best. Anybody know if/where I can get it?
Professional Help PLEASSSE!!!! HTC TOUCH PRO Rogers wireless!!
I Cant get my phone to use HSPDA or 3G high speed internet. Its only working with EDGE.
Now ive been reading these forums, but i have no clue how to get the correct rom for my device, nor do i know how toeven install it or set it up if i did.
I know people are busy these days but if SOMEONE OUT THERE can please walk me through it step by step...ill marry you (only if ur a chick i dont swing those ways!!!!)
Id love to get the full potential out of my phone please help me...
HTC TOUCH PRO
ROGERS WIRELESS
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I Cant get my phone to use HSPDA or 3G high speed internet. Its only working with EDGE.
Now ive been reading these forums, but i have no clue how to get the correct rom for my device, nor do i know how toeven install it or set it up if i did.
I know people are busy these days but if SOMEONE OUT THERE can please walk me through it step by step...ill marry you (only if ur a chick i dont swing those ways!!!!)
Id love to get the full potential out of my phone please help me...
HTC TOUCH PRO
ROGERS WIRELESS
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If you bought a stock HTC Touch Pro (non-ATT, non-North American) then you won't have the NA 3G radio frequency and you're stuck with Edge.
Regarding a ROM, head over to the ROM sub-forum. There's a step-by-step guide on flashing your first ROM. As far as which ROM is best, it depends entirely on what you want from it, and even then varies by personal choice from person to person. There is no 1 "best" ROM. Check out all the ROM threads (there's a Roger's specific ROM available FYI) and pick one based on what you like.
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If you bought a stock HTC Touch Pro (non-ATT, non-North American) then you won't have the NA 3G radio frequency and you're stuck with Edge.
Regarding a ROM, head over to the ROM sub-forum. There's a step-by-step guide on flashing your first ROM. As far as which ROM is best, it depends entirely on what you want from it, and even then varies by personal choice from person to person. There is no 1 "best" ROM. Check out all the ROM threads (there's a Roger's specific ROM available FYI) and pick one based on what you like.
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I have a similar problem as Speng2, but I have the HTC Fuze which is the american ATT branded one. I unlocked it, flashed the NATF 4.7 rom and tried many diff radios and can never get more than EDGE. I used to have 3g when it was stock. I live in Los Angeles which is a 3g area. I get full edge signal but no 3g or HSPDA. I have a feeling it has to do with a setting. Pls help.
ipisbored said:
I have a similar problem as Speng2, but I have the HTC Fuze which is the american ATT branded one. I unlocked it, flashed the NATF 4.7 rom and tried many diff radios and can never get more than EDGE. I used to have 3g when it was stock. I live in Los Angeles which is a 3g area. I get full edge signal but no 3g or HSPDA. I have a feeling it has to do with a setting. Pls help.
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This thread was specifically for Fido, a Canadian carrier. I have no knowledge of the settings you will require for your carrier in LA, which is the most likely reason you are not getting 3G. I would try contacting them if you haven't already. Otherwise try and find a thread for your carrier, or perhaps check HF (not sure if we can post URL's to other sites). Good luck!
What if you dont have a data plan
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It's because Fido uses Roger's towers now, but the companies are still identified separately and therefore it thinks you're roaming. As long as you have a data plan, you should be ok.
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What if you don't have a data plan? It seems that sypod has not been charged extra for Roaming... Does anyone know how Roaming works with FIDO? I just got the HTC FUZE and I don't want to have to pay outrageous Roaming charges. Any Ideas?
Story: we all have HTC's at work. My service manager with the Touch Diamond (Verizon) is running a radio to use Sprint cell towers in our area (which outnumbers all others). I was wondering if that was possible for the G1. He's running WM 6.5 and Android on it.
No,there is not one for the g1...yet. But even if there was...i think it would require extra hardware
i was thinking to flash the radio he used the same way i did when i updated to the rc33 radio. i believe he has the latest radios for att, verizon, and sprint. that's why I decided to ask just in case.
thanks
Hey, if you have hardspl installed,and the rc29 DREAIMG.NBH on your sdcard,you can give it a shot and see and give us results(i need sprint even tho i have tmobile,only 3g in area is spring)
I'll give it a try on Tuesday. That was my main purpose in inquiring. Seeming as to how Sprint had like more cell towers than all others combined. And he's been using it with much satisfaction.
otto888 said:
Hey, if you have hardspl installed,and the rc29 DREAIMG.NBH on your sdcard,you can give it a shot and see and give us results(i need sprint even tho i have tmobile,only 3g in area is spring)
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in this works i might have a heart attack, i really would love to get on the att towers for 3G
Sprint & Verizon use CDMA, T-Mobile & AT&T use GSM.
This, unfortunately, is not possible.
i just put a radio that was used for the Kaiser onto my dream and immediately i noticed a difference in the camera speed. almost as soon as i pressed the camera button it took the picture. i used radio 1.71.09.01 all you need to do is extract the .zip from the download, and open the .nbh in a hex editor. then i saved it as radio.img and placed it in the update.zip that contains the latest radio for the g1. then i resigned it and flashed it and voila i have a new faster radio on my phone. over the next few days i will run some speed tests on the local edge network and different radios to see which one works best in the stl area. but i am freaking excited to see that i tried something and it worked.
When I get to work I'll ask if he tried the ATT radio yet.
Manacit said:
Sprint & Verizon use CDMA, T-Mobile & AT&T use GSM.
This, unfortunately, is not possible.
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tubaking182 said:
i just put a radio that was used for the Kaiser onto my dream and immediately i noticed a difference in the camera speed. almost as soon as i pressed the camera button it took the picture. i used radio 1.71.09.01 all you need to do is extract the .zip from the download, and open the .nbh in a hex editor. then i saved it as radio.img and placed it in the update.zip that contains the latest radio for the g1. then i resigned it and flashed it and voila i have a new faster radio on my phone. over the next few days i will run some speed tests on the local edge network and different radios to see which one works best in the stl area. but i am freaking excited to see that i tried something and it worked.
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Mind sharing the update.zip? i have edge and 3g towers in my area and would be glad to test.
otto888 said:
Mind sharing the update.zip? i have edge and 3g towers in my area and would be glad to test.
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unfortunately we can't get 3G from at&t as they run 3g on the 850 & 1900 mhz range, and the G1 only gets edge in that range. the G1 is set to recieve hsdpa(3G) in the 1700 and 2100 range. kinda sucks but if at&t rolls out into the 1700(download) and 2100(upload) then we can steal 3G since t-mo has failed me in getting 3G into my area.
on a side note anybody have an updated roll out schedule for 3G in 2009 for t-mo?
apparently since i am using my phone as a tether right now i can't upload my update.zip. but following the steps above should work. or PM me your email and i should be able to send it to you that way
go to Kaiser ROM development and search for "ultimate radio thread" and you will find a list of all the radios that work on the kaiser, each of them are mirrored to an external site, and you can download from there
just installed the radio you sent me,internet on edge and gprs is faster,but drains battery quicker.... But now i have another reason to get a extra battery!
I'm not testing the battery life of the phone each time, just speed testing right after flash and taking a pic to test the lag on that. Those that wanna try new radios be warned I can't tell you what radio will work best for you, I can only tell you what works for me. All problems that you come across after flashing are your faukt. I do not want 100 PMs from people asking how to fix it just cause I tried it
would one be able to extract the radio from the iphone 3g if one had the latest firmware? i have much time, and don't mind give it a try. battery life isn't a problem. have a 1600mAH for lounge nights and the 2600 for wtf (work time fun!)
if you wanted to try it it couldn't hurt to see, we aren't going to get 3G unless we have t-mo 3G in the area. but i am curious to know what the radio from the iphone would do on this phone. try it oud and look for speed test in the market and use that to test the download and upload speed. it's what i have been using, and that way we get one program doing all the tests for us and so we should all have the same margin of error
I took a look at the iphone firmare, looks like you need a Mac. Most of the files that look like ones to use are in .dmg format, here's the link to the newest firmware http://www.iphonefirmware.com/firmwares-download/ to extract the files, just download the file, and change the extension to .zip
CDMA is much different as it uses a PRL, or Preferred Roaming List to decide what towers to connect to based on roaming agreements that carriers make. I remember when I was with Verizon, you could dial *226 SEND and it would connect you to a system that would download the latest PRL to your device. Sometimes it would result in better service, other times not. The equivalent to a PRL in GSM is stored in what I believe is a write-protected area of the SIM Card.
Sadley I have to agree with you Datruesurfer, but if I may the code for vzw, I worked there till Jan of this yr, is *228. Unfortunately you have read correctly, I did some research on this a while back when I bought my sim reader. All the info for the towers are stored on the sim for GSM/3G as some like to use, although part of the info is stored in the phone as part of the firmware, this I figured out, because I see 2 not one AT&T in my net ops at all times, and my sim is a brand new 3G compatible sim. The reason for this is one of them is for Edge/GPRS, and the Other has 3G also incorporated. Unfortunately as of the moment I can only connect to the one that is Edge/GPRS.
card13 said:
I took a look at the iphone firmare, looks like you need a Mac. Most of the files that look like ones to use are in .dmg format, here's the link to the newest firmware http://www.iphonefirmware.com/firmwares-download/ to extract the files, just download the file, and change the extension to .zip
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if i go out tomorrow i will get better internet(only option at home is to use my phone as a tether), and i will download and convert the .dmg to a .iso and have a look see. to be honest i don't know what to look for but i certainly wanna look around. this is the most work i have ever done with a phone. when i had my kaiser everyone else seemed to know a whole lot more than me and i felt left out and i never could help anyone, here in the dream forums i feel like i accomplish something every day
Well, I'm going to a 3g area today with the krazer radio...will report back results.
Before(from memory): download was about the same as edge...upload....well...you cant test that on a g1.
After: 149kb/s download
Edit: i also have a new sim card that customer care says its "made for 3g"...I guess we will see.
I would like to open discussion on developing a permanent fix for the horrible bug with Android 2.1 CDMA devices defaulting to a Preferred Network of GSM. My goal will be to develop a script or app that will either run at boot, via a cronjob, or as an icon/widget on the homescreen that will set the Preferred Network to CDMA.
The "Testing" app (*#*#4636#*#*) looks to be /system/bin/iqd. I have used strace to capture what the process is doing when the Preferred Network is properly set to CDMA, but I could not decipher it (didn't see any I/O on any files, only RAM). I've attached my log in case someone else can make sense of it.
This is the #1 issue on my Evo, and the only thing I have done to notice any change in battery life, and the difference is absolutely huge. Without applying this fix after EVERY reboot, I only get 4 hours max out of my phone. After applying the fix, I get 8-12 hours, which is actually reasonable. This desperately needs a permanent fix, and I can't imagine I am alone here.
Cheers!
This seems like a great idea.
I just checked my phone, it's set to CDMA auto. I am running fully stock, but rooted and unlocked.
Rayden1000
I just checked as well and this does not seem to be an issue with me. Mine is already set to CDMA(Auto). I have fresh installed and I also checked on my brothers stock Evo.
Actually I think everyone is affected by this problem.
Go to *#*#4636#*#* , phone info, and you will see that it says CDMA.
So far so good. Now, hit menu and then choose select radio band. and you will see a force close,don't panic now you will be back at the menu, hit phone information again and you will see that now it says GSM! choose cdma and hit back, done.
Now, I'm not sure if that actually does anything for battery life, as the phone doesn't even have a GSM radio. I think its just a pointless HTC bug from the hero days since android did not have native cdma, so HTC had to hack it in.
The purpose of this thread is not to determine whether or not you are affected by the bug. There are tons of other threads discussing that. If your "Time without Signal" value is excessively high (usually around 50%), you are affected, and are only getting about half of the potential battery life from your device (for Evos, it makes the device nearly non-functional because it won't last through a day. A friend also confirmed this on his Incredible, and now gets 2 days out of his battery instead of 1).
Let's limit this thread to only those who are affected by the issue and those looking for a solution. Thanks!
Now, has anyone taken a look at my strace log? Or does anyone have any idea where/how the phone's radio values are set? I noticed some references to "ciq-backend," perhaps this is a deamon, service, or command that we could tap into. Any ideas?
zeuzinn said:
Now, I'm not sure if that actually does anything for battery life, as the phone doesn't even have a GSM radio.
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It absolutely has a huge affect on my battery as well as two of my friends' Evos (two are 0002, one is 0003), although I can't speak for all Evo owners. We all experience the same 4-5 hours battery life without the fix, and 8-12 hours with the fix applied. It's just such a pain in the butt to do it EVERY time the phone reboots.
well, its not the fix you are looking for, BUT, i have found that it makes changing this after a reboot MUCH easier.
Download an app called simply "network" from the market.
It gets you right into the test menu, and then you can hit select radio band and complete the process from there.
I think this should be something that could be built into roms but not sure... Also.. i am still not sure that by do doing hte select radio and getting the FC, that THIS isnt what is causing use to see it come up as GSM. No proof of that other than just the thought, but it could be like a default that after the FC causes to revert to (but i did notice better batter life after it than before and its something i have dont on every rom every time i reboot since it was discoverd.
Hope the network app helps a little until there is a permanent solution!
Thanks for noticing this.
I am having the same issue and i have HORRIBLE battery life. Im getting close to my 30 days and might want to switch this evo in for a newer one, but I dont want to lose root.
If i can get some more battery life out of this... I might just be a little happier.
I get like 12-15 without the fix and moderate usage and wifi/GPS on all the time (no 4g tho), but I tried changing it and we'll find out if it's any better.
4-5 hours has to be an exaggeration unless it's something to do with 4g :\
Its a big bug on htc phones and it will say cdma but its really on gsm.. some roms will get a "time without signal" which does drain a ton off battery cuz the phone is looking for a gsm network constantly and in a sense is roaming on cdma. We just dont see anything to do with roaming cuz its suppose to be our defaulted network.
Also we dont have a full gsm radio but we can connect to gsm networks.
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Jus10o said:
Its a big bug on htc phones and it will say cdma but its really on gsm.. some roms will get a "time without signal" which does drain a ton off battery cuz the phone is looking for a gsm network constantly and in a sense is roaming on cdma. We just dont see anything to do with roaming cuz its suppose to be our defaulted network.
Also we dont have a full gsm radio but we can connect to gsm networks.
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We can connect to GSM networks on this phone? I am confused, where have I been lol?
No these phones cannot be used on gsm.
Yes I do see that now after I hit the menu and selected the band and it does seem to be an issue. My time without signal is around 45% which is insane considering I've had full bars all day. If we can figure some way to auto set this it would be great.
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frettfreak said:
well, its not the fix you are looking for, BUT, i have found that it makes changing this after a reboot MUCH easier.
Download an app called simply "network" from the market.
It gets you right into the test menu, and then you can hit select radio band and complete the process from there.
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What option should we use when setting this app? Ive tried to use wcdma only but then I HAVE problems making regular phone calls.
zeuzinn said:
Actually I think everyone is affected by this problem.
Go to *#*#4636#*#* , phone info, and you will see that it says CDMA.
So far so good. Now, hit menu and then choose select radio band. and you will see a force close,don't panic now you will be back at the menu, hit phone information again and you will see that now it says GSM! choose cdma and hit back, done.
Now, I'm not sure if that actually does anything for battery life, as the phone doesn't even have a GSM radio. I think its just a pointless HTC bug from the hero days since android did not have native cdma, so HTC had to hack it in.
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Ok, Im new to this issue. I just read the entire thread but when i hit menu and FC then hit phone information again it still says cdma auto. Is it because im using the froyo rom?
getting this problem, will be following this thread and will help if needed...
liquidhaste said:
Ok, Im new to this issue. I just read the entire thread but when i hit menu and FC then hit phone information again it still says cdma auto. Is it because im using the froyo rom?
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If this is fixed with froyo, then its time to make the switch to a rom from fresh for me.
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Wcdma is a gsm network setting. You want to use cdma only or cdma (prl).
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I am using EvolutionX, I went through the force close and went in again, it says CDMA still. No mention of GSM
zeuzinn said:
Actually I think everyone is affected by this problem.
Go to *#*#4636#*#* , phone info, and you will see that it says CDMA.
So far so good. Now, hit menu and then choose select radio band. and you will see a force close,don't panic now you will be back at the menu, hit phone information again and you will see that now it says GSM! choose cdma and hit back, done.
Now, I'm not sure if that actually does anything for battery life, as the phone doesn't even have a GSM radio. I think its just a pointless HTC bug from the hero days since android did not have native cdma, so HTC had to hack it in.
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Mine has never been GSM. It has always veeb cdma auto
I seem to be having an issue with my data and am trying to narrow down the reasons for my problem. The issue is I CANNOT use HSUPA (H) for data, I always get a connection timed out issue. I put the phone in 2G GSM mode only and have data working, but of course I was spoiled with better speed I can't stand it.
My question is if AT&T could be doing upgrades to the towers in my area, will that affect my speeds, or is something broken internally in my phone. When I select WCDMA mode, it takes FOREVER for it to connect and says searching for a long time but does connect or displays (H) with 3/4 bars of signal. My friend has an unrooted captivate on 3G and has no issue with data. Does anyone know the cause of this.
I have tried a few different modems (jl3, jk4, kp1....) all the same and have tried 2 different OS's with same data timed out issues while trying to use (H). I am currently in the process of flashing back to stock to see if that will resolve the issue. Thank you for your time guys.
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I seem to be having an issue with my data and am trying to narrow down the reasons for my problem. The issue is I CANNOT use HSUPA (H) for data, I always get a connection timed out issue. I put the phone in 2G GSM mode only and have data working, but of course I was spoiled with better speed I can't stand it.
My question is if AT&T could be doing upgrades to the towers in my area, will that affect my speeds, or is something broken internally in my phone. When I select WCDMA mode, it takes FOREVER for it to connect and says searching for a long time but does connect or displays (H) with 3/4 bars of signal. My friend has an unrooted captivate on 3G and has no issue with data. Does anyone know the cause of this.
I have tried a few different modems (jl3, jk4, kp1....) all the same and have tried 2 different OS's with same data timed out issues while trying to use (H). I am currently in the process of flashing back to stock to see if that will resolve the issue. Thank you for your time guys.
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H doesn't necessary mean HSUPA. It simply means HSPA (HSDPA only or HSDPA and HSUPA). You didn't mention anything about your firmware but I guess you are experiment with non-Captivate firmware and modem combination trying to get HDUPA working. From what you described, it seems your current firmware and modem combinations lacks 850MHz support for 3G (most European firmwares lacks 850Mhz) and your local tower happens to use 850MHz, not 1900Mhz. Just a guess.
Make sure you have the modern set to proper frequency (WCDMA 850 or 1900) for your area. The modem thread can tell you all about how to do it.
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Sorry guys, I guess that was an important part I forgot. I was running Andromeda and thought the same so tried Cognition 4.1.1. Also after going to stock 2.1 I still have the data issue. I can connect to wifi just fine, but no using ATT data will work.
I called customer service and walked through the steps as usual and after some looking into my area, he said there were 3 towers reporting severely degraded. It just sucks seeing my friends phones working with no issues. He said that repairs are stated to be finished sometime in the next few days and to call back later in the week if the problem persists.
Looks like you tried both i897ROM and non-i897 ROM, so it's not firmware related.
Did you try to put someone else's SIM into ur captivate? How about some other devices in ur area?
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Looks like you tried both i897ROM and non-i897 ROM, so it's not firmware related.
Did you try to put someone else's SIM into ur captivate? How about some other devices in ur area?
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I didn't think about trying my friends sim card. I will test tomorrow morning. Ty for the idea to isolate the problem to my phone!
umm not really related to your phone. but im suggesting its the tower upgrades getting them ready for 4G that is causing your phone to act up. i have a HD2 and we have 3G down here. but since early march i get nothing but EDGE. what happens in the month march? AT&T will be launching 4G in selected markets. it was confirmed once i was talking to a AT&T tech. so im just waiting to see what happens in the end of this month.
NOTE: it could also be your sim card having problems. AT&T replaced mine thinking it was a problem with the sim card since i have a AT&T native W350 and i was getting the same problems. call them up again and ask to talk to a tech and tell them your having a problem with your sim card. they will set you up a appointment at a corporate store. free of charge.
I did not think that the Captivate's hardware was capable of HSUPA?
Is it?
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I did not think that the Captivate's hardware was capable of HSUPA?
Is it?
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there is a thread on how enabling HSUPA on the captivate. so if we can enable it im sure its capable.
heres the link if you want to read up on How to enable HSUPA on the Samsung Captivate
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I did not think that the Captivate's hardware was capable of HSUPA?
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it is capable but att blocks it to save bandwidth
hmm,
That thread has not been updated for a long time...
What would happen if I flashed that i9000 modem with a KB1 based Kernel?
sal2708 said:
there is a thread on how enabling HSUPA on the captivate. so if we can enable it im sure its capable.
heres the link if you want to read up on How to enable HSUPA on the Samsung Captivate
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What would happen if I flashed that i9000 modem with a KB1 based Kernel?
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you would have data, but no voice
Sorry for nor replying sooner. My 3G data seems to be working again. My lack of in depth knowledge is why I put the hsupa above when my phone displayed H I didn't know what to call it.
It must have been tower upgrades. I didn't restart my phone and left it on the charger overnight and the next morning I had no issues. I did a reboot of the phone as a test and connected with data with no issue. Too bad as I was close to getting a replacement, though it would suck and be my luck to get one with other issues. Mine is a 1007 and works perfect (other than the obvious GPS.)
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Pirateghost said:
you would have data, but no voice
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That is what I thought, thanks!
AT&T customer, midwest United States here. I live in a fringe area, but have always been able to get reception.... until I rooted and started running custom ROMS. It seems some ROMS, for whatever reason, get better radio reception than others.
I tried Viper, and while it was the best for reception, there were a lot of things that gave me trouble and I couldnt live with.
The CM ROMS wont even think about getting reception for me, unless the mobile data is turned on, and then are very erratic. I leave the data turned off when at home due to it always looking and searching and killing my battery. Well, that, and I always use wifi at home. I even tried the newer 3.18 AT&T radio, but it didnt help
Any suggestions as to a ROM that is known for reception? Or a specific AT&T Radio that is better for reception? While I knew different ROMS had different good/bad points... I didnt know the reception was on of those things.
Thanks
SilverFox66 said:
AT&T customer, midwest United States here. I live in a fringe area, but have always been able to get reception.... until I rooted and started running custom ROMS. It seems some ROMS, for whatever reason, get better radio reception than others.
I tried Viper, and while it was the best for reception, there were a lot of things that gave me trouble and I couldnt live with.
The CM ROMS wont even think about getting reception for me, unless the mobile data is turned on, and then are very erratic. I leave the data turned off when at home due to it always looking and searching and killing my battery. Well, that, and I always use wifi at home. I even tried the newer 3.18 AT&T radio, but it didnt help
Any suggestions as to a ROM that is known for reception? Or a specific AT&T Radio that is better for reception? While I knew different ROMS had different good/bad points... I didnt know the reception was on of those things.
Thanks
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Most roms don't touch the radio firmware flash one after another and see what works best for your area
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31ken31 said:
Most roms don't touch the radio firmware flash one after another and see what works best for your area
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There sure is a big difference for some reason, with me anyway. The only 2 radios I have found in the Radio thread for AT&T without the RIL (senseless ROMS) is the 2.20 and 3.18 radios. I have bounced back and forth between them, and not seen any difference to speak of. The 3.18 seems to be the more erratic of the 2, for me anyway
SilverFox66 said:
AT&T customer, midwest United States here. I live in a fringe area, but have always been able to get reception.... until I rooted and started running custom ROMS. It seems some ROMS, for whatever reason, get better radio reception than others.
I tried Viper, and while it was the best for reception, there were a lot of things that gave me trouble and I couldnt live with.
The CM ROMS wont even think about getting reception for me, unless the mobile data is turned on, and then are very erratic. I leave the data turned off when at home due to it always looking and searching and killing my battery. Well, that, and I always use wifi at home. I even tried the newer 3.18 AT&T radio, but it didnt help
Any suggestions as to a ROM that is known for reception? Or a specific AT&T Radio that is better for reception? While I knew different ROMS had different good/bad points... I didnt know the reception was on of those things.
Thanks
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My advice would be to try a different radio until you get one that works for you. I work out of state so I have to change settings to wcdma only to make them work in the area. I use the 3.18 radios on both CM and Sense because they work best in my home area. Viper is based on 3.17.661.2 so AT&T 2.20 may be the best option to try.
I use 2.41 seems 80% of the others I've tried plain suck in my area
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When flashing radios for CM, also be sure that you are flashing the ones designated strictly for CM as the radio fw is kept in another partition than sense. I've never had an issue finding a radio that works for me. They don't all work well but at least 1 always does. When looking for the best radio, I download them all, test them one at a time, marking the signal strength and speedtest results for each and then flash back to the radio that gave me the best results.
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I use 2.41 seems 80% of the others I've tried plain suck in my area
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Isnt that for a sense based ROM? I havent seen 2.41 listed for anything other than a sense ROM
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My advice would be to try a different radio until you get one that works for you. I work out of state so I have to change settings to wcdma only to make them work in the area. I use the 3.18 radios on both CM and Sense because they work best in my home area. Viper is based on 3.17.661.2 so AT&T 2.20 may be the best option to try.
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Yeah, changing to WCDMA helped a little, but not much
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When flashing radios for CM, also be sure that you are flashing the ones designated strictly for CM as the radio fw is kept in another partition than sense. I've never had an issue finding a radio that works for me. They don't all work well but at least 1 always does. When looking for the best radio, I download them all, test them one at a time, marking the signal strength and speedtest results for each and then flash back to the radio that gave me the best results.
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Im getting the radios out of the radio thread here on XDA. I am d/l the radios in the lower section, for CM. I didnt try a different radio when using Viper, because it was useless seeing as I had so many other issues. I wasnt aware I could use Vodaphone or Telstra radios, on AT&T. I had only tried the 2 AT&T radios. My bad, I will try the others.thanks for the info guys. The speed tests are a moot point for me. As I said, i am in a fringe area. I cant judge anything based on data speed, and leave data turned off most of the time. Im not worried about data speed, or trying to fix anything in that area. Im trying to get my phone to get good enough reception to make/receive calls dependably and send/receive texts dependably. Sorry if there was some confusion over this.
Honestly, I would have stuck with Viper, but my wifi wouldnt work, and I couldnt even get my contacts and calendar imported from my Google account. In fact, there wasnt even a Sync option for contacts. So that was a no go.
Thanks again
The 2.41 he mentioned is not a ROM mate it's a radio.
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timmaaa said:
The 2.41 he mentioned is not a ROM mate it's a radio.
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yeah, I left out the "for"... as in "for a sense based ROM". Sorry, I went back and edited it
Ahh OK no worries
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Isnt that for a sense based ROM? I havent seen 2.41 listed for anything other than a sense ROM
Yeah, changing to WCDMA helped a little, but not much
Im getting the radios out of the radio thread here on XDA. I am d/l the radios in the lower section, for CM. I didnt try a different radio when using Viper, because it was useless seeing as I had so many other issues. I wasnt aware I could use Vodaphone or Telstra radios, on AT&T. I had only tried the 2 AT&T radios. My bad, I will try the others.thanks for the info guys. The speed tests are a moot point for me. As I said, i am in a fringe area. I cant judge anything based on data speed, and leave data turned off most of the time. Im not worried about data speed, or trying to fix anything in that area. Im trying to get my phone to get good enough reception to make/receive calls dependably and send/receive texts dependably. Sorry if there was some confusion over this.
Honestly, I would have stuck with Viper, but my wifi wouldnt work, and I couldnt even get my contacts and calendar imported from my Google account. In fact, there wasnt even a Sync option for contacts. So that was a no go.
Thanks again
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Yeah it's sense based.I run viper most of the time. That's odd what viper version were you running? I'm on my WiFi now and try to not use data connection at home being I have straight talk and had my speed throttled to almost nothing last 2 months. It have have been a bad download
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Try 2.40 radio, I get the best reception down here in Texas with it, especially when I go to the lease.
-Sugardaddy
Ok, I tried just about every radio in my CM ROM, to no avail. Then, on a whim, I ticked "2G Networks Only", and now I have decent phone signal/reception. This sucks though.... to have my data connection have such an affect on my voice signal. I had always left my data turned off when at home, due to being in a fringe area, and it always bouncing around and killing my battery. That, and I always use wifi at home. Now, I have to leave my data turned on, and in 2G mode... just to be able to make a call. Rather silly to me.
Thanks to everyone who offered to help... MUCH appreciated
P.S. when it was said and done, I think I wound up back on the stock radio for Cory's CM ROM (2.20?)
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Ok, I tried just about every radio in my CM ROM, to no avail. Then, on a whim, I ticked "2G Networks Only", and now I have decent phone signal/reception. This sucks though.... to have my data connection have such an affect on my voice signal. I had always left my data turned off when at home, due to being in a fringe area, and it always bouncing around and killing my battery. That, and I always use wifi at home. Now, I have to leave my data turned on, and in 2G mode... just to be able to make a call. Rather silly to me.
Thanks to everyone who offered to help... MUCH appreciated
P.S. when it was said and done, I think I wound up back on the stock radio for Cory's CM ROM (2.20?)
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What does your signal do if you have 2g clicked and then turn on wifi
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31ken31 said:
What does your signal do if you have 2g clicked and then turn on wifi
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signal remains the same... around -87/13, but the Edge "E" icon, disappears from the screen. So, no real difference that I can tell.
It just amazes me that my data connection/type/settings can ruin my voice reception. Hopefully, its going to work decently now.
Good luck with it
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Good luck with it
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thank you! so far, so good! As long as I leave the phone in 2G only, my signal is great. Well, great for my area anyway lol.
With VoLTE being so far out yet, and AT&T not having true 4G, and voice/data being on 2 different frequencies.... how in the world is this happening on this phone? How can enabling/disabling data/4G/2G have such an affect on the voice/text signal? I just cant wrap my mind around this
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thank you! so far, so good! As long as I leave the phone in 2G only, my signal is great. Well, great for my area anyway lol.
With VoLTE being so far out yet, and AT&T not having true 4G, and voice/data being on 2 different frequencies.... how in the world is this happening on this phone? How can enabling/disabling data/4G/2G have such an affect on the voice/text signal? I just cant wrap my mind around this
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I'm no expert by any means but if I were to take a guess, I would say it may be due to limitations of towers that are closer to you? IE: closer towers provide 2G signal but have not been updated to support 4G? and the towers that support 4G are further from you?
Like I said, I'm no expert, I'm merely taking an educated guess based on what I do know about the technology.
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I'm no expert by any means but if I were to take a guess, I would say it may be due to limitations of towers that are closer to you? IE: closer towers provide 2G signal but have not been updated to support 4G? and the towers that support 4G are further from you?
Like I said, I'm no expert, I'm merely taking an educated guess based on what I do know about the technology.
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Actually, I dont know either, but that does make sense. If the phone is in 4G mode, then ti will try to connect to a 4G tower, which could be further away. But, there were times I had a great signal with 4G enabled, but it was in H, or H+.... and wouldnt make a call.
Im just happy I found how to get a decent... steady signal. I love the HOX, and I love the CM ROM... but I was ready to pull my hair out with this lol.
Thanks for the input, I may ask someone at the local store next time Im in. There is one kid in there, that is pretty knowledgeable. I think the rest of them know less than I do lol
Well, I spoke too soon. Now I have good reception, but the quality of my connection SUCKS! I have flashed and tried every radio for CM, and while I have a good signal now (around -85/13) my call quality is terrible and are all fuzzy and fade in and out.
I dunno, Im thinking seriously about going back to stock. I love the idea of having control over my own phone, but Im not in this as a hobby. I just want things to work right. Every ROM I have tried has had one issue or another.... wifi connection issues, wifi going to sleep when it shoudlnt, bluetooth connection problems, a dozen apps starting by themselves, radio/reception issues. Its to the point its just not worth it to me. I dont like having to work on anything every day, and if I do, I feel something needs to change in the situation, if that is the case. Dont get me wrong, Im not slamming any developers, or their projects.
When I was younger, I was always the first to get one of the Celeron CPU's and OC the snot out of it. As I got older, I thought... why? Ill just spend and extra $20 and buy the faster CPU so it is more stable, and not have to mess with anything. Thats sort of how I feel now