I tried upgrading from su 2.6.3.1 to superuser 3.0.7 over the weekend and after flashing 3.0.7 , none of my apps that required root work - is there a way around this [im using the latest update (1.63...)] Id like to update but seems stuck with older version for now - at least it works.
I did see a Superuser elite in the market... does the new version require you to pay for the license to get root (not that its about money but im just curious)?
Also yes there us an "update fixer" which requires root privileges which the new 3.0.7 version doesnt provide so i cant use that.
try flashing su in recovery http://androidsu.com/superuser/
yeah thats exactly what i did...
I rooted my phone long ago and just got the new update so had to reroot it after installation... which seemed to work fine (with the older su-2.6.3.1) but sadly now that i got this nonworking superuser 3.0.7 (elf).zip in my phone none of my apps that need root access work
At this point im trying to figure how to go back to the older version (unless i can get this one working). Was just hoping i dont have to start all over as i cant even seem to reflash the older version - as it now gives me errors. Might just have to wipe the phone and start all over with the update.
But yeah so I updated the latest htc update and had to reroot my phone, I was able to flash the su-2.6.3.1 via CMR and this worked fine. It seems as i should have stopped there as i saw that the 2.6.3.1 is an older version, so i tried flashing the latest 3.0.7 (elf) superuser -(which appeared to install just fine) but now I dont seem to have root anymore (although i see the superuser app - none of my apps that require superuser work). Ideas? Using adb .. I do see proper permissions on su at /system/bin but - for some reason SU is not working.
Did you make regular Nandroid backups?
You should have made a Nandroid backup through CWM after installation of Superuser 2.6.3.1. I take it this isn't the case, because that backup would mean you could perform a factory restore, reflash CWM, and restore the backup. Any time you are making changes to your phone, backup before and along the way, just in case something like this happens. Titanium has its uses, but if your phone environment gets borked and you can't use it, it kind of defeats the purpose. Nandroid backups are more reliable in my book, and aren't app-dependent.
Sounds like you will have to start from scratch, although I'm unsure as to why Superuser 3.0.7 didn't work as expected. Possibly there was a conflict in moving from 2.6.3.1 to the newer version. I don't know of any specific problems 3.0.7 has with the MT4GS, and I'm running it on my phone with the latest binary without any problems. I do get an error message for one app, Quick Boot, when I use it to boot into recovery, but that doesn't stop the app from functioning as expected. I think that difficulty is related to the app itself and not Superuser.
Hopefully someone with a little more Superuser experience will chime in here. I'm afraid I don't have any ideas beyond the above.
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steve_77 said:
It seems as i should have stopped there as i saw that the 2.6.3.1 is an older version, so i tried flashing the latest 3.0.7 (elf) superuser -(which appeared to install just fine) but now I dont seem to have root anymore (although i see the superuser app - none of my apps that require superuser work). Ideas? Using adb .. I do see proper permissions on su at /system/bin but - for some reason SU is not working.
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I had a similar problem before with SU after switching ROMs. Don't know if it might help but with Titanium Backup it showed that I had no busybox so I dl'ed busybox then SU wouldn't allow the apps to gain root access. Couldn't figure out what the problem was at all. Then I went to the SU app then saw that under the apps that were allowed or disallowed root access, the SU app itself was there. Once I deleted it from the list all the other apps that needed access worked fine. Hope that helps...
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You should have made a Nandroid backup through CWM after installation of Superuser 2.6.3.1.
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Yeah i know - as fate would have it this is the one time i did not make a backup yet as i was hoping to gut out all the crap apps before doing a backup. Guess ill need to get more religious with the backups.
manimmal
Yeah i had Titanium Backup running with busy box before i had the "bright" idea to upgrade to 3.0.7 - but i guess i could try that but likely i might have to start-over from scratch (and forget about the 3.0.7 version) - unless anyone has any other ideas.
The only thing I can think of is perhaps the first su was flashed using one version of CMR and the second another version of CMR (updated after i installed rom manager perhaps)?
Even more interesting is the "su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed" with su having a datestamp of 8/17/2010; while the "Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed2" su version has a datestamp of 2/29/2008 - which seems a bit weird....
steve_77 said:
I tried upgrading from su 2.6.3.1 to superuser 3.0.7 over the weekend and after flashing 3.0.7 , none of my apps that required root work - is there a way around this [im using the latest update (1.63...)] Id like to update but seems stuck with older version for now - at least it works.
I did see a Superuser elite in the market... does the new version require you to pay for the license to get root (not that its about money but im just curious)?
Also yes there us an "update fixer" which requires root privileges which the new 3.0.7 version doesnt provide so i cant use that.
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I'm running Superuser v3.0.7 with no problem, I flashed it in recovery. It has the su binary 3.0.3.2.
Fuzi0719 said:
I'm running Superuser v3.0.7 with no problem, I flashed it in recovery. It has the su binary 3.0.3.2.
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do you still have the exact same zip file you used to install 3.0.7 ? (perhaps you have a slightly different one then whats available on the website)
I have no doubt that it works on some peoples devices, but i just dont know why it doesn't work on my device. I am pretty much running stock rom with the latest htc update, CMR 5.0.2.7 , rom manager 5.0.0.6 , superuser 2.3.6.1, su binary 2.3.1-ef - this works ( i have root) but if i boot into recovery and install the latest su for froyo 3.0.7 I loose root. (made nandroid backup this time)
I was thinking of trying to use chainsdd "su update fixer" in the market - but dont know how to use this app.. if it helps in debug i am also having a hard time installing busybox. i use "partitions info lite" to check status of my partitions, root access, and that i have busybox installed... i tried installing it via "busybox" [Stephen (Stericson)], which didnt seem to be recognized so uninstalled and tried "busybox installer" [JRummy16] - they are probably separate issues but who knows...
steve_77 said:
... and install the latest su for froyo 3.0.7 I loose root. ...
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You answered your own question.
Froyo was the version of Android that predates Gingerbread.
The only official release of software for this device is on Gingerbread.
We are moving forward into Ice Cream Sandwich, but not officially.
You are basically trying to install a Windows 7 Program on Windows 95, to craft an analogy.
Stick with the gingerbread release of superuser.
The reason why the version is higher is because for the Froyo version of Android it went through more iterations.
Shame I didn't see this thread sooner, someone else had this same issue a while ago and I gave the same answer, should be around here somewhere. Would have saved you some trouble.
Some confusion here, I think...
Here's what is at ChainsDD's official site, http://androidsu.com/superuser/
Eclair/Froyo/Gingerbread/Honeycomb/IceCreamSandwich (2.1 – 4.0.3)
md5: fc462fa0630379edbe10006b1d19d9b1
Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip | mirror | RM Web Connect
binary only
md5: 26d08a253f1883c13561d173094d70b9
su-bin-3.0.3.2-efghi-signed.zip | mirror | RM Web Connect​
The lines after the md5 codes are links for the zip files. Superuser 3.0.7, according to the dev, is applicable to all flavors of Android as listed. This is also the exact file that I flashed and am using on my phone. There is a separate file for Donut 1.6, and it also is designated 3.0.7, but with a slightly different filename: Superuser-3.0.7-d-signed.zip.
I still think updating from 2.3.6.1 is part of the problem. If you go straight to 3.0.7 after your reformatting, it should work properly.
Also, Manimal's suggestion to check that Superuser isn't disallowed within the app itself is a great idea. It's weird, but an easy fix if this is the case.
I believe the update fixer Chains has available is to correct problems with the Superuser app updating new binaries. I don't think this would be of benefit to your situation.
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2.3.4 is froyo right?
Either way the one i installed (i.e. Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip) was from the official site (http://androidsu.com/superuser)
which according to the notes shouldn't matter which version as long as its not 1.6 which it certainly isnt as its 2.3.4
will try it again... but thanks for the reply
So why not install the working version, and then just update the binary from within the app?
That would be one way.
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2.3.4 is froyo right?
Either way the one i installed (i.e. Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip) was from the official site (http://androidsu.com/superuser)
which according to the notes shouldn't matter which version as long as its not 1.6 which it certainly isnt as its 2.3.4
will try it again... but thanks for the reply
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Android 2.3.X is Gingerbread. Froyo is 2.2.X. Anyway, the SU you have SHOULD work, it is the same as I used. Have you tried flashing it via fastboot? I simply flashed the 3.0.7 version via recovery when I installed my ROM (stock 1.63.531.2).
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I rooted my Zoom wifi long ago. Flashed all the various Tiamat kernels and followed bigrushdog's 3.1 update with no problems. I recently flashed the CWR RC 4 over the updated 4.0.1 version in Rom Manager. I now see that all my apps requiring root don't work. I have Super user app but don't get the request to grant su anymore. I tried upgrading Super user within the app but it fails and writes a zip update to SD card which is supposed to be flashed through Recovery but doesn't (I suspect because the file is a 0 byte file!).
Any suggestions on how to get root back?
[Solved]: Seems it was a result of trying to upgrade Superuser that I lost root. See the last post below and the solution Almighty1 offers. It worked and I have root back......
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I rooted my Zoom wifi long ago. Flashed all the various Tiamat kernels and followed bigrushdog's 3.1 update with no problems. I recently flashed the CWR RC 4 over the updated 4.0.1 version in Rom Manager. I now see that all my apps requiring root don't work. I have Super user app but don't get the request to grant su anymore. I tried upgrading Super user within the app but it fails and writes a zip update to SD card which is supposed to be flashed through Recovery but doesn't (I suspect because the file is a 0 byte file!).
Any suggestions on how to get root back?
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There is a problem with the latest recovery version in Rom Manager. The recovery from solarnz is probably not at fault, but maybe the interaction of the two. You wil lneed someone with more knowledge than me to help you get root back, but this issue really needs attention. There are several updates to apps that seem to be breaking our Xooms, and there should be pinned warnings or the developers should be making everyone aware of these conflicts as soon as they find out. I had problems and I'm sure a lot of other folks have have problems with these incompatible app updates as well.
Thanks for that. It almost seems like Superuser is "degrading" in the sense that I had a number of apps reflected in the Superuser app as having been granted root (but not Rom Manager). However, I couldn't add new apps to it. And when I cleared Superuser data and reinstalled it, none of the apps that required root (and which had worked before) would work.
I also think that the writing of a 0 byte zip update file by the Superuser app indicates a problem.
I suspect the solution may lie with fastboot and re-pushing Superuser and CHMOD(?) file permissions but like you, I am nervous to play with these sort of things. My Xoom is working and until I have the need to change the ROM, root doesn't matter to me....
after reading this I checked and also had lost root. I had not checked after after flashing 4.0 in rom manger. Superuser was still there but my apps did not have access. I tried flash a new recovery, reflashing Tiamat nether worked. Anyway from adb
adb remount
adb push su /system/bin/
adb shell
chmod 4755 /system/bin/su
exit
adb push Superuser.apk /system/app/
I then rebooted and had root... updated Superuser as I had an older one in my platform-tools and all is well I then flashed the lastest recovery in rom manger and still have root.
Hope this helps
Thanks. I will give it a try this evening when I get back from work.
Also found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14643716&postcount=340 which seems similar to your solution.
This is why I hate CWR. I wish we had Amon RA recovery.
would have just asked in :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142872&page=67
but i don't have enough posts, and don't want to spam a bunch of useless "cool" posts to get my count up.
Anyways,I did every thing in that topic and have CM7 running fine on my Cell South Showcase. But, i don't seem to have root access superuser is there but seems to do nothing. i tried checking via the terminal with just a "su" command and got nothing. Tried Superoneclick (my go to rooter for awhile) and it just hangs at "looking for device" . and, Z4 seems to not work with 2.3.4 phones.
So is there any fix to this, or have i just hit some crazy bug?
I have seen some people allude to changing the kernel, but the last time i tried to upgrade/change the kernel on this phone i had to save it via odin
Don't you HAVE to be rooted in order to run cm7?
i know, it breaks all logic
i just know i cant grant superuser to anything, busybox installer says it isnt rooted, and Titanium cant do anything
thenumber5 said:
i know, it breaks all logic
i just know i cant grant superuser to anything, busybox installer says it isnt rooted, and Titanium cant do anything
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Clear data on superuser app and/or uninstall/reinstall it.
Ah,I see.. yes, try above. If no. Maybe wipe and reflash?
ok cleared the data, did nothing
can you ever uninstall/reinstall superuser?
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ok cleared the data, did nothing
can you ever uninstall/reinstall superuser?
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Yup just an app
Also:
i have already flashed via Odin back to stock once and did the whole CM7 flash again from a fully clean rom
ok, Flashed Superuser 3.0 beta 3
no go, says my SU binary is out of date, and the app crashes when it tries to update it
checked my bin and xbin, both have a "SU" file in them
in terminal when i CD in to both folders and try to run "SU" i get an error that looks like it is trying to relocate a library and failing to do so
Can i just download the new SU binary my self and manual drop it in to the folders?
well that didnt work, cant modify anything in the system folder so i cant delete that old "SU" and replace it with the one from the superuser 3.0 apk
LOL
well i got it to let me replace the SU in /bin but not in /xbin
so now i got some half confused phone, i can grate Superuser "superuser" but when it tries to update or do any thing the log says "gaining root access....fail"
i still dont know how i have have a CM7 phone that by it very nature is rooted that thinks it is not rooted
ok for anyone who cares, i just gave up flashed via odin back to stock and tried the MIUI port, worked great once i fangled MMS in to working again
I had a similar problem, at which point I grabbed stericson's busybox app from the market which allowed me to flash a working busybox which after a reboot or two and running the installer again fixed me up..there is an app called root checker that can give info on su, superuser.apk, and busybox installs
I am almost positive that when I used jrummys busybox installer our killed root access on my phone. I had superuser.apk but without busybox it was rather useless as no apps could get root. the fix was flashing busybox 1.19.0 and leaving it in xbin and letting the app do its thing once I had rebooted.. then I rebooted again and everything was fine! after bring rooted for so long I don't think I could function without it!
for others out there, my experience has been this: stay weary of the jrummy busybox installer...its never given me anything but problems...and honestly unless busybox is borked, or ya have a damn good reason to upgrade or downgrade my suggestion is to leave it! the potential problems that can arise (for me every time, using jrummy's version..3 times) can be a pain!
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i had the same issue but dont recall if it was CM7 that did it or not but i think it was.
i had to completely blow out the phone and start from scratch.
if i recall, CM7 uses a different version of SuperUser and it just want bonkers on me but completely blowing everything out reformatting and everything seemed to work.
If you're on CM7 already, you should be rooted. If not, try SuperOneClick (Google).
I have find a new supersu here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23427715
It is working good so far. Is it possible to remove the original super user bundeled with the custom roms. Or it can get some bad effect on custom rom.
Yerp saw this back in march...see it's been updated....:thumbup:
Thx
Probably not that great. Superuser is used universally for a reason.
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Probably not that great. Superuser is used universally for a reason.
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guess you know this because.....
Actual it is....but you prob installed it and ran it huh?
I have deleted the /system/app/SuperUser.apk through Root Explorer
SuperSu is working fine.
(It should only be done after installing SuperSU from the market, then run it a popup will come up asking to update binary say yes.)
Bought it a while back to support Chainfire.
wayzata said:
Probably not that great. Superuser is used universally for a reason.
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And you would be wrong. SuperSU comes from a well respected developer (Chainfire), and was created because Superuser has some major bugs that ChainsDD still hasn't fixed - such as su crashing if Android wasn't fully booted. (This was a pain for me for CM9 work when combined with their new "don't default to root in ADB" policy. ADB not going straight to root + broken su = pain)
Most I9100 and N7000 firmware developers have switched over, and when on Touchwiz firmwares I have too. Superuser's one advantage - it's open source which is why it is in CM9, I don't believe SuperSU is.
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And you would be wrong. SuperSU comes from a well respected developer (Chainfire), and was created because Superuser has some major bugs that ChainsDD still hasn't fixed - such as su crashing if Android wasn't fully booted. (This was a ****ing pain in the ass for me for CM9 work when combined with their new "don't default to root in ADB" policy. ADB not going straight to root + broken su = pain)
Most I9100 and N7000 firmware developers have switched over, and when on Touchwiz firmwares I have too. Superuser's one advantage - it's open source which is why it is in CM9, I don't believe SuperSU is.
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Would you recommend using SuperSU over superuser in CM9?
stratatak7 said:
Would you recommend using SuperSU over superuser in CM9?
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Not in CM9
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Not in CM9
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so for any ROM other than cm9, you recommend it? and if so, how would you recommend we install? i assume we need to install it first, then update, then delete the "regular superuser"?
TDuran said:
so for any ROM other than cm9, you recommend it? and if so, how would you recommend we install? i assume we need to install it first, then update, then delete the "regular superuser"?
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Just for kicks, I installed it and tried it. This probably isn't the "proper" method and you could possibly mess something up but anyway here is what I did: 1. Delete superuser.apk from your app folder in /system. 2. In Play store download superSU and install. It will ask you to update binaries. Do it and you should be golden.
**Delete files at your own risk** I used Root explorer and make sure you mount app folder as r/w before deleting and then put it back to normal when you're done.
failed... on galnet miui.. time to reinstall old SU
I have flashed the infusion kernel and old super user came back again. It means rooted kernel got Super User pre-packed with them
Working great for me on the infuse and the nook. Both cm9. CF is a great dev.
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ndhanta said:
I have flashed the infusion kernel and old super user came back again. It means rooted kernel got Super User pre-packed with them
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Yes. Many Rom devs include SU.
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ndhanta said:
I have flashed the infusion kernel and old super user came back again. It means rooted kernel got Super User pre-packed with them
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This is one of the reasons I removed autorooting from my kernels.
In my case, I just flashed the CWM-flashable SuperSU package in CWM - It will automatically remove legacy Superuser I believe.
I personally would like to see it in CM9 (or at least the Superuser problems that caused Chainfire to write SuperSU fixed) - but I believe that the free version of Superuser is open source while SuperSU is not (I could be wrong about this).
I am not getting any source information of SuperSu. It seems closed source.
Entropy512 said:
This is one of the reasons I removed autorooting from my kernels.
In my case, I just flashed the CWM-flashable SuperSU package in CWM - It will automatically remove legacy Superuser I believe.
I personally would like to see it in CM9 (or at least the Superuser problems that caused Chainfire to write SuperSU fixed) - but I believe that the free version of Superuser is open source while SuperSU is not (I could be wrong about this).
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SuperSU is free on the market (there is also a $$ pro version). I'm seeing the same thing ndhanta is with the infusion kernel. There is a script called install_su.sh which does the old ef su install but I haven't been able to track down the parent script that calls it, or figure out where the $source and $dest variables are being set... I'm assuming it may be possible to stop the script from performing the su install by changing the modify date of the file specified in the $dest var.
Any chance a version of the 4.4.12 GB kernel might materialize that supports OC? (Or an update to the infusion kernel that removes the su installer?) This would help eliminate the issue...
I just Re-rooted my SGS2 and I now have SU and SuperSU ??
Im assuming that SuperSU was installed automatically with the root ROM??
I have puirchased the Pro Version of SU .. so is it safe to Remove SuperSU without messing something up ?
Yes no problem
Just update the binaries of SU.
Hey guys and gals,
I've got a 7.7 on stock ROM rooted using the original root method the day I purchased the tablet. I've been using my tablet happily for over a month now.
Unfortunately, late last night I opened up Google Play and started updating all my apps, including Busybox by stericson. There was a new busybox version out (1.20.1) and I decided to install it using "Smart install." I'm not sure if it tried to install to /system/bin or /system/xbin but after the install I saw the app give me an error message explaining that the install was unsuccessful. Anyways, now a lot of my root-requiring apps including Titanium Backup Pro is not functioning at all. It seems that my BusyBox installation is corrupt.
I tried using BusyBox Pro by stericson to uninstall but the corrupt busybox seems to have prevented a proper uninstall, so it still lingers. I downloaded JadeEyedWolf's root.zip from his pinned "Root" post which includes SU & BusyBox thinking that installing the root.zip from CWM Recovery would over-write the corrupt busybox. After flashing I rebooted the tablet and I still got the same corrupt busybox issues.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
Edit: The corrupt busybox causes the Wifi to show Error when I try to turn on the radio. Not that internet is vital in repairing the tablet, but I've worked around it by tethering Bluetooth internet off of my OG HTC Evo 4G. It's strange though - I can peruse websites and view the items in the Google Play Store but it will never actually download, though the "Downloading --- " bar does display.
I had the same problem, stock rom as well. If you check the reviews for Stericson's Busybox on Google Play, the two top ones a few minutes ago both mentioned the same issue.
Trying to root again and reinstalling Superuser didn't help, neither did a factory reset (manually salvaging settings and data was a pain too).
Re-flashing the original rom fixed it, following the guide at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469635
I switched to JRummy16 Busybox installer and it seems to work.
Surprising that no one else here mentioned the problem ...
Try this fix.
To be more specific: BusyBox installer 8.0 replaces /system/bin/sh and /system/bin/ash binaries. I don't have any idea why would it do that (considering that I specified /system/xbin as an install folder), but this quick fix restores original ash binary (and sh as a symlink to it).
Installer 8.1 and above has this bug fixed.
Had the same problem with busybox and had to re-install the rom. What does this fix do?
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Too late for me to try it, but thanks the same
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To be more specific: BusyBox installer 1.20.1 replaces /system/bin/sh and /system/bin/ash binaries. I don't have any idea why would it do that (considering that I specified /system/xbin as an install folder), but this quick fix restores original ash binary (and sh as a symlink to it).
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Thank you so much it works well now! You're a life-saver ginkage. Should I keep the stericson busybox 1.20.1 original install or should I use the busybox installer to install a fresh copy of 1.20.1 in /system/xbin?
Thanks again!
Thank you so much it works well now!
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That's why we are here.
Should I keep the stericson busybox 1.20.1 original install or should I use the busybox installer to install a fresh copy of 1.20.1 in /system/xbin?
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Personally I always use /system/xbin, so that some custom kernel (like CWM) could use /system/bin if it wanted to.
BTW, the BusyBox installer bug was fixed in version 8.1, and current version is 8.2, so you should update it anyway. I was wrong to mention "1.20.1" version. Post edited.
Hi guys,
First of all, I want to apologize sincerely for the bug that my application introduced in 8.0. I didn't catch the bug because my device wasn't affected by the bug.. (I always test my app myself before releasing..yet I still miss things due to devices file structure being so different.)
At any rate, the bug was that the application symlinked all applets to Busybox. Normally, this is done if you use smart install and change the settings manually. By default smart install will not overwrite applets that are not already symlinked to Busybox.
This was not a problem with Busybox 1.20.1 but was a problem with my application and how it performed the install.
Again, I am very very sorry that this has occured, as a result I am scouring the web trying to find people with the issue and help them resolve it.
If you have this problem, it can easily be fixed by reflashing your current rom. you do not have to wipe or clear any data. Once this is done, you can download my installer, version 8.1 or greater and upgrade busybox as normal.
Please let me know if you guys have any questions.
Best Regards,
Stephen - Stericson
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Try this fix.
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I too had the same situation, updated busybox then noticed something was awry when hidebar wouldn't work. My issues go way beyond broken root and WIFI, I've also been getting constant reboots. I was just about to re-install the stock rom until I read about the possible udate.zip fix. I'm very interested in how to apply the zip (I don't have CWM) being that i do extensive customization (with no backup, I know, I know) and I'd hate to re customize everything again. If I can get things right the first thing I'll do is install CWM and perform a nandroid backup.
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I too had the same situation, updated busybox then noticed something was awry when hidebar wouldn't work. My issues go way beyond broken root and WIFI, I've also been getting constant reboots. I was just about to re-install the stock rom until I read about the possible udate.zip fix. I'm very interested in how to apply the zip (I don't have CWM) being that i do extensive customization (with no backup, I know, I know) and I'd hate to re customize everything again. If I can get things right the first thing I'll do is install CWM and perform a nandroid backup.
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you don't need CWM, just copy the fix onto external storage card,enter recovery (PWR + Vol. up Buttons) and apply the update from there. just fixed my tablet this way
regius said:
you don't need CWM, just copy the fix onto external storage card,enter recovery (PWR + Vol. up Buttons) and apply the update from there. just fixed my tablet this way
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A thousand thanks kind sir, I'm back in business, that was pain free
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ginkage said:
Try this fix.
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Thanks for posting this, I'm in love with my 7.7 once again.
Appreciate the response stericson. I had purchased your Pro version but even after I fixed the uninstall failed and it also did not detect superuser permissions even though SU gave a notification that Busybox Pro was granted superuser. All other root-requiring apps work. Had to refund the Pro purchase though
No problem. there seems to be an issue with the application detecting root sometimes, that's why you can still try the install.
I'm looking into this issue, it just started showing up so I am not sure what is going on.
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Really appreciate this fix. On the verge of wiping out everything....
But decide to see if its busy box since its the last thing i install before all this happens....
Just to note that uninstall busybox also doesnt solve the issue...
so need to fix.
I had a lot of problems with root permissions not being granted by Superuser app. Recently I have tried SuperSu from the market and uninstalled original Superuser app (important to follow the instructions for the App! ).
My main problem was that ntfssd was not granted root permissions at startup, so I had to start it again manually. With SuperSu it is no problem. Also I use Busybox and successfully updated to the latest binary recently.
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Thank you so much for that, I had been driven crazy and had also gone through a factory reset to try and get my device back working, to no avail. Can I ask where you got the ash you're including here? It worked for my Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 Plus, on 3.2, but is it a generic enough file that it can be dropped on nearly all Android devices without any issues arising?
I only ask out of curiosity and understanding the system more.
I have done s-off via firewater, installed Philz CWM and done SU from there.
For all intents and purposes the system appears rooted (TiBu works, I get toast pop-ups etc).
I am also able to use ES File Explorer to mount /system as r/w.
I have also tried to remount system as r/w via adb shell.
All of these work as I am able to "touch /system/test.file" via adb and then delete it via ES File Explorer.
It would appear the system is writable.
However, when I try to install BusyBox from here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en
I get "Insufficient storage available" (and I have plenty of space).
I have found this information on modifying the kernel either through a boot.img or a .ko:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708686
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701816
But both have some indications that they may be out of date and cause problems with the latest release.
I'm not even sure I have to do either of these, because it appears writable from my tests.
It is possibly the busybox program - but that is the one I have used in the past.
I would like to find both a trusted way to install busybox AND understand why I might be getting this problem in the first place.
thanks
TraderJack said:
I have done s-off via firewater, installed Philz CWM and done SU from there.
For all intents and purposes the system appears rooted (TiBu works, I get toast pop-ups etc).
I am also able to use ES File Explorer to mount /system as r/w.
I have also tried to remount system as r/w via adb shell.
All of these work as I am able to "touch /system/test.file" via adb and then delete it via ES File Explorer.
It would appear the system is writable.
However, when I try to install BusyBox from here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en
I get "Insufficient storage available" (and I have plenty of space).
I have found this information on modifying the kernel either through a boot.img or a .ko:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708686
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701816
But both have some indications that they may be out of date and cause problems with the latest release.
I'm not even sure I have to do either of these, because it appears writable from my tests.
It is possibly the busybox program - but that is the one I have used in the past.
I would like to find both a trusted way to install busybox AND understand why I might be getting this problem in the first place.
thanks
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If you do try one of the kernel related solutions do the first one as the second is based on firmware we won't have until next week. Also here is a little trick you can try: navigate from the root directory to /data/data ND look for the Busybox folder and delete it then attempt reinstalling it from the play store. May or may not work but worth a shot.
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
If you do try one of the kernel related solutions do the first one as the second is based on firmware we won't have until next week. Also here is a little trick you can try: navigate from the root directory to /data/data ND look for the Busybox folder and delete it then attempt reinstalling it from the play store. May or may not work but worth a shot.
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Well if you read the thread for the first link it looks like people are saying it was for the "older firmware" and people were having issues. I am not sure what "firmware" they are referring to, but the OP closed that thread and I am wary to use that since all of this stuff seems to be back from April and nothing more on it.
What do you mean about the second link not having firmware until next week? I don't see anything in there that talks about a particular firmware version. Also, I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2731893
That Rom uses 1.55.506.2 (latest OTA I believe???) and states that it is using flar's method from the second link....so I'm confused by your statements (but want to understand!).
I don't have any busybox folders in /data/data.
I'm having a similar problem trying to install Xposed as well:
"Xposed Installer couldn't be installed. Free up some space and try again"
I'm really not sure what's going on since it appears I have proper s-off and root using the standard methods. I can't believe no one else is trying to do these things on a stock ROM and not having issues :/
UPDATE: I'm thinking you meant the 4.4.3 update coming for us? That second thread has .ko for both 4.4.2 and 4.4.3.
UPDATE:
I went ahead and did another factory reset. This time, instead of using the Philz CMW option for "Re-root System (SuperSU)" I used the supersu.zip to flash superSU.
After that, when I went to try and install busybox and xposed I had no issues at all.
I'm not sure why the Philz option didn't work entirely...as it stated it worked, and appeared to give me root when launching my apps...maybe I should switch to TWRP :/
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Well if you read the thread for the first link it looks like people are saying it was for the "older firmware" and people were having issues. I am not sure what "firmware" they are referring to, but the OP closed that thread and I am wary to use that since all of this stuff seems to be back from April and nothing more on it.
What do you mean about the second link not having firmware until next week? I don't see anything in there that talks about a particular firmware version. Also, I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2731893
That Rom uses 1.55.506.2 (latest OTA I believe???) and states that it is using flar's method from the second link....so I'm confused by your statements (but want to understand!).
I don't have any busybox folders in /data/data.
I'm having a similar problem trying to install Xposed as well:
"Xposed Installer couldn't be installed. Free up some space and try again"
I'm really not sure what's going on since it appears I have proper s-off and root using the standard methods. I can't believe no one else is trying to do these things on a stock ROM and not having issues :/
UPDATE: I'm thinking you meant the 4.4.3 update coming for us? That second thread has .ko for both 4.4.2 and 4.4.3.
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Yeah on the kernel my bad, didn't see it had a normal one for non 2.23 firmware users lol, if you don't wanna use that kernel you can always use one of the other ones, maybe Faux's or Evolutionmods kernel. I actually currently use Evolutions kernel and it's quite nice. Also that ROM will work fine I believe, quite sure 1.55 is the latest OTA and if not it doesn't really matter. All though as some people have stated on your previous thread (i think?) you might as well use an optimized stock ROM such as CleanROM or ARHD (Android Revolution HD 8.1), all it is is a stock ROM thats been optimized for better performance and maybe has some tweaks to make it better. To be clear on the ARHD ROM, I stated the version because any higher version than that is for 4.4.3 which we currently don't have the firmware for.
TraderJack said:
UPDATE:
I went ahead and did another factory reset. This time, instead of using the Philz CMW option for "Re-root System (SuperSU)" I used the supersu.zip to flash superSU.
After that, when I went to try and install busybox and xposed I had no issues at all.
I'm not sure why the Philz option didn't work entirely...as it stated it worked, and appeared to give me root when launching my apps...maybe I should switch to TWRP :/
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Glad you got your issue solved!
TraderJack said:
UPDATE:
I went ahead and did another factory reset. This time, instead of using the Philz CMW option for "Re-root System (SuperSU)" I used the supersu.zip to flash superSU.
After that, when I went to try and install busybox and xposed I had no issues at all.
I'm not sure why the Philz option didn't work entirely...as it stated it worked, and appeared to give me root when launching my apps...maybe I should switch to TWRP :/
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Just so you know, when asking the recovery to reroot the system it's going to use the supersu app packaged with the recovery. It's likely a much older supersu app. You're always better flashing the latest version from the recovery itself because you can be sure it's running the latest binaries. If you updated the app from the play store after installation it probably would've worked. It's also possible it simply just doesn't inject the file properly, but a flashable zip always will work.
I can assure you that philz is probably the most updated recovery. It runs very well and does everything it's supposed to do. Are you running the Verizon M8 build or the unified M8 build?
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Just so you know, when asking the recovery to reroot the system it's going to use the supersu app packaged with the recovery. It's likely a much older supersu app. You're always better flashing the latest version from the recovery itself because you can be sure it's running the latest binaries. If you updated the app from the play store after installation it probably would've worked. It's also possible it simply just doesn't inject the file properly, but a flashable zip always will work.
I can assure you that philz is probably the most updated recovery. It runs very well and does everything it's supposed to do. Are you running the Verizon M8 build or the unified M8 build?
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I did update to the latest version...the way Philz works is you choose the "Re-root option" and then it tells you to go and install SuperSU from the store. The only thing I may have done wrong (or misunderstood since it isn't well documented) is this was my "root" as opposed to my "re-root." By that, I mean I rooted originally with weaksauce to install firewater, but I used the Root option in Philz instead of the more discussed supersu.zip flash.
The weird thing about it was that root appeared to work properly. I got toast popups and could use things like TiBu. SuperSU said it was rooted, and Philz was passing the root check.
That should teach me from straying from the guides at all to use a feature not very well discussed.
TraderJack said:
I did update to the latest version...the way Philz works is you choose the "Re-root option" and then it tells you to go and install SuperSU from the store. The only thing I may have done wrong (or misunderstood since it isn't well documented) is this was my "root" as opposed to my "re-root." By that, I mean I rooted originally with weaksauce to install firewater, but I used the Root option in Philz instead of the more discussed supersu.zip flash.
The weird thing about it was that root appeared to work properly. I got toast popups and could use things like TiBu. SuperSU said it was rooted, and Philz was passing the root check.
That should teach me from straying from the guides at all to use a feature not very well discussed.
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Can't say I ever used that option, it probably just didn't flash it correctly. You may want to post the problem in the recovery thread so they know about it.
In theory it should've worked the same way as flashing the zip. The only thing I could think of is how old the binary was or the location of the flash was incorrect.
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