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[Q] [Solved] Superuser: isn't asking for permissions BUT apps work

I'm confused! I have superuser installed and as of yet no app has asked for permissions; they just work. With the exception of ROM Manager which just freezes (needs long hold on back key). On previous ROMs I've flashed, requests for permissions pop up and you allow/deny etc. I've tried using the updater from the marketplace (force closes) and updating the binary (force closes). Am not able to uninstall superuser. I've turned on/off USB Debugging, fixed permissions, almost everything else I've found on the net.
As apps are working it isn't the end of the world but I'm confused about why they are working and also slightly concerned over the security aspect of apps not asking me and just running.
Apps that work without asking include: Titanium Backup, CPU Master, NSTools, File Explorer
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What version is it? Try flashing version 3.0.7, this was the first to work with ICS if I remember correctly.
http://downloads.androidsu.com/superuser/Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip

Hi,
According to the app it's version 3.0.7 (41).
I should've mentioned that it's an ICS ROM, sorry.

flodb113 said:
What version is it? Try flashing version 3.0.7, this was the first to work with ICS if I remember correctly.
http://downloads.androidsu.com/superuser/Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip
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You sir, are awesome! Thank you for link. I installed it and now my apps are requesting permissions.

Dynamo Nath said:
You sir, are awesome! Thank you for link. I installed it and now my apps are requesting permissions.
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Glad you're happy with it! When ICS came out, we had to wait a week (I think) for the update to make SU work properly. Great work from the dev, as always.

SuperSU

Hmm, I wonder if devs will start packaging this in their ROMs instead...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
I'd like to report that I've been using it all day with no issues. Anyone else?

estallings15 said:
Hmm, I wonder if devs will start packaging this in their ROMs instead...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
I'd like to report that I've been using it all day with no issues. Anyone else?
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I've seen it but never thought of trying it. Might include it in a experimental black ice build
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
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I'm using it right now.
I added it in my Kang instead of superuser.
Everything is working as expected.
Sent from my HTC Panache / Darkside CM7.2 using xda premium.

SprigganMaster said:
I'm using it right now.
I added it in my Kang instead of superuser.
Everything is working as expected.
Sent from my HTC Panache / Darkside CM7.2 using xda premium.
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Nice. Yeah I haven't had a single issue.

Anything with Black Ice would be great..although I cant imagine it being better! I dont know why, but Ive tried most of the top roms from the dev section, & i absolutely love Black Ice and what it has done in terms of performance! My phone is snappy as it has ever been..
Sent from my Black Ice'd Glacier using xda premium

I've tried to run this on my Desire S with Endymion and every time I open it it says...............
"There is no SU binary installed and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!"
Any ideas?

Did you uninstall super user app you had before you tried to install super su? I believe someone on the original thread had that happen and that was the problem. Worth a shot

Andy3105 said:
I've tried to run this on my Desire S with Endymion and every time I open it it says...............
"There is no SU binary installed and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!"
Any ideas?
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Did you flash the zip (found in the supersu release thread) in recovery, or just install from the market?
Just getting it from the market won't install the binary needed.
The zip also deletes the SU app and binary. Its the best method for installation.

johnson8cyl said:
Did you uninstall super user app you had before you tried to install super su? I believe someone on the original thread had that happen and that was the problem. Worth a shot
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I didn't uninstall the original Superuser app that came with rom first, no, I have just tried to and it won't let me.............????
estallings15 said:
Did you flash the zip (found in the supersu release thread) in recovery, or just install from the market?
Just getting it from the market won't install the binary needed.
The zip also deletes the SU app and binary. Its the best method for installation.
I did flash the zip files via recovery but it didn't uninstall the original SU app, any ideas?
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Obviously, you can't uninstall system apps in the usual way. You need to use something like Titanium backup, or use ADB shell.

Ok, so I went into Root Uninstaller and uninstalled the standard Superuser app but I still get the same message, what is really weird is that whenever an app launches that requires superuser access that Supersu screen pops up and everything works as usual.........
Obviously it's working but I still get that same damn message.......

Andy3105 said:
Ok, so I went into Root Uninstaller and uninstalled the standard Superuser app but I still get the same message, what is really weird is that whenever an app launches that requires superuser access that Supersu screen pops up and everything works as usual.........
Obviously it's working but I still get that same damn message.......
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Use root explorer or es file manager to copy /system/xbin/su to system/bin/

estallings15 said:
Use root explorer or es file manager to copy /system/xbin/su to system/bin/
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I rolled back to my previous backup and installed from the Market as recommended in the Supersu thread and did what you said but it still happens.....

Then I'm out of ideas. I'm sorry.

superuser 3.0.7 doesnt work

I tried upgrading from su 2.6.3.1 to superuser 3.0.7 over the weekend and after flashing 3.0.7 , none of my apps that required root work - is there a way around this [im using the latest update (1.63...)] Id like to update but seems stuck with older version for now - at least it works.
I did see a Superuser elite in the market... does the new version require you to pay for the license to get root (not that its about money but im just curious)?
Also yes there us an "update fixer" which requires root privileges which the new 3.0.7 version doesnt provide so i cant use that.

try flashing su in recovery http://androidsu.com/superuser/

yeah thats exactly what i did...
I rooted my phone long ago and just got the new update so had to reroot it after installation... which seemed to work fine (with the older su-2.6.3.1) but sadly now that i got this nonworking superuser 3.0.7 (elf).zip in my phone none of my apps that need root access work
At this point im trying to figure how to go back to the older version (unless i can get this one working). Was just hoping i dont have to start all over as i cant even seem to reflash the older version - as it now gives me errors. Might just have to wipe the phone and start all over with the update.
But yeah so I updated the latest htc update and had to reroot my phone, I was able to flash the su-2.6.3.1 via CMR and this worked fine. It seems as i should have stopped there as i saw that the 2.6.3.1 is an older version, so i tried flashing the latest 3.0.7 (elf) superuser -(which appeared to install just fine) but now I dont seem to have root anymore (although i see the superuser app - none of my apps that require superuser work). Ideas? Using adb .. I do see proper permissions on su at /system/bin but - for some reason SU is not working.

Did you make regular Nandroid backups?
You should have made a Nandroid backup through CWM after installation of Superuser 2.6.3.1. I take it this isn't the case, because that backup would mean you could perform a factory restore, reflash CWM, and restore the backup. Any time you are making changes to your phone, backup before and along the way, just in case something like this happens. Titanium has its uses, but if your phone environment gets borked and you can't use it, it kind of defeats the purpose. Nandroid backups are more reliable in my book, and aren't app-dependent.
Sounds like you will have to start from scratch, although I'm unsure as to why Superuser 3.0.7 didn't work as expected. Possibly there was a conflict in moving from 2.6.3.1 to the newer version. I don't know of any specific problems 3.0.7 has with the MT4GS, and I'm running it on my phone with the latest binary without any problems. I do get an error message for one app, Quick Boot, when I use it to boot into recovery, but that doesn't stop the app from functioning as expected. I think that difficulty is related to the app itself and not Superuser.
Hopefully someone with a little more Superuser experience will chime in here. I'm afraid I don't have any ideas beyond the above.
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steve_77 said:
It seems as i should have stopped there as i saw that the 2.6.3.1 is an older version, so i tried flashing the latest 3.0.7 (elf) superuser -(which appeared to install just fine) but now I dont seem to have root anymore (although i see the superuser app - none of my apps that require superuser work). Ideas? Using adb .. I do see proper permissions on su at /system/bin but - for some reason SU is not working.
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I had a similar problem before with SU after switching ROMs. Don't know if it might help but with Titanium Backup it showed that I had no busybox so I dl'ed busybox then SU wouldn't allow the apps to gain root access. Couldn't figure out what the problem was at all. Then I went to the SU app then saw that under the apps that were allowed or disallowed root access, the SU app itself was there. Once I deleted it from the list all the other apps that needed access worked fine. Hope that helps...

KingCheetah said:
You should have made a Nandroid backup through CWM after installation of Superuser 2.6.3.1.
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Yeah i know - as fate would have it this is the one time i did not make a backup yet as i was hoping to gut out all the crap apps before doing a backup. Guess ill need to get more religious with the backups.
manimmal
Yeah i had Titanium Backup running with busy box before i had the "bright" idea to upgrade to 3.0.7 - but i guess i could try that but likely i might have to start-over from scratch (and forget about the 3.0.7 version) - unless anyone has any other ideas.
The only thing I can think of is perhaps the first su was flashed using one version of CMR and the second another version of CMR (updated after i installed rom manager perhaps)?
Even more interesting is the "su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed" with su having a datestamp of 8/17/2010; while the "Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed2" su version has a datestamp of 2/29/2008 - which seems a bit weird....

steve_77 said:
I tried upgrading from su 2.6.3.1 to superuser 3.0.7 over the weekend and after flashing 3.0.7 , none of my apps that required root work - is there a way around this [im using the latest update (1.63...)] Id like to update but seems stuck with older version for now - at least it works.
I did see a Superuser elite in the market... does the new version require you to pay for the license to get root (not that its about money but im just curious)?
Also yes there us an "update fixer" which requires root privileges which the new 3.0.7 version doesnt provide so i cant use that.
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I'm running Superuser v3.0.7 with no problem, I flashed it in recovery. It has the su binary 3.0.3.2.

Fuzi0719 said:
I'm running Superuser v3.0.7 with no problem, I flashed it in recovery. It has the su binary 3.0.3.2.
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do you still have the exact same zip file you used to install 3.0.7 ? (perhaps you have a slightly different one then whats available on the website)
I have no doubt that it works on some peoples devices, but i just dont know why it doesn't work on my device. I am pretty much running stock rom with the latest htc update, CMR 5.0.2.7 , rom manager 5.0.0.6 , superuser 2.3.6.1, su binary 2.3.1-ef - this works ( i have root) but if i boot into recovery and install the latest su for froyo 3.0.7 I loose root. (made nandroid backup this time)
I was thinking of trying to use chainsdd "su update fixer" in the market - but dont know how to use this app.. if it helps in debug i am also having a hard time installing busybox. i use "partitions info lite" to check status of my partitions, root access, and that i have busybox installed... i tried installing it via "busybox" [Stephen (Stericson)], which didnt seem to be recognized so uninstalled and tried "busybox installer" [JRummy16] - they are probably separate issues but who knows...

steve_77 said:
... and install the latest su for froyo 3.0.7 I loose root. ...
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You answered your own question.
Froyo was the version of Android that predates Gingerbread.
The only official release of software for this device is on Gingerbread.
We are moving forward into Ice Cream Sandwich, but not officially.
You are basically trying to install a Windows 7 Program on Windows 95, to craft an analogy.
Stick with the gingerbread release of superuser.
The reason why the version is higher is because for the Froyo version of Android it went through more iterations.
Shame I didn't see this thread sooner, someone else had this same issue a while ago and I gave the same answer, should be around here somewhere. Would have saved you some trouble.

Some confusion here, I think...
Here's what is at ChainsDD's official site, http://androidsu.com/superuser/
Eclair/Froyo/Gingerbread/Honeycomb/IceCreamSandwich (2.1 – 4.0.3)
md5: fc462fa0630379edbe10006b1d19d9b1
Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip | mirror | RM Web Connect
binary only
md5: 26d08a253f1883c13561d173094d70b9
su-bin-3.0.3.2-efghi-signed.zip | mirror | RM Web Connect​
The lines after the md5 codes are links for the zip files. Superuser 3.0.7, according to the dev, is applicable to all flavors of Android as listed. This is also the exact file that I flashed and am using on my phone. There is a separate file for Donut 1.6, and it also is designated 3.0.7, but with a slightly different filename: Superuser-3.0.7-d-signed.zip.
I still think updating from 2.3.6.1 is part of the problem. If you go straight to 3.0.7 after your reformatting, it should work properly.
Also, Manimal's suggestion to check that Superuser isn't disallowed within the app itself is a great idea. It's weird, but an easy fix if this is the case.
I believe the update fixer Chains has available is to correct problems with the Superuser app updating new binaries. I don't think this would be of benefit to your situation.
Chains would be the best source for help, I think; an e-mail couldn't hurt --
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2.3.4 is froyo right?
Either way the one i installed (i.e. Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip) was from the official site (http://androidsu.com/superuser)
which according to the notes shouldn't matter which version as long as its not 1.6 which it certainly isnt as its 2.3.4
will try it again... but thanks for the reply

So why not install the working version, and then just update the binary from within the app?
That would be one way.
Sent from a digital distance.

steve_77 said:
2.3.4 is froyo right?
Either way the one i installed (i.e. Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip) was from the official site (http://androidsu.com/superuser)
which according to the notes shouldn't matter which version as long as its not 1.6 which it certainly isnt as its 2.3.4
will try it again... but thanks for the reply
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Android 2.3.X is Gingerbread. Froyo is 2.2.X. Anyway, the SU you have SHOULD work, it is the same as I used. Have you tried flashing it via fastboot? I simply flashed the 3.0.7 version via recovery when I installed my ROM (stock 1.63.531.2).

Can I uninstall super user app if it is built in to my ROM?

I'm using a cm nightly with the new super user built into the ROM. So, can I uninstall the app or what?
Free your mind!

50cr473s said:
I'm using a cm nightly with the new super user built into the ROM. So, can I uninstall the app or what?
Free your mind!
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Uninstalling it would remove root. You can replace it with another superuser app.

I'd be careful with this. I did it by accident (switched ROMs, had a had SuperSU installed on my old ROM, but new ROM came with its own SU program. When I reinstalled everything I included SuperSU) and it messed everything up - no programs could successfully get root access. I ended up just wiping and re-installing the ROM, this time not re-installing SuperSU on top of it and sticking with the built-in one on Viper.
Is there really any difference between SU apps? Hardly seems worth the hassle.

I'm using cm's app which is open source and built to be compatible with android platform, thus the ability to be integrated into the ROM. I've noticed that when I switch ROMs(e.g. carbon's unofficial port) Supersu is there in the app tray(instead of cm's) and cm's is in the settings. I had supersu installed before, but removed it when I installed cm's app. Oh my I've gone crosseyed. I've decided that it works as is and my only need is to clean up a little. I was just wondering if any one knew about specifically CM's super user?
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50cr473s said:
I'm using cm's app which is open source and built to be compatible with android platform, thus the ability to be integrated into the ROM. I've noticed that when I switch ROMs(e.g. carbon's unofficial port) Supersu is there in the app tray(instead of cm's) and cm's is in the settings. I had supersu installed before, but removed it when I installed cm's app. Oh my I've gone crosseyed. I've decided that it works as is and my only need is to clean up a little. I was just wondering if any one knew about specifically CM's super user?
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Well here's two cents for what its worth. When I moved from Rooted Stock (with SuperSU) to CM10 based Rom (LiquidSmooth), the CM10 app superseded from under Settings. SuperSU had to ask that app for permission before opening its own shop. From then on SuperSU ruled.
You don't necessarily have to do this. I did it because I like and support Chainfire's work. You can uninstall SuperSU if you are getting a CM based ROM with their app. It does not matter either way. They both are good.
Now as to SuperUser is concerned, I had a string of bad luck on ICS when that app tried to update SU Binary and ended deleting it. Of course I lost Root and since it was messed up, I could not use any Rooting Tools to get back.

Perseus71 said:
Now as to SuperUser is concerned, I had a string of bad luck on ICS when that app tried to update SU Binary and ended deleting it. Of course I lost Root and since it was messed up, I could not use any Rooting Tools to get back.
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You could have flashed root back just the root zip

a box of kittens said:
You could have flashed root back just the root zip
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I tried and failed. Recovery Flash had error unable to obtain Root.

Perseus71 said:
Now as to SuperUser is concerned, I had a string of bad luck on ICS when that app tried to update SU Binary and ended deleting it. Of course I lost Root and since it was messed up, I could not use any Rooting Tools to get back.
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The SuperUser in CM now is not the same as it used to be, this is a new, open source SuperUser built by Koush and designed to be integrated into the system. Also this new version has two ways of updating the binary should one fail you.
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bliind said:
The SuperUser in CM now is not the same as it used to be, this is a new, open source SuperUser built by Koush and designed to be integrated into the system. Also this new version has two ways of updating the binary should one fail you.
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Yes I am aware of CM's inbuilt app. My comment that you quoted, pertains to the SuperUser App by ChainsDD as against SuperSU by Chainfire. This for the part 2 of OP.

Do either of the devs have a thread pertaining to switching su apps? I couldn't find anything?
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50cr473s said:
Do either of the devs have a thread pertaining to switching su apps? I couldn't find anything?
Free your mind!
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Here's SuperSU. Best to download the App from Google Play. The thread can be confusing.
The CWM Superuser app on Google Play.
The original Superuser App by Chainsdd. As before best get it on Google Play.

i always download the supersu cwm flashable from the supersu thread, then after you flash it you can disable the original one.

[Q] Non writable /system on Stock or something else?

I have done s-off via firewater, installed Philz CWM and done SU from there.
For all intents and purposes the system appears rooted (TiBu works, I get toast pop-ups etc).
I am also able to use ES File Explorer to mount /system as r/w.
I have also tried to remount system as r/w via adb shell.
All of these work as I am able to "touch /system/test.file" via adb and then delete it via ES File Explorer.
It would appear the system is writable.
However, when I try to install BusyBox from here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en
I get "Insufficient storage available" (and I have plenty of space).
I have found this information on modifying the kernel either through a boot.img or a .ko:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708686
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701816
But both have some indications that they may be out of date and cause problems with the latest release.
I'm not even sure I have to do either of these, because it appears writable from my tests.
It is possibly the busybox program - but that is the one I have used in the past.
I would like to find both a trusted way to install busybox AND understand why I might be getting this problem in the first place.
thanks

TraderJack said:
I have done s-off via firewater, installed Philz CWM and done SU from there.
For all intents and purposes the system appears rooted (TiBu works, I get toast pop-ups etc).
I am also able to use ES File Explorer to mount /system as r/w.
I have also tried to remount system as r/w via adb shell.
All of these work as I am able to "touch /system/test.file" via adb and then delete it via ES File Explorer.
It would appear the system is writable.
However, when I try to install BusyBox from here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en
I get "Insufficient storage available" (and I have plenty of space).
I have found this information on modifying the kernel either through a boot.img or a .ko:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708686
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701816
But both have some indications that they may be out of date and cause problems with the latest release.
I'm not even sure I have to do either of these, because it appears writable from my tests.
It is possibly the busybox program - but that is the one I have used in the past.
I would like to find both a trusted way to install busybox AND understand why I might be getting this problem in the first place.
thanks
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If you do try one of the kernel related solutions do the first one as the second is based on firmware we won't have until next week. Also here is a little trick you can try: navigate from the root directory to /data/data ND look for the Busybox folder and delete it then attempt reinstalling it from the play store. May or may not work but worth a shot.

S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
If you do try one of the kernel related solutions do the first one as the second is based on firmware we won't have until next week. Also here is a little trick you can try: navigate from the root directory to /data/data ND look for the Busybox folder and delete it then attempt reinstalling it from the play store. May or may not work but worth a shot.
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Well if you read the thread for the first link it looks like people are saying it was for the "older firmware" and people were having issues. I am not sure what "firmware" they are referring to, but the OP closed that thread and I am wary to use that since all of this stuff seems to be back from April and nothing more on it.
What do you mean about the second link not having firmware until next week? I don't see anything in there that talks about a particular firmware version. Also, I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2731893
That Rom uses 1.55.506.2 (latest OTA I believe???) and states that it is using flar's method from the second link....so I'm confused by your statements (but want to understand!).
I don't have any busybox folders in /data/data.
I'm having a similar problem trying to install Xposed as well:
"Xposed Installer couldn't be installed. Free up some space and try again"
I'm really not sure what's going on since it appears I have proper s-off and root using the standard methods. I can't believe no one else is trying to do these things on a stock ROM and not having issues :/
UPDATE: I'm thinking you meant the 4.4.3 update coming for us? That second thread has .ko for both 4.4.2 and 4.4.3.

UPDATE:
I went ahead and did another factory reset. This time, instead of using the Philz CMW option for "Re-root System (SuperSU)" I used the supersu.zip to flash superSU.
After that, when I went to try and install busybox and xposed I had no issues at all.
I'm not sure why the Philz option didn't work entirely...as it stated it worked, and appeared to give me root when launching my apps...maybe I should switch to TWRP :/

TraderJack said:
Well if you read the thread for the first link it looks like people are saying it was for the "older firmware" and people were having issues. I am not sure what "firmware" they are referring to, but the OP closed that thread and I am wary to use that since all of this stuff seems to be back from April and nothing more on it.
What do you mean about the second link not having firmware until next week? I don't see anything in there that talks about a particular firmware version. Also, I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2731893
That Rom uses 1.55.506.2 (latest OTA I believe???) and states that it is using flar's method from the second link....so I'm confused by your statements (but want to understand!).
I don't have any busybox folders in /data/data.
I'm having a similar problem trying to install Xposed as well:
"Xposed Installer couldn't be installed. Free up some space and try again"
I'm really not sure what's going on since it appears I have proper s-off and root using the standard methods. I can't believe no one else is trying to do these things on a stock ROM and not having issues :/
UPDATE: I'm thinking you meant the 4.4.3 update coming for us? That second thread has .ko for both 4.4.2 and 4.4.3.
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Yeah on the kernel my bad, didn't see it had a normal one for non 2.23 firmware users lol, if you don't wanna use that kernel you can always use one of the other ones, maybe Faux's or Evolutionmods kernel. I actually currently use Evolutions kernel and it's quite nice. Also that ROM will work fine I believe, quite sure 1.55 is the latest OTA and if not it doesn't really matter. All though as some people have stated on your previous thread (i think?) you might as well use an optimized stock ROM such as CleanROM or ARHD (Android Revolution HD 8.1), all it is is a stock ROM thats been optimized for better performance and maybe has some tweaks to make it better. To be clear on the ARHD ROM, I stated the version because any higher version than that is for 4.4.3 which we currently don't have the firmware for.
TraderJack said:
UPDATE:
I went ahead and did another factory reset. This time, instead of using the Philz CMW option for "Re-root System (SuperSU)" I used the supersu.zip to flash superSU.
After that, when I went to try and install busybox and xposed I had no issues at all.
I'm not sure why the Philz option didn't work entirely...as it stated it worked, and appeared to give me root when launching my apps...maybe I should switch to TWRP :/
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Glad you got your issue solved!

TraderJack said:
UPDATE:
I went ahead and did another factory reset. This time, instead of using the Philz CMW option for "Re-root System (SuperSU)" I used the supersu.zip to flash superSU.
After that, when I went to try and install busybox and xposed I had no issues at all.
I'm not sure why the Philz option didn't work entirely...as it stated it worked, and appeared to give me root when launching my apps...maybe I should switch to TWRP :/
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Just so you know, when asking the recovery to reroot the system it's going to use the supersu app packaged with the recovery. It's likely a much older supersu app. You're always better flashing the latest version from the recovery itself because you can be sure it's running the latest binaries. If you updated the app from the play store after installation it probably would've worked. It's also possible it simply just doesn't inject the file properly, but a flashable zip always will work.
I can assure you that philz is probably the most updated recovery. It runs very well and does everything it's supposed to do. Are you running the Verizon M8 build or the unified M8 build?
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BadUsername said:
Just so you know, when asking the recovery to reroot the system it's going to use the supersu app packaged with the recovery. It's likely a much older supersu app. You're always better flashing the latest version from the recovery itself because you can be sure it's running the latest binaries. If you updated the app from the play store after installation it probably would've worked. It's also possible it simply just doesn't inject the file properly, but a flashable zip always will work.
I can assure you that philz is probably the most updated recovery. It runs very well and does everything it's supposed to do. Are you running the Verizon M8 build or the unified M8 build?
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I did update to the latest version...the way Philz works is you choose the "Re-root option" and then it tells you to go and install SuperSU from the store. The only thing I may have done wrong (or misunderstood since it isn't well documented) is this was my "root" as opposed to my "re-root." By that, I mean I rooted originally with weaksauce to install firewater, but I used the Root option in Philz instead of the more discussed supersu.zip flash.
The weird thing about it was that root appeared to work properly. I got toast popups and could use things like TiBu. SuperSU said it was rooted, and Philz was passing the root check.
That should teach me from straying from the guides at all to use a feature not very well discussed.

TraderJack said:
I did update to the latest version...the way Philz works is you choose the "Re-root option" and then it tells you to go and install SuperSU from the store. The only thing I may have done wrong (or misunderstood since it isn't well documented) is this was my "root" as opposed to my "re-root." By that, I mean I rooted originally with weaksauce to install firewater, but I used the Root option in Philz instead of the more discussed supersu.zip flash.
The weird thing about it was that root appeared to work properly. I got toast popups and could use things like TiBu. SuperSU said it was rooted, and Philz was passing the root check.
That should teach me from straying from the guides at all to use a feature not very well discussed.
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Can't say I ever used that option, it probably just didn't flash it correctly. You may want to post the problem in the recovery thread so they know about it.
In theory it should've worked the same way as flashing the zip. The only thing I could think of is how old the binary was or the location of the flash was incorrect.
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