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SuperSu vs Super User

I have find a new supersu here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23427715
It is working good so far. Is it possible to remove the original super user bundeled with the custom roms. Or it can get some bad effect on custom rom.

Yerp saw this back in march...see it's been updated....:thumbup:
Thx

Probably not that great. Superuser is used universally for a reason.

wayzata said:
Probably not that great. Superuser is used universally for a reason.
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guess you know this because.....
Actual it is....but you prob installed it and ran it huh?

I have deleted the /system/app/SuperUser.apk through Root Explorer
SuperSu is working fine.
(It should only be done after installing SuperSU from the market, then run it a popup will come up asking to update binary say yes.)

Bought it a while back to support Chainfire.

wayzata said:
Probably not that great. Superuser is used universally for a reason.
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And you would be wrong. SuperSU comes from a well respected developer (Chainfire), and was created because Superuser has some major bugs that ChainsDD still hasn't fixed - such as su crashing if Android wasn't fully booted. (This was a pain for me for CM9 work when combined with their new "don't default to root in ADB" policy. ADB not going straight to root + broken su = pain)
Most I9100 and N7000 firmware developers have switched over, and when on Touchwiz firmwares I have too. Superuser's one advantage - it's open source which is why it is in CM9, I don't believe SuperSU is.

Entropy512 said:
And you would be wrong. SuperSU comes from a well respected developer (Chainfire), and was created because Superuser has some major bugs that ChainsDD still hasn't fixed - such as su crashing if Android wasn't fully booted. (This was a ****ing pain in the ass for me for CM9 work when combined with their new "don't default to root in ADB" policy. ADB not going straight to root + broken su = pain)
Most I9100 and N7000 firmware developers have switched over, and when on Touchwiz firmwares I have too. Superuser's one advantage - it's open source which is why it is in CM9, I don't believe SuperSU is.
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Would you recommend using SuperSU over superuser in CM9?

stratatak7 said:
Would you recommend using SuperSU over superuser in CM9?
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Not in CM9

Entropy512 said:
Not in CM9
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so for any ROM other than cm9, you recommend it? and if so, how would you recommend we install? i assume we need to install it first, then update, then delete the "regular superuser"?

TDuran said:
so for any ROM other than cm9, you recommend it? and if so, how would you recommend we install? i assume we need to install it first, then update, then delete the "regular superuser"?
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Just for kicks, I installed it and tried it. This probably isn't the "proper" method and you could possibly mess something up but anyway here is what I did: 1. Delete superuser.apk from your app folder in /system. 2. In Play store download superSU and install. It will ask you to update binaries. Do it and you should be golden.
**Delete files at your own risk** I used Root explorer and make sure you mount app folder as r/w before deleting and then put it back to normal when you're done.

failed... on galnet miui.. time to reinstall old SU

I have flashed the infusion kernel and old super user came back again. It means rooted kernel got Super User pre-packed with them

Working great for me on the infuse and the nook. Both cm9. CF is a great dev.
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ndhanta said:
I have flashed the infusion kernel and old super user came back again. It means rooted kernel got Super User pre-packed with them
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Yes. Many Rom devs include SU.
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ndhanta said:
I have flashed the infusion kernel and old super user came back again. It means rooted kernel got Super User pre-packed with them
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This is one of the reasons I removed autorooting from my kernels.
In my case, I just flashed the CWM-flashable SuperSU package in CWM - It will automatically remove legacy Superuser I believe.
I personally would like to see it in CM9 (or at least the Superuser problems that caused Chainfire to write SuperSU fixed) - but I believe that the free version of Superuser is open source while SuperSU is not (I could be wrong about this).

I am not getting any source information of SuperSu. It seems closed source.

Entropy512 said:
This is one of the reasons I removed autorooting from my kernels.
In my case, I just flashed the CWM-flashable SuperSU package in CWM - It will automatically remove legacy Superuser I believe.
I personally would like to see it in CM9 (or at least the Superuser problems that caused Chainfire to write SuperSU fixed) - but I believe that the free version of Superuser is open source while SuperSU is not (I could be wrong about this).
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SuperSU is free on the market (there is also a $$ pro version). I'm seeing the same thing ndhanta is with the infusion kernel. There is a script called install_su.sh which does the old ef su install but I haven't been able to track down the parent script that calls it, or figure out where the $source and $dest variables are being set... I'm assuming it may be possible to stop the script from performing the su install by changing the modify date of the file specified in the $dest var.
Any chance a version of the 4.4.12 GB kernel might materialize that supports OC? (Or an update to the infusion kernel that removes the su installer?) This would help eliminate the issue...

I just Re-rooted my SGS2 and I now have SU and SuperSU ??
Im assuming that SuperSU was installed automatically with the root ROM??
I have puirchased the Pro Version of SU .. so is it safe to Remove SuperSU without messing something up ?

Yes no problem
Just update the binaries of SU.

superuser 3.0.7 doesnt work

I tried upgrading from su 2.6.3.1 to superuser 3.0.7 over the weekend and after flashing 3.0.7 , none of my apps that required root work - is there a way around this [im using the latest update (1.63...)] Id like to update but seems stuck with older version for now - at least it works.
I did see a Superuser elite in the market... does the new version require you to pay for the license to get root (not that its about money but im just curious)?
Also yes there us an "update fixer" which requires root privileges which the new 3.0.7 version doesnt provide so i cant use that.

try flashing su in recovery http://androidsu.com/superuser/

yeah thats exactly what i did...
I rooted my phone long ago and just got the new update so had to reroot it after installation... which seemed to work fine (with the older su-2.6.3.1) but sadly now that i got this nonworking superuser 3.0.7 (elf).zip in my phone none of my apps that need root access work
At this point im trying to figure how to go back to the older version (unless i can get this one working). Was just hoping i dont have to start all over as i cant even seem to reflash the older version - as it now gives me errors. Might just have to wipe the phone and start all over with the update.
But yeah so I updated the latest htc update and had to reroot my phone, I was able to flash the su-2.6.3.1 via CMR and this worked fine. It seems as i should have stopped there as i saw that the 2.6.3.1 is an older version, so i tried flashing the latest 3.0.7 (elf) superuser -(which appeared to install just fine) but now I dont seem to have root anymore (although i see the superuser app - none of my apps that require superuser work). Ideas? Using adb .. I do see proper permissions on su at /system/bin but - for some reason SU is not working.

Did you make regular Nandroid backups?
You should have made a Nandroid backup through CWM after installation of Superuser 2.6.3.1. I take it this isn't the case, because that backup would mean you could perform a factory restore, reflash CWM, and restore the backup. Any time you are making changes to your phone, backup before and along the way, just in case something like this happens. Titanium has its uses, but if your phone environment gets borked and you can't use it, it kind of defeats the purpose. Nandroid backups are more reliable in my book, and aren't app-dependent.
Sounds like you will have to start from scratch, although I'm unsure as to why Superuser 3.0.7 didn't work as expected. Possibly there was a conflict in moving from 2.6.3.1 to the newer version. I don't know of any specific problems 3.0.7 has with the MT4GS, and I'm running it on my phone with the latest binary without any problems. I do get an error message for one app, Quick Boot, when I use it to boot into recovery, but that doesn't stop the app from functioning as expected. I think that difficulty is related to the app itself and not Superuser.
Hopefully someone with a little more Superuser experience will chime in here. I'm afraid I don't have any ideas beyond the above.
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steve_77 said:
It seems as i should have stopped there as i saw that the 2.6.3.1 is an older version, so i tried flashing the latest 3.0.7 (elf) superuser -(which appeared to install just fine) but now I dont seem to have root anymore (although i see the superuser app - none of my apps that require superuser work). Ideas? Using adb .. I do see proper permissions on su at /system/bin but - for some reason SU is not working.
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I had a similar problem before with SU after switching ROMs. Don't know if it might help but with Titanium Backup it showed that I had no busybox so I dl'ed busybox then SU wouldn't allow the apps to gain root access. Couldn't figure out what the problem was at all. Then I went to the SU app then saw that under the apps that were allowed or disallowed root access, the SU app itself was there. Once I deleted it from the list all the other apps that needed access worked fine. Hope that helps...

KingCheetah said:
You should have made a Nandroid backup through CWM after installation of Superuser 2.6.3.1.
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Yeah i know - as fate would have it this is the one time i did not make a backup yet as i was hoping to gut out all the crap apps before doing a backup. Guess ill need to get more religious with the backups.
manimmal
Yeah i had Titanium Backup running with busy box before i had the "bright" idea to upgrade to 3.0.7 - but i guess i could try that but likely i might have to start-over from scratch (and forget about the 3.0.7 version) - unless anyone has any other ideas.
The only thing I can think of is perhaps the first su was flashed using one version of CMR and the second another version of CMR (updated after i installed rom manager perhaps)?
Even more interesting is the "su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed" with su having a datestamp of 8/17/2010; while the "Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed2" su version has a datestamp of 2/29/2008 - which seems a bit weird....

steve_77 said:
I tried upgrading from su 2.6.3.1 to superuser 3.0.7 over the weekend and after flashing 3.0.7 , none of my apps that required root work - is there a way around this [im using the latest update (1.63...)] Id like to update but seems stuck with older version for now - at least it works.
I did see a Superuser elite in the market... does the new version require you to pay for the license to get root (not that its about money but im just curious)?
Also yes there us an "update fixer" which requires root privileges which the new 3.0.7 version doesnt provide so i cant use that.
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I'm running Superuser v3.0.7 with no problem, I flashed it in recovery. It has the su binary 3.0.3.2.

Fuzi0719 said:
I'm running Superuser v3.0.7 with no problem, I flashed it in recovery. It has the su binary 3.0.3.2.
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do you still have the exact same zip file you used to install 3.0.7 ? (perhaps you have a slightly different one then whats available on the website)
I have no doubt that it works on some peoples devices, but i just dont know why it doesn't work on my device. I am pretty much running stock rom with the latest htc update, CMR 5.0.2.7 , rom manager 5.0.0.6 , superuser 2.3.6.1, su binary 2.3.1-ef - this works ( i have root) but if i boot into recovery and install the latest su for froyo 3.0.7 I loose root. (made nandroid backup this time)
I was thinking of trying to use chainsdd "su update fixer" in the market - but dont know how to use this app.. if it helps in debug i am also having a hard time installing busybox. i use "partitions info lite" to check status of my partitions, root access, and that i have busybox installed... i tried installing it via "busybox" [Stephen (Stericson)], which didnt seem to be recognized so uninstalled and tried "busybox installer" [JRummy16] - they are probably separate issues but who knows...

steve_77 said:
... and install the latest su for froyo 3.0.7 I loose root. ...
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You answered your own question.
Froyo was the version of Android that predates Gingerbread.
The only official release of software for this device is on Gingerbread.
We are moving forward into Ice Cream Sandwich, but not officially.
You are basically trying to install a Windows 7 Program on Windows 95, to craft an analogy.
Stick with the gingerbread release of superuser.
The reason why the version is higher is because for the Froyo version of Android it went through more iterations.
Shame I didn't see this thread sooner, someone else had this same issue a while ago and I gave the same answer, should be around here somewhere. Would have saved you some trouble.

Some confusion here, I think...
Here's what is at ChainsDD's official site, http://androidsu.com/superuser/
Eclair/Froyo/Gingerbread/Honeycomb/IceCreamSandwich (2.1 – 4.0.3)
md5: fc462fa0630379edbe10006b1d19d9b1
Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip | mirror | RM Web Connect
binary only
md5: 26d08a253f1883c13561d173094d70b9
su-bin-3.0.3.2-efghi-signed.zip | mirror | RM Web Connect​
The lines after the md5 codes are links for the zip files. Superuser 3.0.7, according to the dev, is applicable to all flavors of Android as listed. This is also the exact file that I flashed and am using on my phone. There is a separate file for Donut 1.6, and it also is designated 3.0.7, but with a slightly different filename: Superuser-3.0.7-d-signed.zip.
I still think updating from 2.3.6.1 is part of the problem. If you go straight to 3.0.7 after your reformatting, it should work properly.
Also, Manimal's suggestion to check that Superuser isn't disallowed within the app itself is a great idea. It's weird, but an easy fix if this is the case.
I believe the update fixer Chains has available is to correct problems with the Superuser app updating new binaries. I don't think this would be of benefit to your situation.
Chains would be the best source for help, I think; an e-mail couldn't hurt --
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2.3.4 is froyo right?
Either way the one i installed (i.e. Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip) was from the official site (http://androidsu.com/superuser)
which according to the notes shouldn't matter which version as long as its not 1.6 which it certainly isnt as its 2.3.4
will try it again... but thanks for the reply

So why not install the working version, and then just update the binary from within the app?
That would be one way.
Sent from a digital distance.

steve_77 said:
2.3.4 is froyo right?
Either way the one i installed (i.e. Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip) was from the official site (http://androidsu.com/superuser)
which according to the notes shouldn't matter which version as long as its not 1.6 which it certainly isnt as its 2.3.4
will try it again... but thanks for the reply
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Android 2.3.X is Gingerbread. Froyo is 2.2.X. Anyway, the SU you have SHOULD work, it is the same as I used. Have you tried flashing it via fastboot? I simply flashed the 3.0.7 version via recovery when I installed my ROM (stock 1.63.531.2).

Help with wiping and/or reinstalling busybox

Hey guys and gals,
I've got a 7.7 on stock ROM rooted using the original root method the day I purchased the tablet. I've been using my tablet happily for over a month now.
Unfortunately, late last night I opened up Google Play and started updating all my apps, including Busybox by stericson. There was a new busybox version out (1.20.1) and I decided to install it using "Smart install." I'm not sure if it tried to install to /system/bin or /system/xbin but after the install I saw the app give me an error message explaining that the install was unsuccessful. Anyways, now a lot of my root-requiring apps including Titanium Backup Pro is not functioning at all. It seems that my BusyBox installation is corrupt.
I tried using BusyBox Pro by stericson to uninstall but the corrupt busybox seems to have prevented a proper uninstall, so it still lingers. I downloaded JadeEyedWolf's root.zip from his pinned "Root" post which includes SU & BusyBox thinking that installing the root.zip from CWM Recovery would over-write the corrupt busybox. After flashing I rebooted the tablet and I still got the same corrupt busybox issues.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
Edit: The corrupt busybox causes the Wifi to show Error when I try to turn on the radio. Not that internet is vital in repairing the tablet, but I've worked around it by tethering Bluetooth internet off of my OG HTC Evo 4G. It's strange though - I can peruse websites and view the items in the Google Play Store but it will never actually download, though the "Downloading --- " bar does display.

I had the same problem, stock rom as well. If you check the reviews for Stericson's Busybox on Google Play, the two top ones a few minutes ago both mentioned the same issue.
Trying to root again and reinstalling Superuser didn't help, neither did a factory reset (manually salvaging settings and data was a pain too).
Re-flashing the original rom fixed it, following the guide at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469635
I switched to JRummy16 Busybox installer and it seems to work.
Surprising that no one else here mentioned the problem ...

Try this fix.

To be more specific: BusyBox installer 8.0 replaces /system/bin/sh and /system/bin/ash binaries. I don't have any idea why would it do that (considering that I specified /system/xbin as an install folder), but this quick fix restores original ash binary (and sh as a symlink to it).
Installer 8.1 and above has this bug fixed.

Had the same problem with busybox and had to re-install the rom. What does this fix do?
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Already answered, see post above.

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Too late for me to try it, but thanks the same

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To be more specific: BusyBox installer 1.20.1 replaces /system/bin/sh and /system/bin/ash binaries. I don't have any idea why would it do that (considering that I specified /system/xbin as an install folder), but this quick fix restores original ash binary (and sh as a symlink to it).
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Thank you so much it works well now! You're a life-saver ginkage. Should I keep the stericson busybox 1.20.1 original install or should I use the busybox installer to install a fresh copy of 1.20.1 in /system/xbin?
Thanks again!

Thank you so much it works well now!
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That's why we are here.
Should I keep the stericson busybox 1.20.1 original install or should I use the busybox installer to install a fresh copy of 1.20.1 in /system/xbin?
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Personally I always use /system/xbin, so that some custom kernel (like CWM) could use /system/bin if it wanted to.
BTW, the BusyBox installer bug was fixed in version 8.1, and current version is 8.2, so you should update it anyway. I was wrong to mention "1.20.1" version. Post edited.

Hi guys,
First of all, I want to apologize sincerely for the bug that my application introduced in 8.0. I didn't catch the bug because my device wasn't affected by the bug.. (I always test my app myself before releasing..yet I still miss things due to devices file structure being so different.)
At any rate, the bug was that the application symlinked all applets to Busybox. Normally, this is done if you use smart install and change the settings manually. By default smart install will not overwrite applets that are not already symlinked to Busybox.
This was not a problem with Busybox 1.20.1 but was a problem with my application and how it performed the install.
Again, I am very very sorry that this has occured, as a result I am scouring the web trying to find people with the issue and help them resolve it.
If you have this problem, it can easily be fixed by reflashing your current rom. you do not have to wipe or clear any data. Once this is done, you can download my installer, version 8.1 or greater and upgrade busybox as normal.
Please let me know if you guys have any questions.
Best Regards,
Stephen - Stericson

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I too had the same situation, updated busybox then noticed something was awry when hidebar wouldn't work. My issues go way beyond broken root and WIFI, I've also been getting constant reboots. I was just about to re-install the stock rom until I read about the possible udate.zip fix. I'm very interested in how to apply the zip (I don't have CWM) being that i do extensive customization (with no backup, I know, I know) and I'd hate to re customize everything again. If I can get things right the first thing I'll do is install CWM and perform a nandroid backup.

ninpo said:
I too had the same situation, updated busybox then noticed something was awry when hidebar wouldn't work. My issues go way beyond broken root and WIFI, I've also been getting constant reboots. I was just about to re-install the stock rom until I read about the possible udate.zip fix. I'm very interested in how to apply the zip (I don't have CWM) being that i do extensive customization (with no backup, I know, I know) and I'd hate to re customize everything again. If I can get things right the first thing I'll do is install CWM and perform a nandroid backup.
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you don't need CWM, just copy the fix onto external storage card,enter recovery (PWR + Vol. up Buttons) and apply the update from there. just fixed my tablet this way

regius said:
you don't need CWM, just copy the fix onto external storage card,enter recovery (PWR + Vol. up Buttons) and apply the update from there. just fixed my tablet this way
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A thousand thanks kind sir, I'm back in business, that was pain free
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Thanks for posting this, I'm in love with my 7.7 once again.

Appreciate the response stericson. I had purchased your Pro version but even after I fixed the uninstall failed and it also did not detect superuser permissions even though SU gave a notification that Busybox Pro was granted superuser. All other root-requiring apps work. Had to refund the Pro purchase though

No problem. there seems to be an issue with the application detecting root sometimes, that's why you can still try the install.
I'm looking into this issue, it just started showing up so I am not sure what is going on.

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Really appreciate this fix. On the verge of wiping out everything....
But decide to see if its busy box since its the last thing i install before all this happens....
Just to note that uninstall busybox also doesnt solve the issue...
so need to fix.

I had a lot of problems with root permissions not being granted by Superuser app. Recently I have tried SuperSu from the market and uninstalled original Superuser app (important to follow the instructions for the App! ).
My main problem was that ntfssd was not granted root permissions at startup, so I had to start it again manually. With SuperSu it is no problem. Also I use Busybox and successfully updated to the latest binary recently.

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Thank you so much for that, I had been driven crazy and had also gone through a factory reset to try and get my device back working, to no avail. Can I ask where you got the ash you're including here? It worked for my Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 Plus, on 3.2, but is it a generic enough file that it can be dropped on nearly all Android devices without any issues arising?
I only ask out of curiosity and understanding the system more.

[Q] Why is SU binary not updating after flashing CM10.1?

I'll start out by saying I'm a total noob at this whole android rooting process, hence why I'm posting a thread here rather than posting a reply in the appropriate thread. I rooted and unlocked my phone using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709&nocache=1
I opted for the "flashing rooted stock ROM" option.
As the title of my post states, after installing CM10.1, I open superuser to update binary and everything appears to work fine until the very end, it reads "making sure new su works...fail!". Now when I restore back to rooted TW, I have no problem updating the su binary. I've tried Superuser update fixer, I've installed busybox; i cant find any other solution on Google. Any ideas?
The CM file I downloaded is: cm-10.1-20130714-NIGHTLY-d2vzw.zip
Gapps file is: gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip

Liam1987 said:
I'll start out by saying I'm a total noob at this whole android rooting process, hence why I'm posting a thread here rather than posting a reply in the appropriate thread. I rooted and unlocked my phone using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709&nocache=1
I opted for the "flashing rooted stock ROM" option.
As the title of my post states, after installing CM10.1, I open superuser to update binary and everything appears to work fine until the very end, it reads "making sure new su works...fail!". Now when I restore back to rooted TW, I have no problem updating the su binary. I've tried Superuser update fixer, I've installed busybox; i cant find any other solution on Google. Any ideas?
The CM file I downloaded is: cm-10.1-20130714-NIGHTLY-d2vzw.zip
Gapps file is: gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip
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Make sure your using the latest version of the Superuser app, another option would be to try using SuperSU as an alternative to the Superuser app. Also is root access functioning normally for you?
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Hi and thanks for the reply.
Yes superuser is up to date and I've tried supersu. Root seems to be functioning as I can open apps that require root access.
But when I try to restore missing apps via titanium backup, I get a msg saying "restore finished, 'x' elements failed". X being the number of apps I try to restore
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Check to see if the root apps are granted root access.

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Check to see if the root apps are granted root access.
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When I open SuperSU, it has a list of apps with superuser status. Is that what you mean? I can run root apps and as far as I can tell they're functioning, with the exception of when I try restoring apps with Titanium Backup
Also, right after I flashed CM10.1, I made a backup right away. Not sure if it means anything, but If I wipe/reset and restore the CM10.1 backup, and the first thing I do is try updating the binary in Superuser, it reads "checking installed version: 9 com.Android.Settings", until I open SuperSU and "update binary". Then if I go to Superuser, it'll say "checking installed version: 1.41:Superuser" as I imagine it should. But at this point I still run into "making sure new su works..fail!"
Superuser has no problem updating when I'm on my rooted stock. I'm sure I messed up somewhere along the way while flashing CM10.1, I just don't know where

[Q] Can't uninstall system apps with Titanium Backup in CM11

Hello,
i finally got my Nexus 5 today and first thing I did was unlocking the bootloader, installed TWRP custom recovery, flashed CM11-nightly and Franco Kernel (r31).
Next thing I usually do is to uninstall some apps with Titanium Backup (Pro). But I can't uninstall any system apps (e. g. Browser.apk). Titanium says "successful" but after refreshing the application list, the app is still there.
Does anyone have an idea what is going wrong here? Is it a problem with CM11's superuser or with Titanium Backup?
Thanks.

Cloonix said:
Hello,
i finally got my Nexus 5 today and first thing I did was unlocking the bootloader, installed TWRP custom recovery, flashed CM11-nightly and Franco Kernel (r31).
Next thing I usually do is to uninstall some apps with Titanium Backup (Pro). But I can't uninstall any system apps (e. g. Browser.apk). Titanium says "successful" but after refreshing the application list, the app is still there.
Does anyone have an idea what is going wrong here? Is it a problem with CM11's superuser or with Titanium Backup?
Thanks.
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What happens if you delete the file with a file manager and reboot?

Aerowinder said:
What happens if you delete the file with a file manager and reboot?
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I used Solid Explorer as a file manager and tried to delete /system/app/Browser.apk. The root-confirmation (CM11 superuser) pops up, asks for superuser (i grant) and Solid Explorer deletes the file without error. But the file is still there (without reboot).
Issue with superuser?
Edit: Stop... I noticed /system is mounted as read-only.

I tried to analyze the problem... and the only conclusion is, that my superuser is not working. Also Super SU ist not working. I also flashed Omni ROM instead of CM11 with no success. I used an older version of TWRP without success. Does anybody has an idea?
Edit: Before with Stock ROM and Super SU it was working.

I don't know why I'm the only person with this issue... But I solved it with the following steps:
1. Flash CM11 (nightly)
2. Start the OS
3. Reboot to recovery and wipe cache/dalvik
4. Install "Super SU"
5. Start the OS
Titanium Backup is asking for root rights. Other apps also didn't get root in CM11. Whenever I install a new CM11 nightly root rights for TB are gone and I have to do the same steps again.
But why no one else has this problem? I googled like crazy. Is it CM11 or me?

Me to, cm11 for a850L build on crdroid nexus4

Cloonix said:
I don't know why I'm the only person with this issue... But I solved it with the following steps:
1. Flash CM11 (nightly)
2. Start the OS
3. Reboot to recovery and wipe cache/dalvik
4. Install "Super SU"
5. Start the OS
Titanium Backup is asking for root rights. Other apps also didn't get root in CM11. Whenever I install a new CM11 nightly root rights for TB are gone and I have to do the same steps again.
But why no one else has this problem? I googled like crazy. Is it CM11 or me?
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Did you leave out Franco kernel this time?

This is the fix for your issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2592456

es0tericcha0s said:
This is the fix for your issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2592456
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Thanks a lot!
Changing selinux to "permissive" did solve all my problems. I also had issues with other applications.
How can I change the selinux mode directly in the CM11-Zip? Under Redhat/CentOS is a configuration file unter /etc/selinux. In CM11 I can't find something similar.
And how it comes that this issue is not well-known? I think there are more 4.4 KK / CM11 users with problems.
Aerowinder said:
Did you leave out Franco kernel this time?
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No I flashed Franco after CM.

Cloonix said:
Thanks a lot!
Changing selinux to "permissive" did solve all my problems. I also had issues with other applications.
How can I change the selinux mode directly in the CM11-Zip? Under Redhat/CentOS is a configuration file unter /etc/selinux. In CM11 I can't find something similar.
And how it comes that this issue is not well-known? I think there are more 4.4 KK / CM11 users with problems.
No I flashed Franco after CM.
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No problem. I know that problem was starting to annoy me. Got the idea from playing with a new Note 3. The newer Samsung 4.3 roms are like that too. If you don't change to Permissive then Xposed and other mods won't work either.
I guess it's possible that it's just something strange with certain CM11 and Franco kernel combos?

es0tericcha0s said:
I guess it's possible that it's just something strange with certain CM11 and Franco kernel combos?
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Even without Franco (which was my first guess) CM11 (my root) behaves that way.
I will look for a method to set selinux to permissive directly in the ZIP of CM11 and will update this post.

Cloonix said:
Even without Franco (which was my first guess) CM11 (my root) behaves that way.
I will look for a method to set selinux to permissive directly in the ZIP of CM11 and will update this post.
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I'd imagine adding something like this in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48006307&postcount=65 would do the trick, though I have not had that issue in awhile. I switch roms often.

es0tericcha0s said:
I'd imagine adding something like this in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48006307&postcount=65 would do the trick, though I have not had that issue in awhile. I switch roms often.
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I tried this. And it was successfully changing selinux to permissive with every reboot. But doing this I noticed that even permissive doesn't solve the problem. CM11 built-in superuser just don't work for me. Only "Super SU" by Chainfire works well. And permissive solves a few other problems besides TiBa.

Personally I've always eventually had issues with Superuser unmounting the system as rw causing issues with apps like Titanium. Had it happen many many times on my old phone as well as the Nexus 5 across multiple ROMs. I just stick with SuperSU now.

Haven't had too many issues with that part it seems, but glad you narrowed down the problems.

I find this issue sometimes on varous flashes of CM 11 on different devices.
I use ROM toolbox fo manage apps, and sometimes it just wont delete. The solution is strange: I install adaway - somehow, that "unlocks" something that lets you delete apps. You can uninstall adaway once you have run it!

Galaxy Nexus
I'm replying just to help out anyone who has this issue, but doesn't have a Nexus 5. I was trying to find a fix for me and my Galaxy Nexus running the latest Paranoid Android beta 4.4.2 because I kept having this same problem.. It wouldn't uninstall... and I would only keep getting directed to this specific post. So....
I tried the 'selinux' fix first, and that alone would not do a thing...
I then tried installing the 'Wanam Xposed' app and it worked perfectly.
Just change selinux to permissive and make sure both selinux and Wanam have SU access and then try to uninstall via Titanium... or whatever method you usually use.
Hope it's okay for me to post here. Thanks for the help, everyone!

es0tericcha0s said:
No problem. I know that problem was starting to annoy me. Got the idea from playing with a new Note 3. The newer Samsung 4.3 roms are like that too. If you don't change to Permissive then Xposed and other mods won't work either.
I guess it's possible that it's just something strange with certain CM11 and Franco kernel combos?
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Hi,
unfortunately the SElinuxModeChanger seems not to work for me (Samsung Galaxy S2, CM 11 m6) and I do not really get how I should install Supersu (the first described solution). I guess I should not just install it from the play store - right? But were do I get an installable zip-file to install it from the CWM?
Or is there anything else that might be wrong in my system - so that I do not need to install supersu at all?
regards
Daniel

daniu said:
Hi,
unfortunately the SElinuxModeChanger seems not to work for me (Samsung Galaxy S2, CM 11 m6) and I do not really get how I should install Supersu (the first described solution). I guess I should not just install it from the play store - right? But were do I get an installable zip-file to install it from the CWM?
Or is there anything else that might be wrong in my system - so that I do not need to install supersu at all?
regards
Daniel
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If you are already using CM11, then yes, you can install SuperSu from the Play Store. Once you do and open the app, it will prompt you to update the SuperUser binary. You should be able to do the "normal" method, and then once that updates, reboot, then try the SELinux app again and then everything should start to work like you would expect. If the normal method doesn't work, then you can let it download the newest zip for you if you choose the CWM/TWRP method, and then boot to recovery and install the zip it downloads for you.

SeEsAw12 said:
I'm replying just to help out anyone who has this issue, but doesn't have a Nexus 5. I was trying to find a fix for me and my Galaxy Nexus running the latest Paranoid Android beta 4.4.2 because I kept having this same problem.. It wouldn't uninstall... and I would only keep getting directed to this specific post. So....
I tried the 'selinux' fix first, and that alone would not do a thing...
I then tried installing the 'Wanam Xposed' app and it worked perfectly.
Just change selinux to permissive and make sure both selinux and Wanam have SU access and then try to uninstall via Titanium... or whatever method you usually use.
Hope it's okay for me to post here. Thanks for the help, everyone!
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No clue why, but this worked for me. Permissive didn't do it (was already permissive using CM 11 for tf201) and AdAway didn't do it. Didn't matter that Wanam Xposed is for Samsung devices, once given root to this app, Titanium got its head out of its rump.
UPD: So, if i uninstall Wanam Xposed then TB sticks its head back up its rump. Whatever giving root to that app does, its fixing usage issues with TB.