I rooted my Zoom wifi long ago. Flashed all the various Tiamat kernels and followed bigrushdog's 3.1 update with no problems. I recently flashed the CWR RC 4 over the updated 4.0.1 version in Rom Manager. I now see that all my apps requiring root don't work. I have Super user app but don't get the request to grant su anymore. I tried upgrading Super user within the app but it fails and writes a zip update to SD card which is supposed to be flashed through Recovery but doesn't (I suspect because the file is a 0 byte file!).
Any suggestions on how to get root back?
[Solved]: Seems it was a result of trying to upgrade Superuser that I lost root. See the last post below and the solution Almighty1 offers. It worked and I have root back......
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tangiers said:
I rooted my Zoom wifi long ago. Flashed all the various Tiamat kernels and followed bigrushdog's 3.1 update with no problems. I recently flashed the CWR RC 4 over the updated 4.0.1 version in Rom Manager. I now see that all my apps requiring root don't work. I have Super user app but don't get the request to grant su anymore. I tried upgrading Super user within the app but it fails and writes a zip update to SD card which is supposed to be flashed through Recovery but doesn't (I suspect because the file is a 0 byte file!).
Any suggestions on how to get root back?
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There is a problem with the latest recovery version in Rom Manager. The recovery from solarnz is probably not at fault, but maybe the interaction of the two. You wil lneed someone with more knowledge than me to help you get root back, but this issue really needs attention. There are several updates to apps that seem to be breaking our Xooms, and there should be pinned warnings or the developers should be making everyone aware of these conflicts as soon as they find out. I had problems and I'm sure a lot of other folks have have problems with these incompatible app updates as well.
Thanks for that. It almost seems like Superuser is "degrading" in the sense that I had a number of apps reflected in the Superuser app as having been granted root (but not Rom Manager). However, I couldn't add new apps to it. And when I cleared Superuser data and reinstalled it, none of the apps that required root (and which had worked before) would work.
I also think that the writing of a 0 byte zip update file by the Superuser app indicates a problem.
I suspect the solution may lie with fastboot and re-pushing Superuser and CHMOD(?) file permissions but like you, I am nervous to play with these sort of things. My Xoom is working and until I have the need to change the ROM, root doesn't matter to me....
after reading this I checked and also had lost root. I had not checked after after flashing 4.0 in rom manger. Superuser was still there but my apps did not have access. I tried flash a new recovery, reflashing Tiamat nether worked. Anyway from adb
adb remount
adb push su /system/bin/
adb shell
chmod 4755 /system/bin/su
exit
adb push Superuser.apk /system/app/
I then rebooted and had root... updated Superuser as I had an older one in my platform-tools and all is well I then flashed the lastest recovery in rom manger and still have root.
Hope this helps
Thanks. I will give it a try this evening when I get back from work.
Also found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14643716&postcount=340 which seems similar to your solution.
This is why I hate CWR. I wish we had Amon RA recovery.
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Thunderbolt: after rooting, I can run root manager, flash thunderbolt cwm, boot into cwm and backup/etc. However, when I try to run TiBackup or Screen Resolution, or even terminal/su - access denied, device not rooted.
Anyone else experiencing this?
EDIT: read in another thread (search was not working when I posted this originally) to go to problems in TiBackup, then update busybox...
Go into rom manager. Download SU and flash it in clockwork. Should fix ya.
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ethanwinkley said:
Thunderbolt: after rooting, I can run root manager, flash thunderbolt cwm, boot into cwm and backup/etc. However, when I try to run TiBackup or Screen Resolution, or even terminal/su - access denied, device not rooted.
Anyone else experiencing this?
EDIT: read in another thread (search was not working when I posted this originally) to go to problems in TiBackup, then update busybox...
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You could search market for busybox and install busybox and install busybox 1.18.3 then try
Just click Problems? in the bottom right of Titanium and let it install busybox for you. I was able to do that and restore all my apps.
Seems like you solved it for you, but for future reference for others, if you're having issues with Titanium only, it could be a the busybox problem, but if other root apps give issues (like Root Explorer can't mount /system as r/w), then the issue is with su or SuperUser not being installed properly.
I had to reboot twice after rooting before SuperUser apk got the notification requests to allow Titanium and RE to get su rights. After that, no problems.
In a nutshell, if you're not getting the SuperUser pop-up request on apps the first time you run them, your su isn't working right yet.
Delete please.
would have just asked in :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142872&page=67
but i don't have enough posts, and don't want to spam a bunch of useless "cool" posts to get my count up.
Anyways,I did every thing in that topic and have CM7 running fine on my Cell South Showcase. But, i don't seem to have root access superuser is there but seems to do nothing. i tried checking via the terminal with just a "su" command and got nothing. Tried Superoneclick (my go to rooter for awhile) and it just hangs at "looking for device" . and, Z4 seems to not work with 2.3.4 phones.
So is there any fix to this, or have i just hit some crazy bug?
I have seen some people allude to changing the kernel, but the last time i tried to upgrade/change the kernel on this phone i had to save it via odin
Don't you HAVE to be rooted in order to run cm7?
i know, it breaks all logic
i just know i cant grant superuser to anything, busybox installer says it isnt rooted, and Titanium cant do anything
thenumber5 said:
i know, it breaks all logic
i just know i cant grant superuser to anything, busybox installer says it isnt rooted, and Titanium cant do anything
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Clear data on superuser app and/or uninstall/reinstall it.
Ah,I see.. yes, try above. If no. Maybe wipe and reflash?
ok cleared the data, did nothing
can you ever uninstall/reinstall superuser?
thenumber5 said:
ok cleared the data, did nothing
can you ever uninstall/reinstall superuser?
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Yup just an app
Also:
i have already flashed via Odin back to stock once and did the whole CM7 flash again from a fully clean rom
ok, Flashed Superuser 3.0 beta 3
no go, says my SU binary is out of date, and the app crashes when it tries to update it
checked my bin and xbin, both have a "SU" file in them
in terminal when i CD in to both folders and try to run "SU" i get an error that looks like it is trying to relocate a library and failing to do so
Can i just download the new SU binary my self and manual drop it in to the folders?
well that didnt work, cant modify anything in the system folder so i cant delete that old "SU" and replace it with the one from the superuser 3.0 apk
LOL
well i got it to let me replace the SU in /bin but not in /xbin
so now i got some half confused phone, i can grate Superuser "superuser" but when it tries to update or do any thing the log says "gaining root access....fail"
i still dont know how i have have a CM7 phone that by it very nature is rooted that thinks it is not rooted
ok for anyone who cares, i just gave up flashed via odin back to stock and tried the MIUI port, worked great once i fangled MMS in to working again
I had a similar problem, at which point I grabbed stericson's busybox app from the market which allowed me to flash a working busybox which after a reboot or two and running the installer again fixed me up..there is an app called root checker that can give info on su, superuser.apk, and busybox installs
I am almost positive that when I used jrummys busybox installer our killed root access on my phone. I had superuser.apk but without busybox it was rather useless as no apps could get root. the fix was flashing busybox 1.19.0 and leaving it in xbin and letting the app do its thing once I had rebooted.. then I rebooted again and everything was fine! after bring rooted for so long I don't think I could function without it!
for others out there, my experience has been this: stay weary of the jrummy busybox installer...its never given me anything but problems...and honestly unless busybox is borked, or ya have a damn good reason to upgrade or downgrade my suggestion is to leave it! the potential problems that can arise (for me every time, using jrummy's version..3 times) can be a pain!
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i had the same issue but dont recall if it was CM7 that did it or not but i think it was.
i had to completely blow out the phone and start from scratch.
if i recall, CM7 uses a different version of SuperUser and it just want bonkers on me but completely blowing everything out reformatting and everything seemed to work.
If you're on CM7 already, you should be rooted. If not, try SuperOneClick (Google).
There have been a couple similar posts, but none seem to provide any help, so I apologize for creating a new one if the answer is already out there.
With that said, I recently purchased a new LG Nitro HD and promptly used SuperOneClick to root it. Everything seemed to work fine (on the first try); I rebooted the phone, SU was there, all seemed well. The first thing I tried to use the root access for was to change the LCD Density, and that didn't work - so I tried to update the BusyBox on my phone, using "BusyBox Installer". After I did that, my root access seemed to "break", by which I mean superuser is still installed, and SuperOneClick reports my phone as rooted, but SuperUser cannot authorize apps (or doesn't even try) and attempting to run an app that requires root access simply fails, suggesting that my phone is not rooted. Typically, I would ODIN the SOB and be done with it, but I cannot find any PIT files for the Nitro HD (and I am assuming that would be necessary for me to do anything with ODIN). I've also tried using SuperOneClick to unroot and reroot the device, but now it hangs on step 7 every single time.
Does anyone out there have any suggestions at all?
I believe I fixed this issue. "Super Manager" appears to use its own busybox, which is enough to open the system directory in r/w mode and delete the busybox directory from system/xbin. This seems to have restored root access, though a lot of apps are still not working for me. Still, apps are prompting for su access and are showing up in su's list of approved apps - which is more than I could get before.
Please advise - I am seeing this as well
SolusCado said:
I believe I fixed this issue. "Super Manager" appears to use its own busybox, which is enough to open the system directory in r/w mode and delete the busybox directory from system/xbin. This seems to have restored root access, though a lot of apps are still not working for me. Still, apps are prompting for su access and are showing up in su's list of approved apps - which is more than I could get before.
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The new MeanROM ICS uses the new SuperUser - however, it breaks root access as you mention. Please advise the corrective action. Send PM if ncessary
I tried upgrading from su 2.6.3.1 to superuser 3.0.7 over the weekend and after flashing 3.0.7 , none of my apps that required root work - is there a way around this [im using the latest update (1.63...)] Id like to update but seems stuck with older version for now - at least it works.
I did see a Superuser elite in the market... does the new version require you to pay for the license to get root (not that its about money but im just curious)?
Also yes there us an "update fixer" which requires root privileges which the new 3.0.7 version doesnt provide so i cant use that.
try flashing su in recovery http://androidsu.com/superuser/
yeah thats exactly what i did...
I rooted my phone long ago and just got the new update so had to reroot it after installation... which seemed to work fine (with the older su-2.6.3.1) but sadly now that i got this nonworking superuser 3.0.7 (elf).zip in my phone none of my apps that need root access work
At this point im trying to figure how to go back to the older version (unless i can get this one working). Was just hoping i dont have to start all over as i cant even seem to reflash the older version - as it now gives me errors. Might just have to wipe the phone and start all over with the update.
But yeah so I updated the latest htc update and had to reroot my phone, I was able to flash the su-2.6.3.1 via CMR and this worked fine. It seems as i should have stopped there as i saw that the 2.6.3.1 is an older version, so i tried flashing the latest 3.0.7 (elf) superuser -(which appeared to install just fine) but now I dont seem to have root anymore (although i see the superuser app - none of my apps that require superuser work). Ideas? Using adb .. I do see proper permissions on su at /system/bin but - for some reason SU is not working.
Did you make regular Nandroid backups?
You should have made a Nandroid backup through CWM after installation of Superuser 2.6.3.1. I take it this isn't the case, because that backup would mean you could perform a factory restore, reflash CWM, and restore the backup. Any time you are making changes to your phone, backup before and along the way, just in case something like this happens. Titanium has its uses, but if your phone environment gets borked and you can't use it, it kind of defeats the purpose. Nandroid backups are more reliable in my book, and aren't app-dependent.
Sounds like you will have to start from scratch, although I'm unsure as to why Superuser 3.0.7 didn't work as expected. Possibly there was a conflict in moving from 2.6.3.1 to the newer version. I don't know of any specific problems 3.0.7 has with the MT4GS, and I'm running it on my phone with the latest binary without any problems. I do get an error message for one app, Quick Boot, when I use it to boot into recovery, but that doesn't stop the app from functioning as expected. I think that difficulty is related to the app itself and not Superuser.
Hopefully someone with a little more Superuser experience will chime in here. I'm afraid I don't have any ideas beyond the above.
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steve_77 said:
It seems as i should have stopped there as i saw that the 2.6.3.1 is an older version, so i tried flashing the latest 3.0.7 (elf) superuser -(which appeared to install just fine) but now I dont seem to have root anymore (although i see the superuser app - none of my apps that require superuser work). Ideas? Using adb .. I do see proper permissions on su at /system/bin but - for some reason SU is not working.
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I had a similar problem before with SU after switching ROMs. Don't know if it might help but with Titanium Backup it showed that I had no busybox so I dl'ed busybox then SU wouldn't allow the apps to gain root access. Couldn't figure out what the problem was at all. Then I went to the SU app then saw that under the apps that were allowed or disallowed root access, the SU app itself was there. Once I deleted it from the list all the other apps that needed access worked fine. Hope that helps...
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You should have made a Nandroid backup through CWM after installation of Superuser 2.6.3.1.
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Yeah i know - as fate would have it this is the one time i did not make a backup yet as i was hoping to gut out all the crap apps before doing a backup. Guess ill need to get more religious with the backups.
manimmal
Yeah i had Titanium Backup running with busy box before i had the "bright" idea to upgrade to 3.0.7 - but i guess i could try that but likely i might have to start-over from scratch (and forget about the 3.0.7 version) - unless anyone has any other ideas.
The only thing I can think of is perhaps the first su was flashed using one version of CMR and the second another version of CMR (updated after i installed rom manager perhaps)?
Even more interesting is the "su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed" with su having a datestamp of 8/17/2010; while the "Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed2" su version has a datestamp of 2/29/2008 - which seems a bit weird....
steve_77 said:
I tried upgrading from su 2.6.3.1 to superuser 3.0.7 over the weekend and after flashing 3.0.7 , none of my apps that required root work - is there a way around this [im using the latest update (1.63...)] Id like to update but seems stuck with older version for now - at least it works.
I did see a Superuser elite in the market... does the new version require you to pay for the license to get root (not that its about money but im just curious)?
Also yes there us an "update fixer" which requires root privileges which the new 3.0.7 version doesnt provide so i cant use that.
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I'm running Superuser v3.0.7 with no problem, I flashed it in recovery. It has the su binary 3.0.3.2.
Fuzi0719 said:
I'm running Superuser v3.0.7 with no problem, I flashed it in recovery. It has the su binary 3.0.3.2.
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do you still have the exact same zip file you used to install 3.0.7 ? (perhaps you have a slightly different one then whats available on the website)
I have no doubt that it works on some peoples devices, but i just dont know why it doesn't work on my device. I am pretty much running stock rom with the latest htc update, CMR 5.0.2.7 , rom manager 5.0.0.6 , superuser 2.3.6.1, su binary 2.3.1-ef - this works ( i have root) but if i boot into recovery and install the latest su for froyo 3.0.7 I loose root. (made nandroid backup this time)
I was thinking of trying to use chainsdd "su update fixer" in the market - but dont know how to use this app.. if it helps in debug i am also having a hard time installing busybox. i use "partitions info lite" to check status of my partitions, root access, and that i have busybox installed... i tried installing it via "busybox" [Stephen (Stericson)], which didnt seem to be recognized so uninstalled and tried "busybox installer" [JRummy16] - they are probably separate issues but who knows...
steve_77 said:
... and install the latest su for froyo 3.0.7 I loose root. ...
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You answered your own question.
Froyo was the version of Android that predates Gingerbread.
The only official release of software for this device is on Gingerbread.
We are moving forward into Ice Cream Sandwich, but not officially.
You are basically trying to install a Windows 7 Program on Windows 95, to craft an analogy.
Stick with the gingerbread release of superuser.
The reason why the version is higher is because for the Froyo version of Android it went through more iterations.
Shame I didn't see this thread sooner, someone else had this same issue a while ago and I gave the same answer, should be around here somewhere. Would have saved you some trouble.
Some confusion here, I think...
Here's what is at ChainsDD's official site, http://androidsu.com/superuser/
Eclair/Froyo/Gingerbread/Honeycomb/IceCreamSandwich (2.1 – 4.0.3)
md5: fc462fa0630379edbe10006b1d19d9b1
Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip | mirror | RM Web Connect
binary only
md5: 26d08a253f1883c13561d173094d70b9
su-bin-3.0.3.2-efghi-signed.zip | mirror | RM Web Connect​
The lines after the md5 codes are links for the zip files. Superuser 3.0.7, according to the dev, is applicable to all flavors of Android as listed. This is also the exact file that I flashed and am using on my phone. There is a separate file for Donut 1.6, and it also is designated 3.0.7, but with a slightly different filename: Superuser-3.0.7-d-signed.zip.
I still think updating from 2.3.6.1 is part of the problem. If you go straight to 3.0.7 after your reformatting, it should work properly.
Also, Manimal's suggestion to check that Superuser isn't disallowed within the app itself is a great idea. It's weird, but an easy fix if this is the case.
I believe the update fixer Chains has available is to correct problems with the Superuser app updating new binaries. I don't think this would be of benefit to your situation.
Chains would be the best source for help, I think; an e-mail couldn't hurt --
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2.3.4 is froyo right?
Either way the one i installed (i.e. Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip) was from the official site (http://androidsu.com/superuser)
which according to the notes shouldn't matter which version as long as its not 1.6 which it certainly isnt as its 2.3.4
will try it again... but thanks for the reply
So why not install the working version, and then just update the binary from within the app?
That would be one way.
Sent from a digital distance.
steve_77 said:
2.3.4 is froyo right?
Either way the one i installed (i.e. Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip) was from the official site (http://androidsu.com/superuser)
which according to the notes shouldn't matter which version as long as its not 1.6 which it certainly isnt as its 2.3.4
will try it again... but thanks for the reply
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Android 2.3.X is Gingerbread. Froyo is 2.2.X. Anyway, the SU you have SHOULD work, it is the same as I used. Have you tried flashing it via fastboot? I simply flashed the 3.0.7 version via recovery when I installed my ROM (stock 1.63.531.2).
I tried searching on the forum for a13 allwinners zeepad 7.0 but can't find anything.
I bought this from amazon,
Android version:
4.0.4
Model number:
A13MID
Kernel Version: 3.0.8
Can someone help me root this tablet?
Anyone? :|
Baoish said:
Anyone? :|
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Zeepad comes rooted already, at least mine did...install superuser from market and any app that needs root permission, if your able to grant such permissions your rooted. Sorry i cant remember the command for adb or terminal emulator to get this answer quicker...
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deeno33 said:
Zeepad comes rooted already, at least mine did...install superuser from market and any app that needs root permission, if your able to grant such permissions your rooted. Sorry i cant remember the command for adb or terminal emulator to get this answer quicker...
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So, just install su and it will work?
deeno33 said:
Zeepad comes rooted already, at least mine did...install superuser from market and any app that needs root permission, if your able to grant such permissions your rooted. Sorry i cant remember the command for adb or terminal emulator to get this answer quicker...
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My daughter just got one of these devices for Christmas, as well. I saw this post as well and thought "Great, I don't have to do the part" so, I installed SuperUser, when I went to update the su binary, which was shown as "Legacy" it got all the way to where it needs to remount the / file system as rw, and to my surprise, it wont remount. Another thing I noticed was that even though it does have su installed, I can't get to the point to where the app even asks for root permission. I tried to update Busybox, as well, and it wouldn't let me even do that... The version which is installed to the tablet appears to be 1.18, but when SuperUser goes to update the su binary it reports back as being the same as the installed version, which I know for a fact that it is not. So while I do in fact have root, it seems to only be a partial root. Anyone willing to throw around some ideas as to where I can go from here to A) get the / file system to remount rw, and B) get SuperUser, an updated su binary and an updated Busybox installed so that I can a full root going and get down to business to installing CWM and CM10 installed and running on here for her.
Any help would be appreciated,
Matt
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meskes said:
My daughter just got one of these devices for Christmas, as well. I saw this post as well and thought "Great, I don't have to do the part" so, I installed SuperUser, when I went to update the su binary, which was shown as "Legacy" it got all the way to where it needs to remount the / file system as rw, and to my surprise, it wont remount. Another thing I noticed was that even though it does have su installed, I can't get to the point to where the app even asks for root permission. I tried to update Busybox, as well, and it wouldn't let me even do that... The version which is installed to the tablet appears to be 1.18, but when SuperUser goes to update the su binary it reports back as being the same as the installed version, which I know for a fact that it is not. So while I do in fact have root, it seems to only be a partial root. Anyone willing to throw around some ideas as to where I can go from here to A) get the / file system to remount rw, and B) get SuperUser, an updated su binary and an updated Busybox installed so that I can a full root going and get down to business to installing CWM and CM10 installed and running on here for her.
Any help would be appreciated,
Matt
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all zeepads come prerooted and shouldnt block u from updating or to have root access (download root checker) from market
Ur Binarys Should Still Update And Say Current If U Download New Binary Just Wont Show Up Till Reboot
If u Want To Stop This Error While Not Having To Reboot Everytime
Ya This IS Annoying to Do Everytime But Simple solution
THis Proplem IS Do To The Tablet Having A Stock Kernel That Doesnt Allow System Read/Write Access
This Is Why SuperUser Fails Cause It Needs Write Access To The Devices File System...(system/xbin/su)
Which means to Remount system after updating to take Affect And Most Stock Devices Do Not Allow This
so if u updated and it said current version ur ok this is to prevent anymore errors in the future
superuser can have different error witch mean different things just cuz u get one doesnt mean
they didnt take affect but remount of system is the most common error check superuser faq
1.Download Mount System R/W App From PlayStore And Install And Open.
2 .Allow Root Access To The App Then Select Mount System R/W Button
3. Press Home Button And Navigate To SuperUser App And Then Try Updating Binary
This Method Should Work For You
Hope This Works For You
As for cwm and cm9/cm10 it depends if u have a8 or a10 device a13 are not yet supported
MikeG_MG56 said:
all zeepads come prerooted and shouldnt block u from updating or to have root access (download root checker) from market
Ur Binarys Should Still Update And Say Current If U Download New Binary Just Wont Show Up Till Reboot
If u Want To Stop This Error While Not Having To Reboot Everytime
Ya This IS Annoying to Do Everytime But Simple solution
THis Proplem IS Do To The Tablet Having A Stock Kernel That Doesnt Allow System Read/Write Access
This Is Why SuperUser Fails Cause It Needs Write Access To The Devices File System...(system/xbin/su)
Which means to Remount system after updating to take Affect And Most Stock Devices Do Not Allow This
so if u updated and it said current version ur ok this is to prevent anymore errors in the future
superuser can have different error witch mean different things just cuz u get one doesnt mean
they didnt take affect but remount of system is the most common error check superuser faq
1.Download Mount System R/W App From PlayStore And Install And Open.
2 .Allow Root Access To The App Then Select Mount System R/W Button
3. Press Home Button And Navigate To SuperUser App And Then Try Updating Binary
This Method Should Work For You
Hope This Works For You
As for cwm and cm9/cm10 it depends if u have a8 or a10 device a13 are not yet supported
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Sorry for bringing up an old thread, but I got the a13 and was wondering if anyone was making a cm9/cm10 rom for it as well. I have the a13. I tried to Google and can't find any info about any custom roms for this device.
I used kingRoot version 4.1 Any newer version would not root it.