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Hey guys - im contemplating buying a new android phone but im not sure which one to choose. i'm leaning closely to the G2X but before i place my order for it - im interested in knowing if there are any flaws that people experience.. i would like to know before i buy so i can get an idea of what is the worst to expect when i get it (cuz where i am, re-sale will be difficult)
thanks for responses
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Hey guys - im contemplating buying a new android phone but im not sure which one to choose. i'm leaning closely to the G2X but before i place my order for it - im interested in knowing if there are any flaws that people experience.. i would like to know before i buy so i can get an idea of what is the worst to expect when i get it (cuz where i am, re-sale will be difficult)
thanks for responses
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There's about 2 million threads here on bugs people are experiencing.
Just one example: I just looked at my phone and it was totally shut down and wouldn't power up until I pulled the battery. First time that happened.
with every phone their will be a few bugs here and there, but if you can hold out until early june, if you like sense UI's try the htc sensation. i like this phone but i'm definitely getting that.
thanks for the responses guys - i'm looking past just software bugs (i mean, its common for android) and more worried about hardware bugs - EG, a friend of mine had a mytouch 4g with screen problems - after doing some research we discovered that there were two versions of the mytouch4g and one of them (namely the taiwan version) was built with fault-prone screens.
so im interested to know about common hardware faults with the G2X Specifically
@EmceeGeek - i would but the HTC Sensation probably wont come out for the same price range as the G2X.. if there was one phone i would wait for - its the SGSII
Screen bleed seems to be a pretty common hardware issue with this phone - lots of people on this forum have it, and both the T-Mobile and LG reps I spoke with acknowledged it as a known issue. Some people don't mind it as it is only really noticeable on dark backgrounds (e.g. the startup screens from off, camera screen, etc.), but for the $500 price tag, I expect better.
Others have complained about restarts, which also seems to be a hardware issue, though I have not experienced this myself.
Battery life is another huge issue. Some people are able to get very respectable battery duration (9 hours+), while others are barely able to squeeze out 5. There are some software solutions to the battery issues, but they don't seem to work for everyone.
I'm thinking about picking up a g2x as well. I'm looking to sell my white htc evo asap (before evo 3d comes out and the price I can get for it drops) and pick up a g2x. Do you guys know if these flaws are very prominent. If so, would I be able to return the g2x, assuming the sensation comes out in June, and exchange the g2x for the sensation w/in the 30 day return window?
I've had mine since the 19th/20th and the camera/video stopped working after a few days. It still takes good pictures and video but the screen itself goes DARK when you launch the camera app or barcode scanner app etc.
Factory reset didn't fix it....it's not rooted or anything either.
Getting a replacement. Local store said a few customers came in with same problem, no resolution yet.
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Others have complained about restarts, which also seems to be a hardware issue, though I have not experienced this myself.
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What's the basis of this assumption? 2X users in Europe are being told by LG that there will be a patch released to fix their reboot issues. That would indicate software being the culprit, no?
I agree, the only hardware issue is the LCD bleeding, the rest are probably software related and a patch will be issued. I would choose the G2X over the sensation however I would wait a couple of months for the LCD bleeding to be fixed
thanks for the tip - it seems LCD Bleeding is very prominent in some members but i wish i could compile a ratio to see the odds of expecting my device to have it - are there any members who DONT have LCD Bleeding in their G2X's?
anyway if u ask me - this flaw, though a bit provoking, is nothing much to dwell on if it doesnt affect performance in any way
I hardly have any bleeding and I wouldn't have even noticed it if i hadnt read these forums. I havent had restarts or any problems at all as a matter of fac i love this phone my old blackberry feels like a dinosaur
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I agree, the only hardware issue is the LCD bleeding, the rest are probably software related and a patch will be issued. I would choose the G2X over the sensation however I would wait a couple of months for the LCD bleeding to be fixed
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Yep screen bleed is the only real widespread hardware problem with this phone (seems to be confined to early production numbers). Yhe rest is rushed software. T-mobile reps have started talking about an eminent software patch to fix the reset issue...etc.
Just fYI, I have no screen bleed and have had one reset in two weeks of otherwise continuous use (and I mean continuous). Overall I really happy with the phone.
I have been through 3 shipments and over 20 g2x's. Every single one has had varying degrees of screen bleed, from just a little in the corners to all the way in the center of the screen. Besides just the screen bleed, 70 - 80% of the devices I looked at also had brown staining along the edges of the screen when viewing a white screen such as a browser. A few were completely tinted yellow when looking at any color.
There's a new thread on the LG forum showing the screen separating from the rest of the phone, and the guy has a picture of the light coming through all the outer edges... bit worst than anything i've encountered.
Your call, but the thing is defective right now. If you insist on getting it, I would at least wait another month until possibly LG has addressed the issue. But chances are, they're not going to. This isn't a new device, its been out in Europe as an o2x for a while, and it's had the same issue since day 1.
I dont know about hardware flaws but a frequent problem I run into is that my 4g notification drops to 2g when that happens I actually have no data service I dont know if that data is rebooting itself but it happens quite often, and is really annoying when I am surfing web youtube or any other app that requires data connection. could be a t-mobile problem.
I dunno. I'm running CM7 and aside from screen bleeding I'd say the phone is a keeper.
I get awesome battery life. I can go from 8am-midnight under normal-heavy use and not worry. My screen bleed is minimal and not noticeable. Funny this forum introduced me to iPad2 screen bleeds which I knew nothing about until I looked at mine (damn you guys)
So for the most part you won't see the screen bleed in less you have a bad case of it, in which I would swap it for a new one. CM7 is finding its legs and is getting pretty close to a stable release.
The stock 2.2 kernel can be wonky which can cause battery misreadings (for better or worse) and resets in some cases. I haven't experienced any battery problems as it just runs and runs and runs. I have had resets on the leaked Gingerbread rom running on a Froyo kernel (but your asking for trouble there).
The phone comes with a 2.2 Rom which was left in Engineering mode and eventually gets sluggish and crashes. There is a patch that fixes this. Luckily most of the "major" issues are fixed by simply flashing CM7.
The screen bleed and light leak
I think they are related but still two different issues. I have been through 4 phones and they have all had light leakage. LG told me that there was a bad batch so this is not whining or anything that can be fixed by massaging or opening up the phone, and no matter what anyone says, its not something I will accept in a product I am paying 500 dollars for. Screen bleed has been varied. The one I have now is the worse of the 4, but I took it home to take photos so I could illustrate the problem. All had dates from the 14th to the 24th of April. The photos are just of the light leakage. There are enough of the bleed issue already.
I saw somewhere on the T-Mo GSII section that there was a thread of about 50 pages of people complaining that their screens, under varying brightness settings and to varying degrees, displayed some vertical "ghost" lines running up and down the screen..
I picked up a Skyrocket earlier today at the AT&T store and was disappointed to see that the screen was doing just that. Hence, me searching and finding this thread. After some thinking, I went back to the store and exchanged the Skyrocket for the Vivid, which I am even more displeased with, although for other reasons (call quality, weight, etc. Although I'm going to use it for a few days to see how it goes). I just wanted to try it out of curiosity, a restocking fee is alright for me should I decide to go back to the Skyrocket.
Has anyone else experienced this with a Skyrocket or GSII in general? I was surprised to have searched this general section and not found anything about it. The display model in the store exhibited the same "ghost" lines as well.
There is no reason to pick up any other smartphone as of now if you own a sgs2, assuming your on at&t or even international, you would have the dual core exynos, which out performs anything on the market as of now, even the skyrocket.
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That... has nothing to do with my question.
I'm not asking for specs and numbers and names. I know what all of it is, and I don't care - it's about what I want and like. And I would hope others are able to do as they please as well.
ANYWAY. No one has had any screen troubles?
I've never seen any lines on my I9100, nor heard of others having the issues described in that thread. At minimum brightness, in absolute darkness, I can see a few blobs on a black screen, but even then I have to really look for them or I won't notice. The usual complaints I've seen about I9100 screens are yellowish tint and sometimes burn-in, though I haven't experienced either of those personally.
You probably already asked in the T-Mo forum since you linked a thread from it, but I'm pretty sure the Skyrocket uses the same screen as the T989, so imo you're more likely to find useful feedback there. I'm assuming you're only interested in LTE AT&T phones, so you're probably f'd, but the I777 uses the same screen as the I9100 where I've never heard of that particular problem.
I just got the Skyrocket on Sunday and I'm having the same issue with the vertical lines. Looks pretty terrible on dark images/backgrounds in low ambient light.
I searched a ton yesterday on Google and this is first place I found someone complaining of the same problem. I can't decide whether it's good or bad to know someone else is seeing the same issue.
I have 2 international i9100's.
They both have this issue, one is more noticeable than the other, but as you say usually on low brightness/dark images. Suspect it is a result of the manufacturing process of the S-AMOLED Plus screen and if they haven't fixed it by now in the skyrocket (almost surprising but at the same time not really) they aren't going to.
For me it doesn't bother me a whole ton as I don't see it most of the time but it does kind of suck lol.
I got an international. What Anandtech calls persistence bothers me,
The situation reminds me of the early large size lcd tv days. Lines, clouding, uneven this that. In the future it will be all fixed but its not today.
No issues here.. Our only issue on our screen is the blobs, yrllowish tint and "burins"..
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Someone needs to put a sticky to keep Skyrocket discussion out of these forums.
The device is a Galaxy S II in name only and nothing else.
Shame on Samsung for diluting their brand like this... The ****rocket is going to ruin their reputation in the USA, as if AT&T's mangling of the stock ROM for the I777 didn't already.
my rogers s2 has the same issue as well
I heard about this issue before I got my SII (not Skyrocket), and even knowing about the problem and using the phone a lot at the lowest brightness I have never noticed it on my screen.
I have however noticed the yellow tint problem mentioned above, and I use Screen Adjuster to compensate for it by adding more blue.
I have the i-9100M (Canada) and the SGH-I727R (same as AT&T Skyrocket) and I don't have any issue with the screen. Had both dark and white background and didn't see any issues.
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I have the i-9100M (Canada) and the SGH-I727R (same as AT&T Skyrocket) and I don't have any issue with the screen. Had both dark and white background and didn't see any issues.
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same here, i have the same model and i have no issues at all.
Ohh wow!!! another android device, all of you have an old model device again hahaha
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I have the same problem with vertical lines on the screen. I bought my Skyrocket from Best Buy on release day and noticed the screen issue in lowest brightness on Monday. I exchanged it for another. This one has the issue as well, but it's not as bad. My wife has the i777 and hers has the vertical lines to a very minute extent; you don't even notice unless you're really looking for it.
hmmm, am i one of the few lucky individuals who do not have this issue? Or am i just blind? Is there something specific i have to do to replicate the issue? Ive tried looking at many different images, color combinations, at different brightness settings, different ambient light settings (from outside in the sun to inside a pitchblack closet) and i have not seen what everyone has been describing? I have a Captivate, Infuse, and euro I9100 (water damaged), that I have tried to compare them to, and my skyrocket looks exactly the same. I believe the Infuse uses the same screen as well and ive not a problem with that, and the cappy still looks prestine minus the (plus) in the Super AMOLED. Even the nonfunctioning water damaged i9100 displayes weird ass colors and crap on the screen but its finest looking garbage ever.
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hmmm, am i one of the few lucky individuals who do not have this issue? Or am i just blind? Is there something specific i have to do to replicate the issue? Ive tried looking at many different images, color combinations, at different brightness settings, different ambient light settings (from outside in the sun to inside a pitchblack closet) and i have not seen what everyone has been describing? I have a Captivate, Infuse, and euro I9100 (water damaged), that I have tried to compare them to, and my skyrocket looks exactly the same. I believe the Infuse uses the same screen as well and ive not a problem with that, and the cappy still looks prestine minus the (plus) in the Super AMOLED. Even the nonfunctioning water damaged i9100 displayes weird ass colors and crap on the screen but its finest looking garbage ever.
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Mine aren't that noticeable, but can be seen easily when I launch xda app. The brown start screen makes them jump out.
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Now on my Skyrocket I have the vertical lines and my screen is so freaking blue its pissing me off. I also have a Euro I9100 and comparing the Skyrocket to that is night and day difference. I will try exchanging it Saturday and see if the other one will be better. I will take some side by side pics later tonight and post them.
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Yeah I just returned an ATT SGS2 yesterday for the skyrocket and this screen was pissing me off the moment i left the store. The screen on the Orig sgs2 was probably the best mobile display I had ever seen but this shyt is for the birds, I'm thinking of exchanging and if the second one isnt any better then going with the vivid!!!
After reading many build and quality issues with the 1.73 original shipment handsets, I was wondering if people with the factory 1.85 second shipment handsets are seeing the same issues.
Personally I have a second shipment 1.85 handset and it is very well built, great on battery, no dead pixels on any color, rarely gets hotter than warm, very minimal light bleed on lower right corner on all black screen, no corners lifting up and running like a superstar with clean Rom 3.0(ran outstanding on factory 1.85 also).
Only issue I am having is the phone seems to take longer to charge than my inspire or vivid with real HTC charger. I have tried more than one. Not so long that I think there is an issue, just longer than I have experienced in the past.
Please post your experiences with 1.73 vs 1.85 handsets and maybe we can figure out what has been fixed on the production line so far.
Personally I think they definitely tweaked it and fixed some early build issues.
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I had an original 1.73 and dropped it so I replaced it and got a 1.85 device. For me, they are both EXACTLY the same. Never had any issues on the first one.
I got a 1.85 One X about a week ago. Strangely, the box it arrived in was somewhat warm (for whatever reason), and the device was warm when I first took it out of the box, but I don't believe that's affected anything on the phone. Everything seems in good shape with this model; my only question is the light bleed you're referring to on the bottom right corner of the display. I think I have that too. When it's an all black display, or at least all black in the bottom right corner, it seems to be a little bit "brighter" in that area, so to speak. I also notice that the "stage light" arrangement for the backlit display on the bottom of the display (above the capacitive buttons) seems a little brighter in that bottom right corner. Sorry for the rambling, but is that what you're referring to?
On a side note, that "stage light" appearance of the backlights on the bottom of the display are supposed to be like that, according to an HTC Customer Representative. In case any of you were wondering lol.
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On a side note, that "stage light" appearance of the backlights on the bottom of the display are supposed to be like that, according to an HTC Customer Representative. In case any of you were wondering lol.
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4 of my HOXs had those "stage lights" as you call them, one didn't have them at all. The one that didn't have them had a really crappy screen that was all washed out and had yellowish whites. All the ones that did have them had vivid colors and bright white whites. Be happy your display is the one with the visible backlights, the other one sucks.
Anyone having the corners of the glass lifting away from the phone issue on the new batch? Mine are all perfect on the 1.85. Any dead pixels or dust issues?
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Anyone having the corners of the glass lifting away from the phone issue on the new batch? Mine are all perfect on the 1.85. Any dead pixels or dust issues?
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This one that I just got today *seems* perfect. I say seems because as history has taught me 4 times over, only time will tell.
I have a 1.73 and have had zero issues with build, the only issue I had was software (clock not updating time when on wifi and coming out of deep sleep)...which has not returned since the 1.85 update. I have rooted and unlocked bootloader and currently running cleanrom 3.0, standard...and DEV editions! It has never run hot, screen is flawless, and I am happy
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I dont think having 1.85 on the phone qualify the device as second shipment. Maybe one of the many numbers on the box would indicate to this. My first was 1.73 but had a dead pixel, then my second was 1.85 and was about the same minus the dead pixel.
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This one that I just got today *seems* perfect. I say seems because as history has taught me 4 times over, only time will tell.
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I could give you an electron and you would probably find something wrong with it compared to all the other electrons.
He would complain that he could predict where it is but never find it!
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I could give you an electron and you would probably find something wrong with it compared to all the other electrons.
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As long as the electron had a separating screen, faulty sim reader, terrible battery life and dust under the screen, or a bad vibration motor and overheating problems, then yeah, you're probably right.
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Anyone having the corners of the glass lifting away from the phone issue on the new batch? Mine are all perfect on the 1.85. Any dead pixels or dust issues?
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i had my first one replaced at bestbuy for dead pixels. He took out a new one x and had dust under the screen. So he set that one aside and gave me another which over all is good. However when I push down on the screen I can see an ink looking blotch show up for a second. Kind of annoying.
Agreed -Does take longer to charge
But I love the battery life on the HOX running 1.85.
I've had mine a couple days before it released on AT&T officially and my co worker has a white One X from the second shipment and our battery life is identical. Give or take an hour or so but build is exactly the same. We do this for a living and are very particular about our devices. I actually swapped mine out twice until I got the perfect one -_-
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So glad I DOA'd my phone. Battery life is much better. Haven't had any wifi issues anymore. And the vibrate motor doesn't rattle.
I can't tell the difference between the two build quality wise. I know that I battery life changes drastically from phone to phone. The grey one I had the battery was perfect. I thought it was getting too hot so I exchanged it. Boy do I wish I didn't. These replacements aren't coming close to that battery life. I'm doing all I can to get one that does and hey if AT&T wants to keep sending me replacements then I'll take em.
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Omg after reading this and inspecting my phone I feel like I am going crazy
I'm looking to buy a 1+ tomorrow as on Tuesdays they have open invites. I sold my g2 to put towards this but have a few short questions. I know there are threads and links on xda and Google but I see a 50/50 across the board. So far I read the 1+ is a great phone..fast, good software, good build ect. My question is on the yellow banding and touch issues. Since I'll be ordering tomorrow it has been a long time since these issues have been happening. Just curious if anyone that has received one lately had any problems even past the yellow and touch. I apologize and know there are threads on this but nothing that seems recent that talks about these issues. Thanks.
I bought mine in september and i have none problems!Not touch problem nor the yellow band!Anyway i dont think there are any problem with one+
No problems here. Had mine for 2 weeks. It's a good phone. No better or worse than my M8
Awesome. Just looking to make sure the 1+ is the right move. Can't wait to join the 1+ band wagon!!
The yellow band still exists, and I've gone through three OPO already (over a period of a year now, for me, my wife and brother).
The issue did get better though, it's not as noticeable anymore and most people wouldn't even see it if they didn't have a properly configured comparison screen next to their screen.
Overall it's still the best price value deal you can snatch so you can order without having any regrets.
I did buy one in Feb and I got the yellow band, nothing fixed it like keeping it in UV light etc. But surprisingly my previous one which I bought in late august did not have the yellow band. Also I did notice the yellowing is also present in the screenshots you take on the phone so I am assuming it is rather a software/driver bug than a hardware screen issue. If it was purely a hardware it wont be visible on a screenshot like if you had a cracked screen and you took a screen shot cracks don't show up in the screenshot. I was so bothered with the yellow band ended up selling it in a week on craigslist. The new buyer did not check it so all went well.
Another point wanted to mention Opo support was hard to deal with. Even though I opened a ticket and attached the files they gave some bull**** about changing the settings updating the OS when I was already on the latest official build. I replied and next time they asked me to send a video after which they send me a zip file to flash in recovery which did nothing but just wiped my phone.
At this point in time without even having Lollipop and random screen and battery issue and a confirmed poor camera on this phone I lost all interest and just bought a LG G3 and so far very happy with it.
Ugh. That sucks for both of you. That's what scares me. My g2 is in the mail and I'm on a g pro right now which is OK but battery is insanely horrible. I'm gonna bite the bullet and buy the 1 and hope for the best. Every review I see is mostly a praise on the phone so hopefully I get that.
My dad and I both got one recently. My dad about 2 weeks ago and mine just barely a week ago. No issues here as far as we can tell. Though I should point out ours are the China versions which originally had ColorOS instead of CM. But they all should come from the same factory anyway...
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I ordered the G7 from T-Mobile pretty much as soon as I could. I received it 2 days later. From the second I turned on the screen, I could clearly see a huge spot of LCD bleed to the right of the charging port. It was only really visible on white/off-white backgrounds, but it was plain as day and unacceptable for a $750 device.
I called T-Mobile within a day to try and swap it out. Long story short, it would involve sending it back, waiting for them to confirm, then sending me a replacement. I didn't want to deal with any of that, so I just returned it. Fun fact: The original tech on the phone wanted me to run a diagnostic and reboot the phone to troubleshoot (LOL!).
Anyway, I went to a local T-Mobile store and found another display model with the EXACT SAME LIGHT BLEED ISSUE and in the same spot. I pointed it out to the rep and he was surprised. So, what I originally thought was bad luck may, in fact, be a more widespread issue. That, or I just happened to find the only two LG G7 devices with this particular issue.
We all know that LCD panels have light bleed issues of varying amounts (the one notable exception being iPhones). But this was still disappointing, especially on new screen tech from LG. I just want people to be informed before buying. I loved the phone otherwise, although the taller, thinner form factor was a little odd. I prefer the V30's form factor.
Attached are photos of my unit. You can clearly see the blinding white spot shining up like a spotlight from the bottom. If you're buying this phone, good luck. I did see a Pink unit at T-Mobile without this issue. Both units that had it were Silver, for what it's worth.
yea, my wife had this issue in the same spot on her red edition. i easily found others online with the same issue in the same spot.
LG has quality control issues. the screen on the v30 was so bad that i ended up returning it.
my g7 has no such issues and i have been pleasantly surprised with my experience on it thus far.
if you can get a good, unaffected model you will probably be happy with it.
Unfortunate that many people are experiencing this. My 2 phones that arrived seem flawless to me so far.
What do you guys think?
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What do you guys think?
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You definitely have it in the same spot, though to a lesser degree than I had. It's your call, but I think that's unacceptable given the price. Since it only really rears its ugly head on white backgrounds, some people may find they can live with it.
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Lol. Man I didn't even notice that issue. But I can see the same bleeding in the exact same area. I'm on JOD so I might just keep it since I'll jump to the note 9 in 3 or 4 months.
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I ordered two via the BOGO sale, both Rose color and the screens are flawless
Major backlight bleed through the LCD screen right out of the box. Apparently its a common issue. Went back to Sprint to swap it only to find that the would have been replacement had the same issue. Opened up two more new G7s with the manager only to find the same problem. LG fell through on this one. Id suggest looking elsewhere as of now. Unless you dont mind the visual nuisance
I picked up a Verizon G7 from Best Buy 2 days ago and I have no screen issues. My is performing just fine with no light bleed.
Got mine in store from Tmo. Have had no issues with mine so far. Try not to read too much into this. Samsung has had screen issues with about every model they've released since the S6.
Verizon edition here and it's perfect. We've sold probably 50 out of my Verizon store also and not a single issue
How do we test our screen for bleed?
I used this test page http://www.lightbleedtest.com/ at 100% brightness in a pitch black bathroom. Is this the proper way?
Flawless here also, T Mobile version.
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How do we test our screen for bleed?
I used this test page http://www.lightbleedtest.com/ at 100% brightness in a pitch black bathroom. Is this the proper way?
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In the case of the G7, a white background seems to bring the bleed out the most. Open a white image or the settings menu and check the bottom edge. It appears to occur in the same place on all G7 units that have it.
US 710ULM and no issues with the display, color or bleed. Purchased Black from Bestbuy.
its one of the nicest LCD displays ive seen. Brightness and colors are fantastic.
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No bleed here either.
no bleed here all good
Got mine from B&H yesterday. No light bleed at all.