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This looks like some well-meaning, do-gooder idea, but I can assure you that it's the camel sticking its head in a tent. I'm referring to the breaking news about how four U.S. Senators (who apparently have nothing better to do) want to control what apps you can or cannot buy. They began their effort by nearly demanding that Apple eliminate any iPhone apps that help consumers find police checkpoints, so they can avoid them.
The rationale behind removing these apps is the Senators say the only reason people would want to avoid a police checkpoint is because they're drunk. Thus, they've rationalized that the apps are a hazard to the public.
The four U.S. Senators, all Democrats, are Charles Schumer of New York, Harry Reid of Nevada, Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey and Tom Udall of New Mexico, and they should be voted out of office as soon as possible. What's wrong with the voters?
In a widely quoted joint letter to Apple's iPhone VP, Scott Forstall, the Senators wrote:
We write today with grave concern regarding the ease with which downloadable applications for the iPhone, iPad, and other Apple products allow customers to identify where local police officers have set up DUI checkpoints. With more than 10,000 Americans dying in drunk-driving crashes every year, providing access to iPhone and iPad applications that alert users to DUI checkpoints is harmful to public safety.
If this is actually about public safety, then why don't the Senators also advocate removing all the apps that show the numerous speed traps around the country? After all, speeders are a danger too, no? In fact, speeding is the leading cause of death not drunk driving.
By the way, sober people like to avoid police checkpoints, too, if you haven't noticed. Who the heck wants to go through a police checkpoint to be grilled like a criminal for doing nothing more than driving down the street?
This whole thing is an attempt to regulate apps. Already we've seen the FCC poke its nose into regulating the Internet by getting involved in net neutrality issues. As this column is being written, meetings are taking place all over Washington to find ways to regulate the distribution and use of the Internet. Watch CSPAN sometime and you can see the guys ready to set up shop to do this.
This will eventually mean licensing. In the early 1900s, when the radio hobby was blossoming, you didn't need a license to broadcast anything. We thought free access was going to change the world. Then the government jumped in because things were supposedly getting too chaotic. The hobbyists were shoved into a few specific bands and the pros (commercial companies) were required to have a license. Soon the hobbyists (ham operators) were required to have a license too.
And where is all the real action in the radio spectrum? The unlicensed bands. Now, another Legislator, Peter King wants to ban the ham radio folks—the only people who manage to communicate during real emergencies—from operating. Again there is a bogus rationale. In this case, it's because of the idea that Muslim hams can plan terrorist attacks. This is our government at work.
The nerve of these four Senators to pressure a private company like Apple to sell or not sell something is incredible to me. This crap is just going to get worse as long as guys like this remain in office.
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**** THAT!!!!!!!! (sorry mods)
Oh yea Muslims will plan terrorist attacks inside the country via open unencrypted radio waves...imagine their callsignes lol...
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Nicgraner said:
Oh yea Muslims will plan terrorist attacks inside the country via open unencrypted radio waves...imagine their callsignes lol...
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"This is big slushi calling little slushi everything is ready at the 7/11 over"
Thas SOMe POOP!!
Look there is and never will be a way to control digital media whether its APi's ir APK. they should take some lessons from the Music and Movie industries.... . so yeah know they think that an open source like android. will be kept in Cheked? what ever..... just saying that if its digital it will never be tamed!!!
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Look there is and never will be a way to control digital media whether its APi's ir APK. they should take some lessons from the Music and Movie industries.... . so yeah know they think that an open source like android. will be kept in Cheked? what ever..... just saying that if its digital it will never be tamed!!!
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What they are getting at is they want to regulate the type of applications that are made available via public access application markets. They are not wanting to watch what is made available via, forums or what not, just what is on the market. It's a stupid idea to me. Developer sends app to google, FCC/DOJ clears the app it goes lives. This could easily be controlled. But you are 100% correct if someone makes an app, we'll say this DUI checkpoint app, and post it via any forum their is no way of one person, or group of being able to control it. Esp if lets say 2 dozen people store the .apk somewhere on a hard drive.
You people are forgetting these are the same morons who can't even operate computers much less babbling about mobile platform. These idiots always try some BS as they never understand it they will never be able to control jack all I hear from them is talking but they are saying nothing honestly. Now talking about DOJ/FCC watch AT&T own them as all know the Gov works for THE DeathStar so the at&Tmobile merge will go without hitch.
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You people are forgetting these are the same morons who can't even operate computers much less babbling about mobile platform. These idiots always try some BS as they never understand it they will never be able to control jack all I hear from them is talking but they are saying nothing honestly. Now talking about DOJ/FCC watch AT&T own them as all know the Gov works for THE DeathStar so the at&Tmobile merge will go without hitch.
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I was thinking that but wasn't going to say it. I didn't want to pull sides. But i do agree. 99% of everything they touch ends up FUBARd.
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I was thinking that but wasn't going to say it. I didn't want to pull sides. But i do agree. 99% of everything they touch ends up FUBARd.
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Ya thats cheap publicity stunt as they trying to show brain washed Americans they are actually doing something. Its all total BS when we should be worried about real issues in USA but we have to deal with these type of BS. I still don't see why we can't just hang them for high treason and get it over with. I know I am harsh but we need this type actions to get rid of these degenerates. It don't matter who we put in office they all part of the same good ol party of BS politicians.
This is why freedom no longer exists in the USA! You can't even leave the country of your own will! Gun control is a prime example. My ssn doesn't do squat for me because some killer is in the florida state penitentiary that has the same name as me! They make me wait for a fire arm. Yet my fingerprints and ssn are suppose to help eliminate that issue. The laws are for control not protection! Why would any sane individual hold the head of a dead man up to get his picture taken with them? These are the new soldiers that are being bread. The kind of trash that will do what the government tells them to do. Not what they should no is wrong. Look at law enforcement. My wife use to be in it. Now she is disgraced that it has gotten as bad as it has. Look at education. Kids are being dumbed up instead of taught. The less knowledge, money, skill, and power you have, the more obedient you will be! Just remember George Washington! He knew what to do and when to do it.
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xHKMx Dude......Sir that was well said!!! well said.........
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/11/occupy-protesters-and-communication-workers-to-march-on-new-york-t-mobile-store/
HA ha. Maybe they should spend their time working on their resume. The useful idiots of the socialist movement lead around by their noses by ACORN now want to protest T-Mobile. Silly socialists. Life is not easy. Try a little harder.
Putting on my flame resistant suit.
Of all the wireless companies, OWS decided to go after T-Mobile? And why? "Anti-worker union busting". I know three people who work at T-Mobile call centers and LOVE it there. The pay is great they all said. They got 6 months of training and they got paid while they were in training. T-Mobile is almost always hiring where I am.
T-Mobile is the best as far as I'm concerned in customer service. They even have an iPhone support group and T-Mobile doesn't even sell iPhones nor can they. I could send all of the people who have never used a cell phone before to a T-Mobile store and recommend any phone and the clerk would go out of his or her way to make sure that the referred person knows how to use the phone.
T-Mobile has some of the lowest subscription prices for US consumers on the market. I see no reason for union workers or employees to demand higher wages and benefits. If they do and get they what they want, they will most likely cause an increase in price or a downgrade of service to the consumer. T-Mobile owes Deutsche Telekom a lot of money as it is right now. I don't think there is any way T-Mobile could maintain the great pricing and give in to unions. If the unions succeed, the cost will be paid for by the customer, like it always is with every situation like this. The consumer loses.
I also must add that AT&T and Verizon are both unionized. Look at their customer service. Look at their pricing. Neither company even offers an unlimited data plan. I've dealt with both before, it's not pretty.
You know what other company offers an unlimited data plan and is only a little bit behind T-Mobile in pricing? It's Sprint Mobile. Are they unionized? No.
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http://www.tmonews.com/2011/11/occu...-workers-to-march-on-new-york-t-mobile-store/
HA ha. Maybe they should spend their time working on their resume. The useful idiots of the socialist movement lead around by their noses by ACORN now want to protest T-Mobile. Silly socialists. Life is not easy. Try a little harder.
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No sure what your feelings about these protesters has to do with what we do here. Can we get this thread close or deleted?
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No sure what your feelings about these protestors has to do with what we do here. Can we get this thread close or deleted?
[Tmonews - a stooge for T-Mobile. A gutter rat snake in T-Mobiles pocket.]
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No sure what your feelings about these protestors has to do with what we do here. Can we get this thread close or deleted?
[Tmonews - a stooge for T-Mobile. A gutter rat snake in T-Mobiles pocket.]
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Well my opinion is not that important. The protest is relevant because they have made a decision to target my cell phone company. Are you the new thread police? Don't like the topic, don't post.
The "protesters" have damaged many small private business by their "activities". I hope they at least have the good sense make sure it is not a franchise store, but I doubt it. They do not appear particularly bright.
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Of all the wireless companies, OWS decided to go after T-Mobile? And why? "Anti-worker union busting".
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Because the occupation's army is comprised of Anarchist first, and socialists 2nd. A big hint is no clear agenda other than promotion of chaos. These are serious anarchists, the European Anarchists. And T-Mobile parent company is where? Deutsche Telekom.
If it was an American based uprising it would be against ATT as it trys to eat the little guy. I wish I had a trust fund big enough to be part of OWS
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Well my opinion is not that important. The protest is relevant because they have made a decision to target my cell phone company. Are you the new thread police? Don't like the topic, don't post.
The "protesters" have damaged many small private business by their "activities". I hope they at least have the good sense make sure it is not a franchise store, but I doubt it. They do not appear particularly bright.
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It is a franchise store. I work 4 blocks from it. Pay my bills there.
Let me get this straight. Your small business in KC is being harmed by a bunch of kids in Manhattan.
No I'm not the new thread police. Just didn't think this was the place to preach political views. But since you started it.
I think anyone who speaks against this protest is a traitor to the Constitution. Protesting is a RIGHT we have in the United States. If you have a problem with people practicing their rights as Americans maybe you should try a communist country. I hear the food is good.
And Fox News is not news. That stuff will rot your brains.
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No sure what your feelings about these protestors has to do with what we do here. Can we get this thread close or deleted?
[Tmonews - a stooge for T-Mobile. A gutter rat snake in T-Mobiles pocket.]
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Instead of trying to get a thread closed by complaining to those reading the thread, why not just send the moderators a note and see if trying to stifle conversation works out for you.
Your opinion of TMOnews is very important, others talking about a flash mob communication to take over our phone's network offices....that is not worthy....according to who?
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Instead of trying to get a thread closed by complaining to those reading the thread, why not just send the moderators a note and see if trying to stifle conversation works out for you.
Your opinion of TMOnews is very important, others talking about a flash mob communication to take over our phone's network offices....that is not worthy....according to who?
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..take over our phone networks offices? Flash mob? You're right. I shouldn't try to hinder conversation. We have a right to free speech also and If I'm gonna back the right to protest, I have to back the right to peoples opinions on a given subject.
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While I'll back the right to protest to my dying breath, these kids have been taken over by who knows who. Wanna protest over jobs being sent overseas? Fine. Wanna protest over the price of education? Fine. Wanna protest police brutality? I'm with ya.
But there are about 6 employees at a T-Mobile store who will soon look out the window and wonder what the **** is going on.
Protest until you can't protest anymore. Just stick to the subject. Whatever the subject maybe.
[Anarchist - Don't you think you went overboard with that definition of the protesters?]
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I think anyone who speaks against this protest is a traitor to the Constitution. Protesting is a RIGHT we have in the United States. If you have a problem with people practicing their rights as Americans maybe you should try a communist country. I hear the food is good.
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So you support and don't speak out against any protest, because protesters have the right to do so. Under your logic, anyone speaking against a KKK rally is a traitor because the KKK has a right as American to protest.
You see dkb218, content does make a difference. If people have the right to speak out and demonstrate, anyone with common sense, (yourself seemingly absent) should understand that others have the right to speak against the concepts being promoted.
The anarchists who call themselves the occupation army, or OWS, don't have any demands. Goobers like yourself think that they need to be nurtured and supported no matter anything. I am sure you think that Chris Matthew's the speech writer for Jimmy Carter, and chief of staff to the Democratic Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill is just a non-biased journalist too.
These idiots are about to mob rush some clerks selling phones, and you support that. I don't mind that you are a lemming, just don't involve others in your insight of the need to run towards the cliff.
The right to say something is NOT the right to not being criticized and mocked for being a twit.
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So you support and don't speak out against any protest, because protesters have the right to do so. Under your logic, anyone speaking against a KKK rally is a traitor because the KKK has a right as American to protest.
You see dkb218, content does make a difference. If people have the right to speak out and demonstrate, anyone with common sense, (yourself seemingly absent) should understand that others have the right to speak against the concepts being promoted.
The anarchists who call themselves the occupation army, or OWS, don't have any demands. Goobers like yourself think that they need to be nurtured and supported no matter anything. I am sure you think that Chris Matthew's the speech writer for Jimmy Carter, and chief of staff to the Democratic Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill is just a non-biased journalist too.
These idiots are about to mob rush some clerks selling phones, and you support that. I don't mind that you are a lemming, just don't involve others in your insight of the need to run towards the cliff.
The right to say something is NOT the right to not being criticized and mocked for being a twit.
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Point taken. I stand corrected.
I feel a Rodney King statement coming on
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I smell a liberal.
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It always ends bad, so I'm closing this now before it starts going downhill.
so apparently the German government (and other entities) have been using silent sms attacks to keep tabs on its civilians
they send a silent sms to someones phone, it dosent show up at all on their device, but it pings back Imei numbers and other info, which can be cross reffed with the operator log of the towers and used to compile an entire movement profile for an individual
now i dont know about you but as an upstanding citizen this kind of crap concerns the heck outta me.
i believe further exploration into some sort of defense against ssms attacks is in order but it is way above my paygrade
I'm not so sure about this.. So the mobile OS developers, operators and the government(s) are involved in this? To me this sounds like someone is a bit paranoid.
It is possible and may not be at the behest of the cell providers. Look at the things that the US government has done in this regard. The patriot act here in the states gives the government the right to view and track calls, emails, and so forth. Though it could be a false alarm it is possible. :s
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I'm not so sure about this.. So the mobile OS developers, operators and the government(s) are involved in this? To me this sounds like someone is a bit paranoid.
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Not the OS developers, it purely has to do with the carriers. I remember reading a lot about similar things in the past, like pinging a phone, class 0 sms', etc. Does anyone have any related links, whether relating to the governments use or these pinging sms' in general? Sounds like an interesting topic!
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It is possible and may not be at the behest of the cell providers. Look at the things that the US government has done in this regard. The patriot act here in the states gives the government the right to view and track calls, emails, and so forth. Though it could be a false alarm it is possible. :s
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I hear you there. Look at the new chip they want in all cell phones in the US starting this year for government based SMS for terrorist threats and amber alerts. Wonder why it is gonna be connected to the GPS and phone mic?
I'm pretty confident that the government and to be more precise law enforcement have all right to keep track of you and your movements if they see fit.
In saying this though, most governments and once again to be more precise law enforcement will only track you and record your activities should you be doing activities that would force them to.
You aren't doing anything you shouldn't be doing are you?
PS I had to give my mobile number to an officer of the law the other day, to say the least I'm kind of paranoid that they will look through previous texts that I have sent which could be incriminating, but in saying this I'm more than happy to accept my fate should such predicament come to haunt me.
My point is that if you need to ensure you aren't being recorded or tracked, do your illegal activities on a phone which cannot be traced back to you.
Edit this image is relevant to this thread.
http://www.philzimmermann.com/images/TinFoilHatArea.jpg
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Any proof about this?
Do a search for Fema chips in cell phones and see.
zeekiz said:
I'm pretty confident that the government and to be more precise law enforcement have all right to keep track of you and your movements if they see fit.
In saying this though, most governments and once again to be more precise law enforcement will only track you and record your activities should you be doing activities that would force them to.
You aren't doing anything you shouldn't be doing are you?
PS I had to give my mobile number to an officer of the law the other day, to say the least I'm kind of paranoid that they will look through previous texts that I have sent which could be incriminating, but in saying this I'm more than happy to accept my fate should such predicament come to haunt me.
My point is that if you need to ensure you aren't being recorded or tracked, do your illegal activities on a phone which cannot be traced back to you.
Edit this image is relevant to this thread.
http://www.philzimmermann.com/images/TinFoilHatArea.jpg
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To say if you are not doing anything wrong then you should not fear having no privacy in the eyes of the government and the law is dumb. People keep information other than criminal activites private for many reasons, And that has the potential for abuse or missuse by the wrong people. For example look at American presidential campaigns Quite often they have people digging up dirt on their rivals, quite often its inconsequential dirt, but the PR firms twist it and stretch it and convert it into a duststorm of contraversy, can you imagine how much easier that type of BS would be if one political contender / group had a supporter or supporters high up with access to this information? low risk move for them, and a goldmine for their marketing firms.
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To say if you are not doing anything wrong then you should not fear having no privacy in the eyes of the government and the law is dumb. People keep information other than criminal activites private for many reasons, And that has the potential for abuse or missuse by the wrong people. For example look at American presidential campaigns Quite often they have people digging up dirt on their rivals, quite often its inconsequential dirt, but the PR firms twist it and stretch it and convert it into a duststorm of contraversy, can you imagine how much easier that type of BS would be if one political contender / group had a supporter or supporters high up with access to this information? low risk move for them, and a goldmine for their marketing firms.
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Agreed. Oh and while he is at it might as well tell all those people that died protecting freedom that they died for no reason because he doesn't care about his freedom of privacy.
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Agreed. Oh and while he is at it might as well tell all those people that died protecting freedom that they died for no reason because he doesn't care about his freedom of privacy.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying died for no reason, I agree with freedom of privacy, but I also believe more or less that they would be doing this pinging for our protection.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying died for no reason, I agree with freedom of privacy, but I also believe more or less that they would be doing this pinging for our protection.
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I know that maybe a bit harsh but some of my freinds were those that stood up for our rights and freedom and for someone to say its OK for a government to remove that right rubs me wrong.
I would to if you were innocent until proven guilty but we all know that is not the case anymore. Now you are guilty until proven innocent.
I think the days of thinking that our government is out for the good of people is long over.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying died for no reason, I agree with freedom of privacy, but I also believe more or less that they would be doing this pinging for our protection.
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Oh for my "protection" well thats okay then.
So whats your stance on carrier IQ then? after all its only sending information that will make our phone using experiance better, And from a safety issue SOPA and the Australian internet filter are brilliant, Means I can not access those nasty sites that will put me at risk, Just like in China. It does not stink of isolationisim and control at all. And all no one should want ANYTHING kept private if they are not breaking the law should they? Infact privacy breeds suscpicion. How about for everyones safety you post your private details and smses as well as your daily schedule so we know you are not going around consorting with terroists or drug dealers.
Anyone who would sacrifice liberty for security deserves neither.
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forget the government, they don't need to do anything.
all they need to do is contact Google and Apple.
they have us all under lock and key... in the name of convenience and technology.
we are all just bunch of *****es and whores.
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forget the government, they don't need to do anything.
all they need to do is contact Google and Apple.
they have us all under lock and key... in the name of convenience and technology.
we are all just bunch of *****es and whores.
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^^^^--- This.
Anyway, as far as being able to track you they would need probable cause to even begin to attempt to defend themselves if any government type decides to do this. At least enough to warrant a search a seizure. I don't know how the laws are outside of the states but I can imagine unless you're in a dictatorship or you live in a communist nation the laws are similar.
Higher-ups have always been able to do this, that's not the question. The question is the legitimacy of the situations that they decide to use their power.
LOL
I love you guys who born and grow up in the US. and Western part where democracy is practicing daily.
Coming off a communist country, I love freedom a lot but ......... if you do no harm to the nation, no harm to the country, no harm to the community and no harm to anybody, then you SHOULD NEVER worry about it.
If you say "Obama is suck and I hate him" you not gonna be jailed for that.
If you say "I hate white president and I never vote for those again", you not gonna be fined for that.
If you say "I just have sex with my g/f and she moans like crazy", they not gonna care to listen to your conversation.
But if you are up to something, potentially put the nation, commnunity at risk, yes, you are deserved to lock up for the rest of your life as the safety issue for the rest.
Period.
Yes a the moment the government can suboena Google or whoever and can get the info but at least there is a process to be followed paperwork and its all mostly in the open. So if this is the case why do they need to get this info via this chip? To me the potential for misuse outweighs the potential for safety removing a link in the chain does not nessicarily make the chain better or stronger
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Yes a the moment the government can suboena Google or whoever and can get the info but at least there is a process to be followed paperwork and its all mostly in the open. So if this is the case why do they need to get this info via this chip? To me the potential for misuse outweighs the potential for safety removing a link in the chain does not nessicarily make the chain better or stronger
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Look at all the articles about how carriers gave the FBI an open ticket to their systems. The government has been doing unwarrented wire taps for years now in the name of security which is BS.
As for the previous comment no you don't get in trouble for things like that but let me tell you a true story about a buddy of mine.
He and his girlfreind got into an argument where she made up lies about how he said he would kill her for threating to run away with their child. The cops find him on a bus leaving state. Tosses him in jail for 4 weeks until he sees a judge as their is no bail in the state for demestic issues. Then he get 6 months probation and has to pay $4000 in fines. Cant go to trial as she cant be found. Now he has assault on his record and is having trouble finding work as all it says is ASSAULT nothing else. All for words he never said. But even if he had it was still just words. Nothing more. No history of violence. Just an empty threat.
Yeah freedom right. Guilty until proven innocent
Wow, never heard this until now
So about ten days ago, the text of the TPP got finalised, and it's really bad for us and the rest of the Internet. Here's an excerpt taken from FFTF:
- Compel ISPs to take down websites without any sort of court order, just like SOPA. (Appendix Section I)
- Extend the US’s copyright regime to require copyrights stand for life plus 70 years, preventing anyone from using works that belong in the public domain. (Article QQ.G.6)
- Criminalize whistleblowing by extending trade secrets laws without any mandatory exemptions for whistleblowers or investigative journalists. (QQ.H.8)
- End anonymity online by forcing every domain name to be associated with a real name and address. (Article QQ.C.12)
- Make it illegal to unlock, modify, or generally tinker with a device you own. (Article QQ.G.10)
- Export the US’s broken copyright policies to the rest of the world without expanding any of the free speech protections, like fair use. (Article QQ.G.17)
The worst part is that this is just one of the TPP’s 30 chapters.
A link to do something about it: https://www.fightthetpp.org/
I didn't read anything about any of this..... And I can see carriers having some say if you got your device on a contract.... And even trying to enforce people not modify it....
But.... There's no way anyone has or will have control over what we do to a device we've paid for and own outright.
Sorry... But I smell conspiracy theory. When I own something, 100%....its mine. I can do what I please with it.
Nothing to fear here.
Edit: What I'm saying is that none of this will ever become reality. :good:
I found this article, which explains a bit on what the TPP will do.
https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp
While I could see this come to be. Good luck on them enforcing it. Other then locking the devices completely down they could never enforce it completely
Sure, they won't be able to control what you do to your device once you buy it. It's yours. You bought it. You can modify it to be the world's most expensive paperweight if you'd like.
But what they can do is limit whether your device can connect to their services and what it can and cannot do with those services. Want to hack your device 6 ways to Sunday? Go right ahead. But want it to be able to work on so and so's network? That's another story.
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Sure, they won't be able to control what you do to your device once you buy it. It's yours. You bought it. You can modify it to be the world's most expensive paperweight if you'd like.
But what they can do is limit whether your device can connect to their services and what it can and cannot do with those services. Want to hack your device 6 ways to Sunday? Go right ahead. But want it to be able to work on so and so's network? That's another story.
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And that is what XDA is all about.... We'll find a way.
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And that is what XDA is all about.... We'll find a way.
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Amen to that, Brother!
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DecentM said:
So about ten days ago, the text of the TPP got finalised, and it's really bad for us and the rest of the Internet. Here's an excerpt taken from FFTF:
- Compel ISPs to take down websites without any sort of court order, just like SOPA. (Appendix Section I)
- Extend the US’s copyright regime to require copyrights stand for life plus 70 years, preventing anyone from using works that belong in the public domain. (Article QQ.G.6)
- Criminalize whistleblowing by extending trade secrets laws without any mandatory exemptions for whistleblowers or investigative journalists. (QQ.H.8)
- End anonymity online by forcing every domain name to be associated with a real name and address. (Article QQ.C.12)
- Make it illegal to unlock, modify, or generally tinker with a device you own. (Article QQ.G.10)
- Export the US’s broken copyright policies to the rest of the world without expanding any of the free speech protections, like fair use. (Article QQ.G.17)
The worst part is that this is just one of the TPP’s 30 chapters.
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this sounds like the premises for a super villain movie.. if this is a thing, why isn't it all over the news?
soraxd said:
if this is a thing, why isn't it all over the news?
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Because American media outlets and the people trying to push this bill don't want you to know about it. Look at every screwed up bill that's passed in the last few years and what was going on around that timeframe. Obama's administration passed a law saying a citizen could be held indefinitely and without cause at any sign of a respiratory illness, did you see that on the news? No. The media spotlight was focused on doctors in Africa catching Ebola. The Brady Bill was re-enacted, was that covered? Nope, instead they focused on Gay Marriage.
They aren't stupid, they know that if they give Americans a hot-button topic to argue over (gay marriage, immigration, etc...) they can sneak things through congress without so much as a whimper from the public. Add to that the fact that they use these "outbreaks" and media sensations to scare people and we literally ask them to remove our rights.
The news, like science, is bought and paid for by these outlets, industries and governments. They are all in bed with each other and it's all for monetary gain. Example: The FDA gets millions of dollars in "fees" with the submission of every new medicine/vaccine that is submitted. There is no fee associated with the submission of these items. Curiously though, they get pushed through. Big Pharm has a chicken pox vaccine, it lasts 10 years (approximately) and is in the list of required shots (which has more than quadrupled in length in the last decade). Chicken pox is now being touted as some horrible, deadly disease. It's a childhood disease that by itself doesn't cause any real harm, and grants you life-long immunity if you catch it, so why is a vaccine needed, especially if it only lasts for 10 years? Answer - $$$
Take measles for example. An "outbreak" of 60 cases, not a single one fatal, and your right to religious exemption from vaccination is taken away. This is so unconstitutional it's not even funny. Your basic human rights and the rights that were the founding premise of this country are being taken away from you daily, yet people question if this would ever come to fruition because it's not on the news...
People only get to see and know what they want them to see and know. So someone with money and a bone to pick decides that modding your phone is not good for their agenda, guess what? It'll be illegal and you probably won't know until it's too late and you're being penalized for it.
So true
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Hi,
who can tell me where inside a android smartphone, there is a flashable firmware
battery?
gpu?
bootrom?
TALGHAN said:
Hi,
who can tell me where inside a android smartphone, there is a flashable firmware
battery?
gpu?
bootrom?
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What?
Can you be more specific?
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harassment online and offline
Droidriven said:
What?
Can you be more specific?
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this forum is not very helpfull
where there is memory you can hide or inject any malicious code inside even a erasement won"t work
it will reaload itself during the boot sequence
it was just to figure it out where is a tranceiver in my devices, it should be not far from the cpu or the memory controller
you should read my other post
its funny to face some military sophisticated grade stuffs
ps: its not the nsa or the cia, i have the same problem of remote control of my devices even where they are no wireless card no bluetooth, no wifi no irda no gps no accelerometer no speakers... so i have indeed tiny tranceiver or modificated hardware (sabotage)
i come from europe not america and when you pissed some important people they prefer to kill your electronically not physically........ for now
to make that simple; nobody is allowed to talk to me....... why ? i never knew.........
TALGHAN said:
this forum is not very helpfull
where there is memory you can hide or inject any malicious code inside even a erasement won"t work
it will reaload itself during the boot sequence
it was just to figure it out where is a tranceiver in my devices, it should be not far from the cpu or the memory controller
you should read my other post
its funny to face some military sophisticated grade stuffs
ps: its not the nsa or the cia, i have the same problem of remote control of my devices even where they are no wireless card no bluetooth, no wifi no irda no gps no accelerometer no speakers... so i have indeed tiny tranceiver or modificated hardware (sabotage)
i come from europe not america and when you pissed some important people they prefer to kill your electronically not physically........ for now
to make that simple; nobody is allowed to talk to me....... why ? i never knew.........
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I think you are probably paranoid, in order for someone to implant a hidden transceiver in your device, they would have to have it in their hands without you knowing about it and it would take some time for them to disassemble your device, add the hardware and then real-assemble your device. Are you sure you haven't watched too many movies?
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Droidriven said:
I think you are probably paranoid, in order for someone to implant a hidden transceiver in your device, they would have to have it in their hands without you knowing about it and it would take some time for them to disassemble your device, add the hardware and then real-assemble your device. Are you sure you haven't watched too many movies?
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its long and complicated
its just because i know what is going on
orelse it will be a nightmare
paranoid no eavedropped yes
TALGHAN said:
how to explain
i have a member of my familly arrested and jailed for 7 years for terrorism charges in belgium
another member not truly from my familly (ex kickboxer and ex military) beat a policeman and be shot by policemen in belgium too
but all my problems begins in france where i lived a long time before that so
its just to show you or show others than i can't be paranoid
and i never had any girlfriend i'm virgin i'm muslim so i'm extremly dangerous........
i live in a redneck town
i have no friend
and i'm not interested in usual stuffs
sophisticated cutting edge technologies
military grade... encryption, weapons, transmissions.....
i used to receive packages all over the world
i speak more english than french.........
so my profile is suspicious maybe for a redneck.........
so in their brains i should be a kind of spy or i dont know...... nobody told me.....but they make me understand since decades that they dont want me here
in this country
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TALGHAN said:
how to explain
i have a member of my familly arrested and jailed for 7 years for terrorism charges in belgium
another member not truly from my familly shot a policeman in belgium too
so yes i'm paranoid it was in the newspaper........
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In that case, it isn't implanted hardware or coding. By law, device makers have to include certain software and hardware that can be utilized by the governments of the world. They can't use it against "everyone", but in certain national security or other illegal/criminal circumstances, they can be granted the right to utilize the tools that takes advantage of the built-in software/hardware. They can do things like turn on/off your camera, turn on off your microphone/speaker, turn on your location services, track your movement, listen to your calls, read your emails and text messages, whatever they want.
These people would not be "hackers", they are the "legal authorities".
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All my post online are deleted and only trolls answer me usually but legal authorities do not try to murder you with complicity of a foreign country in the street in a Arab country and cut off your communication email phone and even fax rejected when try to contact the Minister of justice of France and Morocco and all state worker harass me and my sister everywhere we go
French are not nice at all
Legal authorities reject your credit card , delete your files in your hard drive inject fake ads in your computer put your letter sent directly to the post office in your letterbox... when you call the gendarme = policemen from small town the don't even come.... You don't know the whole story and It is a waste of time so my Sim card was deactivated .... The only thing is to remove of the nationality I have because it's a passport to the cemetery....
French are not nice at all
You don't know the story of the France Snowden would be dead before he put a foot in the airport.... To make that simple you said the truth if you are a problem they kill you
TALGHAN said:
You don't know the story of the France Snowden would be dead before he put a foot in the airport.... To make that simple you said the truth if you are a problem they kill you
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To put it simply, they don't get that serious about someone unless that someone is involved in something serious, whether that someone is a willing participant in the "something serious" or not and regardless of however right or wrong that someone or the "authorities" are. And, yes, at certain levels of threat or suspicious activity, the legal lines that restrict the authorities or agencies, get blurred. That is a necessary policy, yes, it is flawed and gets abused, but it was intended for a purpose and it still serves that purpose to an extent, even with its flaws.
I can't say I agree with governments and policies. But we need some kind of system of rules and security or we would all be living in a world of pure chaos.
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To put it simply, they don't get that serious about someone unless that someone is involved in something serious, whether that someone is a willing participant in the "something serious" or not and regardless of however right or wrong that someone or the "authorities" are. And, yes, at certain levels of threat or suspicious activity, the legal lines that restrict the authorities or agencies, get blurred. That is a necessary policy, yes, it is flawed and gets abused, but it was intended for a purpose and it still serves that purpose to an extent, even with its flaws.
I can't say I agree with governments and policies. But we need some kind of system of rules and security or we would all be living in a world of pure chaos.
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its true but
strangely when you are in your country and you are arab you can be tortured and finish in guantanamo without a trial and of course you have 95% to be innocent....
yes never you see a drug dealer in latina american with a army killed buy a hellfire but a human not criminal can be killed with his familly
you call that : collateral damage
and you can receive a hellfire (missile from drone or helicopter it depends) if you live in the middle east if they think you are a terrorist without proof
like i said trolls and lies
it is useless i will put movies links online and make a wordpress of what i do every day
with a brand new device bought out of france....
then you will see by yourself what i see what i do if the connection works so i have to take a data plan outside my country and its expensive
like i said its ILLEGAL its why i have to take foreign devices
legal authorities not allow pseudo criminal to contact legal authorities ..........; that makes sense..........
during more than 20 years ..........
when i received my first computer (windows 98) a packard bell p2 233mmx) my last name was already inside as username and it was brand new sealed from a store in city near my home)
i can give you all proof if you want (they are reading they are watching and they won't like it.......
so there is 2 possibilities they will expulse me or kill me (or kill me outside the france)
i dont care i'm muslim
innocent mean martyr mean heaven....... unbelievers (the main part of the humankind)will go to hell (from a thora, bible, coran point of view)
ps: its my 3rd vpn service ; i tried nordvpn then protonvpn then mullvad and now airvpn and my vpn block not randomly..... obfuscation tor.... doesn't help at all)
even a flir cam and to proof the 70° overheat cpu and 45° battery.......
and the gigahertz solution case to find the frequency lf and hf ( 700 usd) i never received it............ so been refund via a paypal dispute............
do not disappear (if you are not a trol or a french), you test me i will show you ok???
its funny
because people believe other people without physicall proof
if someone say you are a terrorist and flag you as a terrorist you can't live anywhere in the world.... its just an example
sorry for my english ( videogames, tvshows, movies.....)
TALGHAN said:
its true but
strangely when you are in your country and you are arab you can be tortured and finish in guantanamo without a trial and of course you have 95% to be innocent....
yes never you see a drug dealer in latina american with a army killed buy a hellfire but a human not criminal can be killed with his familly
you call that : collateral damage
and you can receive a hellfire (missile from drone or helicopter it depends) if you live in the middle east if they think you are a terrorist without proof
like i said trolls and lies
it is useless i will put movies links online and make a wordpress of what i do every day
with a brand new device bought out of france....
then you will see by yourself what i see what i do if the connection works so i have to take a data plan outside my country and its expensive
like i said its ILLEGAL its why i have to take foreign devices
legal authorities not allow pseudo criminal to contact legal authorities ..........; that makes sense..........
during more than 20 years ..........
when i receive my first computer (windows 98) a packard bell p2 233mmx) my last name was already inside as username and it was brand new sealed from a store in city near my home)
i can give you all proof if you want (they are reading they are watching and they won't like it.......
so there is 2 possibilities they will expulse me or kill me (or kill me outside the france)
i dont care i'm muslim
innocent mean martyr mean heaven....... unbelievers (the main part of the humankind)will go to hell (from a thora, bible, coran point of view)
ps: its my 3rd vpn service ; i tried nordvpn then protonvpn then mullvad and now airvpn and my vpn block not randomly..... obfuscation tor.... doesn't help at all)
do not disappear (if you are not a trol or a french), you test me i will show you ok???
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You have nothing to prove to me, I'm just a guy that likes android, like is said, I don't know you and I'm not in any position to claim to know anything about anything concerning you or your circumstances.
If people are watching you then I wish you luck.
If they aren't watching, that's even better.
No one deserves mistreatment for any reason.
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You have nothing to prove to me, I'm just a guy that likes android, like is said, I don't know you and I'm not in any position to claim to know anything about anything concerning you or your circumstances.
If people are watching you then I wish you luck.
If they aren't watching, that's even better.
No one deserves mistreatment for any reason.
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i already have this electronic harassment when i had a cpc6128 when i was around 10 years old (and now i'm 34 years old)
the only things(sorry for some mistakes but they are playing with my keyboard too) to know was to lure them to me to expose them it is what i did but i knew things they do not know and they wont believe it so i'm happy ^^ they can live a long very long life.........
and usually i order something nothing comes normally to me
so normality is anormal in my life......
its trials......... its a good thing from a believer point of view
its just my sister almost died too in UAE so they really want to destruct our life.........;
and me in KSA
the only common thing to our problem from the very start since we are child is THE FRANCE only
if i wanted to cry i wont do it on a xda developpers ^^
they will go to hell now
so what ever i can or can't do against them or exposed them is irrelevant now
in fact i can't handle liers.........
i had to fool them like they did with me but in my home because they were watching and listening and spying........ just test them at different location, different hours, with different personns they sent me to check what i was doing (at school, at my job....)
i have no friends no wife and no drive license ......... nothing
i'm free to go
ps: being murdered is not a problem, the problem is the reason ....... because if a foreign country (military) want to kill me even if i dont speak arabic and never had any arab friends and there is no mosque in my redneck town ....... they want other to clean their mess ^^
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Hi
i have plenty of proof online on my facebook and youtube
so
all my stuff are remotely hacked and i cant root my phones
because they dont let me to.......on my computers........ i've followed all your how to but they are destroying everything
so who can sell me 2 android phone rooted brand new
i can pay via paypal confirmed adress
and pay the shipping cost internationally via fedex
and it will be better if you can put a list of software already inside.......(like my vpn soft....)
ps: Never trust a french............lying machine............. crazy lying machine.............
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgqtUtDFVnSWZvXa21fshKg/videos?view_as=subscriber
my youtube channel check my videos
https://www.facebook.com/talibelhoda.ghani.79
check my old posts on facebook and translate in english if they are in french
you will understand my situation