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Super Sim Clone and others

I have searched thru these forums trying an many combo's as I could think of and couldn't find it so hopefully this isnt a repeat set of questions.
-In the Bourne Supremacy, Jason Bourne makes a copy of somebody's sim card which allowed his phone to be on the same call as that person at the same time. All the references I can find to sim cloning state that the second phone must be switched off (or it causes some kind of problem?). So is there any such way to do that with GSM? The only reason I ask is because I work for a CDMA service provider, at sometimes during an ESN swap/upgrade the system will not release the old ESN. The result seems to be that both phones ring at the same time (Though only one can answer). Basically can it be done or is it movie magic?
-During my searches I saw many results for IMEI cloning. Im not sure if I understand why you would want to do this. Some ppl wanted to trick a service provider into giving them service, and I guess some wanted to use a phone that had been banned on a network(?). But really other than using a stolen or banned phone, whats the reason for the popularity of this issue?
-Also I unlock every phone I get, and it looks like there are many US AT&T users here that use or need unlock software. AT&T's general policy nowadays is that they will supply you with the codes for no charge. Just call in and say you bought the phone and will not be using their service. Basically no question asked. Tmobile will give you the code after 90 days with active service, and might give you the code if you arent planning on using their service. So is there another reason for unlocking the phones thru software as opposed to just getting the code? (Is it better, does it do more for you?)
And not a question but a huge, THANK YOU SO MUCH to all of you guys for doing what you do. VP3G's 8525 ROM is awesome (^_^)y

No
in regards to the sim, NO

Help in finding stolen HTC Mozart

Hi,
As the title suggests I lost my HTC mozart in the London tube two weeks back.
Though the microsoft live site boasted of features like find , erase and lock you phone I think it is only possible if you switch on the phone with the same sim.
(I dont think any thief nowadays is stupid enough to do that they would just chuck out the sim and use the phone)
I had informed Orange UK (Where I have contract for the phone but alas with no insurance) and they have informed me that the phone has been black listed and cannot be used anywhere.
I had a few queries and it would be really great if any of you would be able to help.
1) If the imei is black likst can it be used anywhere else (Like in India, Pakistan and all where the black listed numbers might not be shared)
2) Can some one change the imei of the Mozart and use it
3) Is there any way to track my phone based on its imei number
Thanks a lot for your help.
(I would now be using my old Nokia E71 till nokia comes up with some amazing Mango handsets)
Cheers
Shamreez

shamreez said:
Hi,
As the title suggests I lost my HTC mozart in the London tube two weeks back.
Though the microsoft live site boasted of features like find , erase and lock you phone I think it is only possible if you switch on the phone with the same sim.
(I dont think any thief nowadays is stupid enough to do that they would just chuck out the sim and use the phone)
I had informed Orange UK (Where I have contract for the phone but alas with no insurance) and they have informed me that the phone has been black listed and cannot be used anywhere.
I had a few queries and it would be really great if any of you would be able to help.
1) If the imei is black likst can it be used anywhere else (Like in India, Pakistan and all where the black listed numbers might not be shared)
2) Can some one change the imei of the Mozart and use it
3) Is there any way to track my phone based on its imei number
Thanks a lot for your help.
(I would now be using my old Nokia E71 till nokia comes up with some amazing Mango handsets)
Cheers
Shamreez
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Find My Phone is based on your Windows Live ID and relies on a data connection. So as long as the phone has those two things, and the thief did not hard reset the phone, you should have most functionality.

i think phones's location should be on and your live id must have been configured.

myth about chinese method of unlocking the D2G

So, like many of you guys, i bought an D2G from ebay this morning. My phone has not arrived yet but i assume its prob locked by verizon. i took the initiation of seeking how to unlock it, and i landed here. After searching tons of thread with the same topic? i will summarize the major two methods of unlocking the device, so later on, people like me with the same problem doesn't have to. (please correct me if i am wrong)
1. unlock code from VZ or vendor (unlock shack seems to provide refunds, so one might wanna give it a try.)
2. turbo sim (i used it for iphone4 and it works, but i cant say the same with d2g.)
couple members mentions some dude in china works out a method but you will have to send the phone in. it just happens to be that i speaks chinese, so i went over to the china great firewall in attempt to search for an answer. Apparently the method is no secret. The chinese said that this unlocking method is done through software and worked the same as the unlock code by verizon. The only difference is after the unlock process, the IMEI of your phone will turn into a 16 digits number starting with 0000. I got class in a lil bit, so this is my search so far. i will keep you all updated with my process. if i find a solution. i will make a tut for yall.

IMO changing the imei number isn't a solution at all. Thanks for info.

Changing imei isn't the solution but rather the outcome of the software unlock, but many said the unlock code doesn't work. I would assume many would prefer a better solution which promise certainty, especially when it's a paid service.

Why bother with esothic methods when you can unlock the phone with an online service and 10$ ?

The Solutor said:
Why bother with esothic methods when you can unlock the phone with an online service and 10$ ?
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Unfortunately - not always. Some are "tough nuts" and only Verizon can unlock them. And probably those Chinese guys..
IMEI must be 15 digit though, not 16. I only see problem if they use same IMEI for everyone. Two phones with one IMEI on one network is a call for trouble..
For the record - chaning IMEI number of a GSM phone is illegal in most countries.

leobg said:
Unfortunately - not always. Some are "tough nuts" and only Verizon can unlock them. And probably those Chinese guys..
IMEI must be 15 digit though, not 16. I only see problem if they use same IMEI for everyone. Two phones with one IMEI on one network is a call for trouble..
For the record - chaning IMEI number of a GSM phone is illegal in most countries.
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Apparently, the method switch the original imei 35xxxxxxxxxxxxx of d2g to 0000xxxxxxxxxxx but digits after 0000 are not identical, from there they can calculate the pin code and is available for free. And as i read more, the chinese change esn for the cdma to work. Even thou changing imei or esn is illegal, i doubt they really regulate such act lol. And chill out on the negativity, a thriving forum are great only if their member share their knowledge and benefit us all. My last phone was Nokia n900, and the phone are still popular today due to the community's contributions:

No negativity here. I will be glad if all those having problems unlocking their phone finally find a way to sort their unlock issue.
Discussions about modifying IMEI/ESN is not allowed here on XDA (as well as most other similar forums) hence I expressed this concern.

leobg said:
Unfortunately - not always.
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I know.
But I still think that any alternative method should be taken in account only if you are one of those unlucky owners, not when the phone is still on its way...

[Q] SIM Unlocking [smart]phones nowadays

Hey, everyone!
I was perusing the forums for sim unlocking an HTC 7 pro. Many years have passed since I adquired my 8125, and it is still serving me faithfully. Yes, it is still working
Back then we just had to flash the roms, I think the radio part did the trick, and then phone was thus unlocked.
But the couple of hours I spent today looking for some insight only led me to 3rd party sites which charge money for sim unlocks. Those require the carrier to be mentioned in order for them to provide an unlocking code. So I can't just buy a phone off ebay and expect to get a code from those sites. US cellular, for instance, is never listed on them. Besides, $25 is not bucks where I live >.>
Is that really how SIM unlockings are handled here now, or have I just been really unlucky with my skimmings and searches?
TYVM, have a great day!

I believe there is no free option in order to get the HTC 7 Pro unlocked, unless you can get the seller to call their cell phone provider to get the code. Most, if not all, windows phones don't have a free option to unlock but I could be wrong on that. But if you already have a HTC 7 Pro I think you're gonna have to cough up some cash and use some unlocking websites...

Well, thanks for the straight answer.
Oh, no, I don't have one, yet. I was thinking of Buying one off Ebay, used and locked. It is harsh having to pay for switching carriers, but maybe that is what they had intended with their locking in the first place
Hmmm. Do you know, by chance, if this is the norm for smartphones recently, not being able to sim unlock them at home? Or is this device special for that matter? or was it not popular enough to tinker with it?
TY, again. Peace

I wouldn't say your device special in regards to that, all phones come SIM locked. Its just some android phones are easier to unlock during the process of rooting phones. I know for my old HTC touch running windows, it was easy to unlock since you basically had to move a couple files. I think windows 7 in general makes it harder in general to unlock as opposed to android.

hi, i have Huawi U8150 and it's network locked i can't run all the SIM card.. it can be unlock..?

azii said:
hi, i have Huawi U8150 and it's network locked i can't run all the SIM card.. it can be unlock..?
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you should post your own thread if you have any questions...yes you can unlock your phone to work with your network provider.

Suggestions for Unlocking problem

Hello All,
Recently got an ATT branded 8X and so far, with a few minor issues, I love it. That said, I have a bit of a problem with unlocking. I purchased an unlock code from *htcsimunlock.com and then inserted my TMO UK sim. Phone booted up and then it asked me for the unlcock code. I enter it and it comes back as a sim error. I tried this with a TMO US sim too and had the same result. The company will not return my emails either so I am not getting much luck on that end either (buyer beware).
So, I thought I would come to the one place I always seem to get answers, whether I like them or not :crying:
Ideas please? Cheers.

mobi said:
Hello All,
Recently got an ATT branded 8X and so far, with a few minor issues, I love it. That said, I have a bit of a problem with unlocking. I purchased an unlock code from *htcsimunlock.com and then inserted my TMO UK sim. Phone booted up and then it asked me for the unlcock code. I enter it and it comes back as a sim error. I tried this with a TMO US sim too and had the same result. The company will not return my emails either so I am not getting much luck on that end either (buyer beware).
So, I thought I would come to the one place I always seem to get answers, whether I like them or not :crying:
Ideas please? Cheers.
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Unfortunately, they sent you the wrong unlock code. The code is associated with the IMEI of the phone, not the SIM card.
Keep trying to contact them.

drtolson said:
Unfortunately, they sent you the wrong unlock code. The code is associated with the IMEI of the phone, not the SIM card.
Keep trying to contact them.
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Thanks drtolson. I realize that the the IMEI is the basis for the CU. My problem is after it asks me for the unlock, I get an invalid sim error message. I think you may have misundertood my question.
I have tried repeatedly to contact them but they just ignore me. Not cool I know but thats the fact of it.
The only thing thats related here is the fact that both sim's have been TMO. I can't imagine it being an issue and it has not been with all the phones I've unlcoked before... I'm stumped.

The reason that you are getting the invalid sim error message is because the unlock is not working, then it detects that the sim is not an AT&T sim and says that it is invalid. You need to get the right unlock code. And get a refund for the wrong one that they provided you.

Never use any imei unlocking services!
99% of operators lock the phones by themselves due to a huge leakage at the manufacturer's side.
So i, as an unlocking expert for last 20 years, advise you all guys NOT to use any IMEI based services.
Most of the unlocking websites are offering a wide range of unlocking services based on your IMEI number, but for last 3 years, the amount of successful unlocks via IMEI is greatly dropped down to 1%. So if you got your phone unlocked by IMEI today it does not mean that the next phone will also be unlocked.
Moreover - nobody will return you the money before they earn enough, most of them are buying the codes same way you do but in bulk and before they get enough to cover what they have spent to get it - no returns Sometimes no returns at all.
It's a huge cheating and a gamble. The feedbacks they leave on their websites are written by themselves. And there are lot of tricks you guys don't know.
So just DON"T USE IT!
Use online unlocking solutions where you can see what is happening and for sure there is a person behind the unlocking software, so at least you have a chance to return your money.
Spread it.
Regards

Certainly seems like I'm the victim of a scam here. Now I have to decide if the $15+/- I've paid is woth all the aggrevation and time of a charge back. I hate being rooted if you know what I mean...
I've tried to contact these guys three more times since this post all to no avail. Please guys, keep this in mind if you're looking for an unlock. Don't use w.htcsimunlock.com/.
Perhaps we should have a sticky of unlock guys we know to be legit. What about you maxrfon? You have any way to unlock an 8X?
maxrfon said:
99% of operators lock the phones by themselves due to a huge leakage at the manufacturer's side.
So i, as an unlocking expert for last 20 years, advise you all guys NOT to use any IMEI based services.
Most of the unlocking websites are offering a wide range of unlocking services based on your IMEI number, but for last 3 years, the amount of successful unlocks via IMEI is greatly dropped down to 1%. So if you got your phone unlocked by IMEI today it does not mean that the next phone will also be unlocked.
Moreover - nobody will return you the money before they earn enough, most of them are buying the codes same way you do but in bulk and before they get enough to cover what they have spent to get it - no returns Sometimes no returns at all.
It's a huge cheating and a gamble. The feedbacks they leave on their websites are written by themselves. And there are lot of tricks you guys don't know.
So just DON"T USE IT!
Use online unlocking solutions where you can see what is happening and for sure there is a person behind the unlocking software, so at least you have a chance to return your money.
Spread it.
Regards
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mobi said:
Hello All,
Recently got an ATT branded 8X and so far, with a few minor issues, I love it. That said, I have a bit of a problem with unlocking. I purchased an unlock code from *htcsimunlock.com and then inserted my TMO UK sim. Phone booted up and then it asked me for the unlcock code. I enter it and it comes back as a sim error. I tried this with a TMO US sim too and had the same result. The company will not return my emails either so I am not getting much luck on that end either (buyer beware).
So, I thought I would come to the one place I always seem to get answers, whether I like them or not :crying:
Ideas please? Cheers.
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I use www(dot)cellunlocker.net. My carriers is Rogers Canada, currently using Virgin Mobile (Acquire by Bell) unlock successful.
Hope this help you.

maxrfon said:
99% of operators lock the phones by themselves due to a huge leakage at the manufacturer's side.
So i, as an unlocking expert for last 20 years, advise you all guys NOT to use any IMEI based services.
Most of the unlocking websites are offering a wide range of unlocking services based on your IMEI number, but for last 3 years, the amount of successful unlocks via IMEI is greatly dropped down to 1%. So if you got your phone unlocked by IMEI today it does not mean that the next phone will also be unlocked.
Moreover - nobody will return you the money before they earn enough, most of them are buying the codes same way you do but in bulk and before they get enough to cover what they have spent to get it - no returns Sometimes no returns at all.
It's a huge cheating and a gamble. The feedbacks they leave on their websites are written by themselves. And there are lot of tricks you guys don't know.
So just DON"T USE IT!
Use online unlocking solutions where you can see what is happening and for sure there is a person behind the unlocking software, so at least you have a chance to return your money.
Spread it.
Regards
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The chance to get the right code is based on the professionality of the service you use... a good service offers you fully refund if you send in Video with the missing functionality of the code.
There are a lot of cheaters on the customer-side too...

Also got scamed by *htcsimunlock.com , but i have called my bank, their money gateway and posted a complain. I hope they dont get the money, because its only reserved. Shame..

Loshme said:
Also got scamed by *htcsimunlock.com , but i have called my bank, their money gateway and posted a complain. I hope they dont get the money, because its only reserved. Shame..
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You know, now I'm not so sure... I also had a Lumia 900 and the battery went. ATT replaced it with a refurb and since my original phone was already unlocked by them they gave me the unlock code for that one too. I could never get it to work so I got on the phone with customer service. They took me through the steps and they could not get it either. They sent me another one again, warranty replacement and gave me an unlock code for that too. That didnt work.
Today I read this post on the Lumia forum; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056808 I tried it and it worked. It unlocked my Lumia. I think I'll try the 8X tonight and see. If it does get unlocked, I'll let you know.
I have nothing to lose by doing this now.

mobi said:
You know, now I'm not so sure... I also had a Lumia 900 and the battery went. ATT replaced it with a refurb and since my original phone was already unlocked by them they gave me the unlock code for that one too. I could never get it to work so I got on the phone with customer service. They took me through the steps and they could not get it either. They sent me another one again, warranty replacement and gave me an unlock code for that too. That didnt work.
Today I read this post on the Lumia forum; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056808 I tried it and it worked. It unlocked my Lumia. I think I'll try the 8X tonight and see. If it does get unlocked, I'll let you know.
I have nothing to lose by doing this now.
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I have tried this now, and nothing, asked for puk code.. I will try it again, with another card.

Loshme said:
I have tried this now, and nothing, asked for puk code.. I will try it again, with another card.
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Yep. Same thing here Loshme. Didn't work so now I'm pretty positive I got a bum code. Buyer beware!

mobi said:
Yep. Same thing here Loshme. Didn't work so now I'm pretty positive I got a bum code. Buyer beware!
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Should I say that I have bought another code at different site, and still no go! I think that some providers changed unlocking codes for our devices.