[Q] DFT WML (Windows Mobile Loader) news ? (new picture !!!) - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

As I would really like to know a "when" but, I was really just wondering if there has been any news on the DFT project of a Windows Mobile loader for Windows Phone 7.
It was tweeted about here..
https://twitter.com/#!/CotullaCode/status/169865585591721985
We head a nice buzz about it on about 2 months ago with a video but, now nothing and has anyone heard any news on it ?
I have searched and googled the "heck" out of it with nothing but old news...
This is NOT looking for a ETA (that would be breaking XDA rules) I am just wondering if there has been progress or news on it.
Thanks !

I'm not aware of any. That's a bit surprising, considering that it looked pretty polished int he preview videos. It would be nice if the DFT forum weren't so inaccessible to most people who frequent XDA-Devs; there's a number of other forums as well and it's too bad that the hacking and homebrew community ineitably ends up fragmented as a result.

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I'm not aware of any. That's a bit surprising, considering that it looked pretty polished int he preview videos. It would be nice if the DFT forum weren't so inaccessible to most people who frequent XDA-Devs; there's a number of other forums as well and it's too bad that the hacking and homebrew community ineitably ends up fragmented as a result.
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Exactly why I posted this. The Video looked like it was almost ready, there was hype about it and that was it. That was about 2 months ago.
And your so true about the fragmentation, it's too bad.
Thanks for your reply !

I guess no one has heard anything about this project ? Man, I have about 3-4 apps (nothing too fancy) that would love to run again and at least see if it was as good as I remember.
This sounded like a cool project..

It's been a while and I would really like this. My old Touch Pro's VGA display is too small to use my old 6.1/5 apps...
So, what they heck, anyone have a update on this ?

There has been a fair amount of silence of several projects lately, I suspect they are just busy.
Although in saying that, we're still waiting on WM6 ROM for the Alpine! that had a video published several years ago sooo.....
My guess is that development has been poured in to sorting out HSPL for various devices and similar tasks, after all, that is a much more useful project for a lot more individuals.
If you want my advice, just forget about it, that way, if and when its done then you can be over the moon again
rather then spend the next 6 months being annoyed about it all!

Cotulla posted some news on his twitter account lately

dazza9075 said:
There has been a fair amount of silence of several projects lately, I suspect they are just busy.
Although in saying that, we're still waiting on WM6 ROM for the Alpine! that had a video published several years ago sooo.....
My guess is that development has been poured in to sorting out HSPL for various devices and similar tasks, after all, that is a much more useful project for a lot more individuals.
If you want my advice, just forget about it, that way, if and when its done then you can be over the moon again
rather then spend the next 6 months being annoyed about it all!
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I hear ya, I was just trying to see if there was anything new. Not that I would use it every day but, There are somethings I would use.
and I checked his twitter feed...
Ah, a new image....I guess they got network support now, Nice ! Maybe we are getting closer to a beta or a release !!!
https://twitter.com/CotullaCode/status/210394783787663361/photo/1
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I hear ya, I was just trying to see if there was anything new. Not that I would use it every day but, There are somethings I would use.
and I checked his twitter feed...
Ah, a new image....I guess they got network support now, Nice ! Maybe we are getting closer to a beta or a release !!!
https://twitter.com/CotullaCode/status/210394783787663361/photo/1
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Maybe they are busy doing away with those God awful 1 2 3 buttons at the bottom of the screen; God I hope so

I am eagerly waiting for this release from DFT. I read somewhere that it uses something called hTC Gold to emulate. I really hope that it works on a Samsung Focus.

"HTC Gold" is HTC's internal name for the model of phone commonly known as the "HTC 7 Pro" (the CDMA variant, commonly called "HTC Arrive", is known as the "HTC Gold_C"). The phone you see in the picture above is an HTC Gold model.
As for whether it will work on a Focus, I can't be certain of that but I would guess that yes, it probably can. It depends on how much they're relying on the hardware of the phone, vs. just virtualizing all of that, though. For example, the 7 Pro (Gold) has a hardware keybaord, as you can see. The Focus does not, so if for some reason the hardware keyboard is required, that won't work. However, in most ways, all gen1 and even gen2 Windows phones are very similar.

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"HTC Gold" is HTC's internal name for the model of phone commonly known as the "HTC 7 Pro" (the CDMA variant, commonly called "HTC Arrive", is known as the "HTC Gold_C"). The phone you see in the picture above is an HTC Gold model.
As for whether it will work on a Focus, I can't be certain of that but I would guess that yes, it probably can. It depends on how much they're relying on the hardware of the phone, vs. just virtualizing all of that, though. For example, the 7 Pro (Gold) has a hardware keybaord, as you can see. The Focus does not, so if for some reason the hardware keyboard is required, that won't work. However, in most ways, all gen1 and even gen2 Windows phones are very similar.
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Oh ok. Thanks for clearing that out. Talking about Windows Phone, today is a huge day for our beloved platform. Sorry to be off topic, but I just could not resist it.

Has anyone seen any new news on this ?

According to his Twitter page, there was some updates, It's now running WM 6.5 (instead of 6.1), wonder how close we are to a release...

Does anyone know if there is any news on this?
Best regards

I guess we'll know when cotulla wants us to know...I just hope it doesn't get dropped... It would be so useful!

Desperately waiting for DFT WML?
I'm looking forward to getting this Windows mobile loader too, as I'd like to keep running my brave old. ListPro. App for which I haven't found any decent and valid substitute yet.
Could DFT tell us what the real status is?

Don't hold your breath, this has been dead for ages unless anyone has any new news?
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[UPDATED] The PlayStation Phone

Looks like Android might finally have a fighting chance in the gaming segment of the mobile OS world. While this only shows some hardware and doesn't say much about their game plan, I think it's great. If Sony and Google start producing some quality games for Android, MS definitely will come back swinging! Which means more games and choices for everyone. We might even see MS come out with a slider phone that has gaming controls!
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Those blank spots better be for dual nubs. Other than that, fugly hardware accompanied by a great OS.
EDIT: It'd look fine if they made it look almost exactly like a PSP GO or a X10 Pro.
Honestly, Android games are lackluster at best. I'd be highly surprised if SE could make a phone good enough to challenge MS's Xbox LIVE integration in WP7.
Not to mention SE has a track record for putting old software on their NEW phones *cough* DONUT *cough*... I'm thinking it'll be DOA.
This isn't Google's device, but Sony's. This is there product and probably be the only Android device to legitimately support PSP titles. So this one device has to compete against the not one but nine WP7 devices. It's also probably digital download only which killed sales of the PSPGo, I'm guessing it's gonna do the same here. And if it doesn't add updated graphics there kinda wouldn't be a point.
meh. looks like a cheap UI like on every othe android device. gaming on android sucks anyway. there are hardly any decent titles.
My goodness where is all this misinformation coming from. First its only a prototype device. Second its chip beats every WP7 device. Third Android has a boatload of games from top gaming companies that also support the iPhone(which pawns every other mobile gaming phone OS).
One device versus 9? Be serious the iPhone 4 pawns every UNRELEASED WP7 device.
vetvito said:
My goodness where is all this misinformation coming from. First its only a prototype device. Second its chip beats every WP7 device. Third Android has a boatload of games from top gaming companies that also support the iPhone(which pawns every other mobile gaming phone OS).
One device versus 9? Be serious the iPhone 4 pawns every UNRELEASED WP7 device.
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I never said it wasn't a prototype. You can tell just by looking at it, that this device was somewhat thrown together.
Just putting this out there:
If you want to game, just go for WP7.
Android is a huge joke when it comes to gaming, WP7 has a huge group of real video game developers, plus the addition of XBL. Whoever said PSP games were any good anyway?
Regardless, this looks interesting
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Moved to General as it has nothing to do with WP7.
whats up with the two dots covering up the space for a half querty ?
souljaboy said:
whats up with the two dots covering up the space for a half querty ?
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I think they're kinda like the things on F and J keys on a keyboard. Tell you where to place your thumbs maybe..
I duno how I feel replacing the analog stick with a multi touch pad.
I think it would be neat to see them make a controller case for other android phones, that communicated via. blue tooth. That way, establishing a hardware platform would be significantly easier.
I would NEVER buy one, no more SonyEricsson for me thank you...
S/E are just fuc&%#¤ with us customers, they only send out old android versions, and they don´t keep their promises to us...
So pleace think long and hard about it before you spend money on that company...
Yeah I've never heard good things about SE phones. But things could change. It will most likely ship with 2.2.1 or hopefully Gingerbread.
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New links in OP.
There's another thread about this exact topic, could a mod please merge them?
On-topic: I actually like the look of this phone, might think about getting one (once I've seen the release version)

XDA: The time is right

Dear XDA: I think the time has come for you to step out of the shadows. I was at Barnes and Noble the other day and started looking for a magazine in their sizable magazine section. I was frustrated when i went to look for a magazine about android -anything- and found zero mags. However, i did happen to find 12 magazines covering apple. Soo i searched online and to my dismay have only found one magazine that covers android and only apps. Please save all of us who love android and need something to read on the toilet. I promise you i will be the first to subscribe. There is a desert wasteland when it comes to android magazines and you could be our oasis. Seems like now could be the opportune time.
(sorry for the dramatics...just thought it would be fun to post my thoughts about this...)
A magazine on Android ? hmmm...
It's a good idea. There's inough content out there right now to fill a year's worth of monthly editions. I'd subscribe (as long as it wasn't priced unreasonably), and it could open way more people to Android rooting/flashing/modding...
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+1 thats whats missing actually. go for it XDA. u properly backed up anyway, so ...
Definitely a good idea. The democracy has always overthrowed the dictatorship. That's just the way the world goes.
If nothing else, and I hate to say it, think of the revenues.
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an XDA-MAg it's a good idea, specially if my work it's on the front page....hehehe .
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Sounds cool. But sounds dangerous for xda also. Just thinking that people who aren't supposed to root or mod their phones might pick up a magazine andtry, then fail, maybe even brick their phones, and then they try sue xda. All i'm trying to say is I think it's best for people who don't have the mindset for modding or whatnot, to not be introduced to it or even tempted.
Kailkti said:
Sounds cool. But sounds dangerous for xda also. Just thinking that people who aren't supposed to root or mod there phones might pick up a magazine and try, then fail, maybe even brick their phones, and then they try sue xda. All i'm trying to say is I think it's best for people who don't have the mindset for modding or whatnot, to not be introduced to it or even tempted.
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A Warning on any article helps, they cannot get sued just because someone brick their phone, it wont be XDA fault.
Yeah but some narrow-minded twit is bound to try and go after xda at some point anyways, if it hasn't happened already. And there's always an opportunistic lawyer to accomodate (apologies to any members who happen to be lawyers lol). That's why there are disclaimers at the top of almost every thread. At least magazine revenue would help pay the legal defense fees.
This site has gotten so big since Android got hot, there's a constant influx of people who just bought their first smartphone and already know they want it rooted with CM7 and A2SD, but have no idea how to make it happen. If properly implemented, the mag could be a roadmap to get them started, and teach them some forum etiquitte (search, read, search, read, find correct forum to ask in) before they end up neck deep in technical terms they've never heard before, and a device that no longer boots. Beats following some half-ass youtube video with a megaupload link and then having a first post on xda titled 'help i bricked my...'
Edit: damn you, skepticalguy, you stole my spot ;-p
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yes,agree............
TheSkepticalGuy said:
A Warning on any article helps, they cannot get sued just because someone brick their phone, it wont be XDA fault.
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A warning/disclaimer won't be a magical 'no lawsuit' pass for anyone. If enough people face issues and ends up bricking their devices, the magazine will get sued. Whether the lawsuit succeeds or not is up in the air, but I doubt it's 100% guaranteed to fail and, more likely than not, retailers selling the magazine will then ask themselves if they should continue stocking it or not.
And, of course, we're just talking about lawsuits from regular folks. Imagine if Google (or any number of other corporations involved in profiting from Android) gets a hold of the news that there's a magazine out there advising the general population on hacking the OS. Somehow, I think this is going to be another one of those times when 'Do No Evil' no longer applies.
If XDA decides to gets its own magazine, it should do what others have done: Give advice to look up how to do it, but do not offer any direct advice. If the people reading the magazine decides to continue doing it, then they only have whatever advice source they looked up to blame if something screws up. Of course, this still doesn't give the 'No Lawsuits' pass, but it'll probably be a much stronger case for the magazine.
All of this could just be my pessimism speaking, so no one has to feel that what I said will be unalterable reality. Still, it seems like an awful lot of risk for an attempt to get into a market that is supposedly not doing so well. I mean, there's nothing wrong with being online-exclusive. I doubt Engadget, with its 5+ million visitors, is complaining.
True true. The xda portal is pretty much like engadget itself. And engadget gets some of its news from xda also. Guess the problem is, the amount of people that are interested in hacking and modding, which is a relatively small amount. And well, as said before, we don't want to be inviting people who aren't supposed to be hacking or modding, else we get more threads saying how they bricked their phones. So maybe it's best to just stay as it is now.
^ Yes, you are right about that, but perhaps it's not as matter of exposure.
Look at the iPhone. Jailbreaking is much more widespread than Android rooting, but last I heard, it was still only about 2-4% of the entire iPhone userbase that was doing it. As others mentioned, there are several iPhone/Apple magazines too.
I think hacking has always been the domain of a small number of folks who probably knows the method to find out how to do such things by themselves anyway. The overwhelming majority probably doesn't want to hack and additional exposure by magazines to them might increase the hacking community by a small amount, but probably not any very significantly.
Rooting/jailbreaking/custom ROMS/etc will probably continue to be the domain of folks like those who frequent XDA and it's unlikely that it'll ever be as popular as, say, downloading MP3s until it becomes a super easy/risk-free task that has an undeniable benefit to the common man.
But frankly, I don't see a need to make it as common as downloading MP3s anyway. XDA is freely available to anyone who wants to know and, for those who don't want to know, let them continue using a stock Samsung Nexus S.
Yes... xda is the way forward! It is improving alot!!!!!!!!!
Now we have xda tv, i cant wait to see whats next!
Also @OP, why don't you take your phone to the toilet LOL You will have your all in one phone/magazine/browser
Jokes!
LMAO I actually just read the last few posts on the crapper!! Get out of my head!
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huggs said:
LMAO I actually just read the last few posts on the crapper!! Get out of my head!
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ahahahh

Galaxy S II for AT&T leaks through Samsung's Facebook photos

Galaxy S II for AT&T leaks through Samsung's Facebook photos
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Samsung’s upcoming Galaxy S II for the AT&T network made a surprise appearance yesterday. To be dubbed the Samsung Attain, it was spotted in Samsung Singapore’s Facebook photos which were showing off the new dock for the device.
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As you can see from the picture, the AT&T logo is prominently placed on the front. The keys below the display look different compared to the standard Galaxy S II. Instead of a mechanical Home button you now get a capacitive one and there is a dedicated search button as well.
While initially the device did seem like the Infuse 4G to us but then when we saw the side profile we noticed that the camera on this phone was jutting out of the case far more than the one on the Infuse 4G. In fact the camera on the Infuse 4G is completely flush with the body, unlike the one on the Galaxy S II. So the one you see above is undoubtedly the AT&T Attain.
For now, however, we have no information available on the launch date of the device but we will keep an eye out for that.
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Looks nice but still prefer the EU version with a home button.
That looks pretty sweet, but i agree; I like the Korean/EU version better with the three button look.
Saw this a while back. Depending on whether I have the money laying around I'll upgrade to that next.
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This will come out as the Samsung Function for Verizon.
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This will come out as the Samsung Function for Verizon.
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That's why at&t is standing on it
foollllllllll
but can it be rooted to get atnt's crap off of it?
atnt is unrootable.
or just get monsantos chemical roundup **** and spray it on your atnt branded phone.
what makes you think atnt is unrootable?
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what makes you think atnt is unrootable?
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because nobody has ever rooted a atnt phone.. never even heard of atnt company till now. I wonder if AT&T will have legal issues over this
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because nobody has ever rooted a atnt phone.. never even heard of atnt company till now. I wonder if AT&T will have legal issues over this
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I have a feeling those people running 2.3.4 on their atrix would beg to differ.
And how could you have never heard of AT&T? Your post is nonsensical.
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I have a feeling those people running 2.3.4 on their atrix would beg to differ.
And how could you have never heard of AT&T? Your post is nonsensical.
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how in the world are you a senior member and not even see the dry humor in what just transpired there. let me guess, your more of a analytical guy and not a design/imaginative guy. you didn't even fully read my comment, or else you would have seen the different spellings. i sure hope you don't help people with their questions with that selective reading disorder of yours
My bad, if you were joking I completely missed it. Just a lot of people on the forums will come through here browsing, see something like that and take what they see here as gospel. I'm not in any position to speak for AT&T, I've just seen development take place on several of their phones (particularly the atrix now that the bootloader is unlocked). I didn't see it clarified in this thread so I thought I would.
Your post came across a bit uninformed/jumbled, if you were messing around then that's one thing, just maybe clarify in the future for the sake of any newer members that will probably take what they see at face value. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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My bad, if you were joking I completely missed it. Just a lot of people on the forums will come through here browsing, see something like that and take what they see here as gospel. I'm not in any position to speak for AT&T, I've just seen development take place on several of their phones (particularly the atrix now that the bootloader is unlocked). I didn't see it clarified in this thread so I thought I would.
Your post came across a bit uninformed/jumbled, if you were messing around then that's one thing, just maybe clarify in the future for the sake of any newer members that will probably take what they see at face value. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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its cool, i was just kidding anyways. i was basically making it somewhat more obvious what the previous poster (•.•) was saying to pukemon.(the guy who was trying to ghettofy AT&T). He wasn't being serious, at least i hope not...
I just was correcting the confusion without calling him out, and adding on a little humor at the same time. But since we are ending all the fun, just to restate...
YES! AT&T can be rooted!
P.S.~~technically AT&T(a company) cant even be rooted, its their phones that can
looks great
i think S2 is coming out in sep2011
this is an amazing phone, can't wait for official us launch!
Can someone spot any differences between that phone and HTC Inspire?
Wait the att version isnt going to have the home button?? wtf man
I know, tell me about it. I thought it was about damn time we get a good android phone that isn't fitted with the norm. But word on the grape vine is that AT&T is holding out till september or so, and they are going to slap a dual 1.4 ghz cpu in it I have a tilt 2, and have been waiting to upgrade to this beast for 4 months already, and the thought of having to wait another 2-3 months seems almost unbearable. It's almost making me give in and get the thrill 4g... almost anyways

Im Finally Back! With some big annoucements!

Hello friends at XDA, I haven’t forgot about you. In fact, I want to invite three of you guys for free to our very own conference...SAMSUNG DEVELOPER CONFERENCE!” Svetius is in charge of selecting the three that will attend.
“The Journey Has Already Begun” – Converging TV, tablet computers, and mobile phones to create a “take anywhere” digital world for customers.
Time: Tuesday, November 8 8:00AM-8:00PM
Location: Intercontinental Hotel
Event Link: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=160009317422522
More big announcements to come
Follow me on Twitter: @SamsungJohn
Special thanks to: Captainkrtek & Egzthunder
Hey Welcome Back John
you might want to expand a bit more on the Location, rather than just mentioning the hotel name
there are too many Intercontinental Hotel around the world
I want to come! lol
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Thanks man
never mind found it, had to go into facebook to be able to click the link
Intercontinental Hotel in · San Francisco, California
i'd love to go, but it's too far for me, unless the plane ticket is included
anyways, so back in topic, what are the big news!
i'm really exited
Galaxy Notes release?
Nexus Prime release?
Galaxy S2 Hercules release?
Galaxy Player release?
there are so many upcoming products that it'll be hard to guess which one or perhaps all of them at once? lol
Yea, i should have included that.
Also, if you haven't already seen this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM9RO-GAKjE&feature=player_embedded
yeah it's been up for like 3 days already in this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289656
for anyone just arriving to the conversation, we are talking about the nexus prime teaser video
Welcome back John!
After months of exchanges in private chats, I'm happy you can now speak real in forums directly
And... about the event.. indeed the teaser is exciting ^^
Please allow me to go. I would be able to learn the most from this presentation and I would be able to provide valuable feedback. I would ensure that I relay as much as possible to members of this site as well.
It is important that I attend this conference as I have a lot of time invested in Samsung research and development. This conference has potential to tie up a lot of loose ends, answer my current questions and springboard me onto other open source projects.
From what I have seen, something big would be announced. With my background in hardware and software, I feel I could help others understand more then most. If someone less knowledgeable were sent, the finer points may be lost in the sauce.
A lot of top brass from Samsung will be there... engineers and developers which I may never have a chance to meet again. These people have information which I need, like Exynos processor technologies and OMAP signal descriptions. If they do not have the information, these are the people who would know where to find it. When I get this info, XDA wins with documentation and new recovery/hacking techniques... I've already uncovered a lot with UBM, UART Root and others... All of this has taken months to research. Can you imagine my joy if I had a chance to sit down with a Samsung engineer and get easy answers?
Please pick me to go out to this conference. I've hacked more Samsung devices then most people on this site. I've published the knowledge I've gained about my projects on this site. If you send me, you can be sure that I will relay any knowledge gained to this site.
It would be an honor to be selected for this and I feel I could learn a lot.
Welcome (back) John. Glad to see you here again after our private chats
I would of course also hope to be one of those three selected (due to being a vocal Samsung supporter since the Omnia and most of my developments being focused on Samsung hardware for years now) - but I guess that goes for pretty much everyone
P.S. I do have an XDA t-shirt I could wear
IMO i'll vote for azrienoch to go, and send us a live feed of the show, there's no one better for the job
Hey, I love azrienoch as much as the next person, though arguably less than SassiBoB does, but if the three people picked by Svetius aren't actually developers ...
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Hey, I love azrienoch as much as the next person, though arguably less than SassiBoB does, but if the three people picked by Svetius aren't actually developers ...
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Defeats the point. We agree.
Thanks Chainfire, please do stay in touch. As for me, I'm going to check out some of the XDA Samsung forums and see what's been going on.
I'd love to go just for the heck of it to see what it's all about.
So if it's not an exclusive for developers only, I wouldn't mind getting picked! I can definitely drop by CA even though I'm far up north
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I'd love to go just for the heck of it to see what it's all about.
So if it's not an exclusive for developers only, I wouldn't mind getting picked! I can definitely drop by CA even though I'm far up north
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ahemm... that was their message, it's only for developers
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ahemm... that was their message, it's only for developers
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Yeah I know it's for developers, hence why i asked if it was exclusively for developers, like, literally (e.g., requires some sort of proof of a being a 'developer' to enter the conference). If it is, no problem. Doesn't hurt to ask.
Cyanogen
Anyone know if Steve Kondik (Cyanogen) is going to be at the show?
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is there a hint or hidden message having the document date side ways?
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Attn RDs: Win a CuBox from Solid-Run

Want to get started developing for these cool Android Stick Computers? Let us know your idea, and you are automatically entered for a chance to win one of three CuBox units, thanks to the kind generosity of Solid-Run!
Note: This contest is open to Recognized Developers who live in the US and UK only. Winners will be selected by myself and Elite Recognized Developer AdamOutler. More details will follow in the associated XDA Portal post, so be sure to check out www.xda-developers.com .
Good luck to all who enter!
Edit: Contest is now live! http://www.xda-developers.com/android/win-a-cubox-from-solid-run/
Aww.. I'm selecting? I was going to enter and offer to develop a way to brick one seeing as how their website says they're Unbrickable for developers.. Sounds like a challenge. Someone else do this for me
I would consider toying with XBMC, linux, android or whatever i can toy with on it and look at trying to do an AOSP/Cyanogenmod build on it if its possible. Its very low powered, but appears to have some kernel source available. Is it feasible to be done? no idea. Would have to take a shot at it to find out.
Thanks,
-h8rift
EDIT: Just re-read Adam's note...yeah i'm sure i'll brick it along the way and let you know how it goes, hehe.
I just got the acceptance letter for RD a couple days ago (proof, I'm also sure a member of the developer committee could confirm this), but it's not set on my profile yet.
What I'd like to try with the box is getting an interface set up on it to use it as a car stereo with a touchscreen mounted in the dashboard. I've set up a similar system with an old netbook I have, but power requirements for the netbook raise some issues, mainly with draining my car battery. A lightweight ARM system could largely mitigate, if not completely solve this issue.
There are also space issues. I would like something that I can mount to the back of an LCD and have in a contained easy-to-remove unit, instead of having to run power and VGA cords through my dash.
I also would like to use it as a system for managing my door locks, with a USB keypad possibly stuck in the back of my truck bed, where I can enter a pin and have it lock/unlock my doors. I would also like to try to use a fingerprint scanner to unlock the doors.
Here's some pictures of what I have now:
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Picture 4 Don't worry, I've cleaned the wiring since then
Picture 5 XBMC with a modified Xeebo skin. This is the best media player I've found for the job. I was using Winamp at first, but XBMC has cool visualizations and whatnot.
Picture 6 Closer up, I've since filled in that top metal bar with a sharpie
Picture 7 Cleaner wiring, though still a bit messy. Note that my truck is old enough that I don't have a passenger airbag.
Not shown: I've got an acutator in the driver-side door, and a circuit that I built to accept TTL-level voltages and trigger it (essentially two relays making an H bridge, powered by two transistors that get set high by the TTL input. Both relays are ground open and charged closed, so I can set either one high and control the actuator)
Edit: Just to note, I had previously designed this to work with a RPi, but I found it a bit lackluster and not fast enough for what I wanted. Not to mention it inexplicably died one day.
Hello everybody!
First I need to say, that I'm from Hungary, not from US or UK, but I'm really interested in this, so I give it a try. (I can pay for shipping if required.)
Android is my favourite OS, so I would like to make CyanogenMod configuration for this device first. When it's ready I would like to play with linux too and developing ROM's with ubuntu. I have access to the xda build server, so it will be a good pair for the developing.
I wanted to buy an RPi a long time ago, but I didn't have enough money to buy it. If I get one of three CuBox now, i won't betray XDA. All my development for/with this device will be public here.
Thank you for your attention!
atis112
PS: Unbrickable? As Adam said it's a challenge.
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Very nice! Looking forward to see what the devs can do with this baby
For all you that didn't read the Portal Post/OP: It's for Recognized Devs only!
Well, if I had one of these devices I'd work on Linux integration into Android.
So what does this mean:
Most developers have a separate machine for doing particular work on their devices, or even any kind of developing in general aside from their Android devices. With Android devices starting to become more powerful than my laptop (and cheaper than when I bought my laptop), we SHOULD be able to harness Android's underbelly to do more things like developing and compiling directly on them, on the fly, and on the go.
Some people suggest using Ubuntu or some other Linux distro for ARM, but that isn't always the most user friendly thing on a smaller screen. Unlike Android which we already know is pretty user friendly.
Now there are some applications that exist that create development type environments for Android but why not just create a toolchain to compile Linux applications for the Android OS so that they're compatible with the Bionic C library?
So in it's most basic form, I'd be making use of this box to test, create and integrate Linux programs into binaries that Android users can use to their hearts content
As for the technicalities, I have a US shipping address, so that won't be a problem.
and @Adam: you can be sure I'll check to see if it's really unbrickable. I have a thing for bricks.. I'm curious to see how unbrickable their "unbrickable" is. If there's a method, I'll publish it :silly:
Please abstent to post no RD members. Thanks
Just a quick question: Will this contest be ending at midnight tonight (and if so, what timezone)?
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Just a quick question: Will this contest be ending at midnight tonight (and if so, what timezone)?
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That's the plan. However, I am tempted to suggest that we extend the contest by another week to allow for a greater number of responses. What are everyone's thoughts on the matter?
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That's the plan. However, I am tempted to suggest that we extend the contest by another week to allow for a greater number of responses. What are everyone's thoughts on the matter?
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What more could be done to get more entries? It already had a news article posted.
That being said, I'd find it unfair towards myself and the other entrants if it was extended, since we entered during the timeframe it was initially supposed to last for.
Below are a few (of many) ideas I have had for the CuBox
A small headless server for my command center... err.. I mean house.
central file server, VPN server, webserver
Not sure if there is a stable xbmc distro, and if not, work on that.
Update server for my desktop/mobile applications
More on the development side of things, I'd like to turn it into somewhat of an all-purpose toolkit for Android devices and write a corresponding mobile application using the AOA protocol. I'm thinking somewhat along the lines of Adam's rooting box meets mskip's Samsung/Nexus toolkits. Also, working on bringing CyanogenMOD to it would be another priority.
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What more could be done to get more entries? It already had a news article posted.
That being said, I'd find it unfair towards myself and the other entrants if it was extended, since we entered during the timeframe it was initially supposed to last for.
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You make a good point. The contest will close this evening, as originally planned.
Cheers.
So, the contest is over now, right? Know when the winners will be announced?
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So, the contest is over now, right? Know when the winners will be announced?
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Yes. The contest is over. I will announce the winners in the next few days, after Adam and I take a look at the entries together.
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Yes. The contest is over. I will announce the winners in the next few days, after Adam and I take a look at the entries together.
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I think I speak for all of us when I say thank you, Adam, and CuBox for this contest. Development toys/kits are always appreciated in contest form. We're all here because we love to tinker with things, understand how they work, and give that knowledge back to the community so others benefits from our experience.
Thanks again,
h8rift
Any news about this?
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Was this just abandoned or what?
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Was this just abandoned or what?
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When they get the time to go through this and decide who gets them, they'll post it here. And if they did abandon it, Will will let us know. Don't worry guys, just be patient.
Thanks to everyone who submitted.
I just wanted to thank everyone personally. Will is deciding who the winners are and hopefully will give you guys a response soon.
Some of your ideas are really interesting and I would like to see them come to life. I hope the winners will kickstart CuBox development and make the system open to everyone. I, also, hope no-one manages to brick the system otherwise we'll have to change our marketing!
I look forward to seeing the results and wish everyone good luck!
Regards,
Scott
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