Want to get started developing for these cool Android Stick Computers? Let us know your idea, and you are automatically entered for a chance to win one of three CuBox units, thanks to the kind generosity of Solid-Run!
Note: This contest is open to Recognized Developers who live in the US and UK only. Winners will be selected by myself and Elite Recognized Developer AdamOutler. More details will follow in the associated XDA Portal post, so be sure to check out www.xda-developers.com .
Good luck to all who enter!
Edit: Contest is now live! http://www.xda-developers.com/android/win-a-cubox-from-solid-run/
Aww.. I'm selecting? I was going to enter and offer to develop a way to brick one seeing as how their website says they're Unbrickable for developers.. Sounds like a challenge. Someone else do this for me
I would consider toying with XBMC, linux, android or whatever i can toy with on it and look at trying to do an AOSP/Cyanogenmod build on it if its possible. Its very low powered, but appears to have some kernel source available. Is it feasible to be done? no idea. Would have to take a shot at it to find out.
Thanks,
-h8rift
EDIT: Just re-read Adam's note...yeah i'm sure i'll brick it along the way and let you know how it goes, hehe.
I just got the acceptance letter for RD a couple days ago (proof, I'm also sure a member of the developer committee could confirm this), but it's not set on my profile yet.
What I'd like to try with the box is getting an interface set up on it to use it as a car stereo with a touchscreen mounted in the dashboard. I've set up a similar system with an old netbook I have, but power requirements for the netbook raise some issues, mainly with draining my car battery. A lightweight ARM system could largely mitigate, if not completely solve this issue.
There are also space issues. I would like something that I can mount to the back of an LCD and have in a contained easy-to-remove unit, instead of having to run power and VGA cords through my dash.
I also would like to use it as a system for managing my door locks, with a USB keypad possibly stuck in the back of my truck bed, where I can enter a pin and have it lock/unlock my doors. I would also like to try to use a fingerprint scanner to unlock the doors.
Here's some pictures of what I have now:
Picture 1
Picture 2
Picture 3
Picture 4 Don't worry, I've cleaned the wiring since then
Picture 5 XBMC with a modified Xeebo skin. This is the best media player I've found for the job. I was using Winamp at first, but XBMC has cool visualizations and whatnot.
Picture 6 Closer up, I've since filled in that top metal bar with a sharpie
Picture 7 Cleaner wiring, though still a bit messy. Note that my truck is old enough that I don't have a passenger airbag.
Not shown: I've got an acutator in the driver-side door, and a circuit that I built to accept TTL-level voltages and trigger it (essentially two relays making an H bridge, powered by two transistors that get set high by the TTL input. Both relays are ground open and charged closed, so I can set either one high and control the actuator)
Edit: Just to note, I had previously designed this to work with a RPi, but I found it a bit lackluster and not fast enough for what I wanted. Not to mention it inexplicably died one day.
Hello everybody!
First I need to say, that I'm from Hungary, not from US or UK, but I'm really interested in this, so I give it a try. (I can pay for shipping if required.)
Android is my favourite OS, so I would like to make CyanogenMod configuration for this device first. When it's ready I would like to play with linux too and developing ROM's with ubuntu. I have access to the xda build server, so it will be a good pair for the developing.
I wanted to buy an RPi a long time ago, but I didn't have enough money to buy it. If I get one of three CuBox now, i won't betray XDA. All my development for/with this device will be public here.
Thank you for your attention!
atis112
PS: Unbrickable? As Adam said it's a challenge.
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Very nice! Looking forward to see what the devs can do with this baby
For all you that didn't read the Portal Post/OP: It's for Recognized Devs only!
Well, if I had one of these devices I'd work on Linux integration into Android.
So what does this mean:
Most developers have a separate machine for doing particular work on their devices, or even any kind of developing in general aside from their Android devices. With Android devices starting to become more powerful than my laptop (and cheaper than when I bought my laptop), we SHOULD be able to harness Android's underbelly to do more things like developing and compiling directly on them, on the fly, and on the go.
Some people suggest using Ubuntu or some other Linux distro for ARM, but that isn't always the most user friendly thing on a smaller screen. Unlike Android which we already know is pretty user friendly.
Now there are some applications that exist that create development type environments for Android but why not just create a toolchain to compile Linux applications for the Android OS so that they're compatible with the Bionic C library?
So in it's most basic form, I'd be making use of this box to test, create and integrate Linux programs into binaries that Android users can use to their hearts content
As for the technicalities, I have a US shipping address, so that won't be a problem.
and @Adam: you can be sure I'll check to see if it's really unbrickable. I have a thing for bricks.. I'm curious to see how unbrickable their "unbrickable" is. If there's a method, I'll publish it :silly:
Please abstent to post no RD members. Thanks
Just a quick question: Will this contest be ending at midnight tonight (and if so, what timezone)?
netham45 said:
Just a quick question: Will this contest be ending at midnight tonight (and if so, what timezone)?
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That's the plan. However, I am tempted to suggest that we extend the contest by another week to allow for a greater number of responses. What are everyone's thoughts on the matter?
willverduzco said:
That's the plan. However, I am tempted to suggest that we extend the contest by another week to allow for a greater number of responses. What are everyone's thoughts on the matter?
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What more could be done to get more entries? It already had a news article posted.
That being said, I'd find it unfair towards myself and the other entrants if it was extended, since we entered during the timeframe it was initially supposed to last for.
Below are a few (of many) ideas I have had for the CuBox
A small headless server for my command center... err.. I mean house.
central file server, VPN server, webserver
Not sure if there is a stable xbmc distro, and if not, work on that.
Update server for my desktop/mobile applications
More on the development side of things, I'd like to turn it into somewhat of an all-purpose toolkit for Android devices and write a corresponding mobile application using the AOA protocol. I'm thinking somewhat along the lines of Adam's rooting box meets mskip's Samsung/Nexus toolkits. Also, working on bringing CyanogenMOD to it would be another priority.
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What more could be done to get more entries? It already had a news article posted.
That being said, I'd find it unfair towards myself and the other entrants if it was extended, since we entered during the timeframe it was initially supposed to last for.
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You make a good point. The contest will close this evening, as originally planned.
Cheers.
So, the contest is over now, right? Know when the winners will be announced?
netham45 said:
So, the contest is over now, right? Know when the winners will be announced?
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Yes. The contest is over. I will announce the winners in the next few days, after Adam and I take a look at the entries together.
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Yes. The contest is over. I will announce the winners in the next few days, after Adam and I take a look at the entries together.
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I think I speak for all of us when I say thank you, Adam, and CuBox for this contest. Development toys/kits are always appreciated in contest form. We're all here because we love to tinker with things, understand how they work, and give that knowledge back to the community so others benefits from our experience.
Thanks again,
h8rift
Any news about this?
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Was this just abandoned or what?
netham45 said:
Was this just abandoned or what?
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When they get the time to go through this and decide who gets them, they'll post it here. And if they did abandon it, Will will let us know. Don't worry guys, just be patient.
Thanks to everyone who submitted.
I just wanted to thank everyone personally. Will is deciding who the winners are and hopefully will give you guys a response soon.
Some of your ideas are really interesting and I would like to see them come to life. I hope the winners will kickstart CuBox development and make the system open to everyone. I, also, hope no-one manages to brick the system otherwise we'll have to change our marketing!
I look forward to seeing the results and wish everyone good luck!
Regards,
Scott
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This thread is for all Polaris owners who are (maybe) fed up of WM.
At this moment there even exists a port of Android ION for Windows Mobile
http://code.google.com/p/vogue-andr...+Filename+Summary+Uploaded+Size+DownloadCount
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The developers got the phone and the mobile networks working. This means we are at the moment able
- to call and answer the phone
- download apps from the appstore
- syncronize our contacts with google-
- send&receive sms, e-mails.
- Wifi partialy working
- GPS partialy working
But a lot of functions don't work. These are:
- no Bluetooth
- no Camera
- short battery life // imporve with lastest kernel
There are developers working on fixing these problems.
DEVELOPERS ARE:
dzo
donation link: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=M%2eJ%2eJohnson%40massey%2eac%2enz&lc=GB&item_name=Vogue%20Android%20Donation¤cy_code=USD&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted
UPDATE:
02.09.2009: MAking some things clear:
bally3 said:
Let me make this clear so there are no confusions about these donations:
We are, and have been collecting for the two main developers on this project so that they could and can purchase a Polaris to help us complete our quest for a fully working kernel.
We approached vilord and asked him if he would help us if we sent him a phone to which he agreed so we raised enough for him to purchase one.
Because we were still getting donations after we had raised the amount for vilords Polaris, "I" decided to continue and see if we could raise enough to send one to dzo as well (lets face it he deserves it) and asked him if he would be interested. I was pleasantly suprised when dzo said yes and also the fact that he likes the look of the the pola200 and would probably switch to it as CDMA is being phased out where he is. I dont have to spell out what having dzo as a Polaris user could mean to us hence my renewed pledges for donations.
In the end, these donations are a means to self-interest for all of us and if the dev benefits from the device, all the better.
Anyone is free to make a donation to a dev whenever they wish. The reason i ask users not to make pledged for donations for finishing projects is that to me sounds disrespectful to the devs - no matter of the pledgers intention - who do this for the community and never for financial gain.
Please do not reply to this post, it was for making intentions clear and not to start a topic of conversation.
thank you
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29.07.2009: Other developers now also develop for our Polaris
Quote Bally3:
"We will consider sending a second Polaris to one of the other active developers if it should help the development process and if enough donations are received to purchase one. Please do not post pledges of donations to this thread, it is better to post what you have donated so that there is a record of what has been donated rather than pledge a donation that may not be made honoured later, pledges of donations will not help the development process - Thank you for your understanding".
29.07.2009: Vilord has received the Polaris
13.07.2009: We (Bally3) found a developer who is willing to port Android on our Polaris
bally3 said:
I've cleared it with Vilord and he's happy to make the purchase.
I've asked vilord to let me know who donates and how much, if we dont make the target before the phone is sold or the auction finishes, then he will look for another one for around the same price.
Can everyone make their donations as soon as possible please.
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I've asked vilord to let me know who donates and how much. The only problem is that he has only the e-mail adresses from the people who donated.
I don't want to publish the e-mail adresses.
13.07.2009
I'm proud to say that at the moment YOU donated 235$ ! I'm very happy to be part of such a great community. Bally3 and me want to say THANK YOU.
Now vilord is looking for a Polaris on ebay.
I will post any updates here.
another post reserved to list the huge numbers of donatings ;-)
Why not just buy a G1 if your fed up of winmo ....?
this is a very stupid question...but i will explain it to you!
Maybe i started this thread because I own a htc polaris which can run ANDROID
Second reason could be that a new G1 costs about 300€ and i will donate only 15$!
Maybe there a a few reasons mor but i think it is enough....please if you DON'T like the idea you don't have to post here.
But i'm open for any suggestions.
I'm not able to change my phone until next year so if we could get a better version of android working for the polaris that would be excellent. I'd be willing to donate $15
I have Cruise / Polaris ; I Love it .. that's why I bought a second one, for my father.
I enjoy GPS with iGO8, but I'm fed up with WM 6
Right now I use Adroid 1.5 ION to call & browse the web .... and WM for the GPS ; if I buy a G1, exit iGO8 and/or GPS.
Morever, my phone cell operator slates the G1 (Dream) wich isn't so pretty as G2 (Magic) ; if I have to buy another phone, it should be G2 (Magic) or G3 (Hero) ... but it's the other phone cell supplier and costs too much.
So, 30 $ for a bootable Adroid on my phone and the one of my father, with wifi, camera, MMS & GPS fonctionnal, I buy immediately !!
Regards.
add 15 bucks from me!
I'd definitely pay $15 for this.
Count me in for another $15 definately for a full working version, pls PM me when u need the cash! = ready
This is a great idea! Count me in for 25 USD.
The notion of a bounty is good. But even if we raise lets say $500 it still does not guarantee a working Android on the Polaris. The devs are already working as hard as they can and are probably spending hours after hours on this (albeit not on the Polaris). And still even the other models lack WiFi, GPS, Camera etc...
I just don't see any developers come running and manageing this just because we raise some money. A developer does these things to satisfy personal curiosity, as a personal challenge to better his skills or to gain "kudos" in the scene.
And except for a big challenge there is simply not much gain for a developer to take on such a large task. To do what you ask even a skilled developer must lay down 100's of hours.
But hey, I'm happy to support the cause with say $15 if you think it will make any difference.
(In order for this to work someone that both we and the devs trust, like a forum moderator, must create a paypal account that we can send money to. Also if this never happens the money goes back to the donator. It's something different to say you are willing to donate, and actually pay the money. This way the developer knows what he's getting.)
As a side note we could also try rentacoder.com or similar services. If you specify exactly what you need then developers from all around the world can bid on the job or we can specify a max bid.
I also would like to have a working version for my HTC Touch Cruise.
I will donate $ 20 USD.
20$ more from me if you have a fully-fledged working Android port for Polaris.
Add me to the list.
count me in
$20 from me also
$20 for a fully working android from me
and like someone else said. we need actual money ready and waiting somewhere. just saying we will give something is not enough.
if a trusted person can make a paypal account and start picking up donations we can bring ppl in.
we can even give starter cash to the developer for first bigger brakethrough. i have 1 guy in mind that would probably love to do something like this and i doubt this would be too difficult for him but there wouldnt be much of a gain for him unless we can pay him.
we'll see how things go.
Didnt we need to start with finding people who will do this port?
This is like a virtual money collection which does not make any sense,
as there are no people doing this port job....
nemiers said:
Didnt we need to start with finding people who will do this port?
This is like a virtual money collection which does not make any sense,
as there are no people doing this port job....
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And what it is the time line?
p.s. sorry I quoted this by mistake
bbezja1 said:
and like someone else said. we need actual money ready and waiting somewhere. just saying we will give something is not enough.
if a trusted person can make a paypal account and start picking up donations we can bring ppl in.
we can even give starter cash to the developer for first bigger brakethrough. i have 1 guy in mind that would probably love to do something like this and i doubt this would be too difficult for him but there wouldnt be much of a gain for him unless we can pay him.
we'll see how things go.
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OK that seems to be the only possibility...I'm thinking also of an mod or a person with over 1000 posts ;-)
I'm staying in contact with bally3.... when we found someone everybody can decide if he wants to give the money to this person!
I was interested in how much money we can collect and it seems we are a really GREAT community. Thanks to all people
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OK that seems to be the only possibility...I'm thinking also of an mod or a person with over 1000 posts ;-)
I'm staying in contact with bally3.... when we found someone everybody can decide if he wants to give the money to this person!
I was interested in how much money we can collect and it seems we are a really GREAT community. Thanks to all people
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I'll second that w04g005, I'm really impressed how fast we raised the amount, so a big THANK YOU to all and WELL DONE folks!
To answer some of the questions here, the reason for doing it this way is that we need a dev with a Polaris in his hand so that he can make the changes needed to make things work on our device.
GPS, camera and even bluetooth are either already working on the other devices or are already in progress but it WI-LL take a dev with one of our devices in their actual hands to make these changes. As far as I know (and please correct me if I'm wrong) there are are no Polaris-specific drivers that need to be written, just changes to code to make existing ones work on the Polaris.
But I'll re-iterate what I've said before, please be under no illusions of promises, guarantees or timelines. The only unspoken guarantee we have is that devs will do to the best of their abilities to help us. As pananza pointed out devs dont do this for money, but they do need a device to speed up the development.
I've made a proposal in the main thread, please have a read and post your comments. As I've said before, I'm open to all suggestions.
But as an added tasty selling point: How great is it that they're already discussing the best way of making an Android rom already? That could quite easily be us soon
I will throw $25 U.S. at this.
Dear XDA: I think the time has come for you to step out of the shadows. I was at Barnes and Noble the other day and started looking for a magazine in their sizable magazine section. I was frustrated when i went to look for a magazine about android -anything- and found zero mags. However, i did happen to find 12 magazines covering apple. Soo i searched online and to my dismay have only found one magazine that covers android and only apps. Please save all of us who love android and need something to read on the toilet. I promise you i will be the first to subscribe. There is a desert wasteland when it comes to android magazines and you could be our oasis. Seems like now could be the opportune time.
(sorry for the dramatics...just thought it would be fun to post my thoughts about this...)
A magazine on Android ? hmmm...
It's a good idea. There's inough content out there right now to fill a year's worth of monthly editions. I'd subscribe (as long as it wasn't priced unreasonably), and it could open way more people to Android rooting/flashing/modding...
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+1 thats whats missing actually. go for it XDA. u properly backed up anyway, so ...
Definitely a good idea. The democracy has always overthrowed the dictatorship. That's just the way the world goes.
If nothing else, and I hate to say it, think of the revenues.
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an XDA-MAg it's a good idea, specially if my work it's on the front page....hehehe .
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Sounds cool. But sounds dangerous for xda also. Just thinking that people who aren't supposed to root or mod their phones might pick up a magazine andtry, then fail, maybe even brick their phones, and then they try sue xda. All i'm trying to say is I think it's best for people who don't have the mindset for modding or whatnot, to not be introduced to it or even tempted.
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Sounds cool. But sounds dangerous for xda also. Just thinking that people who aren't supposed to root or mod there phones might pick up a magazine and try, then fail, maybe even brick their phones, and then they try sue xda. All i'm trying to say is I think it's best for people who don't have the mindset for modding or whatnot, to not be introduced to it or even tempted.
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A Warning on any article helps, they cannot get sued just because someone brick their phone, it wont be XDA fault.
Yeah but some narrow-minded twit is bound to try and go after xda at some point anyways, if it hasn't happened already. And there's always an opportunistic lawyer to accomodate (apologies to any members who happen to be lawyers lol). That's why there are disclaimers at the top of almost every thread. At least magazine revenue would help pay the legal defense fees.
This site has gotten so big since Android got hot, there's a constant influx of people who just bought their first smartphone and already know they want it rooted with CM7 and A2SD, but have no idea how to make it happen. If properly implemented, the mag could be a roadmap to get them started, and teach them some forum etiquitte (search, read, search, read, find correct forum to ask in) before they end up neck deep in technical terms they've never heard before, and a device that no longer boots. Beats following some half-ass youtube video with a megaupload link and then having a first post on xda titled 'help i bricked my...'
Edit: damn you, skepticalguy, you stole my spot ;-p
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yes,agree............
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A Warning on any article helps, they cannot get sued just because someone brick their phone, it wont be XDA fault.
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A warning/disclaimer won't be a magical 'no lawsuit' pass for anyone. If enough people face issues and ends up bricking their devices, the magazine will get sued. Whether the lawsuit succeeds or not is up in the air, but I doubt it's 100% guaranteed to fail and, more likely than not, retailers selling the magazine will then ask themselves if they should continue stocking it or not.
And, of course, we're just talking about lawsuits from regular folks. Imagine if Google (or any number of other corporations involved in profiting from Android) gets a hold of the news that there's a magazine out there advising the general population on hacking the OS. Somehow, I think this is going to be another one of those times when 'Do No Evil' no longer applies.
If XDA decides to gets its own magazine, it should do what others have done: Give advice to look up how to do it, but do not offer any direct advice. If the people reading the magazine decides to continue doing it, then they only have whatever advice source they looked up to blame if something screws up. Of course, this still doesn't give the 'No Lawsuits' pass, but it'll probably be a much stronger case for the magazine.
All of this could just be my pessimism speaking, so no one has to feel that what I said will be unalterable reality. Still, it seems like an awful lot of risk for an attempt to get into a market that is supposedly not doing so well. I mean, there's nothing wrong with being online-exclusive. I doubt Engadget, with its 5+ million visitors, is complaining.
True true. The xda portal is pretty much like engadget itself. And engadget gets some of its news from xda also. Guess the problem is, the amount of people that are interested in hacking and modding, which is a relatively small amount. And well, as said before, we don't want to be inviting people who aren't supposed to be hacking or modding, else we get more threads saying how they bricked their phones. So maybe it's best to just stay as it is now.
^ Yes, you are right about that, but perhaps it's not as matter of exposure.
Look at the iPhone. Jailbreaking is much more widespread than Android rooting, but last I heard, it was still only about 2-4% of the entire iPhone userbase that was doing it. As others mentioned, there are several iPhone/Apple magazines too.
I think hacking has always been the domain of a small number of folks who probably knows the method to find out how to do such things by themselves anyway. The overwhelming majority probably doesn't want to hack and additional exposure by magazines to them might increase the hacking community by a small amount, but probably not any very significantly.
Rooting/jailbreaking/custom ROMS/etc will probably continue to be the domain of folks like those who frequent XDA and it's unlikely that it'll ever be as popular as, say, downloading MP3s until it becomes a super easy/risk-free task that has an undeniable benefit to the common man.
But frankly, I don't see a need to make it as common as downloading MP3s anyway. XDA is freely available to anyone who wants to know and, for those who don't want to know, let them continue using a stock Samsung Nexus S.
Yes... xda is the way forward! It is improving alot!!!!!!!!!
Now we have xda tv, i cant wait to see whats next!
Also @OP, why don't you take your phone to the toilet LOL You will have your all in one phone/magazine/browser
Jokes!
LMAO I actually just read the last few posts on the crapper!! Get out of my head!
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LMAO I actually just read the last few posts on the crapper!! Get out of my head!
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ahahahh
Hello friends at XDA, I haven’t forgot about you. In fact, I want to invite three of you guys for free to our very own conference...SAMSUNG DEVELOPER CONFERENCE!” Svetius is in charge of selecting the three that will attend.
“The Journey Has Already Begun” – Converging TV, tablet computers, and mobile phones to create a “take anywhere” digital world for customers.
Time: Tuesday, November 8 8:00AM-8:00PM
Location: Intercontinental Hotel
Event Link: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=160009317422522
More big announcements to come
Follow me on Twitter: @SamsungJohn
Special thanks to: Captainkrtek & Egzthunder
Hey Welcome Back John
you might want to expand a bit more on the Location, rather than just mentioning the hotel name
there are too many Intercontinental Hotel around the world
I want to come! lol
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Thanks man
never mind found it, had to go into facebook to be able to click the link
Intercontinental Hotel in · San Francisco, California
i'd love to go, but it's too far for me, unless the plane ticket is included
anyways, so back in topic, what are the big news!
i'm really exited
Galaxy Notes release?
Nexus Prime release?
Galaxy S2 Hercules release?
Galaxy Player release?
there are so many upcoming products that it'll be hard to guess which one or perhaps all of them at once? lol
Yea, i should have included that.
Also, if you haven't already seen this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM9RO-GAKjE&feature=player_embedded
yeah it's been up for like 3 days already in this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289656
for anyone just arriving to the conversation, we are talking about the nexus prime teaser video
Welcome back John!
After months of exchanges in private chats, I'm happy you can now speak real in forums directly
And... about the event.. indeed the teaser is exciting ^^
Please allow me to go. I would be able to learn the most from this presentation and I would be able to provide valuable feedback. I would ensure that I relay as much as possible to members of this site as well.
It is important that I attend this conference as I have a lot of time invested in Samsung research and development. This conference has potential to tie up a lot of loose ends, answer my current questions and springboard me onto other open source projects.
From what I have seen, something big would be announced. With my background in hardware and software, I feel I could help others understand more then most. If someone less knowledgeable were sent, the finer points may be lost in the sauce.
A lot of top brass from Samsung will be there... engineers and developers which I may never have a chance to meet again. These people have information which I need, like Exynos processor technologies and OMAP signal descriptions. If they do not have the information, these are the people who would know where to find it. When I get this info, XDA wins with documentation and new recovery/hacking techniques... I've already uncovered a lot with UBM, UART Root and others... All of this has taken months to research. Can you imagine my joy if I had a chance to sit down with a Samsung engineer and get easy answers?
Please pick me to go out to this conference. I've hacked more Samsung devices then most people on this site. I've published the knowledge I've gained about my projects on this site. If you send me, you can be sure that I will relay any knowledge gained to this site.
It would be an honor to be selected for this and I feel I could learn a lot.
Welcome (back) John. Glad to see you here again after our private chats
I would of course also hope to be one of those three selected (due to being a vocal Samsung supporter since the Omnia and most of my developments being focused on Samsung hardware for years now) - but I guess that goes for pretty much everyone
P.S. I do have an XDA t-shirt I could wear
IMO i'll vote for azrienoch to go, and send us a live feed of the show, there's no one better for the job
Hey, I love azrienoch as much as the next person, though arguably less than SassiBoB does, but if the three people picked by Svetius aren't actually developers ...
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Hey, I love azrienoch as much as the next person, though arguably less than SassiBoB does, but if the three people picked by Svetius aren't actually developers ...
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Defeats the point. We agree.
Thanks Chainfire, please do stay in touch. As for me, I'm going to check out some of the XDA Samsung forums and see what's been going on.
I'd love to go just for the heck of it to see what it's all about.
So if it's not an exclusive for developers only, I wouldn't mind getting picked! I can definitely drop by CA even though I'm far up north
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I'd love to go just for the heck of it to see what it's all about.
So if it's not an exclusive for developers only, I wouldn't mind getting picked! I can definitely drop by CA even though I'm far up north
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ahemm... that was their message, it's only for developers
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ahemm... that was their message, it's only for developers
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Yeah I know it's for developers, hence why i asked if it was exclusively for developers, like, literally (e.g., requires some sort of proof of a being a 'developer' to enter the conference). If it is, no problem. Doesn't hurt to ask.
Cyanogen
Anyone know if Steve Kondik (Cyanogen) is going to be at the show?
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is there a hint or hidden message having the document date side ways?
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As I would really like to know a "when" but, I was really just wondering if there has been any news on the DFT project of a Windows Mobile loader for Windows Phone 7.
It was tweeted about here..
https://twitter.com/#!/CotullaCode/status/169865585591721985
We head a nice buzz about it on about 2 months ago with a video but, now nothing and has anyone heard any news on it ?
I have searched and googled the "heck" out of it with nothing but old news...
This is NOT looking for a ETA (that would be breaking XDA rules) I am just wondering if there has been progress or news on it.
Thanks !
I'm not aware of any. That's a bit surprising, considering that it looked pretty polished int he preview videos. It would be nice if the DFT forum weren't so inaccessible to most people who frequent XDA-Devs; there's a number of other forums as well and it's too bad that the hacking and homebrew community ineitably ends up fragmented as a result.
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I'm not aware of any. That's a bit surprising, considering that it looked pretty polished int he preview videos. It would be nice if the DFT forum weren't so inaccessible to most people who frequent XDA-Devs; there's a number of other forums as well and it's too bad that the hacking and homebrew community ineitably ends up fragmented as a result.
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Exactly why I posted this. The Video looked like it was almost ready, there was hype about it and that was it. That was about 2 months ago.
And your so true about the fragmentation, it's too bad.
Thanks for your reply !
I guess no one has heard anything about this project ? Man, I have about 3-4 apps (nothing too fancy) that would love to run again and at least see if it was as good as I remember.
This sounded like a cool project..
It's been a while and I would really like this. My old Touch Pro's VGA display is too small to use my old 6.1/5 apps...
So, what they heck, anyone have a update on this ?
There has been a fair amount of silence of several projects lately, I suspect they are just busy.
Although in saying that, we're still waiting on WM6 ROM for the Alpine! that had a video published several years ago sooo.....
My guess is that development has been poured in to sorting out HSPL for various devices and similar tasks, after all, that is a much more useful project for a lot more individuals.
If you want my advice, just forget about it, that way, if and when its done then you can be over the moon again
rather then spend the next 6 months being annoyed about it all!
Cotulla posted some news on his twitter account lately
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There has been a fair amount of silence of several projects lately, I suspect they are just busy.
Although in saying that, we're still waiting on WM6 ROM for the Alpine! that had a video published several years ago sooo.....
My guess is that development has been poured in to sorting out HSPL for various devices and similar tasks, after all, that is a much more useful project for a lot more individuals.
If you want my advice, just forget about it, that way, if and when its done then you can be over the moon again
rather then spend the next 6 months being annoyed about it all!
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I hear ya, I was just trying to see if there was anything new. Not that I would use it every day but, There are somethings I would use.
and I checked his twitter feed...
Ah, a new image....I guess they got network support now, Nice ! Maybe we are getting closer to a beta or a release !!!
https://twitter.com/CotullaCode/status/210394783787663361/photo/1
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I hear ya, I was just trying to see if there was anything new. Not that I would use it every day but, There are somethings I would use.
and I checked his twitter feed...
Ah, a new image....I guess they got network support now, Nice ! Maybe we are getting closer to a beta or a release !!!
https://twitter.com/CotullaCode/status/210394783787663361/photo/1
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Maybe they are busy doing away with those God awful 1 2 3 buttons at the bottom of the screen; God I hope so
I am eagerly waiting for this release from DFT. I read somewhere that it uses something called hTC Gold to emulate. I really hope that it works on a Samsung Focus.
"HTC Gold" is HTC's internal name for the model of phone commonly known as the "HTC 7 Pro" (the CDMA variant, commonly called "HTC Arrive", is known as the "HTC Gold_C"). The phone you see in the picture above is an HTC Gold model.
As for whether it will work on a Focus, I can't be certain of that but I would guess that yes, it probably can. It depends on how much they're relying on the hardware of the phone, vs. just virtualizing all of that, though. For example, the 7 Pro (Gold) has a hardware keybaord, as you can see. The Focus does not, so if for some reason the hardware keyboard is required, that won't work. However, in most ways, all gen1 and even gen2 Windows phones are very similar.
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"HTC Gold" is HTC's internal name for the model of phone commonly known as the "HTC 7 Pro" (the CDMA variant, commonly called "HTC Arrive", is known as the "HTC Gold_C"). The phone you see in the picture above is an HTC Gold model.
As for whether it will work on a Focus, I can't be certain of that but I would guess that yes, it probably can. It depends on how much they're relying on the hardware of the phone, vs. just virtualizing all of that, though. For example, the 7 Pro (Gold) has a hardware keybaord, as you can see. The Focus does not, so if for some reason the hardware keyboard is required, that won't work. However, in most ways, all gen1 and even gen2 Windows phones are very similar.
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Oh ok. Thanks for clearing that out. Talking about Windows Phone, today is a huge day for our beloved platform. Sorry to be off topic, but I just could not resist it.
Has anyone seen any new news on this ?
According to his Twitter page, there was some updates, It's now running WM 6.5 (instead of 6.1), wonder how close we are to a release...
Does anyone know if there is any news on this?
Best regards
I guess we'll know when cotulla wants us to know...I just hope it doesn't get dropped... It would be so useful!
Desperately waiting for DFT WML?
I'm looking forward to getting this Windows mobile loader too, as I'd like to keep running my brave old. ListPro. App for which I haven't found any decent and valid substitute yet.
Could DFT tell us what the real status is?
Don't hold your breath, this has been dead for ages unless anyone has any new news?
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Hello I am new in the forum and I would like to know can I install windows 7 or 8 in Samsung Note 10.1
PLEASE HELP
You will be able to install Windows 8 on a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 -- when you see a pig fly. So, keep your eyes peeled. And, let us know when you see it!
If you wanted windows why didn't you wait for the windows tablets?
At this time you can't install windows(any version except maybe 95) on an Android tablet. You need drivers that we just don't have...
Windows 8 is a closed source operating system thus it will be very hard to get it working as we do not have the drivers
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Hello I am new in the forum and I would like to know can I install windows 7 or 8 in Samsung Note 10.1
PLEASE HELP
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Yes apply for MS licence $175000 per unit .
Though i can let you have MS licence for $800 no questions asked .
jje
you can access your desktop/laptop windows installation through a remote desktop app like splashtop remote desktop, which works pretty well. but yeah, no way to install windows directly on the tablet.
Remote desktops are very slugish though. Cant play a movie through it with out it being choppy. To you devs? Is there a remote desktop app using udp protocol? Or a mixture of udp and tcp like dns can? I think it may be the windowing that is making it choppy
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Why did you buy the note of you want windows? Asus has a windows 8 tab around the notes price I think called the vivo?
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9 windows
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This is your lucky day fella, I've ported windows 9 for you.
Wow, all of you have managed to act like the arse end of an ass. Not every person is tech savy. I seem to read so many threads where some innocent guy asks a question and 10 or 12 people just cant resist the urge to get in a dig. I wonder if you realize your not making the person who asked the question seem silly but rather making yourselves look like adolescent dorks with a nerdon. Sometimes it's ok to let a silly question go by you know.
Further more just what is so silly about his question in the first place. It is more than possible to port windows 8 RT to any device though it would be very much less than legal however any research done by windows will come across this and the 1000 threads like it and perhaps eventually lead microsoft into allowing the porting to certain devices if there were enough demand. Yes thats rather unlikely but it could happen though nothing ever happens without there being a question asked first. And what is wrong with wanting more as well. I like my tablet very much however I certainly wouldn't mind being able to duel boot windows. Yes there are some units that do this if one is interested but this is the device that we have chosen to purchase and by being here are we all not trying to make it better? So who could deny that duel booting would not make it better. Can it be done atm, no. Will it be done in the future? Probably not on this machine. Should people who are interested in such things ask if its possible? Absolutely. Without demand there will be no supply.
pc= windows. tablet: android. enough said, end of story!
as i wouldnt like a pc with android, the same goes to tablet with windows.
Without being a jerk like others, of course no, some simple reasons no dvd drive, usb drive, and really no way to port over a completely new os that is kept very private. And doing this would be a risk to any developer that tries.
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Without being a jerk like others, of course no, some simple reasons no dvd drive, usb drive, and really no way to port over a completely new os that is kept very private. And doing this would be a risk to any developer that tries.
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Though they have a usb adapter and you can use a usb optical drive if they made drivers for this? If they havnt already
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I find it quite hilarious, this thread is still going on. LMAO.
Slow day
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Wow, all of you have managed to act like the arse end of an ass. Not every person is tech savy. I seem to read so many threads where some innocent guy asks a question and 10 or 12 people just cant resist the urge to get in a dig. I wonder if you realize your not making the person who asked the question seem silly but rather making yourselves look like adolescent dorks with a nerdon. Sometimes it's ok to let a silly question go by you know.
Further more just what is so silly about his question in the first place. It is more than possible to port windows 8 RT to any device though it would be very much less than legal however any research done by windows will come across this and the 1000 threads like it and perhaps eventually lead microsoft into allowing the porting to certain devices if there were enough demand. Yes thats rather unlikely but it could happen though nothing ever happens without there being a question asked first. And what is wrong with wanting more as well. I like my tablet very much however I certainly wouldn't mind being able to duel boot windows. Yes there are some units that do this if one is interested but this is the device that we have chosen to purchase and by being here are we all not trying to make it better? So who could deny that duel booting would not make it better. Can it be done atm, no. Will it be done in the future? Probably not on this machine. Should people who are interested in such things ask if its possible? Absolutely. Without demand there will be no supply.
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Um, I asked a legit question and gave him an alternative so you can hop down off your high and mighty pedestal now.
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I'm with you on these people behaving like idiots. Whilst there appears to be little chance of Windows on a Samsung Exynos4 device, it is not impossible to port Windows between platforms. See work done by Dark Forces Team (DFT) with Windows Phone 7 and a very limited Windows 8 on the HTC phones. Unfortunately there are enough easier targets that not many people will focus on such a hard task.
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This is your lucky day fella, I've ported windows 9 for you.
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TOO FUNNY! :good:
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I'm with you on these people behaving like idiots. Whilst there appears to be little chance of Windows on a Samsung Exynos4 device, it is not impossible to port Windows between platforms. See work done by Dark Forces Team (DFT) with Windows Phone 7 and a very limited Windows 8 on the HTC phones. Unfortunately there are enough easier targets that not many people will focus on such a hard task.
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Or they could return/sell it and get a windows tab which is 800x easier
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230826
There ya go, windows on a tab for same price as note
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Um, I asked a legit question and gave him an alternative so you can hop down off your high and mighty pedestal now.
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Though I found your post to be less distasteful than some I think you must feel guilt as you found it necessary to try to defend jackass like behavior. Gee I apologize. Not. There is no need to treat people with anything less than the dignity they deserve, unless your a child who hasn't yet learned to treat others as you would like to be treated. If you dont find a problem in the general attitude in this thread then im sorry to say you need a life lesson.
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Why not?
conan1600 said:
Wow, all of you have managed to act like the arse end of an ass. Not every person is tech savy. I seem to read so many threads where some innocent guy asks a question and 10 or 12 people just cant resist the urge to get in a dig. I wonder if you realize your not making the person who asked the question seem silly but rather making yourselves look like adolescent dorks with a nerdon. Sometimes it's ok to let a silly question go by you know.
Further more just what is so silly about his question in the first place. It is more than possible to port windows 8 RT to any device though it would be very much less than legal however any research done by windows will come across this and the 1000 threads like it and perhaps eventually lead microsoft into allowing the porting to certain devices if there were enough demand. Yes thats rather unlikely but it could happen though nothing ever happens without there being a question asked first. And what is wrong with wanting more as well. I like my tablet very much however I certainly wouldn't mind being able to duel boot windows. Yes there are some units that do this if one is interested but this is the device that we have chosen to purchase and by being here are we all not trying to make it better? So who could deny that duel booting would not make it better. Can it be done atm, no. Will it be done in the future? Probably not on this machine. Should people who are interested in such things ask if its possible? Absolutely. Without demand there will be no supply.
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I was looking into this windows 8 on my galaxy note as well. Just because I don't have much faith in the PC world anymore and I always come to this site for the correct answers to my thoughts.
Keep seeing YouTube videos of people doing it on all sorts of tabs.
But YouTube is full of prank videos mainly.
I'm not A+ certified but I figure most aren't so I don't understand all the bad comments. Pretty sure this forum was founded for questions like this. It's not a dumb question to ask.
But trolls will be trolls I guess ....