What will be the next QWERTY slider for you? Rumors welcome... - T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide

Any thoughts on your next? My wife is due to upgrade her G2 in August and I'm due next August. We are both die-hard QWERTY fans. Thoughts for the future? Dreams/rumors welcome...
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rorytmeadows said:
Any thoughts on your next? My wife is due to upgrade her G2 in August and I'm due next August. We are both die-hard QWERTY fans. Thoughts for the future? Dreams/rumors welcome...
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I honestly really like this phone. It's fast, the screen is fine, the stock ROM isn't terrible, and there's hardware buttons. The screen honestly could have been a bit bigger, but it's not unpleasant to use at all. The camera is great as well.
I just wish there'd be a new phone that's 4"+ with a keyboard. A 5-row keyboard would be great.

Limewirelord said:
I honestly really like this phone. It's fast, the screen is fine, the stock ROM isn't terrible, and there's hardware buttons. The screen honestly could have been a bit bigger, but it's not unpleasant to use at all. The camera is great as well.
I just wish there'd be a new phone that's 4"+ with a keyboard. A 5-row keyboard would be great.
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Limewirelord said:
I honestly really like this phone. It's fast, the screen is fine, the stock ROM isn't terrible, and there's hardware buttons. The screen honestly could have been a bit bigger, but it's not unpleasant to use at all. The camera is great as well.
I just wish there'd be a new phone that's 4"+ with a keyboard. A 5-row keyboard would be great.
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Well yes, but what about in the future?
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ok, here is sort a dream: if Samsung would put the Sidekick 4G keyboard on the Galaxy S III! i would buy that SO fast! otherwise i just gotta wait and see what comes out i guess, there is nothing that i know of yet.
Tmobile did say the Sidekick line would continue, and if they could keep the great keyboard, AND bring up the other specs closer to a high-end device, i would get that.

I'm not a fan of QWERTY's honestly.
I only got this phone because it was a free upgrade from my MyTouch 4g which I got via a free upgrade from my G2
I only accepted the upgrade because its truly an upgrade in power specs. I haven't used the keyboard for more than 100 words in its entirety. So I will be moving to the all hailed GSIII IF it is all it is cracked to be. As I like giant screens with thin bodies. Maybe a HTC One XL because I am loving this premadonna sense right now its frickkng awesome.
Typed by ---- oh wait! I'm schizophrenic!

My hope would be for HTC to reconsider their decision and make another device with a hardware keyboard, something in the quad-core arena.
Keep the tv-out so the form factor can be kept small, and the smaller screen is off-set by plugging into a bigger one mostly anywhere.
I get the impression that hardware keyboard devices are a dying breed, and if they die out completely then so does my participation in the smart-phone arena.
I don't like cell phones, don't use the phone function of this one, and without a hardware keyboard the frustration level of using a pocket coputer like this is off the charts for me.
As convenient as this is for my job, I can be served by a transformer or something similar fine, and I have a bluetooth keyboard but it's not as worthwhile as an attached keyboard.
Samsung is my hope for the future as long as HTC intends to give us the finger...
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Droid 4, when we can start using it on gsm carriers. I think of all the qwerty phones, it's the best, because of its evolution and improvements over the generations.

gtmaster303 said:
Droid 4, when we can start using it on gsm carriers. I think of all the qwerty phones, it's the best, because of its evolution and improvements over the generations.
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The Droid line is marketed by Verizon, so we'll never see any official Droid phones off of CDMA networks.

Limewirelord said:
The Droid line is marketed by Verizon, so we'll never see any official Droid phones off of CDMA networks.
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I believe they're going to release a radio update that allows it to be used on gsm carriers.
Or I'm sure some xda member will figure out how to make the phone work on other networks.
Whatever the case may be, this will be much further down the road when everyone has moved on from this phone and if no other qwertys have come out since then

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I believe they're going to release a radio update that allows it to be used on gsm carriers.
Or I'm sure some xda member will figure out how to make the phone work on other networks.
Whatever the case may be, this will be much further down the road when everyone has moved on from this phone and if no other qwertys have come out since then
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Lmfao. Ok its time for Some Tech Talk. Tmo and At&t both use GSM towers. Sprint and verizon use CDMA. With GSM you need a SIM Card. With CDMA there is no SIM Card. Long story short it has zero to do with Radio Flashing. I dont care what radio you flash unless verizon moves to GSM which will never happen no verizon droid phone will work with Tmo or At&t. Even if you find an unlocked verizon phone you still cant use it on a GSM Network. The hardware wont allow it. No amount of Software hacking will get you there either. It is beyond impossible.

Half right. There is such a thing as a world phone...both CDMA and GSM.
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Ima keep this phone until a WORTHY succesor is out like quadcore, hd display, good keyboard, etc
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rorytmeadows said:
Half right. There is such a thing as a world phone...both CDMA and GSM.
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Isn't the Doubleshot a world phone? I thought it was....
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20117521-85/smartphones-for-world-travelers-roundup/
After reading about world phones, this article seems to refer to quad band gsm phones. Our phone doesn't have CDMA... I guess I knew that though.

rorytmeadows said:
Half right. There is such a thing as a world phone...both CDMA and GSM.
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You only need a GSM Phone to be considered a world phone. I think 2 countries including the US use CDMA the rest use GSM. So basically yes the DS is a world phone.

ReActiveDisorder said:
Lmfao. Ok its time for Some Tech Talk. Tmo and At&t both use GSM towers. Sprint and verizon use CDMA. With GSM you need a SIM Card. With CDMA there is no SIM Card. Long story short it has zero to do with Radio Flashing. I dont care what radio you flash unless verizon moves to GSM which will never happen no verizon droid phone will work with Tmo or At&t. Even if you find an unlocked verizon phone you still cant use it on a GSM Network. The hardware wont allow it. No amount of Software hacking will get you there either. It is beyond impossible.
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'sigh' even though I'm sick to the point of being bed bound, I still researched this for you. Do your home work before posting. Also, I know the difference between gsm and cdma. After over 400 posts on this site, it's remarkable how little credit you give me. But back to the point, there are cdma phones out there that have Sim slots, also known as world phones. It does depend on the hardware however. So a Sim slot =/= unlocked for domestic gsm use. Actually it never means that, because I've never come across a world phone that's already unlocked for domestic gsm. Usually you have to flash a new baseband to enable the radio to work properly (assuming the radio has the capability to run on your bands).
The thread is brewing as we speak. Maybe you guys would like to stir the pot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25127887

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'sigh' even though I'm sick to the point of being bed bound, I still researched this for you. Do your home work before posting. Also, I know the difference between gsm and cdma. After over 400 posts on this site, it's remarkable how little credit you give me. But back to the point, there are cdma phones out there that have Sim slots, also known as world phones. It does depend on the hardware however. So a Sim slot =/= unlocked for domestic gsm use. Actually it never means that, because I've never come across a world phone that's already unlocked for domestic gsm. Usually you have to flash a new baseband to enable the radio to work properly (assuming the radio has the capability to run on your bands).
The thread is brewing as we speak. Maybe you guys would like to stir the pot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25127887
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Fight the man!
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gtmaster303 said:
'sigh' even though I'm sick to the point of being bed bound, I still researched this for you. Do your home work before posting. Also, I know the difference between gsm and cdma. After over 400 posts on this site, it's remarkable how little credit you give me. But back to the point, there are cdma phones out there that have Sim slots, also known as world phones. It does depend on the hardware however. So a Sim slot =/= unlocked for domestic gsm use. Actually it never means that, because I've never come across a world phone that's already unlocked for domestic gsm. Usually you have to flash a new baseband to enable the radio to work properly (assuming the radio has the capability to run on your bands).
The thread is brewing as we speak. Maybe you guys would like to stir the pot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25127887
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Yes you are correct. It was just the way you said it I assumed you were trying to say you could make a CDMA only device a "World phone" by simply flashing a radio.

Apple saw the value in iPhones with CDMA, and Google owns Motorola Mobility so the push for the Droid team to branch out past Verizon might be just the kick start they need.

rdrrlabs said:
Apple saw the value in iPhones with CDMA, and Google owns Motorola Mobility so the push for the Droid team to branch out past Verizon might be just the kick start they need.
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Motorolla is in limbo - Google has repeatedly said they will not make a 'Google' branded hardware phone, they bought Motorolla for the patents. Most likely they will sell the hardware division of it off to Huwai (or however you spell it).
I wouldn't count on Motorolla making out from being a part of the Google empire, quite the opposite - they will be stripped of anything Google deems to be of value and what's left will be sold to the highest bidder.

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Moving from ATT to new carrier need help with carrier and best android OS phone?

I am currently on a T-mobile G2 unlocked for AT&T... I am going to be switching over to sprint, T-Mobile or MetroPCS and would like your help knowing which carrier is best in your own opinion? and which android phone i should get on this carrier.
for the carrier
Unlimited data with no overage
( I am use to edge network so even throttled 3G would be nice and there is no 4G here yet anyway but there might be in Future)
Good service
(I live in the New England area, USA and AT&T sucks here. I cant even send out text messages half the time.)
I am leaning towards sprint but I got a friend at T-mobile who will help me out and plus i can keep my old phone and MetroPCS is so cheap... so... i don't know who to choose?
Things i am looking for are (but not necessary) are
Ease of root (with lots of ROMs <3 CM 7)
Physical Keyboard
fast Dual Core CPU
Big screen (pretty Necessary specially if no physical keyboard)
3D capability
I love my G2 so much that I limit my self to edge speeds...
If there is a better time to get a phone i can wait or if something is coming out that looks better then whats on the current market.
I would love your IMO on a Android OS phone .
Thanks for reading this ahead of time and i Appreciate anyone opinions.
does metroPCS use GSM and Sim cards?... if so would they work with T-Mobiles 3G?
enp82003 said:
does metroPCS use GSM and Sim cards?... if so would they work with T-Mobiles 3G?
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Only AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM.
Note: There is also Simple Mobile but they use T-Mobile as their backend.
Check Wikipedia for a list of GSM providers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_mobile_virtual_network_operators
Sprint is the best hands down. Compared to t-mobile, my bill is half of what it used to be for my family and has twice the coverage. I own a kyocera echo and it
Is the best phone I have ever had!
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Falen said:
Only AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM.
Note: There is also Simple Mobile but they use T-Mobile as their backend.
Check Wikipedia for a list of GSM providers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_mobile_virtual_network_operators
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wow yeah i should of checked wiki! sorry about that but thanks for the response!
ognimnella said:
Sprint is the best hands down. Compared to t-mobile, my bill is half of what it used to be for my family and has twice the coverage. I own a kyocera echo and it
Is the best phone I have ever had!
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I was actually at the mall the other day looking at this phone. It seemed pretty cool and kind of unique! I never owned a Kyocra before but Seems like a really cool phone! I got your pvt message about it. Only real downside i can see is the signal core CPU really looking for dual core or waiting for quadcore to come out.
I use alot of process heavy applications. but I will play with it more the next time I go!... Sprint is really looking like the winner now!
Only thing that scares me about the Evo 3D is i remember they had some type of weird tracking software built in to the framework?... I could be wrong but i really don't like that...
My favorite story about Sprint was my friend called them saying he had horrible service and they sent him a small Cell phone tower that connected to their board band connection! absolutely free!
and using it will not interfere with their minutes!... that's just awesome to me!
I didn't see how Metropcs's wireless network is on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...work_operators. I did add it to the wiki though hopefully someone will fill it in.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/careful-what-you-do-on-your-evo-3d-you-are-being-watched/
Here is the article i found on Evo 3D.
Sprint is the only one of the big four to offer unlimited data, so sounds like that decides it for you, at least amongst them. I know nothing about regional carriers.
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Am I imagining things??

On several separate occasions I have been on the phone talking while surfing the web and running Google searches. All this while in 3g. Is it possible that Motorola has finally given us a cdma devise capable of simultaneous voice and data without need for 4g? If this is the case why has nobody mentioned it before. Am I the only one who has noticed this? Why was this not a main selling point at the Verizon store? Well, regardless of the answers to those questions I will say, "this phone is AWESOME"
I have been an androider with many different phones since the G1 on T-Mobile. Except for one month i made the the huge mistake of trying apple but i digress. I have also been rooting and romming since the G1. This is the first time that I have had a phone longer than a day without romming it. I have now had this phone a month and still have yet to rom it. I feel there is no need. I am getting 18hrs between charges and that's with screen on and streaming slacker radio in and out of 4g because I travel. Not a single phone that I have heard of or experienced can touch this phone on battery life or even come close for that matter. The build quality is amazing. The UI is amazing. The speed is amazing. The as of yet almost bug free android experience is amazing (only bug I have noticed is a slight lag in the keyboard while in landscape mode but, it always catches up. I type as though its not lagging at all). The display quality is amazing. Oh and by the way, after experiencing siri and all other voice activated apps. Moto voice commands is the best one ever. It actually understands what I'm saying. This is something I have known though since as far back as the bionic. The speed on this phone is amazing. The screen size on this phone is perfect. (IMO) the list of great things I can say about my experience over the last month with this device is almost endless. The main focus of this thread is for others to express their opinions of the phone and to acknowledge the fact that this phone is capable of simultaneous voice and data while in 3g.
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I didn't understand.
You're saying you ccan talk on your phone while on 4G? Or you're saying it stays stable while doing both surfing and talking?
And yes,
I do think it's an awesome phone and without need tom change to any custom ROM. I think...
liquelt said:
I didn't understand.
You're saying you ccan talk on your phone while on 4G? Or you're saying it stays stable while doing both surfing and talking?
And yes,
I do think it's an awesome phone and without need tom change to any custom ROM. I think...
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I think he is saying he was about to do voice and data at the same time while his phone was reporting it was on 3G, not 4G.
grmncrsnbr said:
I think he is saying he was about to do voice and data at the same time while his phone was reporting it was on 3G, not 4G.
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VZW has had phones that can do simultaneous voice and data on 3G before. HTC Rezound comes to mind, and I am sure it is not the only one...
SquireSCA said:
VZW has had phones that can do simultaneous voice and data on 3G before. HTC Rezound comes to mind, and I am sure it is not the only one...
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Thunderbolt could do it too. I think it was the first VZW phone that could.
steve0617 said:
Thunderbolt could do it too. I think it was the first VZW phone that could.
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Yeah, forgot about that one.
I noticed this also. I think it's great.
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SquireSCA said:
VZW has had phones that can do simultaneous voice and data on 3G before. HTC Rezound comes to mind, and I am sure it is not the only one...
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HTC has been doing it since the unveiling of their 1st 4g phone. They do it by including two separate antennas. This is the first Motorola device to do it though. I just think it should have been talked about more. Sales guy didn't even tell me about it when I was torn between this or the gsiii.
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IIRC, my bionic did it as well!
yutzyscott said:
HTC has been doing it since the unveiling of their 1st 4g phone. They do it by including two separate antennas. This is the first Motorola device to do it though. I just think it should have been talked about more. Sales guy didn't even tell me about it when I was torn between this or the gsiii.
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I believe the EVO 4G was the first 4G phone ever and it was from HTC. It couldn't do data and voice while on 3G but it could while on 4G.
I'm almost certain that this has nothing to do with 3g/4g and more about the radios that are used. Similar to how the verizon iPhone 5 is incapable out the box of simultaneous voice and data because of how they utilized the radio.
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clintonroche said:
IIRC, my bionic did it as well!
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I had a bionic. It was a piece of crap. It did simultaneous voice and data only in 4G mode not 3G. This I know for a fact. As far as the one who said that the epic 4G was incapable of this, yes you are right it was. I should have been more specific and pointed out that I was referring to Verizon only as I am not a sprint customer.
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brownrt said:
I'm almost certain that this has nothing to do with 3g/4g and more about the radios that are used. Similar to how the verizon iPhone 5 is incapable out the box of simultaneous voice and data because of how they utilized the radio.
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On a 3G CDMA network the only way to achieve simultaneous voice and data is by providing with two antennas so that while one is being utilized for voice the other can maintain data. There is no way to achieve this with only firmware (ex. Radio file) that is written to do so. You must have the second antenna as well as properly written firmware. The iPhone 5 is a different bowl of wax. The phone isn't capable of this even while connected via LTE because the firmware was written in such a way to prevent it even though LTE is natively designed to do so. So in closing it can be disabled solely with firmware on a capable network but, not enabled solely with firmware on an incapable network.
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Wait a second, let me make sure I understand this correctly... You're saying the iphone5 can't talk and data at the same time? This was a huge selling point for previous iphones, why would they do away with it? Other than to save room in the device to make it smaller, I understand that, but you would think they would want to keep the phone technologically up-to-date (or at least up-to-date with the ancestor devices...)
I always knew Apple was a joke. This is just reason # I-Lost-Count.
iPhone 5 on GSM can do data and voice simultaneously. Only CDMA carriers like Verizon suffer from the problem.
Apple didn't want to put an extra antenna in it because they said it will mess with their design... so they left it out.

Why even GS2 get premium suite and we don't?

Who's to blame?
Agreed. Once our two years is up with VZW, I plan to hit the ground running...back to AT&T.
pez910 said:
Agreed. Once our two years is up with VZW, I plan to hit the ground running...back to AT&T.
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Last I checked ATT hasn't gotten the "premium suite" either. I don't think they even have the official 4.1.2 update like we do. I put premium suite in quotes because premium suite probably means different things for different devices. We technically did receive a "premium suite" upgrade with the BLK3 firmware, but this only included Swype 1.4, and some other stuff I don't remember.
I guess the benefit of ATT/TMobile in this regard is that you could use the international S3 on their networks, and that will get frequent updates from Samsung directly.
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Last I checked ATT hasn't gotten the "premium suite" either. I don't think they even have the official 4.1.2 update like we do. I put premium suite in quotes because premium suite probably means different things for different devices. We technically did receive a "premium suite" upgrade with the BLK3 firmware, but this only included Swype 1.4, and some other stuff I don't remember.
I guess the benefit of ATT/TMobile in this regard is that you could use the international S3 on their networks, and that will get frequent updates from Samsung directly.
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I assume he just means month to month with an unlocked device. Otherwise it is simply illogical. To go from one overbearing carrier that holds the latest sweet treats from you to another is not a viable solution. Personally I would just root and install any premium suites along with a more refined OS, and stick with the superior network.... Rule the air!
Something to consider
ManiakalSealion said:
I assume he just means month to month with an unlocked device. Otherwise it is simply illogical. To go from one overbearing carrier that holds the latest sweet treats from you to another is not a viable solution. Personally I would just root and install any premium suites along with a more refined OS, and stick with the superior network.... Rule the air!
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I have to keep wondering why the other handset makers aren't allowed the same freedom Apple is? I mean, when Apple puts out a new version of iOS, all iPhones get the update directly from Apple. They do not have to wait for the carriers to "test" or "verify compatibility" with their networks. The phones get the update and the customers get the latest software. Also, ever notice that iPhones are not jammed full of carrier bloatware? Maybe Apple told the carriers that they wouldn't get the iPhone unless Apple was able to completely control the software on the phone. So carriers caved just to get it. What about now though? Seems Android has surpassed the iPhone. Think it is about time the handset makers told the carriers that enough is enough. It's not like the carriers are in a great position to refuse. No phones, no business. At least then it would make it easier for the manufacturers and lessen the number of variants they need to make. Apple has already proven that it can be done and that the carriers will cave. Just a thought.
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I have to keep wondering why the other handset makers aren't allowed the same freedom Apple is? I mean, when Apple puts out a new version of iOS, all iPhones get the update directly from Apple. They do not have to wait for the carriers to "test" or "verify compatibility" with their networks. The phones get the update and the customers get the latest software. Also, ever notice that iPhones are not jammed full of carrier bloatware? Maybe Apple told the carriers that they wouldn't get the iPhone unless Apple was able to completely control the software on the phone. So carriers caved just to get it. What about now though? Seems Android has surpassed the iPhone. Think it is about time the handset makers told the carriers that enough is enough. It's not like the carriers are in a great position to refuse. No phones, no business. At least then it would make it easier for the manufacturers and lessen the number of variants they need to make. Apple has already proven that it can be done and that the carriers will cave. Just a thought.
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You are exactly right, Apple played hardball and only allowed carriers that let them update on their schedule and gave them control infer the firmware (no bloat).
They could do this because they had the leverage, the carriers wanted the iPhone more than Apple needed them. Now some carriers like Verizon actually held out of selling the iPhone for a while because of this reason.
This is more difficult for Android manufacturers because before the S3 there hasn't been a phone that really commanded respect from the carriers. Companies like HTC can't even get their flagship phone carried by Verizon. Now Samsung had the leverage, let's see if they start throwing their weight around.
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Exactly. If the manufacturer wants the leverage to totally control their software, they need to release a phone that people are willing to switch carriers for
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Exactly. If the manufacturer wants the leverage to totally control their software, they need to release a phone that people are willing to switch carriers for
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Maybe if all the manufacturers got together and told the carriers "No more phones until we have control of our software." I know that will never happen but what if.........
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Who's to blame?
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You are.
funnyperson1 said:
Last I checked ATT hasn't gotten the "premium suite" either. I don't think they even have the official 4.1.2 update like we do. I put premium suite in quotes because premium suite probably means different things for different devices. We technically did receive a "premium suite" upgrade with the BLK3 firmware, but this only included Swype 1.4, and some other stuff I don't remember.
I guess the benefit of ATT/TMobile in this regard is that you could use the international S3 on their networks, and that will get frequent updates from Samsung directly.
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ManiakalSealion said:
I assume he just means month to month with an unlocked device. Otherwise it is simply illogical. To go from one overbearing carrier that holds the latest sweet treats from you to another is not a viable solution. Personally I would just root and install any premium suites along with a more refined OS, and stick with the superior network.... Rule the air!
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I guess I should have been more clear: In my experience (and everyone's is different), AT&T has always been the one to have their crap together. It took my small town a while to get 3G through AT&T, but their EDGE network was equivalent to Verizon's 3G. It still is there and here (near Fort Bragg, NC). I've never managed to get above 1Mbps with Verizon's 3G in either place. Their 4G LTE is great, but it fails to penetrate buildings (here) well at all.
At the place I work (small retail store, size of Family Dollar/Dollar General), I get nearly full LTE signal at the front of the store, but when I hit the halfway point, it just drops. When I'm on campus, 2-4 bars of LTE, but inside a building, I'm lucky to keep a consistent 1-2 bar 3G signal. AT&T just got LTE here a few months ago, but overcast, rain, shine, or deep inside of a building, their 3G, '4G' and LTE have never managed to have less than 4 bars.
Every time I bring this up, though, there are people that have nearly opposite experiences, too. I'm not saying Verizon is a terrible provider, but because of poor setups, or network saturation, it has become nearly unbearable to enjoy a 'smartphone' on their networks.
TL;DR: AT&T is multiply better than VZW in SouthEastern NC.
Hobson318 said:
I have to keep wondering why the other handset makers aren't allowed the same freedom Apple is? I mean, when Apple puts out a new version of iOS, all iPhones get the update directly from Apple. They do not have to wait for the carriers to "test" or "verify compatibility" with their networks. The phones get the update and the customers get the latest software. Also, ever notice that iPhones are not jammed full of carrier bloatware? Maybe Apple told the carriers that they wouldn't get the iPhone unless Apple was able to completely control the software on the phone. So carriers caved just to get it. What about now though? Seems Android has surpassed the iPhone. Think it is about time the handset makers told the carriers that enough is enough. It's not like the carriers are in a great position to refuse. No phones, no business. At least then it would make it easier for the manufacturers and lessen the number of variants they need to make. Apple has already proven that it can be done and that the carriers will cave. Just a thought.
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I've always wished Android phones, or at least Nexus devices were able to have this privilege. At the same time, Android has the wonderful world of rooting, and now that I've finally taken the dive, it's hard to look back at iOS for me.
I would NOT be surprised if Samsung stopped selling their big named phones at Verizon after whatever contract they probably have. We can all see Verizon pampers Motorola over Samsung. All I see from them is Update for DROID RAZR HD every 2 months. Just one the other day.
We had what 1 or 2 real ones and this new one which is worthless because it doesn't actually bring us up to International 4.1.2?
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I guess I should have been more clear: In my experience (and everyone's is different), AT&T has always been the one to have their crap together. It took my small town a while to get 3G through AT&T, but their EDGE network was equivalent to Verizon's 3G. It still is there and here (near Fort Bragg, NC). I've never managed to get above 1Mbps with Verizon's 3G in either place. Their 4G LTE is great, but it fails to penetrate buildings (here) well at all.
At the place I work (small retail store, size of Family Dollar/Dollar General), I get nearly full LTE signal at the front of the store, but when I hit the halfway point, it just drops. When I'm on campus, 2-4 bars of LTE, but inside a building, I'm lucky to keep a consistent 1-2 bar 3G signal. AT&T just got LTE here a few months ago, but overcast, rain, shine, or deep inside of a building, their 3G, '4G' and LTE have never managed to have less than 4 bars.
Every time I bring this up, though, there are people that have nearly opposite experiences, too. I'm not saying Verizon is a terrible provider, but because of poor setups, or network saturation, it has become nearly unbearable to enjoy a 'smartphone' on their networks.
TL;DR: AT&T is multiply better than VZW in SouthEastern NC.
I've always wished Android phones, or at least Nexus devices were able to have this privilege. At the same time, Android has the wonderful world of rooting, and now that I've finally taken the dive, it's hard to look back at iOS for me.
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I feel you, reception has always been a regional thing. Where I currently live and work ATT is pretty much useless indoors, I could be standing outside a (stone) building with 5bars of 3G, and when I stepped inside the door I would be searching for signal. On the other hand Verizon has had 4G LTE here for like 2+ years and I usually get 2-3 bars of LTE indoors. Verizon LTE here is better than all but the most expensive cable internet packages.
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I would NOT be surprised if Samsung stopped selling their big named phones at Verizon after whatever contract they probably have. We can all see Verizon pampers Motorola over Samsung. All I see from them is Update for DROID RAZR HD every 2 months. Just one the other day.
We had what 1 or 2 real ones and this new one which is worthless because it doesn't actually bring us up to International 4.1.2?
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Except the lack of multi-window seems to be entirely in Samsung's court at the moment. I may be wrong but none of the US S3's have multi-window support in the stock firmware. My guess is that it may be easier to implement multi-window in the Quad-core international version than it is on our dual-core phones.
I'm asking this seriously, not just complaining.
Someone will easily think out VZW, but ATT etc. also don't get it. Someone goes with dual core, but ours should be better than GS2 right?
And even with root you don't have a reliable and bug free solution for those PS features, especially Multi-Window.
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guess I was wrong, see a new mod in app and theme section, fot MW, flashing now!
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Yeah, I'm struggling over this 3G right now, and even still I'm not sure of I successfully quoted this post. How I wish my experience with Verizon was the complete opposite.
On top of that, Apple only has one device that recieves updates; unlike Android, which has one update for several devices under different manufacturers. I wouldn't give up Touchwiz for anything, but the Nexus is clearly the way to go right now.
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Hmm cleanrom seems to have some of the premium suite features. Sound balance, best faces, not sure what else.
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Sprint to Tmobile

Ok, can someone help me. I want to switch to Tmobile because in my area Data is 10x faster with them. I have to bring my daughters as well. I'm an Android junky, they are not. My question is, will sprint I phone 4s work on tmobile? Tmo says I have to have sprint unlock them, then I can put Tmo sim in and we're good. Is that true? Will it work on Tmo 4g? And will Sprint unlock easily? Thanks. I'm just gonna wait on the ONE to switch mine, but my kids don't know the joy of Android
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Don't think so
Sprint is on a PCS network and Tmobile uses GSM. They are totally different. You could bring an ATT IPhone to Tmoblie.
You should try to get your daughters away from those IPhones...
Good Luck
Yes, the 4S has a GSM SIM card that can be unlocked, but they're not still not going to want to let you use it on a domestic carrier - they will generally unlock for a customer in good standing for international use. Looking at some threads about people trying to get the Sprint 4S to work on T-Mobile it looks like way too much hassle requiring special equipment (at least at one point in time) and with poor results when it comes to function on T-Mobile's network. The phones also need to be jailbroken because Apple is cooperating with Sprint to not allow you to take the Sprint phone to another domestic carrier's network - this brings a whole new set of potential problems.
If you really want to try it, Google it and see what it would take on your part. Personally, I wouldn't want to do something like that with a kid's phone unless they were going to understand the process and be responsible and able to troubleshoot if things went wrong (same reason I wouldn't root a kid's phone for them without them understanding what's going on and the problems they might face and how to fix them).
Unless they're deeply invested in Apple's market, I'd sell the 4S's and get them N4's or S2's or something. This doesn't have to do with any personal dislike for iPhones - but for the fact that if you're going to go with T-Mobile their ability to get a signal and what kind of signal will depend on the local network and what work T-Mobile has done, even if you traded the Sprint models for factory unlocked ones. They may end up only ever getting 2g, they might have poor coverage due to lack of 1700MHz and more. And since they're your daughters I'd guess you want to make sure they can get a signal no matter where they are in case there's an emergency. I would explain things to them like adults - explain the reason you want to switch services and the impact on them if they choose to stay with an iPhone, show them how Android is really not all that different - teach them about making informed choices and to understand why they are making a certain choice.
Big THANKS that was the BEST Answer I could hope for
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Ok, can someone help me. I want to switch to Tmobile because in my area Data is 10x faster with them. I have to bring my daughters as well. I'm an Android junky, they are not. My question is, will sprint I phone 4s work on tmobile? Tmo says I have to have sprint unlock them, then I can put Tmo sim in and we're good. Is that true? Will it work on Tmo 4g? And will Sprint unlock easily? Thanks. I'm just gonna wait on the ONE to switch mine, but my kids don't know the joy of Android
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Nevermind...completely misread the type of phone.
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AT&T LTE on Verizon Variant?

Ok so I know that the Verizon M8 is unlocked and works on AT&T. I'm also aware that HSPA+ is supposed to be as good as it gets which is fine with me.because for the most part my service is terrible on AT&T as I live in a little Podunk town that doesn't have LTE. That being said the cities to the north and south of me both have LTE. I recently acquired the Verizon M8 and have made several trips to.both places and the phone always just shows H with the signal. Today however I happened to look at my phone and it's showing LTE, not only that but everything.is functioning. Internet, sending and.receiving sms and mms, and making calls all works.
Is there something.obvious I'm missing? To the best of my knowledge I shouldn't be getting LTE and my speed test pegged me at about 8 down but signal was weak so that doesn't surprise me.
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Why did you buy a Verizon M8 to use on AT&T? If you're on AT&T, get the AT&T version. There's a reason carrier specific versions are sold, and it's not only because the carriers are evil demons out to butt rape your wallet.
The network designs of Verizon and AT&T are radically different, and even if the M8 has the hardware for both the different variants are designed out of the box to only work with one.
So, even if you did get it to work with AT&T's network, who knows what kind of problems you may be experiencing. It may just be network congestion, it may be something else. Point it, it's tough to troubleshoot when you bought a device from the wrong carrier, as you just introduced a whole new crazy variable into the equation.
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Why did you buy a Verizon M8 to use on AT&T? If you're on AT&T, get the AT&T version. There's a reason carrier specific versions are sold, and it's not only because the carriers are evil demons out to butt rape your wallet.
The network designs of Verizon and AT&T are radically different, and even if the M8 has the hardware for both the different variants are designed out of the box to only work with one.
So, even if you did get it to work with AT&T's network, who knows what kind of problems you may be experiencing. It may just be network congestion, it may be something else. Point it, it's tough to troubleshoot when you bought a device from the wrong carrier, as you just introduced a whole new crazy variable into the equation.
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Slow down there captain. I'm not complaining about service issues or anything of the sort. I'm questioning whether it's actually possible that I could be getting AT&T LTE on the Verizon Variant. The circumstances behind why I have the Verizon version are completely irrelevant. I have an s5 I can use if I want and if it makes you happy it is the AT&T version.
I understand the differences between AT&T and Verizon's infrastructure, but it just so happens that the Verizon m8 has everything I need to function perfectly for me. So please take the time to actually address what I was asking instead of judging me for not purchasing the device you think I should have.
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cloudraker said:
Slow down there captain. I'm not complaining about service issues or anything of the sort. I'm questioning whether it's actually possible that I could be getting AT&T LTE on the Verizon Variant. The circumstances behind why I have the Verizon version are completely irrelevant. I have an s5 I can use if I want and if it makes you happy it is the AT&T version.
I understand the differences between AT&T and Verizon's infrastructure, but it just so happens that the Verizon m8 has everything I need to function perfectly for me. So please take the time to actually address what I was asking instead of judging me for not purchasing the device you think I should have.
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Bravo just another basher that was quick to judge and his only intent was to try to put you down. It sucks that you cant erase peoples comments off of your posting because its posts like that that you should be able to delete. My philosophy is if you cant say anything nice please dont say anything at all. Some people just love to put down others or their opinions, questions or comments. :good:
You realize that he didnt answer the question being asked and instead asked why did you buy that variant! And no, I dont think cloudraker was putting him down in any way.
cloudraker said:
Ok so I know that the Verizon M8 is unlocked and works on AT&T. I'm also aware that HSPA+ is supposed to be as good as it gets which is fine with me.because for the most part my service is terrible on AT&T as I live in a little Podunk town that doesn't have LTE. That being said the cities to the north and south of me both have LTE. I recently acquired the Verizon M8 and have made several trips to.both places and the phone always just shows H with the signal. Today however I happened to look at my phone and it's showing LTE, not only that but everything.is functioning. Internet, sending and.receiving sms and mms, and making calls all works.
Is there something.obvious I'm missing? To the best of my knowledge I shouldn't be getting LTE and my speed test pegged me at about 8 down but signal was weak so that doesn't surprise me.
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Why don't you try Convert it to AT&T or Unlock more LTE band

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