Ok so I know that the Verizon M8 is unlocked and works on AT&T. I'm also aware that HSPA+ is supposed to be as good as it gets which is fine with me.because for the most part my service is terrible on AT&T as I live in a little Podunk town that doesn't have LTE. That being said the cities to the north and south of me both have LTE. I recently acquired the Verizon M8 and have made several trips to.both places and the phone always just shows H with the signal. Today however I happened to look at my phone and it's showing LTE, not only that but everything.is functioning. Internet, sending and.receiving sms and mms, and making calls all works.
Is there something.obvious I'm missing? To the best of my knowledge I shouldn't be getting LTE and my speed test pegged me at about 8 down but signal was weak so that doesn't surprise me.
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Why did you buy a Verizon M8 to use on AT&T? If you're on AT&T, get the AT&T version. There's a reason carrier specific versions are sold, and it's not only because the carriers are evil demons out to butt rape your wallet.
The network designs of Verizon and AT&T are radically different, and even if the M8 has the hardware for both the different variants are designed out of the box to only work with one.
So, even if you did get it to work with AT&T's network, who knows what kind of problems you may be experiencing. It may just be network congestion, it may be something else. Point it, it's tough to troubleshoot when you bought a device from the wrong carrier, as you just introduced a whole new crazy variable into the equation.
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Why did you buy a Verizon M8 to use on AT&T? If you're on AT&T, get the AT&T version. There's a reason carrier specific versions are sold, and it's not only because the carriers are evil demons out to butt rape your wallet.
The network designs of Verizon and AT&T are radically different, and even if the M8 has the hardware for both the different variants are designed out of the box to only work with one.
So, even if you did get it to work with AT&T's network, who knows what kind of problems you may be experiencing. It may just be network congestion, it may be something else. Point it, it's tough to troubleshoot when you bought a device from the wrong carrier, as you just introduced a whole new crazy variable into the equation.
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Slow down there captain. I'm not complaining about service issues or anything of the sort. I'm questioning whether it's actually possible that I could be getting AT&T LTE on the Verizon Variant. The circumstances behind why I have the Verizon version are completely irrelevant. I have an s5 I can use if I want and if it makes you happy it is the AT&T version.
I understand the differences between AT&T and Verizon's infrastructure, but it just so happens that the Verizon m8 has everything I need to function perfectly for me. So please take the time to actually address what I was asking instead of judging me for not purchasing the device you think I should have.
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Slow down there captain. I'm not complaining about service issues or anything of the sort. I'm questioning whether it's actually possible that I could be getting AT&T LTE on the Verizon Variant. The circumstances behind why I have the Verizon version are completely irrelevant. I have an s5 I can use if I want and if it makes you happy it is the AT&T version.
I understand the differences between AT&T and Verizon's infrastructure, but it just so happens that the Verizon m8 has everything I need to function perfectly for me. So please take the time to actually address what I was asking instead of judging me for not purchasing the device you think I should have.
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Bravo just another basher that was quick to judge and his only intent was to try to put you down. It sucks that you cant erase peoples comments off of your posting because its posts like that that you should be able to delete. My philosophy is if you cant say anything nice please dont say anything at all. Some people just love to put down others or their opinions, questions or comments. :good:
You realize that he didnt answer the question being asked and instead asked why did you buy that variant! And no, I dont think cloudraker was putting him down in any way.
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Ok so I know that the Verizon M8 is unlocked and works on AT&T. I'm also aware that HSPA+ is supposed to be as good as it gets which is fine with me.because for the most part my service is terrible on AT&T as I live in a little Podunk town that doesn't have LTE. That being said the cities to the north and south of me both have LTE. I recently acquired the Verizon M8 and have made several trips to.both places and the phone always just shows H with the signal. Today however I happened to look at my phone and it's showing LTE, not only that but everything.is functioning. Internet, sending and.receiving sms and mms, and making calls all works.
Is there something.obvious I'm missing? To the best of my knowledge I shouldn't be getting LTE and my speed test pegged me at about 8 down but signal was weak so that doesn't surprise me.
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Why don't you try Convert it to AT&T or Unlock more LTE band
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So I bought a Samsung Infuse off Craigslist. I love it, it's awesome. I use the Simple Mobile $60/m plan. I previously had a Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant before the Infuse. I used to run CM7 but used Bionix 1.31 as my ROM on my Vibrant. So I'm familiar with the ends and outs of this technology.
The Situation: Samsung Infuse running latest "unofficial build" CM7, flawless performance. After doing much research as to APN settings on Google and XDA I found that the internet is wrong with the APN settings for HSPA+ on a HSPA+ capable phones. I called Simple Mobile yesterday and we did an OTA (she spoke I listened) configuration of the APN and it's full of IP addresses nao. She said that will allow me to access the "4G" network. The thing is, it says "E" for EDGE at the top for my signal....consistently.
The Problem: The EDGE never changes, also according to various speedtest's I can't EVER break .50kbs DL speed off of WiFi.
So I tried switching out various modems that we're available to me for the Infuse via the CWM flashable's. I've seen NO IMPROVEMENT on data speeds after each modem.
So what exactly is the issue: Am I doing something wrong via XDA material? Or am I just ****ed on HSPA+/4G speeds?
Simple mobile use tmobile towers, so u'll never get anything other than EDGE because att&fee phones dont use the same bands
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Simple mobile use tmobile towers, so u'll never get anything other than EDGE because att&fee phones dont use the same bands
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You are right and WRONG all at the same time...fascinating isn't it!
Simple Mobile does in FACT use T-Mobile Towers, however; before I rocked the Infuse I've seen other speeds that read 3G/H. The Simple Mobile Network offers 4G/HSPA+ with the $60/m plan that I am currently on.
So with that information, how would you explain that a phone that is HSPA+ capable and programmed correctly that sits on the EDGE network and still doesn't break .50kbs DL speed??
I spoke with customer service at Simple Mobile and several other Simple Mobile retailers that told me up one wall and down the other that the Samsung Infuse programmed correctly should FLY without WiFi, this phone should act like the rocket it claims to be with data on the network.
Instead it is slow, sux and is worthless without WiFi.
So how come you tell me one thing, and several people that work for the Network and people that are affiliated with it tell me another?
Simple because there trying to sell you. Remember its a business?
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Simple because there trying to sell you. Remember its a business?
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I own a business; I know about selling. But according to my research, your a little or alot off; I just can't exactly prove it.
I know that AT&T offers 4Gish speeds (true LTE in like 2 cities in TX), and that T-Mobile offers 3.5+G-4Gish speeds.
I also understand the concept of up-selling, however that scenario does not apply with my current plan and situation.
Has it, or has it NOT been documented ANYWHERE that an HSPA+ capable phone on the $60/m Simple Mobile plan achieved true or realistic data DL speeds off WiFi?
I am no tech or anywhere educated in this topic. But why are you comparing network speeds with your wifi? Or am I missing something here?
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I am no tech or anywhere educated in this topic. But why are you comparing network speeds with your wifi? Or am I missing something here?
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I'm not using WiFi as a comparison, just as another option for higher DL speeds. Off WiFi I've seen snails crawl faster than my data can move.
I just want to know why I can't get anything better than **** with this great phone and supposedly "reasonably-good" network.
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You are right and WRONG all at the same time...fascinating isn't it!
Simple Mobile does in FACT use T-Mobile Towers, however; before I rocked the Infuse I've seen other speeds that read 3G/H. The Simple Mobile Network offers 4G/HSPA+ with the $60/m plan that I am currently on.
So with that information, how would you explain that a phone that is HSPA+ capable and programmed correctly that sits on the EDGE network and still doesn't break .50kbs DL speed??
I spoke with customer service at Simple Mobile and several other Simple Mobile retailers that told me up one wall and down the other that the Samsung Infuse programmed correctly should FLY without WiFi, this phone should act like the rocket it claims to be with data on the network.
Instead it is slow, sux and is worthless without WiFi.
So how come you tell me one thing, and several people that work for the Network and people that are affiliated with it tell me another?
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They simply dont know wat they r talking about, they r trained within their own company and dont know that other bands exist and not all 4G r on the same band, same for 3G. So i suggest u sell ur phone and get a tmobile phone or switch to ATT. Next time when u buy a phone, insert ur Sim card in and test the network before u pay
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They simply dont know wat they r talking about, they r trained within their own company and dont know that other bands exist and not all 4G r on the same band, same for 3G. So i suggest u sell ur phone and get a tmobile phone or switch to ATT. Next time when u buy a phone, insert ur Sim card in and test the network before u pay
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The phone was NETWORK LOCKED when I bought it, so I guess I suppose I'm glad you we'rent with my when I bought it lol.
I'll take into mild consideration that a multitude of people may not be aware of alternate existing networks.
The T-Mobile phone I had before licked ****ing sac, my buddy has a Captivate that OVER-SHINED my Vibrant any day of the week - So No, I won't buy a phone from a company that's supposedly being bought out BY AT&T.
From previous quotes: It seems that we are implying that ONLY a T-MOBILE BRAND PHONE can access the 4Gish HSPA+ speeds that Simple Mobile network (that uses T-Mobile towers) and not an AT&T branded phone.
Yes, it's true....the above DOES in fact sound stupid when I put it on paper. AT&T and T-Mobile use the same towers and Simple Mobile/Metro PCS (some other un-explained networks) use the SAME towers.
So how is it, according to posters: That replacing AT&T phone with T-Mobile garbage will allow me to acquire the DL speeds that reference HSPA+/4G speeds. AND NOT, under any circumstances is it possible for an AT&T phone that uses the same towers to get the same outcome?
OK, the last part really does sound stupid, I feel like I'm arguing with a mockingbird. Anyone else have any further to offer?
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Simple mobile use tmobile towers, so u'll never get anything other than EDGE because att&fee phones dont use the same bands
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Actually I re-read this statement. AT&T don't use the same bands, something about T-Mobile uses 850 and AT&T uses 1700.
Would changing the band selection make a difference? How to if possible?
I think u can only change the APN, not the band, the band is hardware, not software. I had the same problem trying to use my Desire HD on tmobile and couldnt get anything more than edge. I did also ask questions here and all i got is the answer i told u. So sell ur phone asap, dont wait until its price drops more
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I think u can only change the APN, not the band, the band is hardware, not software. I had the same problem trying to use my Desire HD on tmobile and couldnt get anything more than edge. I did also ask questions here and all i got is the answer i told u. So sell ur phone asap, dont wait until its price drops more
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Word, posted on Craigslist and I suppose I'll get an HTC Sensation. Thank-you for your recent clarification.
Yo! You need straight talk to get it working simple mobile uses T-Mobile bands straight talk uses AT&T's network.
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Yo! You need straight talk to get it working simple mobile uses T-Mobile bands straight talk uses AT&T's network.
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Will straight talk sim work on not "straight talk phones"?
Which cheapest phone of straight talk I have to buy to get their SIM-card?
I know they selling GSM and CDMA phones and don't want to buy wrong one.
Flat Out answer only the 2G or EDGE bands in the phone are compatible with ATT networks the other bands are different so if you want bettter speeds get att or use wi-fi because edge is all you will ever get no matter what you do to the APN
like on the previous post mentioned, i think most of the att phones doesn't have the radio that is capable of receiving the 3g/4g frequencies tmobile use. i could be wrong, but i think is a hardware problem rather than a setting you can change.
Simple mobile is Tmobile, 3g may never work.
Strait talk is a variety of carriers, depends on,the specific phone. The only known phones that work from the att network and have a Sim that works in other phones are the expensive Nokia smart phones. But those also have a Tmobile variant, I don't know how to tell the difference without looking at the Sim.
There is also consumer cellular, apparently that,is att but I don't know if it's full talk text and Web or how it's billed.
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Simple mobile is Tmobile, 3g may never work.
Strait talk is a variety of carriers, depends on,the specific phone. The only known phones that work from the att network and have a Sim that works in other phones are the expensive Nokia smart phones. But those also have a Tmobile variant, I don't know how to tell the difference without looking at the Sim.
There is also consumer cellular, apparently that,is att but I don't know if it's full talk text and Web or how it's billed.
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Consumer Cellular is VERY "no-frills" - it's only for VERY light users.
There is no AT&T phone that I know of that supports the 1700 MHz band required for T-Mobile 3G.
The only phone I know of that has pentaband HSPA+ (works on both AT&T and T-Mobile) is the Galaxy Nexus.
When I programmed my HTC Evo 3D i saw various optinos for cdma/eg/4g in CDMA Workshop & QPST Service Programming, what I saw was diferent types of bands and freqz, you might wana check out a phone's specs of tmobile and then check if those specs (frqz & bands) match with the one set on your device...
For example
The Vocoder settings
band prefferences :
band class 0/1/2/3/4/5/ sys a/b/
GSM DSC 1800
GSM extended 900
Etc etc.... check with the device's password on it's profiles and realms (settings I can view on my evo using ##data# )
I can confirm that the issue is with the phones. I just ran a test using my simple mobile card on an AT&T Infuse vs Tmobile Vibrant 4G.
AT&T Infuse
Edge connection with 50kps max
Tmobile Vibrant 4G
3G connection with 240kps max
I will be going to staright talk at the end on this billing cycle.
What's up guys some of you know me some don't, but I am looking for a new carrier and device to build my roms for, so I want to ask you guys what you like about att and what you don't. I need something different from vzw mainly because of price, but I want to also try out a different user base I've been building roms for vzw based devices for year's now and it seems like they are dying out fast forums are dead no real dev support so tell me your opinions guys, and let ne know if you would like to see ne around thanks
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Get Tmobile. And unlock the HOX. Best combination IMO.
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Get Tmobile. And unlock the HOX. Best combination IMO.
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Cool, enjoy your EDGE!
@OP- I have had nothing but great experiences with AT&T. Their plans are decently priced, their LTE is fast as hell, and their customer service reps are easily manipulated.
at&t data speeds are better. Prices are pretty good. Versus Verizon. Customer service is also pretty good, I always get them to refund my activation fees, lol. Plus we have a nice community and need more devs.
Please join us.
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Get T-Mobile and a One S. AT&T is too damn expensive.
They also have an annoying threashold set for voice activity detection on their calls resulting in an audible mute whenever someone stops talking for half a second. Most people don't notice it, but I do. It honestly feels like you're talking to someone on a walkie talkie... This doesn't happen when I'm using T-Mobile. So... What I'm trying to say is call quality blows, and I also get dropped calls a lot...
Update: and LTE isn't even available in most decent cities. There are only like 11 locations in the USA.
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At&t lte is awesome and as already stated att reps are pretty easy to manipulate I can't tell how many times I've gotten them to credit my account for various charges. The one x has a great community very friendly for the most part and the phone itself is solid. We have a handful of great devs and they seam to work well together when it comes to sharing and helping each other out. You would be a very welcome addition to the community.
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What's up guys some of you know me some don't, but I am looking for a new carrier and device to build my roms for, so I want to ask you guys what you like about att and what you don't. I need something different from vzw mainly because of price, but I want to also try out a different user base I've been building roms for vzw based devices for year's now and it seems like they are dying out fast forums are dead no real dev support so tell me your opinions guys, and let ne know if you would like to see ne around thanks
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I remember you from the Rezound. I'm sure everyone would love to have you developing for the One X. You're stuff was great.
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Get T-Mobile and a One S. AT&T is too damn expensive.
They also have an annoying threashold set for voice activity detection on their calls resulting in an audible mute whenever someone stops talking for half a second. Most people don't notice it, but I do. It honestly feels like you're talking to someone on a walkie talkie... This doesn't happen when I'm using T-Mobile. So... What I'm trying to say is call quality blows, and I also get dropped calls a lot...
Update: and LTE isn't even available in most decent cities. There are only like 11 locations in the USA.
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I have great call quality and that mute is kinda nice. I think it's built into the phones myself, since my gpas flip phone never does this. Cuts out background noise.
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I am pleased with the att coverage. Customer service is pretty good also. I usually get to upgrade every 6 months just have to call and ask them and I don't even make threats to leave. They just talk to a mananger and its all good.
I am sure your aware of this but not all service is great in all areas. I'm in south Louisiana where att is great and Verizon blows. As I'm positive Verizon is boss in some areas where att is crap. So research your area before switching.
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Coverage for Verizon vs. AT&T varies quite a bit in some locations, so I'd check with friends, coworkers, etc. and try to get a feel for coverage quality in your general area, and places you visit frequently.
Just as example, in my home/work area (Boston suburbs) the reception for both VZN and AT&T is very good. But for other places, such as a ski are in NH that I occasionally visit, reception is non-existent (both voice and data, no signal at all) on AT&T while my friends on VZN have great voice and data reception. Just anecdotally, I find this situation to be the case more often than not, where VZN has more consistent coverage than AT&T. When I was on a camping trip with friends to Alabama last fall, I had no data on AT&T, and could barely get a voice call out (with signal breaking up, and dropping calls) while my VZN friends were enjoying great voice reception and full 3G. Given, it was a pretty rural area. But coverage in your local area should definitely be considered when looking at changing carriers.
Another consideration is if you do any foreign travel, and intend to roam on your local carrier. The vast majority of customers never do this, or not frequently enough to matter. But I travel quite a bit for work, and its one of the main reasons I stay with AT&T. CDMA is simply not used in most parts of the world, and VZN's selection or "world" phones (with GSM compatibility) is very limited. Roaming service on AT&T has been consistently great, in a variety of foreign countries. Funny thing, both coworkers I was traveling with to Germany recently were on VZN, and had big issues with service during the trip. They had to use my AT&T phone to call VZN customer support (which I obviously gave them sh_t about). First off, the phones weren't setup right for international roaming, which was probably more my companies fault, and not VZN. But even after they had things up and running, they lost service the next day. VZN claimed it was a fire at a nearby Vodaphone switching station that was interrupting service in the whole area. But my AT&T phone was also connected to Vodaphone, and was working just fine. I ribbed my coworkers yet again: "Can you hear me now???" :victory:
Again, the foreign travel thing doesn't apply to a great many people. But if it applies to you, I'd say that AT&T wins in that category.
Att service and customer service had been great since switching from Verizon 6Yrs ago. LTE is fast when available, and hspa+ is a fast fallback also.
I don't get static or bad reception in los angeles, san Francisco or Denver. Except in the mountains sometimes.
Phones are cheaper than Verizon and tmobile.
Go for it.
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Get T-Mobile and a One S. AT&T is too damn expensive.
They also have an annoying threashold set for voice activity detection on their calls resulting in an audible mute whenever someone stops talking for half a second. Most people don't notice it, but I do. It honestly feels like you're talking to someone on a walkie talkie... This doesn't happen when I'm using T-Mobile. So... What I'm trying to say is call quality blows, and I also get dropped calls a lot...
Update: and LTE isn't even available in most decent cities. There are only like 11 locations in the USA.
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And I can say the same about my in laws and their T-Mobile service here. But they're grandfathered in to a cheap rate even after they got smartphones last year.
Only way to find out is to test drive the service carrier for the 14 or 30 days they allow.
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I've been on AT&T since the Cingular acquisition. NY Metro area and Long Island NY, with extensive travel to other metropolitan (70%), rural (20%), and international (10%) locales. Rarely a complaint. Reasonable pricing and very accommodating customer service. They always had the newest and coolest phones, but that playing field's been kind of leveled now. I can honestly say that I don't ever plan on leaving AT&T. I've never had a problem with muting - but voicemail eliminates recorded dead airtime (not an issue to me).
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I've been on AT&T since the Cingular acquisition. NY Metro area and Long Island NY, with extensive travel to other metropolitan (70%), rural (20%), and international (10%) locales. Rarely a complaint. Reasonable pricing and very accommodating customer service. They always had the newest and coolest phones, but that playing field's been kind of leveled now. I can honestly say that I don't ever plan on leaving AT&T. I've never had a problem with muting - but voicemail eliminates recorded dead airtime (not an issue to me).
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I had LTE for 2 days a week ago on at&t on long island. Now it's mysteriously shut off.
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Joooin us att is fine and vzw is certainly not better. Everyone thinks att ducks but I live in a obscure town and I get lte
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AT&T LTE is on in my area and it rocks. As far as AT&T as a company, I've been with them since it was my local Bell South, then Cingular, then AT&T. Aside from a few quirks here and there, I've always been relatively satisfied and the customer service is usually pretty good.
The One X is a great device. I had the international version, which broke after 2 weeks. I sent it back to HTC America where after two months they told me it couldn't be repaired due to injunctions on importing the parts to the US, at which point they sent me the AT&T LTE version. I was naturally pissed, but that anger quickly dissipated as soon as the lady at AT&T handed me my phone and I saw the 4G LTE logo.
The more devs the better, of course we want you here!
This may be of interest to you as well the one x will be reduced to $99 with contract on July 29th that is a steal for this device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798227
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It's highly dependent on where you live. If you have AT&T LTE service where you are, it's no contest. But if you don't, or often travel to rural areas, it's more of a toss-up. Verizon simply has a bigger coverage area.
If you travel outside the US, forget Verizon. There's nothing like having your phone "just work" halfway around the world. (But do investigate AT&T's global plans if you do this a lot.)
I'm going to agree with what's been said about AT&T's customer service. I think they must have some kind of corporate inferiority complex about people leaving for Verizon, because I've found they will usually do what it takes to keep you happy.
I came from Verizon before I got an iPhone, and I never liked the degree to which they kept everything so locked down. Based on the encrypted bootloader they just slapped on their SGS3, this clearly hasn't changed.
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Customer service is pretty good also. I usually get to upgrade every 6 months just have to call and ask them and I don't even make threats to leave. They just talk to a mananger and its all good.
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Thanks for your comments guys... I'm checking into things this week... You may see me around
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Ok, can someone help me. I want to switch to Tmobile because in my area Data is 10x faster with them. I have to bring my daughters as well. I'm an Android junky, they are not. My question is, will sprint I phone 4s work on tmobile? Tmo says I have to have sprint unlock them, then I can put Tmo sim in and we're good. Is that true? Will it work on Tmo 4g? And will Sprint unlock easily? Thanks. I'm just gonna wait on the ONE to switch mine, but my kids don't know the joy of Android
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Don't think so
Sprint is on a PCS network and Tmobile uses GSM. They are totally different. You could bring an ATT IPhone to Tmoblie.
You should try to get your daughters away from those IPhones...
Good Luck
Yes, the 4S has a GSM SIM card that can be unlocked, but they're not still not going to want to let you use it on a domestic carrier - they will generally unlock for a customer in good standing for international use. Looking at some threads about people trying to get the Sprint 4S to work on T-Mobile it looks like way too much hassle requiring special equipment (at least at one point in time) and with poor results when it comes to function on T-Mobile's network. The phones also need to be jailbroken because Apple is cooperating with Sprint to not allow you to take the Sprint phone to another domestic carrier's network - this brings a whole new set of potential problems.
If you really want to try it, Google it and see what it would take on your part. Personally, I wouldn't want to do something like that with a kid's phone unless they were going to understand the process and be responsible and able to troubleshoot if things went wrong (same reason I wouldn't root a kid's phone for them without them understanding what's going on and the problems they might face and how to fix them).
Unless they're deeply invested in Apple's market, I'd sell the 4S's and get them N4's or S2's or something. This doesn't have to do with any personal dislike for iPhones - but for the fact that if you're going to go with T-Mobile their ability to get a signal and what kind of signal will depend on the local network and what work T-Mobile has done, even if you traded the Sprint models for factory unlocked ones. They may end up only ever getting 2g, they might have poor coverage due to lack of 1700MHz and more. And since they're your daughters I'd guess you want to make sure they can get a signal no matter where they are in case there's an emergency. I would explain things to them like adults - explain the reason you want to switch services and the impact on them if they choose to stay with an iPhone, show them how Android is really not all that different - teach them about making informed choices and to understand why they are making a certain choice.
Big THANKS that was the BEST Answer I could hope for
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Ok, can someone help me. I want to switch to Tmobile because in my area Data is 10x faster with them. I have to bring my daughters as well. I'm an Android junky, they are not. My question is, will sprint I phone 4s work on tmobile? Tmo says I have to have sprint unlock them, then I can put Tmo sim in and we're good. Is that true? Will it work on Tmo 4g? And will Sprint unlock easily? Thanks. I'm just gonna wait on the ONE to switch mine, but my kids don't know the joy of Android
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Nevermind...completely misread the type of phone.
Mod, please delete. Sorry!
I'm currently trying to decide which carrier to go with for the Galaxy S4. I'm leaning towards Verizon, but I'm also considering AT&T because their non-shared family plan is cheaper if you go with less minutes. But I'm worried that their service might still suck, because we were with them until a few years ago and there were a lot of dropped calls, delayed text messages, etc. They also get rated poorly in Consumer Reports and other surveys. So I'm wondering if it's worth giving it a shot and hoping their service has improved, or if I should just go with Verizon.
There are three areas specifically that my family is at the most: Princeton, NJ and Brooklyn, NY and Flushing, NY. I'd love to hear from anyone with recent experience with AT&T in or around those three areas. Any experiences from people in the general tri-state area and New York City would also be great.
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xavierfox42 said:
I live in Brooklyn and am running a SGS3 I9300 on AT&T's GoPhone service. Since it's the international version it doesn't have 4G LTE, but the 3G network is decent enough. I usually get around 2000Kb/s download when I run the Speedtest.net app.
I really don't like using AT&T though, but it's the only carrier that will work with the I9300's wireless bands, so I'm basically forced to use them or only get 2G. My next phone will be bought in the US and thus I'll be able to switch to T-Mobile or Simple Mobile or another reasonably-priced carrier. I would drop AT&T in a heartbeat if I could. I think they're easily the most evil of all the telecom companies (except maybe Comcast).
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Do you have any problems with dropped calls or other issues like that?
No, the service is fine. No real problems to speak of. As expected for a major carrier in an urban area.
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Question: I have a Nexus 5 on T-Mobile's network and would like to switch to Sprint. I know with Sprint you have to get a ICC ID (SIM Card) from Sprint. My question is will Sprint activate my phone on their $60 Unlimited Everything PREPAID plan or ANY plan what so ever? According to articles the Nexus 5 has been dropped from the BYOSD Banned list meaning we can buy the Nexus 5 from the Play Store and activate it on Sprint's Network.
I want to try the Spark Network in my area for at least a month or so. I know the general consensus is that Sprint suck, but I have liked them as a company when I was a customer and want to try this all new Spark Network and compare Speeds.
So how can I switch over? Or is it possible to switch over at all?
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I have a question too, i got a T-Mobile sim in my Nexus 5 under about Phone it shows IMEI
but when i stick a Sprint sim will it show ESN?
If you're thinking Sprint you ought to look at Ting. Same network (yes, Spark) but lower costs.
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Question: I have a Nexus 5 on T-Mobile's network and would like to switch to Sprint. I know with Sprint you have to get a ICC ID (SIM Card) from Sprint. My question is will Sprint activate my phone on their $60 Unlimited Everything PREPAID plan or ANY plan what so ever? According to articles the Nexus 5 has been dropped from the BYOSD Banned list meaning we can buy the Nexus 5 from the Play Store and activate it on Sprint's Network.
I want to try the Spark Network in my area for at least a month or so. I know the general consensus is that Sprint suck, but I have liked them as a company when I was a customer and want to try this all new Spark Network and compare Speeds.
So how can I switch over? Or is it possible to switch over at all?
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Stay away from Sprint. Nothing but problems with them and the Nexus 5. Go with AT&T or see if you can go with their subsidary, AIO Wireless... Seriously, do not go with Sprint, you will be sorry if you do!
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If you're thinking Sprint you ought to look at Ting. Same network (yes, Spark) but lower costs.
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Interesting! I was hoping not to do that but will research them. Thanks
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I would but AIO doesn't have unlimited data from what I'm hearing. Is that correct. Have you experienced AIO?
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dymetrice1 said:
I would but AIO doesn't have unlimited data from what I'm hearing. Is that correct. Have you experienced AIO?
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AIO does have unlimited data
Unlimited Data
Up to 4G LTE speeds with compatible device (speeds reduced when you use up your high-speed allowance)
So for the 55$ Plan the High Speed data is 2GB after 2GB its 2G speeds
gsteelx said:
Stay away from Sprint. Nothing but problems with them and the Nexus 5. Go with AT&T or see if you can go with their subsidary, AIO Wireless... Seriously, do not go with Sprint, you will be sorry if you do!
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Can you link to some of these supposed problems?
I run my Nexus 5 on Ting (which runs on Sprint's network) and I have had zero problems whatsoever.
MasterTec said:
Can you link to some of these supposed problems?
I run my Nexus 5 on Ting (which runs on Sprint's network) and I have had zero problems whatsoever.
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Here is one (of many) doing a Google search.
https://community.sprint.com/baw/message/676757
plus a thread I started... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570111
If you are having a good experience, thats great, but I still, would tell people to stay away from Sprint. I feel as though they make promises they can't keep.
gsteelx said:
Here is one (of many) doing a Google search.
https://community.sprint.com/baw/message/676757
plus a thread I started... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570111
If you are having a good experience, thats great, but I still, would tell people to stay away from Sprint. I feel as though they make promises they can't keep.
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OK so you had the unfortunate luck of having a defective SIM card and a tower near your home that was being fixed. After both were corrected you stated that you were very happy but then a couple of weeks later you claim to be tired of sprints BS without giving any other details.
Yeah.. definitely more of an isolated event than a company problem. Are some people with Nexus 5 phones having LTE problems? Yes it sure seems like it. Are some people with other phones having LTE problems? I think it's very safe to say that is probably the case as well.
You have to remember that for every one person on these boards that complain about their service there are probably tens of thousands of others who have had no issues whatsoever. So for you to just come straight out and state such a strong statement "Seriously, do not go with Sprint, you will be sorry if you do" based only on your personal experience, which you didn't even bother to explain at the time of that post, is in my opinion flat out incompetent and naive.
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OK so you had the unfortunate luck of having a defective SIM card and a tower near your home that was being fixed. After both were corrected you stated that you were very happy but then a couple of weeks later you claim to be tired of sprints BS without giving any other details.
Yeah.. definitely more of an isolated event than a company problem. Are some people with Nexus 5 phones having LTE problems? Yes it sure seems like it. Are some people with other phones having LTE problems? I think it's very safe to say that is probably the case as well.
You have to remember that for every one person on these boards that complain about their service there are probably tens of thousands of others who have had no issues whatsoever. So for you to just come straight out and state such a strong statement "Seriously, do not go with Sprint, you will be sorry if you do" based only on your personal experience, which you didn't even bother to explain at the time of that post, is in my opinion flat out incompetent and naive.
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Buddy, I am not going to argue with you. As I stated (on the OTHER thread you quoted me on) I am entitled in my opinion, and will share it with whomever I feel.
I feel that you being on Ting is a stupid idea, but you probably think its great. You probably think signing a 2 year is stupid, but, I would take that over anything. We can agree to disagree all day long, nothing can change that.
Thats the great thing about opinions my man, we all have them, and thankfully we have the first amendment, and can speak our minds.
If people don't want to listen to me, thats fine, I won't lose any sleep at night. If I helped someone, than awesome!
That is all, nothing more, nothing less.
dymetrice1 said:
Question: I have a Nexus 5 on T-Mobile's network and would like to switch to Sprint. I know with Sprint you have to get a ICC ID (SIM Card) from Sprint. My question is will Sprint activate my phone on their $60 Unlimited Everything PREPAID plan or ANY plan what so ever? According to articles the Nexus 5 has been dropped from the BYOSD Banned list meaning we can buy the Nexus 5 from the Play Store and activate it on Sprint's Network.
I want to try the Spark Network in my area for at least a month or so. I know the general consensus is that Sprint suck, but I have liked them as a company when I was a customer and want to try this all new Spark Network and compare Speeds.
So how can I switch over? Or is it possible to switch over at all?
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Disregarding the completely useless aforementioned posts, the Nexus 5 requires the "spark" update in order to access the Sprint Spark (Clearwire TDD-LTE) network and B26 (LTE 800). Some users have been able to access a few TDD-LTE towers here and there but the vast majority of users have not been able to even with the knowledge that the site is broadcasting B41 LTE that other Spark devices (GS4T / LG G2/ etc) pick up.
In other words you'll only be accessing the PCS LTE network which are in varying stages of progress in all markets which may or may not be loaded / overloaded. So the Nexus 5 is not a device you want to use to test the "Spark" network at least until LG / Google gets the Spark update out sometime in 1Q 2014.