On several separate occasions I have been on the phone talking while surfing the web and running Google searches. All this while in 3g. Is it possible that Motorola has finally given us a cdma devise capable of simultaneous voice and data without need for 4g? If this is the case why has nobody mentioned it before. Am I the only one who has noticed this? Why was this not a main selling point at the Verizon store? Well, regardless of the answers to those questions I will say, "this phone is AWESOME"
I have been an androider with many different phones since the G1 on T-Mobile. Except for one month i made the the huge mistake of trying apple but i digress. I have also been rooting and romming since the G1. This is the first time that I have had a phone longer than a day without romming it. I have now had this phone a month and still have yet to rom it. I feel there is no need. I am getting 18hrs between charges and that's with screen on and streaming slacker radio in and out of 4g because I travel. Not a single phone that I have heard of or experienced can touch this phone on battery life or even come close for that matter. The build quality is amazing. The UI is amazing. The speed is amazing. The as of yet almost bug free android experience is amazing (only bug I have noticed is a slight lag in the keyboard while in landscape mode but, it always catches up. I type as though its not lagging at all). The display quality is amazing. Oh and by the way, after experiencing siri and all other voice activated apps. Moto voice commands is the best one ever. It actually understands what I'm saying. This is something I have known though since as far back as the bionic. The speed on this phone is amazing. The screen size on this phone is perfect. (IMO) the list of great things I can say about my experience over the last month with this device is almost endless. The main focus of this thread is for others to express their opinions of the phone and to acknowledge the fact that this phone is capable of simultaneous voice and data while in 3g.
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I didn't understand.
You're saying you ccan talk on your phone while on 4G? Or you're saying it stays stable while doing both surfing and talking?
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I do think it's an awesome phone and without need tom change to any custom ROM. I think...
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I didn't understand.
You're saying you ccan talk on your phone while on 4G? Or you're saying it stays stable while doing both surfing and talking?
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I do think it's an awesome phone and without need tom change to any custom ROM. I think...
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I think he is saying he was about to do voice and data at the same time while his phone was reporting it was on 3G, not 4G.
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I think he is saying he was about to do voice and data at the same time while his phone was reporting it was on 3G, not 4G.
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VZW has had phones that can do simultaneous voice and data on 3G before. HTC Rezound comes to mind, and I am sure it is not the only one...
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VZW has had phones that can do simultaneous voice and data on 3G before. HTC Rezound comes to mind, and I am sure it is not the only one...
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Thunderbolt could do it too. I think it was the first VZW phone that could.
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Thunderbolt could do it too. I think it was the first VZW phone that could.
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Yeah, forgot about that one.
I noticed this also. I think it's great.
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VZW has had phones that can do simultaneous voice and data on 3G before. HTC Rezound comes to mind, and I am sure it is not the only one...
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HTC has been doing it since the unveiling of their 1st 4g phone. They do it by including two separate antennas. This is the first Motorola device to do it though. I just think it should have been talked about more. Sales guy didn't even tell me about it when I was torn between this or the gsiii.
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IIRC, my bionic did it as well!
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HTC has been doing it since the unveiling of their 1st 4g phone. They do it by including two separate antennas. This is the first Motorola device to do it though. I just think it should have been talked about more. Sales guy didn't even tell me about it when I was torn between this or the gsiii.
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I believe the EVO 4G was the first 4G phone ever and it was from HTC. It couldn't do data and voice while on 3G but it could while on 4G.
I'm almost certain that this has nothing to do with 3g/4g and more about the radios that are used. Similar to how the verizon iPhone 5 is incapable out the box of simultaneous voice and data because of how they utilized the radio.
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IIRC, my bionic did it as well!
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I had a bionic. It was a piece of crap. It did simultaneous voice and data only in 4G mode not 3G. This I know for a fact. As far as the one who said that the epic 4G was incapable of this, yes you are right it was. I should have been more specific and pointed out that I was referring to Verizon only as I am not a sprint customer.
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I'm almost certain that this has nothing to do with 3g/4g and more about the radios that are used. Similar to how the verizon iPhone 5 is incapable out the box of simultaneous voice and data because of how they utilized the radio.
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On a 3G CDMA network the only way to achieve simultaneous voice and data is by providing with two antennas so that while one is being utilized for voice the other can maintain data. There is no way to achieve this with only firmware (ex. Radio file) that is written to do so. You must have the second antenna as well as properly written firmware. The iPhone 5 is a different bowl of wax. The phone isn't capable of this even while connected via LTE because the firmware was written in such a way to prevent it even though LTE is natively designed to do so. So in closing it can be disabled solely with firmware on a capable network but, not enabled solely with firmware on an incapable network.
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Wait a second, let me make sure I understand this correctly... You're saying the iphone5 can't talk and data at the same time? This was a huge selling point for previous iphones, why would they do away with it? Other than to save room in the device to make it smaller, I understand that, but you would think they would want to keep the phone technologically up-to-date (or at least up-to-date with the ancestor devices...)
I always knew Apple was a joke. This is just reason # I-Lost-Count.
iPhone 5 on GSM can do data and voice simultaneously. Only CDMA carriers like Verizon suffer from the problem.
Apple didn't want to put an extra antenna in it because they said it will mess with their design... so they left it out.
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Can someone tell me why is not possible or whether it is possible to browse the web while talking on the phone with Android.
Thanks!
P.S. I have a Droid Incredible...rooted...running MIUI rom ;-)
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I can with my Droid X, with any rom.
Verizon iPhone can't
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Verizon iPhone can't
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That's limitations on Verizon's network, not the Iphone. There isn't a whole lot of phones on Verizon you can talk and surf the web at the same time.
I can on my desire, but tend to drop my coffee as I'm driving my car though.
Desire is the source of all suffering.
MOD EDIT: Relax. No need to get angry.
It's pretty bad. I know that much. I had an original Droid before on Verizon, but I got tired of paying so much for so little.
Got ears in your mouth now?
Awesome.
I had the dinc and was able to browse the web while talking on the fone just fine via wifi
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I had the dinc and was able to browse the web while talking on the fone just fine via wifi
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That's a different story. You're not using your mobile network for data at that time, just for calling.
CDMA doesn't allow the use of data and voice at the same time. They use CDMA for calls and EV-DO for data.
AT&T and TMobile are the able to because they use GSM vs. Sprint and Verizon's CDMA. It has nothing to do with the phones.
I do it all the time. On my RootedHTCDesireZ
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I mean seriously when does one surf the web and talk same time?
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LOL way to funny
As stated above, the inability to use both voice and data at the same time is a limitation of a CDMA network (Verizon). It has nothing to do with the phone. Because of this, if you want to do voice and data at the same time, the only way of doing so, is via WiFi, so that your "data" can be done through WiFi as opposed to the carrier network.
But honestly, how often do you really need both at the same time? I consider myself to be a fairly heavy power user on my phone, and still rarely run into a situation where I need both at the same time.
Luckily for you though, Verizon's 4G (LTE) does have the ability to do voice and data at the same time.
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AT&T and TMobile are the able to because they use GSM vs. Sprint and Verizon's CDMA. It has nothing to do with the phones.
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CDMA doesn't allow the use of data and voice at the same time. They use CDMA for calls and EV-DO for data.
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As stated above, the inability to use both voice and data at the same time is a limitation of a CDMA network (Verizon). It has nothing to do with the phone. Because of this, if you want to do voice and data at the same time, the only way of doing so, is via WiFi, so that your "data" can be done through WiFi as opposed to the carrier network.
But honestly, how often do you really need both at the same time? I consider myself to be a fairly heavy power user on my phone, and still rarely run into a situation where I need both at the same time.
Luckily for you though, Verizon's 4G (LTE) does have the ability to do voice and data at the same time.
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Bingo. "4G" (LTE and WiMax, as well as HSPA+) will allow you to do it for. Also, being on Wifi will let you do it.
But I mean, I don't understand why people want to do both at the same time anyways.
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But I mean, I don't understand why people want to do both at the same time anyways.
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I would have thought the same a few weeks ago but the other day I was calling a friend (I was on speaker) and needed to search on the web something that we were talking about. Impossible. That's how I understood that it could be useful to be able to do the two things at the same time
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If I'm tethering (because my client has a locked down network I can't get on with my laptop) and talking to my boss (weekly meeting), I may need to look things up.
I've done that and simply been looking things up while on my headset with my wife....
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Can someone tell me why is not possible or whether it is possible to browse the web while talking on the phone with Android.
Thanks!
P.S. I have a Droid Incredible...rooted...running MIUI rom ;-)
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3g cdma networks can not do voice & data simultaneously. if you have wifi on and are on a call/the phone, then you can(i can). if you have a 4g connection and are on a call/the phone, you can(i can)
Both phandroid and Droid life have confirmed that this phone will not only do data and voice over 4g but 3g as well. Yeah! Just another thing to be excited about
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No. simultaneous data and voice is not possible over cdma. They are both wrong. What might happen is voice will go over cdma and data over lte or both will transmit over lte. If you live in an area without lte, you are out of luck.
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how is it possible?
since the new iPhone 4 will do it apperntly they have figured out a way to do it, and you guys only think its not possible because thats what verizon has aalways said, and ven if it doesnt, who the hell cares, who wants to talk and look at the web at the same time
What should work and should not and why (I work on the network)
Ok, I am an engineer working on VZW's network, as well as in the past worked on GSM stuff as well. The reason that VZW could not do voice and data at the same time is because CDMA voice, 1xRTT data, 2G voice, 3G voice, EVDO REV0 and REVA all use the same channel groupes. VZW uses channels 283, 242, 201, 160, 78, 37, and 1019 in the 800 A Band, and with Alltel Acquisition now has 466, 548, 589, and so fourth, the PCS spectrum is abundant too. The LTE is on 700 mhz so uses a different set of radios so could in theory run it at the same time as voice since it would use the other radios to do it. Thats the reason it can work but if they write the software to do it is another thing. They might not because of battery life, would be like running 2 phones off the same battery at the same time. The iPhone will not do it because it will not be LTE ;-)
You could be entirely right as I'm not an engineer for Verizon so I'm not sure, just going off of info based on what I believe I read on one of the android blogs. You can actually talk and surf at the same time. All you need is speakerphobe or headphones ans I wifi connection lol. But I'm pretty sure that anyone on these forums knows that;-)
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I don't know how exactly, but I've been told that you will be able to do simultaneous voice and data on 3g but they are not advertising it because you can only use 1X data.
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cant be done
Haha again I believe you. But I know a little dirt secret if you are close to a wifi router.
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great news this is awesome. Suck it ATT!
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Fixed your quote for you, one word SVDO.
I wonder if they're doing VOIP trick so they are techinally only doing data alone.
There's nothing prevent HTC from directing the phone dialer through their own VOIP applicaiton.
Also, the iPhone on verizon will not be doing simultaneous voice/data.
So, this is like when you are talking to someone on the phone, you are able to look up stuff like on Maps and all that right?
If Its what I am thinking of..I am able to do that on my Eris(albeit, it is rooted..but..)
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Fixed your quote for you, one word SVDO.
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That's a pretty fancy trick. Run the voice call on the 1X and leave the EVDO open for the data...I like it.
I hate to tell u this but I can almost promise you that your Eris can only do it when your wifi is on. I have a rooted Eris in my hand running kaos froyo as we speak, it will NOT do it unless wifi is on.
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I hate to tell u this but I can almost promise you that your Eris can only do it when your wifi is on. I have a rooted Eris in my hand running kaos froyo as we speak, it will NOT do it unless wifi is on.
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You in the wrong forum by any chance? We're talking about the Thundebolt here not the Droid Eris.
He was probably referring to my post
and yes I know that.
Family Guy: I was referring to your post, I just had a huge argument with a Guy in the Eris forums about this exact issue. He insisted that kaos froyo would do both. I insisted that there Is nothing that kaos could do or anyone else to make data and voice work over 3g on any Verizon phone that is currently being sold. And he insisted that his Eris would. I asked him if his wifi was on, he insisted that wifi and 3g wouldn't run at the same time. Anyway, this went on for like 20 private messages and I finally agreed that he has the only Verizon EVER Has ever sold. It could be worth millions. Again, sorry if I sound like a ****. No harm intended. Can't wait for the ****ing thunderbolt.
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Oh thats hilarious!
Yeah. You will see the Guy I ended up going through the argument with in one ofbthe kaos threads. It all started with him saying that his rooted Eris smoke his all his friends DInc's and lets be honest, if u have ever played with both, you know that's not an accurate statement. On a positive note, you guys check out some YouTube videos of the second Gen. Snapdragon processors, damn!!! They were smoking!!! There is a video on android forums or phone arena with the thunderbolt getting a 2150 with no task killer and that's pretty damn good. I know the entire stigma aelround benchmarks as I've been around here for a while(700+ post) but it takes a fast phone to get that without a "lagfix" synthetically driving up scores
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Anyone notice that you can Talk+Surf at the same time when on 3G-mode ???
I noticed this the other day when their 4G was down for the entire day!!
This is the only Verizon phone that can do it!!!
Yes sir, that is one of cool features of VZW's LTE network.
Although I rarely use it, it is nice to have
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Yes sir, that is one of cool features of VZW's LTE network.
Although I rarely use it, it is nice to have
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Agreed since I never really use my phone for talking I find very little need but it really just gives me another reason to love this amazing phone.
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The reason we are able to do it on 3G as well is because the Thunderbolt has two different antennas. One is for the LTE/3G and one is for the 1X/Text messaging. Because it has the two different ones that's why we will be able to talk and surf. The Bionic may be cancelled because the antennae is not working well with the tegra. And the Samsung Charge will only be able to talk and surf in a 4G area. If you are on 3G you won't be able to talk and surf. So it's a cool feature that hTc has right now. The information is based off of the review of the ThunderBolt below with a couple of bits from what I have been reading.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4240/htc-thunderbolt-review-first-verizon-4g-lte-smartphone
My friend says he can talk and surf on his Verizon iPhone
Luke
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My friend says he can talk and surf on his Verizon iPhone
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Then he's lying. Unless he's using WiFi
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I just realized this yesterday, and it made me SO happy! I've got mad love for my T-Bolt right now!
blackmanx (Twitter's most popular Verizon network engineer) said it was because the Bolt uses SVDO instead of EVDO for it's 3G. This makes it possible to talk and surf at the same time over 3G. So the Bolt is only using the one radio when talking and surfing on 3G
As for 4G, LTE uses a separate radio, but LTE allows for this simultaneous function anyway
And no, the Verizon iPhone very much cannot use this functionality, nor can any other phone currently on Verizon's lineup. You need to go to a GSM network if you want this on any other phone when using 3G
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The reason we are able to do it on 3G as well is because the Thunderbolt has two different antennas. One is for the LTE/3G and one is for the 1X/Text messaging. Because it has the two different ones that's why we will be able to talk and surf. The Bionic may be cancelled because the antennae is not working well with the tegra. And the Samsung Charge will only be able to talk and surf in a 4G area. If you are on 3G you won't be able to talk and surf. So it's a cool feature that hTc has right now. The information is based off of the review of the ThunderBolt below with a couple of bits from what I have been reading.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4240/htc-thunderbolt-review-first-verizon-4g-lte-smartphone
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So does this mean that our calls don't ever go through 3GEV or LTE, and always 1x?
Reason I ask, is in the 2 weeks that I had the TBolt, the clarity of my calls seem inferior compared to my nexus one on T-Mo 3G, like the person on the other end sounds muffled. Not sure about others, but thats been my experience so far.
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Anyone notice that you can Talk+Surf at the same time when on 3G-mode ???
I noticed this the other day when their 4G was down for the entire day!!
This is the only Verizon phone that can do it!!!
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Proud of you
actually it IS possible. but only on the eHRPD network. it is 3G and you can talk and surf. The thunderbolt is the only device with it that i know of. you dont need to be in 4G LTE area to get it.
Trust me, I don't want it. Samsung build quality and rfl sounds like a horrible experience. But with the release comes another 4g lte phone. I think some knowledge can be shared of the 4g. Maybe helping us TB owners progress with our 4g experience.
Personally I think it's cool to think if I had one I could just swap sim cards lol. (Sims FTW)
What do you think?
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4g help with the ril is a good reason (just kidding of course slayher is doing a great job!). Basically just more of a push to improve the 4g network.
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While you would hope you could just swap sim cards, it wont give you voice calling. You have to call Verizon and give them the cdma info to get it working. Now maybe once they start doing VO-LTE then we will have a sim swap situation, but there is no telling if that will be available on the bolt, claimed to be possible on the LG.
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While you would hope you could just swap sim cards, it wont give you voice calling. You have to call Verizon and give them the cdma info to get it working. Now maybe once they start doing VO-LTE then we will have a sim swap situation, but there is no telling if that will be available on the bolt, claimed to be possible on the LG.
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Wrong, its plug and play my friend
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While you would hope you could just swap sim cards, it wont give you voice calling. You have to call Verizon and give them the cdma info to get it working. Now maybe once they start doing VO-LTE then we will have a sim swap situation, but there is no telling if that will be available on the bolt, claimed to be possible on the LG.
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I know store reps rarely know anything true but I was told switching your sim into a different 4G Verizon phone will switch all services. Cell phone companies can now tell what kind of phones sims are in so I'd be surprised if the CDMA info didn't automatically change. But I wouldn't want that ugly charge anyway. How does samsung hit a home run on the infuse's design but release this crap at the same time?
Hmm Im very curious, Later I might swap SIMs between my moms TB and mine and see what happens, Ill test CDMA and LTE.
It was my understanding that the sim cards were only working for the one phone, and even going to another TB (like for a replacement) was requiring a new SIM card.
That was when the TB was just released, it might have changed though.
What's up with the false advertising?
I received an email today that states:
THE FASTEST, MOST POWERFUL DROID. Brace yourself for what Droid does now.
Introducing the Droid Charge™ by Samsung,
the first Droid built for 4G LTE.
Download movies in minutes, share photos in seconds
Multitask with simultaneous voice, data and mobile hotspot
Experience mobile video calling with front- and
rear-facing cameras
See clearly in sunlight with Super AMOLED™ Plus screen
The only thing better about this phone, as far as I can tell, is the AMOLED screen.
It is definitely not the fastest, the most powerful, or first Droid built for 4G LTE!
camiot said:
I received an email today that states:
THE FASTEST, MOST POWERFUL DROID. Brace yourself for what Droid does now.
Introducing the Droid Charge™ by Samsung,
the first Droid built for 4G LTE.
Download movies in minutes, share photos in seconds
Multitask with simultaneous voice, data and mobile hotspot
Experience mobile video calling with front- and
rear-facing cameras
See clearly in sunlight with Super AMOLED™ Plus screen
The only thing better about this phone, as far as I can tell, is the AMOLED screen.
It is definitely not the fastest, the most powerful, or first Droid built for 4G LTE!
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We have HTC thunder bolts Samsung has the droid charge. We don't have officially licenced droids. Which is fine with me. Too many words in the name.
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It was my understanding that the sim cards were only working for the one phone, and even going to another TB (like for a replacement) was requiring a new SIM card.
That was when the TB was just released, it might have changed though.
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Nope. I've had two replacement TBs and just popping the old SIM in the new phone sets everything up. There is no calling to activate or any of that crap. It's really nice actually.
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Nope. I've had two replacement TBs and just popping the old SIM in the new phone sets everything up. There is no calling to activate or any of that crap. It's really nice actually.
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1+ same here
Finally Verizon did something good
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You think that the *****ing about the TB is bad? I am sure people will have a lot of things to cry about with the Charge.
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Have you been over to that forum? It is a mess!
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Have you been over to that forum? It is a mess!
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Most are these days...
broadwayblues said:
It was my understanding that the sim cards were only working for the one phone, and even going to another TB (like for a replacement) was requiring a new SIM card.
That was when the TB was just released, it might have changed though.
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To add to what everyone else is saying, I've had a replacement and they even let me keep both phones for 5 days. I switched back and forth 20 or so times to see which one got better 4G coverage.
The catch is, if you SELL your TB, the new guy has to get a new SIM card.
My mother just got the Charge and it is a pretty decent phone. Nice having a phone that doesn't need a bulky extended battery to get now than four hours of use. The screen is stunning.
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I get great battery life on my tb. Of course after rooting and flashing das bamf. At least 13 hours with moderate to heavy usage.
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I've heard RFS is better on battery.
Too bad it cuts the balls off the device.
I was just out and about and I stopped by the verizon store to look at the charge. All I can say is that I was not impressed. Compared to my TB, the charge felt like I was holding a toy in my hand. I even compared it to all of the demo TB's on the store and I felt the same. I played a few games and watched some videos on it and I dint see anything special about the screen either
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I checked out the Charge today. I always thought it was fugly in photos, but it doesn't look that bad in person. I prefer amoled screens, and I'd take amoled over any lcd out there. And even though it is mostly plastic, it didn't feel as cheap & flimsy as my old Captivate. If the battery is as strong as the reviews suggest, I may get one when some roms are available
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So I'm one of the lucky ones who live in San Antonio and will be getting the true ATT 4G upgrade. Just wondering if the Inspire will be supported.
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Inspire cannot get LTE
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you'll have to wait for the holiday.... htc holiday, that is
Everything I have read online has said that the Inspire is NOT compatible with LTE.......yet I have asked 3 different AT&T reps in 3 different AT&T stores, and every one of them guaranteed me that it WILL be LTE compatible......
Based on all the info online I assume they are wrong....
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Everything I have read online has said that the Inspire is NOT compatible with LTE.......yet I have asked 3 different AT&T reps in 3 different AT&T stores, and every one of them guaranteed me that it WILL be LTE compatible......
Based on all the info online I assume they are wrong....
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Duh! I would tell you anything to buy something. Problem with you consumers. You have the internet at your finger tips, and are to dumb to do some research before you buy.
It doesn't have an lte radio, nor the software. A lot (not all) att reps have no idea what they are talking about.
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Duh! I would tell you anything to buy something. Problem with you consumers. You have the internet at your finger tips, and are to dumb to do some research before you buy.
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Yeah I knew the answer before I asked...just wanted to see what kind of response I would get....I even tried to push the issue...asking if they were positive and so on. In one case I got the manager involved, and I believe his exact words were "sir I can assure you, this phone is compatible with all of AT&T's future 4g networks"
I wonder if they actually believe that, or if corporate simply tell them to lie there a$$'s off......!
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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trell959 said:
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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What. Where did you see this. i wanna lolololol
trell959 said:
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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Well sure, if you wanna get in there and solder in a chipset and scare up cobbled drivers, isn't any phone?
Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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Two things ...
1) ATT is lying - well sort of. They can get away with it because their definition of 4G is very broad. When they say LTE they actually mean HSDPA.
2) The folks in the store are indoctrinated by the company so they believe the Inspire is LTE as well.
I'd love to be proven wrong but unfortunately the Inspire is H+ only (HSDPA).
tribestros said:
Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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It doesn't take a genius to figure out:
1: LTE tech is still brand new, and very few select phones have the hardware to support it. (All verizon phones)
2: The Inspire 4G is a Desire HD without an FFC. The Desire HD does not have support for LTE, therefor, we can assume this as well on the inspire 4G
When AT&T talk about 4G, they make sure they include an asterisk* and the details will follow in the tiny text. We get 4G like speeds assuming they complete the backhaul, but no LTE. We'd need hardware for that.
tribestros said:
Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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What part of it not having an lte radio is so hard to understand...it just doeant have one. Look at the specs on htc no where on that page does it say lte, then look at the thunderbolt oh wow under specs it lists lte.... What were you saying about us knowing more then developers? Apparently htc dosent even know their phone is lte capable. Really........
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Pretty sure its impossible. Our snapdragon chips don't have the capability to support true lte. I'm pretty sure the thunderbolts SoC is a little bit different(lte support)
tribestros said:
Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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Well, seeing that Geek Squad told my buddy that Bittorrent caused the demise of his <6 month old hard drive in his PC, I'm not sure how much I'll trust BestBuy's "official" info. kthxbai
alex4lex said:
It doesn't take a genius to figure out:
1: LTE tech is still brand new, and very few select phones have the hardware to support it. (All verizon phones)
2: The Inspire 4G is a Desire HD without an FFC. The Desire HD does not have support for LTE, therefor, we can assume this as well on the inspire 4G
When AT&T talk about 4G, they make sure they include an asterisk* and the details will follow in the tiny text. We get 4G like speeds assuming they complete the backhaul, but no LTE. We'd need hardware for that.
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The Desire HD does not have a front facing camera. The Inspire and DHD are almost exact clones. The only thing different is the logo on the back.
trell959 said:
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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Actually, this is the official ATT page for the Inspire 4g.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...re+(TM)+4G*&q_sku=sku5100284#fbid=ZSGfIgw7m3E
If you scroll near the very bottom, Technical Specifications section, lower left corner it says, "4G* - HSPA+/LTE: HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul." No where does it say it is LTE compatible. Also, that little asterisk leads you to this, like someone mentioned earlier, "*4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul. Available in limited areas. Availability increasing with ongoing backhaul deployment. Requires 4G device and compatible data plan. Learn more at att.com/network."
Would be nice if that's possible, but it's not with this phone. But I'll have to wait 2 more years anyways to be able to upgrade again, haha.
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I make a habit of changing my phone every 2 years as a rule. By then maybe AT&T may have their LTE in par with Verizon. It really doesn't matter with my paltry 200mb account anyway, whether I use it with 1 to 2 megabit at a time or 9 to10 megabit at a time.