HTC meh - T-Mobile LG G2x

This is offtopic i know but felt like discussing about HTC. Lately HTC been doing a lot of stupid things and making bad decisions imo anyways. Non-removable battery, taking away external sdcard support(some phones) opting for thinner phones over better battery life, and now this.. http://androidandme.com/2012/04/smartphones-2/htc-is-moving-away-from-qwerty-keyboard-phones/
My first phone was the OG T-mobile G1 and i still consider it one of the best phones ever made not just because it was a solid phone that HTC built and T-mobile released but because XDA made it into so much more of a useful phone then it could ever have been without devs. There will always be room for Keyboard phones, I was really really hoping/begging HTC would make the G3 with some killer specs and it's awesome keyboard combo, but it looks like HTC wants nothing to do with it anymore.
Really HTC if they wanna impress us they need to quit making phones that have horrible battery life, thinner is not gonna be better. Hell were talking a difference of maybe 1 or 2 less mm in a phone when all we care about is a better battery life, quit giving us 1500-1800mah batteries and dish out some 2500-3000+ battery that will last at least throughout the day or two.
HTC "Thin is not in B**** i like my girls with a little bit of meat on their bones lol
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I had the same reaction. HTC has always made the best qwerty phones, my vision is a great phone and my Rhodium is still one of the best phones ever released.
This is almost as bad at AT&T mangling the one X by reducing the number of cores and the onboard memory just to shove LTE on board. LTE is nice but personally 90% of my data usage is on wifi and the rest is just email and light browsing when I travel so its not a real selling point for me.
Give me a phone that is buttery smooth and last a day or more, if you can also throw a keyboard on there then I'll take two.
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I remember my first HTC phone, it was the HTC HD2 which had android on it. I spent $350 US for it. It stopped working on me 1 month after the 1year warranty expired. The touch screen stopped working because they placed the ribbon cable under the "end" button. Apparently is a common issue with the phone.
I swore never to buy another HTC phone again.
Removing the sd card and put in an non exchangeable battery...Iphone much?
Thats one of the reason Im using android. My G2X can last me all day. With the 1550MAh battery I had to charge twice but with my 3500Mah battery from 9am to 12am on mid usage i would have 20% left
Anyway, I don't care what HTC does anymore.

I too am a hard keyboard lover. My first experience with HTC was probably the vougue. Although it had no keyboard I fell in love with the little bit of sense that was incorporated on it. Then I went to touch pro and touch pro2. I absolutely loved the keyboards. From then i went to EVO 4G and now evo3d. Although I like the keyboards I think HTC is still a solid phone and can do without the keyboard if I have to.
The new EVO LTE coming to Sprint once again has no keyboard but they are making it with a removable battery and micro SD card acceptable. Don't think the gsm models are the same. I am disappointed that they didn't leave the quad core in it but it is what it is
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I think we just need a big breakthrough with battery technology.
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I think we just need a big breakthrough with battery technology.
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I'm sorry zoppp but that is like saying "we just need a cure for cancer, somebody get to work."
The problem with technology is that yesterdays big breakthrough is today's outdated technology. Mobile phones have become more personal than the personal computer so there will never be a one size fits all solution. If there were we would all be stuck with iOS.
I like my Samsung focus, its slim, has a nice screen, it's light and the battery last all day. Its also made of cheap, creaky plastic that I despise at the same time.
Personally I think a little more heft is ok when the phone has a 'quality' feel to it. I also think its ok when I get a nice physical keyboard. If the phone weighed a little more but lasted 2 days that would be phenomenal too, it just can't weigh 5 lbs if it wants to be in my pocket...
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New to Android, which phone should I pick?

About a week ago I decided that it's time to give up iPhone and try something new. I was checking the HTC Wildfire and thought that it would be an okay first Android phone, and also I can buy a brand new one when I've sold my iPhone 3GS 32GB. But then I started to look at auctions and such, and I saw that ppl actually want to trade their HTC Desires and Nexus Ones for a iPhone 3GS. And now I don't know if I should, once again, get something used or if I should for once buy something brand new. I also like that the Wildfire is a tad smaller than the iPhone, but the screen and power on the Desire seems a lot better. The Nexus One seems pretty decent, too.
I'm also afraid that the response on the screen of the Wildfire will be lower since it will be a budget phone. And in my understanding the Desire seems like a updated knock-off of the Nexus One?
So I would appreciate some help with this, since I have no experience with Android phones. Never even held one.
And if I was to get a Desire or N1, then I could get it tomorrow or so.
Thanks!
HTC Desire! The desire is not a knock off of the Nexus One, the Nexus One was handled by Google and HTC. The Desire is handled by HTC's own design team, and own interface, and its own support. IMO it loks better then the nexus one because of the trackpad.
Yeah, the Desire is looking more and more interesting. And since people really want to trade without any money in between, it doesn't seem like such a bad deal.
Plus, it has Sense UI.
The Desire is very appealing but I think I'm holding out for the HTC Vision ( a Desire with a hardware slide out keyboard) , hopefully it will have a better camera though.
I could end up waiting forever if I'm always wanting something slightly better than what is available. Tis lucky I'm still happy with my Hero, still will be for the next 3 - 6 months I reckon.
You've already made the best decision by going with Android.
A friend told me to buy HTC Legend, but I think he only likes the name. Is it any good?
Nexus 1 is freedom. And the optical pad isn't nearly as nice on the desire that I had on my xperia x1.
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Nexus 1 is freedom. And the optical pad isn't nearly as nice on the desire that I had on my xperia x1.
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So with a Nexus One I can pretty much do what I want?
EDIT: Oh, and how about the battery life? That is something I really hate with the iPhone. I'm a frequent user of my phone and the iPhone barely lasts a day (read around 16hrs).
Evo battery life blows
If you don't like bad batteries, you should stay away from the Evo. I unfortunately don't live in a 4G network, but my battery still gets drained. It's probably because I'm playing with the phone so much though. I've gotten about 10-11 hours of battery using some wi-fi, messing around with apps, sending lots of texts, taking some pics, playing back media, and streaming some stuff (but never for long periods of time, more like just showing a ton of people the different features).
I have a suspicion there's no way around a bad battery when you have a gorgeous, HUGE screen to power up.
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I have a suspicion there's no way around a bad battery when you have a gorgeous, HUGE screen to power up.
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Yeah, that is probably true. My gf's iPhone 3G lasts about 2-3 days, but she barely touches it except when she's listening to music on her 10 minute walk to school. Also she has roaming and such turned off.
EDIT: And it looks like I've found someone willing to trade their HTC Desire for my iPhone. :O Maybe even give me a few pounds since the device had some scratches on a corner.
This is a very easy debate and can be solved by 1 word only.
Froyo.
The nexus one has it, no one else does.
Also the Sense UI is very will known to slow down your phone. Personally I also do not like the look over it and prefer the stock UI of android.
like jz said, the nexus one is Google's baby. Google makes android. Therefore its safe to say the N1 will always be out front of any android device, and will likely have less bugs. I have the htc hero and while I do love it, I wish I researched first and got T-Mobile and the N1.
the evo for sprint
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This is a very easy debate and can be solved by 1 word only.
Froyo.
The nexus one has it, no one else does.
Also the Sense UI is very will known to slow down your phone. Personally I also do not like the look over it and prefer the stock UI of android.
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+1 The Nexus & Froyo is a powerful combo!
Got a Desire yesterday. Even got £20 (guess I could've gotten more) between.
And i'm happy with the device so far.
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Right now... get the Galaxy S
for android... get the EVO !
Just had a play with the Desire - wow is simply the way to describe it.
Leaves the other phones for dead and makes the current Iphone look sick imo.
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Got a Desire yesterday. Even got £20 (guess I could've gotten more) between.
And i'm happy with the device so far.
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Would be interested to hear how you get on, am thinking the same, have an Iphone....can we have a fair, honest review on your change from Iphone to Desire ?
I'm not really good at writing reviews, but I'll write something short and then you can ask questions!
I've now had the Desire for two days and I'm starting to get the hang of it. It's really different from an iPhone (no ****). I think it would have been easier/better to have a PC for this Device (or any other Android I guess) since there seem to bee some problem connecting it with the macbook. But maybe I just haven't found the best software yet.
The phone is very nice. I like the big screen and how clear it looks. The touch is working better than expected. But I think I need to recalibrate the touch since I need to click a bit higher than I would want to on buttons at the top of the screen. Otherwise it's probably as good at touch as the iPhone. Don't really feel any real difference.
I had some problem with the phone unlocking in my pocket, but I put in a lock combination to prevent that.
The battery life is about the same as the iPhone. I think at least. Hard to tell since I've been using the phone a lot these two days.
Hmm... what else? Oh, I like the keyboard better. But that's probably because of the bigger screen, thus the bigger keyboard.
And of course the Android Market doesn't have the quality of the App Store. But that's understandable.
Ask questions! It's much easier two answer than to write reviews.
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Should i trade My Captivate for Desire Z?

As the title says it, should i trade it for desire z? ive read some stuff online, like i know captivate has an amazing screen, looks good, bigger screen , samoled, but the thing is it sells for less like 350$ if your lucky.. should i do it?
Should i wear the Blue Shirt or the Green Shirt?
green btw b honest lol .
I, personally, would take the trade. I prefer the look and feel of the Desire Z (though the keys are a bit small), and being an HTC device, it tends to have a much larger community following/support (like cyanogenmod and the like)... but that's just my opinion on it
inital rooting and stuff is a bit more in-depth than captivate but it is totally doable and had many of the same options. i originally was going to get the Z because it has keyboard too. after looking into the extra crap i was kind of releaved. check out the XDA wiki on that phone for more info
I like the desire z, I'm partial to HTC products and the use of adb tools mainly because I have zero formal training in any computer training. Using adb to root has a certain wow factor for me. However I had the inspire for a week and returned it after bringing it back to stock form. I just couldn't justify paying the full retail price for it. So, now I'm back to the captivate using cog 4 and have a new renowned love for this phone. Ultimately its up to you. I personally think the captivate is a great device especially with a base froyo and GPS being fixed. Build quality would go to HTC though. I hope this helped as its a long rant.
I was really not impressed with the inspire, or sense for that matter.
After messing around with the inspire for two days and seeing how much stuff sense adds in it actually makes me feel less bad about t-wiz. With touch wiz after you delete the launcher and some samsung apk's, alls that's left is twframework which besides adding some small cosmetic stuff adds the shortcuts to the pull down menu, which I like. The inspire had more htc apks than almost the total amount of apks in my rom. There was almost 60 framework files before deodexing the inspire. The inspire is generally quick as far as cpu stuff, like app to qr. I use this app sometimes for a real life cpu task tests when testing kernels and whatnot. The inspire will generate the apps 2-3 times faster than the captivate. Despite this, the captivate just feels waaaaaay smoother and LESS laggy mostly I guess because the GPU is so much better.
i have been using my HTC Vision (Tmob G2) unlocked with my ATT card (most of my time is spent on wifi anyway) and while i absolutely love the battery life i get with the DesireZ rom on it, i hate the keyboard. i have been trying to force myself to use it more and more, but i keep wanting to go back to one of my captivates and swype....i feel the trial period wont last long now...my cappies are calling my name
Dilli, my exact feeling. That's why when I had ilthe inspire I removed sense completely. Its a beautiful fast phone with launcherpro minus the tiny battery but I could not justify the full retail price.
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Dilli, my exact feeling. That's why when I had ilthe inspire I removed sense completely. Its a beautiful fast phone with launcherpro minus the tiny battery but I could not justify the full retail price.
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Yup I did the same thing. Instead of wasting my early upgrade on a phone that's hardware is gonna be outdated very(if not already) soon when it seems like this year is gonna bring some crazy phones and cpus and whatnot. I paid the full 450 for it, returned it about a week later and bought the atrix for 400. Despite the whole bootloader issue, the atrix IS without a doubt the fastest phone I've ever used, even if the system is not fully utilizing its dual core yet, which I kinda hope its not cause when it does, its gonna be insane. And running app to qr on the atrix is even almost twice as fast as the inspire, probably 4 times faster than the captivate, plus so far is buttery smooth. The inspire was almost a tradeoff for a little bit of speed but greatly reduced smoothness. Atrix so far has both, plus I actually like the screen a lot.
wow damn, but if anything i can always sell it for more, in canada desire z sells for 400$ plus, captivate.. barley sells and its furstrating since captivate is better in aspects of screen weight and stuff and battery is better!! Inspire is the Desire HD in canada? seriously you guys didnt like that/ that looks like a sick device, anyways might go for a red torch xD sell it and add about 100$ and buy a new iphone4 front facing camera <3
I would take a captivate or an inspire for that matter any day of the week over an iphone 4. Had one of those too, along with every other iphone and was very involved in the jailbreak scene, up until I tried android. There's no way ill EVER go back to ios. This is my opinion, but ios completely sucks compared to android. You'll be bored with it in a week, even if you jailbreak. I would literally rather have a captivate on stock 2.1 than a jailbroken iphone 4
really? dont get me wrong android is nice, but i like to have that GPS option working on an iphone than not workin on a captivate + i personally dont like the touch buttons prefer the one form i9000

[Q] HTC INCREDIBLE S or HTC SENSATION

I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't ppl do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Sensation so I can't compare them both, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the sensation is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing I would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
So Guys Help me out here
I am stuck between Incredible S and Sensation cant decide which one should i buy, i am switching from Samsung Omnia and want to try Android, phone should be durable good camera good battery and should be fast enough to play games on it, i really like the customization on HTC but camera is good on Sensation
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I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't ppl do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Sensation so I can't compare them both, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the sensation is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing I would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
So Guys Help me out here
I am stuck between Incredible S and Sensation cant decide which one should i buy, i am switching from Samsung Omnia and want to try Android, phone should be durable good camera good battery and should be fast enough to play games on it, i really like the customization on HTC but camera is good on Sensation
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I say get the sensation! It has dual core and qhd. I am also upgrading from a htc touch HD. I was trying to decide between the desire s and the sensation and I figured if I am going to upgrade I might as well go with a dual core. I t is the future. So, I have made up my mind. I am getting the sensation end of the month or next month when the sim free unbranded handsets come out.
Malik828 said:
I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't ppl do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Sensation so I can't compare them both, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the sensation is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing I would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
So Guys Help me out here
I am stuck between Incredible S and Sensation cant decide which one should i buy, i am switching from Samsung Omnia and want to try Android, phone should be durable good camera good battery and should be fast enough to play games on it, i really like the customization on HTC but camera is good on Sensation
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Unlikely to be a huge seller? It's HTC's flagship phone, it'll be the best selling HTC phone of this quarter, I'd expect.
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Unlikely to be a huge seller? It's HTC's flagship phone, it'll be the best selling HTC phone of this quarter, I'd expect.
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Yes maybe you are right it is HTC flagship phone but before the sensation what was HTC flagship phone you guessed right it was the Incredible S so soon sensation is going to be long forgotten for the sole reason that EVO 3d is arriving sooner rather than later it only depends which is going to be a huge seller which is adopted by the huge dev community as it was due to devs that HTC had to back track on the decision of locking the bootloader
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If you buy any piece of technology and expect it to be top of the line for long your not going to get far.
Every network is slightly different and the phones appeal differently. I will be going from my HD2 to the Sensation and I will love every minute of it until the next big one comes along that tickles my fancy 1 - 2 years down the road.
Find the phone that YOU want, that makes YOU grin and eagerly anticipate the release of and get it, enjoy it and use it until the next device comes along.
I personally do not want a 3d camera, hate the technology so the EVO 3d does not appeal to me. The Incredible S was incredible, and the Sensation will be for a short time until the next greatest thing comes along.
The community moves fast. People with the phones keep working and developting for them. The OS on my HD2 was dead before the phone released, yet there is still a good community supporting the device and I am not sorry I chose the phone at all.
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Yes maybe you are right it is HTC flagship phone but before the sensation what was HTC flagship phone you guessed right it was the Incredible S so soon sensation is going to be long forgotten for the sole reason that EVO 3d is arriving sooner rather than later it only depends which is going to be a huge seller which is adopted by the huge dev community as it was due to devs that HTC had to back track on the decision of locking the bootloader
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Well the sensation is coming out all over the world while the evo 3d is just coming out for sprint right now. The GSM version hasn't even been officially announced yet
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Well the sensation is coming out all over the world while the evo 3d is just coming out for sprint right now. The GSM version hasn't even been officially announced yet
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So ok you are right agree with you that it is going to be only for Sprint but for me iPhone 5 is what making me wait there are lots lots rumors it going to launch in September with ios 5 so that is going to be the benchmark for all phones Samsung galaxy s2 is not a bad phone either so it is very hard for me to choose as I do not want regrets after choosing one beast of a phone and another beast arrives around the corner ios 5 going to have notification and widgets so it could be the complete phone that awaits but can not wait too anxious to make the plunge it is going to be sensation or iPhone 5 if only it comes with larger display do not care for resolution
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If you buy any piece of technology and expect it to be top of the line for long your not going to get far.
Every network is slightly different and the phones appeal differently. I will be going from my HD2 to the Sensation and I will love every minute of it until the next big one comes along that tickles my fancy 1 - 2 years down the road.
Find the phone that YOU want, that makes YOU grin and eagerly anticipate the release of and get it, enjoy it and use it until the next device comes along.
I personally do not want a 3d camera, hate the technology so the EVO 3d does not appeal to me. The Incredible S was incredible, and the Sensation will be for a short time until the next greatest thing comes along.
The community moves fast. People with the phones keep working and developting for them. The OS on my HD2 was dead before the phone released, yet there is still a good community supporting the device and I am not sorry I chose the phone at all.
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I agree with you totally.
On a side note, You dont have to want the 3D. The phone's specs are better than the sensation and the 3D is just an added bonus IMO although im not sure how many ppl would be happy to carry a 170g phone in their pocket.
I wish they would have announced a GSM version though so the non US people would also have the option to choose between the sensation and the EVO
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I agree with you totally.
On a side note, You dont have to want the 3D. The phone's specs are better than the sensation and the 3D is just an added bonus IMO although im not sure how many ppl would be happy to carry a 170g phone in their pocket.
I wish they would have announced a GSM version though so the non US people would also have the option to choose between the sensation and the EVO
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Which EVO 3D specs are better than the Sensation? According to this they are very similar, although the EVO only has a 5MP camera.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_3d-3901.php
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Which EVO 3D specs are better than the Sensation? According to this they are very similar, although the EVO only has a 5MP camera.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_3d-3901.php
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Also 1 GB RAM vs 768 of the sensation and lets not forget the 1730 mAh battery the EVO has which is something im sure many would have liked the sensation to have also. Like i said, i think its just its weight and thickness might be an issue to some
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Also 1 GB RAM vs 768 of the sensation and lets not forget the 1730 mAh battery the EVO has which is something im sure many would have liked the sensation to have also. Like i said, i think its just its weight and thickness might be an issue to some
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More RAM is better if you need more RAM. I haven't seen anyone so far say they've run out of RAM on the Sensation. 1GB is obviously more than 768Mb, but not so sure it's "better". Let's see what the EVO battery life is in use. It may need a larger, and as you say heavier, battery for the same run time. Heavier and thicker isn't better. For me 3D is nothing but a gimmick. I don't need even more viewing angle issues than the Sensation's LCD has. But we each have our own preferences.
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More RAM is better if you need more RAM. I haven't seen anyone so far say they've run out of RAM on the Sensation. 1GB is obviously more than 768Mb, but not so sure it's "better". Let's see what the EVO battery life is in use. It may need a larger, and as you say heavier, battery for the same run time. Heavier and thicker isn't better. For me 3D is nothing but a gimmick. I don't need even more viewing angle issues than the Sensation's LCD has. But we each have our own preferences.
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Im not sure, but perhaps more RAM could help with things moving more smoothly?
I also think the 3D is a gimmick, just saying that on paper it seems like the EVO has slightly better specs, thats all.
So I currently have a T-Mobile MyTouch 4G that I really like, I have Cyanogen Mod 7.0.3 running on it, and I get great battery life. I have some dust under the glass, I called and they said that they would happily exchange it, but that they don't have the MyTouch 4G and that they will "upgrade" me to the Samsung Galaxy S2 Looking at the forums it doesn't seem like there is much development for these phones. Should I tell Them that I want a different phone? or are there custom ROMS that I can run on the Galaxy S2 I really like the 16 or so hours of battery life I currently get, plus how fast the phone is.
Regardless, you prove my point that sensationalist (no pun intended) tech blogs stress the qualitative, not the factual. These blogs are composed of a bunch of guys who get together and tell you what they "feel" about a certain device, replete with brand loyalty bias and unrepresentative 'tests', which is why it is precisely the source of the rubbish "SAMOLED >>> LCD" claims in the first place.
Also, each device can implement the same screen 'technology' differently. The HD2 has a better screen than the G2 in terms of color accuracy (and certainly more than the Galaxy S 1's blue tint, pixelation/blur/colorwarping) and even outdoor visibility. And it wasn't even a SUPER lcd. The Sensation probably has a different screen
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2 good points (compared to desire). Visible in landscape mode in polarized sunglasses, good visibility outside. The rest of it is worse than desire slcd. Not sure about incredible s, but hope info helps you.
can someone tell me if incredible s also suffers from wifi signal loss much like the sensation? im seriously thinking of getting IS instead of sensation due to death grip issue... dual core phones can wait for now. thanks.

buying a sidekick 4g, any thoughts?

Am going to pick up a SK4G in a little bit and was wondering from our community the general conscensus on how you guys feel about it?
I'm coming from a MT4G, which I am extremely happy with, the way I have it set-up. Any one also have both and maybe a comparison? (not the obvious of course like "the screen is smaller", etc., I've been around a bit, I know a tad about a couple things =] )
I've noticed it doesnt have as crazy as a following as some of the other androids, but that doesnt mean theres no good development going on!
Let me know if you dont mind.
I came from the mt3gs and a VM optimus v afterwards. I wanted the mt4g for the specs. But I couldn't do all touch typing. I found keyboards to help. But it's just not the same as a physical qwerty.
I'm the kind of guy who likes to buy phone 2-4x a year. Maybe not the kings of the hill. But mid to high range phones. Of course, it's expensive to do so. I decided to get a phone to last a whole two-year contract. I opted for the s4g. I was due for an upgrade and even waited until launch date for this over a g2 or mt4g.
What won me was obviously the keyboard. You don't see too many 5-rows available. Spec-wise, this phone is just average. Camera dept. is really lacking. Only 3mp. But lack of led flash was the killer. Still, the keyboard was winner. The physical design is nice. I especially liked the sliding mechanism. Half-phone sliders, like the mt3gs, just feel faulty and flimsy. You could pull the halves apart or slide past the closing stop point. Not that an average person would. But I like to conduct stress tests. This mechanism is sturdy. People have dropped plenty times and claim the mechanism is just as sturdy as it was at purchase.
Also, the screen tilt really makes a difference. Using my mt3gs after this makes it really apparent. It makes using a non-tilt screen really hard to adjust back to.
The phone does come with some bugs and issues, which you can read through the forums (I have a thread over at tmo forums and adroid central entitled "bug report and other issues".) However, rooting and getting custom rom Smooth Maximus GingerClone will make the phone a new phone. The speed is fast and lag hardy present. Only minute issues still remain, yet to be resolved.
Overall, especially if you need a physical keyboard, I would suggest this phone. It is highly recommended you get Smooth Maximus for its best value. If all-touch phones didn't bother me I would go for a mt4g, g2, or wait for the mt4gs. But for you, as a backup phone this is an awesome investment. I would wait for the mt4gs, though, just for its specs and future android development.
I would say don't. You will miss the MT4G. I did the same thing Saturday night. I got rid of it last night. The phone has a nice keyboard and stuff... but the performance of the phone lacks! I mean it has a 1ghz processor and all, but its nowhere near fast as a vibrant.
I would say don't. Because you will be disappointed. If you want a keyboard get the G2 or wait for the myTouch 4G Slide.
3 days after I got the SK4G I traded it immediately and got a Nexus S instead. That phone wouldn't send or receive texts and it also wouldn't call or receive calls until I restarted. But that might have been wifi callings issue though. And if you browse the web a lot then this is not your device since the screen is so small. The only thing I liked about the phone was Cloud Text and the phenomenal keyboard. Although, as all Samsung slider keyboards do, it tends to once in a while not register a key when typing.
The quality of the SK also lacks significantly compared to the myTouch....
Just my 2 cents.
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I would say don't. You will miss the MT4G. I did the same thing Saturday night. I got rid of it last night. The phone has a nice keyboard and stuff... but the performance of the phone lacks! I mean it has a 1ghz processor and all, but its nowhere near fast as a vibrant.
I would say don't. Because you will be disappointed. If you want a keyboard get the G2 or wait for the myTouch 4G Slide.
3 days after I got the SK4G I traded it immediately and got a Nexus S instead. That phone wouldn't send or receive texts and it also wouldn't call or receive calls until I restarted. But that might have been wifi callings issue though. And if you browse the web a lot then this is not your device since the screen is so small. The only thing I liked about the phone was Cloud Text and the phenomenal keyboard. Although, as all Samsung slider keyboards do, it tends to once in a while not register a key when typing.
The quality of the SK also lacks significantly compared to the myTouch....
Just my 2 cents.
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Listen , you should do a bit research before posting in this thread imo .
It's a 1GHz of course it lack's performance , the Galaxy & SK4G have the same processor & gut's & once you install a custom kernel & ROM you will be fine , there is no Wifi Calling issue & browsing the web is fine , Cloud Text & the keyboard is amazing .
I don't wanna be bias so I'll give my honest opinion. If you are a power user, don't get this phone. Though it runs a lot more smoothly on a custom root setup, it still has tiny lag, as enoch pointed out it doesn't register all button keyboard presses. The only reason you should get the sk4g is for the keyboard alone. If not then a more powerful phone may satisfy your needs.
If you are a power user, don't get this phone. If you're getting a phone just cause, you can consider this. I love the phone and haven't put it down since. But if this is a main phone for two years on contract, you can get something better.
Lol, I don't mean to contradict my earlier post. I'm not as bias with this one.
i would recommend the sk4g. coming from all-touch smartphones like the nexus one and hd2 running android and the hd7, i am happy with the sidekick 4g. i generally avoided android phones with qwerty keyboards because most are sliders and i hate phones with too much movement.
the droid pro was my dream form factor for an android phone but since i am happy with tmo there was no way i would switch to verizon just for that phone. plus the resolution on the droid pros smaller screen was a turnoff.
the slider on the sidekick 4g is pretty sturdy. the keyboard is awesome. i use my phone a lot for business and the sidekick 4g was the last smartphone on my list. but after comparing to other qwerty androids out there the skg4 seemed to be one of the better.
the camera is only 3m and no led flash. but the quality of the pictures is pretty good for being 3m. depending on what rom i had on my hd2, the sk4g's cam took pics just as good.
the speakerphone is pretty good. better than any htc ive had.(g1, mytouch 3g, hd2, hd7, nexus one).
even though its mostly made of plastic, its pretty durable and not as 'cheap' feeling as some claim it to be. i actually think its one of the more better built phones ive had(besides the hd2).
as for performance, even though it has the same 1GHz hummingbird processor as the galaxy s, tab, etc... it doesnt feel as smooth. most of the lag can be noticed while unlocking, navigating through any custom ui, and switching back to home screen from some apps. but once you are inside of an app it feels just as smooth and snappy as other 1GHz smartphones.
if i were you i'd probably wait until the mytouch 4g slide comes out.. its not too long. im not really digging the mytouch4g/slide's front looks and not liking how the touchscreen is fully exposed on all sides as opposed to the sk4g's screen/slider is protected on two sides.
I know my phones. I know it technically has the same guts as any Galaxy S phone. But I can tell you any Galaxy S phone feels so much more faster than this phone does. I mean I was shocked that the phone didn't perform like a 1ghz device should! I did install Bali with voodoo enabled and that didn't make much difference. While on the vibrant the difference was almost night and day.
And yes I pointed out that Cloud Text and the keyboard are Amazing!
But the phone is just sluggish.
If he is a power user, he needs to look elsewhere because this phone won't suffice your need of power. I mean I found my self restarting the phone every few hours while on my myTouch 4G I never had to restart.
Another thing I should also point out is that battery life isn't the greatest. The phone wasn't lasting me even 8 hours a day (I'm more of a power user). While the myTouch would last me 22+ hours on the Virtuous Unity ROM or 18+ hours on stock. The phone with a keyboard that lasted the longest that I ever owned (android) was the G2 I was getting a solid 36+ hours of use. It was Stunning!!
My suggestion would be wait a few weeks and you can get the myTouch 4G Slide.
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Listen , you should do a bit research before posting in this thread imo .
It's a 1GHz of course it lack's performance , the Galaxy & SK4G have the same processor & gut's & once you install a custom kernel & ROM you will be fine , there is no Wifi Calling issue & browsing the web is fine , Cloud Text & the keyboard is amazing .
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I'm trading my sidekick for a nexus one next week. Unless I change my mind.
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I would recommend this phone if you are a hardcore qwerty user like myself. I came from the MT4G and I got this phone through craigslist and I have been satisfied. Is it a high end phone? Maybe if this came out last summer but it does not stop this from being a good phone. Even though the development is not as great as other phones ( I do appreciate the support!) There is not much wrong with this phone. 3 MP is weak for a camera nowadays but it does its job. Is the phone sluggish at times? Sometimes but with the gingerclone rom and bali kernal it has decreased. With more roms in kernals in the future it should change indeed. As for the battery I let the battery die and let it charge completely and no lie got 24+ hours of battery life which consisted of playing Chrono Trigger on my phone (keyboard controller ftw) but as everyone else has been saying if you want value and a 5 row keyboard then sk4g, if you wanna throw some more money and wanna be that suave guy with a fancy phone then please get the mt4gs and tell me how it is ;-)
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Not a good trade. I wouldn't do it.
Try to see if you can get a Nexus S instead.
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I'm trading my sidekick for a nexus one next week. Unless I change my mind.
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most people who are all hardcore with buying the latest and greatest may disagree. My point of contention is, when your a guy like me who has to keep up with multiple females at any given moment there is no better phone. Simply put, *****es love texting. The only competition we have as far as touch screen texting is the Droid boomerang. I forget the model designation but the thing is ****ing retarded huge. Next up we have the blackberry, but the closed source OS was the major boner killer for me.
With all that said, if you **** *****es, like lots of *****es. There is no better phone. All the other ************s struggle to keep up. I don't know how, but all the females I know get at least 45 WPM out of those ****ing dinosaur Nokia bricks. I can't do that ****, but I do know that with a SK4G I can get 45 WPM+ with nearly 100% accuracy.
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most people who are all hardcore with buying the latest and greatest may disagree. My point of contention is, when your a guy like me who has to keep up with multiple females at any given moment there is no better phone. Simply put, *****es love texting. The only competition we have as far as touch screen texting is the Droid boomerang. I forget the model designation but the thing is ****ing retarded huge. Next up we have the blackberry, but the closed source OS was the major boner killer for me.
With all that said, if you **** *****es, like lots of *****es. There is no better phone. All the other ************s struggle to keep up. I don't know how, but all the females I know get at least 45 WPM out of those ****ing dinosaur Nokia bricks. I can't do that ****, but I do know that with a SK4G I can get 45 WPM+ with nearly 100% accuracy.
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Lol... you say some dumb **** bro...
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Just wait for the 4g slide
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What do you think about this phone? (Sensation/XE/4G)

What do you think about the phone now? and What did you thought about this phone when you bought it?
Average phone, definitely not top of the line performance.
Software features (sense and all) are good, but the device lacks the performance punch that it should have.
Hardware quality is above average as well.
After ICS, although the overall UI feel is less sluggish, the phone has lost its performance, specially while playing HD videos.
I would say, not that well supported by the company, specially in India.
Final word: Not buying again from HTC.
better than the iphone 4s.
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the Sensation is a good phone, no doubt. the only thing I dislike about it is the way the antennas are built into the back case...
A phone that was underspecd from the start. Less RAM than the competition, unbelievably lacking in storage, and S3 was the worst SoC of the 2011 dual core generation. Lag city. Many people avoid new S4 phones just because their experience with an S3 phone was so bad (which sucks, because S4 is actually a good SoC aside from the GPU). The mono block design turned out to be a sham, and instead we got a completely removable back that led to radio issues and a death grip problem worse than most phones. Add to that power button problems and dust under the screen, and I'm wondering where this HTC build quality is that I based my decision to get this phone on.
The good? The camera is pretty good. The qHD resolution was above average at the time. I find the 4.3" format factor perfect. Visually I think the Sensation is one of the best looking phones of all time. I would enjoy it if I didn't have high standards, and I simply can't stand how much it lags and how hard the screen is to see outside.
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Screen is hard to see outside I agree but the worst issue for me it's speaker sound is horrible...
Camera does a good job in daylight low lights aren't so good however,
At the time I bought it, it was indeed a good phone but I think that now there are much much better phone's out in the market..
I think it still does a decent job performance wise and I don't face laggs
Now I think this phone is getting old and I should buy something new but the development is quite good so I'll stay for a while.
Last thing : battery is sh*t even whit extended battery's..
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I got this phone a few weeks ago because it was cheap and has a removable battery/sd card (as opposed to the newer ONE series).
What I like about it - Feels good in my hand (weight, robustness, etc), the haptic feedback is much better than the competitors', a large community and many ROMs to explore, battery life (with an aftermarket battery).
Don't like - Screen viewing angle is narrow, a bit too big (I prefer screens 4 inch and under for a phone).
All in all - It's a decent phone for it's price.
That's my opinion.
There are some better ones now, but it holds up well against many others!
It's a cool phone. S3 is a decent processor, I don't find it to be the worst of 2011 though. From experience, I would say it goes Samsung's Exynos 2011 > S3 > Whatever the hell OMAP was out at the time > Tegra2.
Sense is just too slow, that's the problem. I don't mean a bloat issue, I've debloated Sense - removing about 200MB of uselessness out of Sense and it doesn't speed up. Forget Sense 4 being "much lighter than previous versions" too. It's not - it's just that the first phones to have it feature S4 processors that keep up really well. Check out a video of the One V - same old Sense.
Take the S3 processor and slap on some AOSP like CM or AOKP, and the phone flies.
The best phone in the world imo.
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Not buying again from HTC
(less battery, RAM...)
Its a cool phone, then the custom roms made it cooler..
I actually got this phone as a replacement for mytouch 4g out of warranty so i only paid $5 for it. I gotta say i really love it, I don't have battery issues (lasts me a full day), no lag (senseless), its fast to me. Definitely not the best with new phones coming out every month, but i like it
When I first got this phone, I was completely underwhelmed. It lagged hard on stock gingerbread, had zero aosp support, signal was poor, wifi deathgrip was almost a deal breaker and battery life was crap. Add in sense restarts every other day and I was ready to return my phone for... a G2X. Lol!
Nowadays, ICS has improved the battery life a lot and our devs have come a long way in making the Sensation smoother and more attractive. So I guess I don't hate my Sensation like I used to, but I rather like it now. It's not the fastest phone out there, but it does what I need it to do. Poor signal and deathgrip are still there, but meh whatever. I like my Sensation enough to stick with it until my contract is up.
Not the best phone, but has a wealth of rom support. I have a Samsung galaxy s2 that's just sitting on the shelf because I enjoy the Rom support on the sensation more than actual hardware difference.
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its a good phone overall but the things that make me hate it are the antennas because of the deathgrip issue and also the speakers are too quiet.
Thanks to the roms and mods available I still love my sensation! I get bored with one thing I just change it! Love the fact It's highly customizable ! After rooting I really started to love it again thanks to the developers !
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If you compare with Iphone 4s:
Advantage: Bigger screen, Rom customization, multi tasking. Awesome HTC interface!!
Disadvantge: Battery is not good, back cover problem.
Comparing to any android phone out there, Sensation is top notch.
I've waited 4 months for this phone to come out after hearing/seeing rumors everywhere that finally an 4.3in Android phone is coming out on T-Mobile.
I love it, still till this day after using it for 1 year, I love this phone. The battery is awesome if you install custom roms/kernels plus the anker battery.
Love the screen size and resolution. Form factor; love it, slim and tall.
It's still not as smooth as Samsung phones, but **** with AOSP roms, and overclocked kernels and custom roms, you'll get there.
Cons, RAM ****ing seriously HTC? 768MB of ram meanwhile the GalaxyS2 has 1GB? The dust underneath the glass.
Other than that, love the fact that the whole back cover is the housing for the phone, if it ever gets any deep scratches, all I need to do is swap out the back cover.
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